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A74671 The bar, against free admission to the Lords Supper, fixed. Or, An answer to Mr. Humphrey his Rejoynder, or, reply. By Roger Drake minister of Peters Cheap, London. R. D. (Roger Drake), 1608-1669. 1656 (1656) Wing D2128; Thomason E1593_1; ESTC R208860 271,720 506

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of_o gelaspi_n to_o the_o contrary_n answ_n 1._o this_o be_v say_v but_o not_o one_o word_n of_o proof_n bring_v by_o mr._n humphrey_n 2._o grant_v it_o true_a he_o answer_v himself_o or_o i_o may_v answer_v he_o with_o his_o own_o word_n i_o do_v not_o value_v they_o at_o the_o rate_n of_o scripture_n it_o be_v well_o we_o both_o agree_v here_o i_o wish_v hearty_o all_o disputer_n be_v of_o this_o mind_n here_o therefore_o mr._n humphrey_n press_v mark_v 14._o 23._o they_o all_o drink_v of_o it_o i_o answer_v all_o be_v put_v for_o all_o present_a and_o twelve_o for_o eleven_o from_o 1_o cor._n 15._o 5._o to_o this_o mr._n humphrey_n return_v pag._n 11._o if_o all_o be_v put_v for_o all_o present_a then_o be_v it_o put_v for_o the_o whole_a twelve_o for_o the_o twelve_o sit_v down_o with_o he_o ans_fw-fr 1._o the_o
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say_v that_o upon_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sop_n immediate_o judas_n go_v out_o john_n 13._o 30._o and_o that_o sop_n he_o receive_v at_o or_o before_o the_o passover_n after_o which_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v institute_v and_o administer_v to_o my_o second_o that_o twelve_o be_v here_o put_v for_o eleven_o he_o answer_v none_o that_o can_v tell_v twenty_o will_v believe_v i_o ans_fw-fr 1._o let_v mr._n h._n remember_v his_o own_o rule_n &_o a_o good_a rule_n and_o stand_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o scripture_n 1_o cor._n 15._o 5._o christ_n after_o his_o resurrection_n appear_v to_o the_o twelve_o but_o judas_n be_v at_o this_o time_n dead_a and_o mathias_n be_v not_o yet_o choose_v in_o his_o room_n ergo_fw-la here_o twelve_o be_v put_v for_o eleven_o second_o this_o be_v ordinary_a for_o roundness_n of_o number_n yea_o in_o this_o very_a case_n mar._n 14._o 17._o twelve_o be_v put_v for_o ten_o since_o two_o of_o the_o apostle_n he_o send_v before_o to_o prepare_v the_o passover_n ver_fw-la 16._o and_o at_o the_o evening_n himselfcome_v with_o ten_o of_o they_o who_o yet_o verse_n 17._o be_v say_v to_o be_v twelve_o mr._n humphrey_n proceed_v 11._o pag._n 11._o his_o argument_n be_v this_o because_o twelve_o be_v put_v for_o eleven_o when_o there_o be_v but_o eleven_o therefore_o twelve_o must_v be_v put_v for_o eleven_o where_o there_o be_v twelve_o ans_fw-fr what_o be_v this_o but_o a_o mere_a beg_n of_o the_o question_n mr._n humphrey_n assert_n that_o all_o the_o twelve_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n i_o answer_v it_o be_v not_o affirm_v in_o scripture_n that_o the_o twelve_o receive_v 2._o have_v it_o be_v affirm_v yet_o twelve_o might_n be_v put_v for_o eleven_o by_o roundness_n of_o number_n as_o in_o the_o former_a instance_n to_o which_o his_o final_a answer_n be_v i_o but_o there_o be_v twelve_o there_o which_o be_v the_o very_a question_n in_o dispute_n between_o we_o by_o the_o law_n of_o dispute_n he_o be_v opponent_n and_o i_o respondent_fw-la he_o ought_v to_o solve_v my_o distinction_n and_o not_o bare_o to_o say_v but_o to_o clear_v it_o that_o twelve_o in_o the_o business_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n can_v be_v understand_v or_o take_v for_o eleven_o by_o roundness_n of_o number_n i_o shall_v ever_o acknowledge_v the_o force_n of_o st._n luke_n as_o of_o every_o other_o scripture_n but_o i_o deny_v that_o luke_n say_v either_o in_o term_n or_o by_o consequence_n that_o judas_n be_v present_a at_o or_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n and_o therefore_o as_o yet_o neither_o my_o five_o argument_n nor_o 26._o author_n be_v confute_v by_o st._n luke_n 63._o see_v mr._n collins_n more_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o his_o vindic_n suspensionis_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag._n 62._o 63._o true_o luke_n mention_n per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d those_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n but_o behold_v the_o hand_n of_o he_o that_o betray_v i_o be_v with_o i_o on_o the_o table_n after_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o supper_n do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v they_o be_v utter_v in_o that_o order_n i_o have_v prove_v the_o contrary_a by_o compare_v the_o two_o other_o evangelist_n i_o shall_v instance_n in_o another_o hysterology_n wherein_o the_o order_n be_v invert_v by_o saint_n luke_n yet_o without_o any_o prejudice_n to_o the_o truth_n matth._n 4._o 8._o the_o temptation_n to_o worship_v the_o devil_n be_v the_o three_o and_o last_o which_o yet_o luke_n make_v to_o be_v the_o second_o and_o middlemost_a luke_n 4._o 5._o in_o like_a manner_n matthew_n mention_n the_o prediction_n of_o peter_n deny_v christ_n after_o their_o go_v to_o the_o mount_n of_o olive_n matth._n 26._o verse_n 30_o 34._o so_o do_v mark_n chap._n 14._o verse_n 26-30_a which_o yet_o luke_n mention_n before_o it_o chap._n 22._o verse_n 34-39_a as_o also_o do_v saint_n john_n chap._n 13._o verse_n 38._o compare_v with_o chap._n 18._o verse_n 1._o here_o then_o in_o two_o of_o the_o evangelist_n there_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o hysterology_n without_o any_o prejudice_n to_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o narrative_a and_o why_o not_o in_o our_o business_n also_o we_o deny_v not_o but_o those_o word_n behold_v the_o hand_n etc._n etc._n be_v speak_v at_o the_o table_n but_o it_o lie_v upon_o mr._n humphrey_n to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n table_n at_o that_o time_n when_o our_o saviour_n utter_v those_o word_n we_o believe_v it_o be_v first_o a_o common_a table_n second_o the_o paschall_n table_n three_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o that_o those_o word_n be_v speak_v by_o our_o saviour_n when_o it_o be_v a_o common_a table_n or_o a_o paschall_n table_n but_o not_o when_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n table_n and_o withal_o that_o luke_n attend_v not_o so_o much_o upon_o the_o order_n as_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o narrative_a but_o suppose_v judas_n be_v present_a and_o receive_v what_o do_v this_o advantage_n mr._n humphrey_n he_o think_v much_o because_o neither_o christ_n nor_o his_o apostle_n do_v examine_v judas_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr the_o apostle_n upon_o supposition_n of_o judas_n his_o receive_n be_v but_o his_o fellow_n communicant_n nor_o do_v we_o think_v it_o necessary_a that_o fellow_n communicant_o shall_v examine_v one_o another_o before_o receive_v and_o for_o our_o bless_a saviour_n it_o follow_v not_o because_o he_o think_v it_o not_o necessary_a then_o to_o examine_v the_o apostle_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a for_o church-officer_n to_o examine_v the_o people_n before_o receive_v yea_o as_o mr._n collins_n well_o note_n in_o his_o vindiciae_fw-la suspensionis_fw-la etc._n etc._n page_n 41._o &_o 53._o it_o be_v worth_a the_o observe_n that_o christ_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o call_v upon_o the_o jew_n in_o the_o same_o house_n to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n which_o he_o will_v have_v do_v probable_o if_o he_o have_v intend_v it_o for_o all_o or_o for_o a_o convert_v ordinance_n christ_n think_v it_o not_o necessary_a then_o to_o admit_v either_o ordinary_a christian_n or_o woman_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o to_o put_v the_o apostle_n upon_o selfe-examination_n before_o the_o lord_n supper_n at_o this_o time_n be_v it_o therefore_o now_o not_o necessary_a that_o the_o people_n and_o particular_o woman_n shall_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o be_v it_o not_o necessary_a a_o man_n shall_v examine_v himself_o before_o he_o eat_v &_o c_o must_v church_n officer_n give_v a_o account_n of_o their_o people_n to_o god_n and_o must_v they_o not_o take_v a_o account_n of_o their_o people_n i_o add_v further_o that_o as_o judas_n be_v not_o suspect_v by_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n so_o he_o have_v not_o yet_o actual_o betray_v christ_n and_o it_o be_v absurd_a to_o punish_v any_o for_o a_o future_a sin_n to_o this_o mr._n humphrey_n oppose_v a_o other_o passage_n of_o i_o page_n 102._o and_o then_o infer_v christ_n may_v not_o keep_v away_o judas_n because_o he_o have_v not_o actual_o betray_v he_o but_o mr._n drake_n must_v needs_o keep_v man_n away_o for_o fear_v they_o shall_v betray_v he_o ans_fw-fr 1._o let_v the_o reader_n take_v notice_n that_o mr._n humphrey_n wrong_v my_o text_n page_n 102._o by_o leave_v out_o a_o very_a material_a part_n of_o it_o the_o word_n be_v these_o we_o keep_v man_n away_o to_o prevent_v certain_a scandal_n by_o the_o admission_n of_o person_n visible_o unworthy_a which_o last_o word_n of_o my_o text_n he_o utter_o omit_v that_o thereby_o my_o sense_n may_v appear_v more_o ugly_a but_o those_o word_n be_v add_v there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n betwixt_o christ_n practice_n and_o we_o upon_o the_o supposition_n that_o judas_n do_v receive_v since_o judas_n be_v not_o visible_o unworthy_a to_o christ_n as_o a_o man_n or_o minister_n but_o as_o god_n who_o know_v both_o judas_n and_o other_o hypocrite_n from_o
be_v ignorant_a or_o scandalous_a no_o not_o judas_n himself_o therefore_o he_o or_o their_o receive_n be_v no_o warrant_n for_o any_o ignorant_a or_o scandalous_a person_n to_o receive_v mr._n humph._n this_o be_v not_o true_a for_o indeed_o we_o shall_v find_v both_o ignorance_n in_o the_o apostle_n and_o scandal_n in_o judas_n the_o apostle_n be_v ignorant_a of_o christ_n death_n and_o resurrection_n and_o of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o judas_n have_v make_v his_o bargain_n to_o betray_v christ_n ans_fw-fr 1._o they_o know_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o bread_n and_o water_n of_o life_n and_o the_o saviour_n of_o the_o world_n john_n 6._o 68_o 69._o second_o have_v as_o much_o knowledge_n as_o may_v stand_v with_o grace_n three_o be_v willing_a upon_o all_o occasion_n to_o be_v further_o instruct_v and_o catechise_v by_o christ_n and_o we_o trust_v mr._n humphrey_n shall_v never_o be_v able_a to_o charge_v we_o with_o keep_v any_o away_o who_o be_v of_o this_o temper_n as_o for_o judas_n though_o he_o have_v make_v his_o bargain_n of_o betray_v christ_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o then_o scandalous_a nor_o do_v christ_n though_o he_o know_v it_o well_o enough_o discover_v that_o judas_n have_v make_v any_o such_o bargain_n but_o do_v only_o foretell_v that_o judas_n will_v betray_v he_o however_o therefore_o pag._n 15_o &_o 16._o he_o be_v please_v to_o charge_v i_o as_o speak_v a_o very_a untruth_n a_o grain_n of_o charity_n may_v have_v inform_v he_o that_o judas_n however_o he_o purpose_v plot_v and_o contract_v all_o which_o he_o know_v or_o may_v know_v i_o believe_v as_o well_o as_o himself_o yet_o betray_v not_o christ_n as_o to_o the_o execution_n till_o he_o kiss_v he_o in_o the_o garden_n true_o in_o god_n account_n a_o purpose_n plot_n and_o contract_n of_o evil_n be_v a_o execution_n thereof_o but_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a court_n proceed_v usual_o by_o evidence_n of_o the_o fact_n not_o of_o the_o purpose_n plot_n or_o contract_n i_o may_v add_v that_o john_n 13._o for_o 18_o 19_o 21._o 27._o our_o bless_a saviour_n even_o after_o the_o discovery_n look_v at_o judas_n his_o betray_v he_o as_o a_o future_a act_n in_o some_o sense_n therefore_o it_o be_v a_o truth_n that_o judas_n have_v not_o betray_v christ_n and_o if_o so_o than_o i_o do_v not_o speak_v a_o very_a untruth_n in_o say_v judas_n have_v not_o yet_o betray_v christ_n no_o more_o than_o peter_n have_v deny_v he_o understand_v it_o of_o the_o ultimate_a and_o complete_n act_n of_o his_o treachery_n which_o christ_n endeavourd_v to_o prevent_v by_o the_o commination_n as_o well_o as_o peter_n denial_n by_o the_o premonition_n beside_o our_o saviour_n dispensation_n here_o be_v extraordinary_a admit_v only_a man_n minister_n apostle_n and_o that_o without_o self-examination_n forego_v which_o be_v no_o rule_n for_o our_o imitation_n in_o point_n of_o sacramental_a admittance_n no_o more_o be_v his_o admittance_n of_o judas_n suppose_v he_o do_v receive_v and_o if_o this_o supposition_n fail_v where_o be_v master_n humphrey_n his_o superstructure_n upon_o it_o his_o upbraid_v i_o again_o by_o compare_v christ_n with_o the_o presbytery_n have_v be_v former_o answer_v which_o therefore_o with_o other_o passage_n of_o less_o moment_n for_o brevity_n sake_n i_o pass_v i_o shall_v only_o add_v this_o judas_n his_o treachery_n if_o it_o be_v before_o the_o complete_n of_o it_o matter_n for_o a_o judicial_a cognizance_n and_o if_o christ_n extraordinary_a knowledge_n and_o discovery_n of_o it_o be_v legal_a evidence_n as_o mr._n humphrey_n will_v ●ave_n it_o be_v a_o just_a ground_n of_o excommunication_n yet_o our_o saviour_n do_v not_o excommunicate_v he_o for_o it_o no_o more_o than_o he_o do_v suspend_v he_o nor_o do_v he_o send_v to_o the_o high_a priest_n or_o their_o officer_n for_o evidence_n against_o judas_n may_v not_o the_o church_n therefore_o excommunicate_a or_o seek_v for_o evidence_n against_o scandalous_a or_o suspect_a person_n even_o before_o this_o all_o judgement_n be_v commit_v to_o christ_n john_n 5._o 22._o yet_o we_o read_v not_o that_o christ_n judge_v any_o either_o civil_o or_o ecclesiastical_o but_o rather_o the_o quite_o contrary_a john_n 8._o 11_o &_o 12._o 47._o do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o either_o the_o magistrate_n or_o the_o presbytery_n do_v lift_v up_o themselves_o above_o christ_n the_o great_a master_n of_o discipline_n because_o they_o undertake_v that_o both_o in_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n which_o our_o bless_a lord_n will_v not_o meddle_v withal_o in_o his_o state_n of_o humiliation_n mr._n humphrey_n 18._o pag._n 18._o as_o for_o the_o question_n whether_o he_o act_v as_o a_o minister_n or_o mediator_n it_o be_v vain_a for_o he_o act_v as_o both_o he_o can_v not_o institute_v a_o ordinance_n for_o his_o church_n but_o as_o he_o be_v head_n and_o mediator_n nor_o can_v he_o administer_v it_o but_o as_o a_o minister_n ans_fw-fr 1._o if_o this_o question_n be_v vain_a the_o more_o to_o blame_v mr._n humphrey_n who_o trouble_v his_o reader_n with_o it_o especial_o since_o we_o both_o agree_v christ_n act_v here_o both_o as_o a_o mediator_n and_o as_o a_o minister_n second_o i_o only_o distinguish_v between_o christ_n act_v as_o a_o mediator_n and_o as_o a_o minister_n and_o add_v that_o christ_n be_v imitable_a not_o in_o his_o act_n as_o a_o mediator_n but_o as_o a_o minister_n we_o doubt_v not_o but_o christ_n as_o mediator_n may_v be_v both_o judge_n and_o witness_v but_o in_o that_o he_o be_v no_o pattern_n for_o our_o imitation_n if_o as_o a_o minister_n he_o may_v be_v both_o judge_n and_o witness_v than_o every_o minister_n may_v be_v both_o judge_n and_o witness_n three_o mr._n humphrey_n himself_o here_o grant_v christ_n can_v not_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n but_o as_o a_o minister_n yet_o at_o the_o same_o time_n christ_n be_v mediator_n we_o say_v christ_n as_o mediator_n may_v be_v both_o judge_n and_o witness_v but_o not_o as_o a_o minister_n will_v he_o forbid_v we_o the_o same_o liberty_n of_o distinction_n he_o take_v himself_o the_o other_o instance_n he_o except_v against_o pag._n 18._o of_o christ_n administer_a it_o only_o to_o minister_n etc._n etc._n prove_v strong_o that_o all_o christ_n do_v at_o the_o supper_n be_v no_o necessary_a rule_n for_o our_o imitation_n among_o which_o judas_n his_o admission_n upon_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o supposal_n be_v one_o fall_v under_o the_o same_o notion_n unless_o mr._n humphrey_n can_v prove_v that_o christ_n do_v not_o only_o admit_v judas_n a_o person_n then_o as_o he_o say_v scandalous_a but_o also_o with_o this_o very_a intention_n that_o his_o practice_n herein_o may_v be_v a_o rule_n for_o all_o minister_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n to_o admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n scandalous_a person_n as_o for_o his_o appeal_n in_o the_o close_a of_o pag._n 18_o i_o have_v show_v former_o that_o mr._n timson_n though_o his_o second_o in_o this_o cause_n look_v not_o at_o judas_n his_o receive_n or_o not_o receive_v as_o clear_o argumentative_a in_o this_o cause_n pag._n 3_o &_o 4._o and_o shall_v the_o stress_n of_o this_o controversy_n lie_v upon_o judas_n his_o receive_n or_o his_o not_o receive_v at_o what_o uncertainty_n shall_v we_o be_v about_o our_o practice_n herein_o when_o it_o be_v so_o hard_a to_o determine_v out_o of_o scripture_n whether_o judas_n receive_v or_o not_o his_o quotation_n out_o of_o doctor_n hammond_n make_v not_o for_o his_o purpose_n we_o easy_o grant_v with_o that_o learned_a clerk_n that_o christian_a professor_n may_v lawful_o be_v admit_v though_o their_o heart_n be_v full_a of_o villainy_n and_o when_o we_o have_v do_v all_o we_o can_v such_o will_v be_v admit_v where_o we_o find_v competency_n of_o knowledge_n profess_a subjection_n to_o all_o the_o way_n of_o christ_n not_o contradict_v by_o a_o scandalous_a life_n we_o bless_v god_n for_o the_o good_a we_o see_v in_o they_o cheerful_o give_v they_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o fellowship_n leave_v their_o heart_n and_o inward_a condition_n to_o god_n judgement_n for_o that_o other_o worthy_a gentleman_n he_o quote_v in_o the_o end_n of_o this_o section_n i_o have_v some_o reason_n to_o believe_v what_o ever_o may_v be_v his_o judgement_n about_o judas_n his_o receive_n he_o be_v not_o of_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o latitude_n for_o admittance_n to_o the_o sacrament_n sect._n iii_o mr._n humphrey_n come_v to_o the_o state_v of_o his_o question_n in_o which_o for_o explication_n pag._n 20._o he_o premise_v that_o between_o these_o two_o a_o covenant-relation_n visible_a and_o truth_n of_o grace_n which_o be_v invisible_a there_o be_v no_o middle_a thing_n enjoin_v in_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o rule_n of_o our_o admission_n answ_n if_o this_o rule_n be_v true_a than_o mr._n humphrey_n do_v very_o ill_a to_o coin_v divers_a middle_a thing_n for_o
shall_v it_o not_o be_v so_o at_o the_o lord_n supper_n mr._n humphrey_n we_o can_v compel_v any_o trial_n of_o church-member_n more_o unless_o by_o way_n of_o catechism_n and_o instruction_n wherein_o yet_o there_o be_v no_o man_n too_o old_a to_o learn_v luke_n 14._o but_o it_o must_v be_v as_o to_o the_o truth_n of_o their_o profession_n or_o effectual_a sincerity_n which_o for_o to_o do_v where_o no_o scandal_n call_v they_o in_o question_n be_v to_o go_v about_o to_o judge_v man_n heart_n and_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o note_v it_o mr._n humphrey_n grant_v we_o may_v compel_v trial_n of_o church-member_n by_o way_n of_o catechism_n and_o instruction_n from_o luke_n 14._o 23._o and_o that_o moan_n be_v too_o old_a to_o learn_v do_v not_o mr._n humphrey_n know_v that_o one_o great_a makebate_n be_v because_o many_o elder_a person_n will_v not_o be_v persuade_v much_o less_o compel_v to_o trial_n by_o way_n of_o catechise_v no_o not_o by_o their_o own_o minister_n though_o none_o of_o the_o elder_n be_v present_a 2_o lie_n by_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o own_o confession_n in_o some_o case_n person_n may_v be_v try_v as_o to_o the_o truth_n of_o their_o profession_n or_o effectual_a sincerity_n to_o wit_n when_o some_o scandal_n call_v they_o in_o question_n let_v mr._n humphrey_n give_v any_o scripture-rule_a for_o such_o trial_n in_o case_n of_o scandal_n which_o will_v not_o extend_v to_o the_o like_a trial_n upon_o other_o occasion_n 3_o lie_n if_o trial_n as_o to_o the_o truth_n of_o profession_n be_v a_o go_v about_o to_o judge_v man_n heart_n and_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n how_o can_v mr._n humphrey_n allow_v it_o at_o any_o time_n in_o any_o case_n if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n than_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o main_a argument_n against_o it_o fail_v he_o 4_o lie_n if_o put_v a_o man_n to_o the_o test_n about_o his_o sincerity_n be_v a_o enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n than_o philip_n in_o ask_v the_o eunuch_n whether_o he_o believe_v with_o all_o his_o heart_n act_v 8._o 37._o enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n and_o minister_n when_o they_o ask_v the_o party_n baptize_v suppose_v he_o be_v of_o age_n do_v thou_o for_o sake_n the_o devil_n and_o all_o his_o work_n etc._n etc._n enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n yea_o then_o jehu_n ask_v jehonadab_n 2_o king_n 10._o 15._o be_v thy_o heart_n right_a as_o my_o heart_n be_v with_o thy_o heart_n enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n he_o indeed_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o know_v the_o heart_n immediate_o intuitive_o and_o infallible_o enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n not_o so_o i_o hope_v he_o who_o by_o discourse_n observation_n and_o consequent_a effect_n labour_n to_o draw_v out_o what_o be_v in_o the_o heart_n prov._n 20._o 5._o the_o tree_n may_v be_v know_v by_o its_o fruit_n yea_o by_o its_o leave_n and_o the_o heart_n may_v be_v know_v by_o some_o expression_n and_o action_n or_o at_o least_o shrewd_o guest_n at_o otherwise_o how_o do_v peter_n perceive_v simon_n magus_n to_o be_v in_o the_o gall_n of_o bitterness_n act_v 8._o 23._o yet_o i_o hope_v at_o that_o time_n he_o enter_v not_o into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n a_o die_a man_n send_v for_o his_o minister_n to_o comfort_v he_o may_v not_o the_o minister_n put_v he_o to_o the_o test_n whether_o at_o least_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n he_o be_v a_o subject_a capable_a of_o comfort_n may_v he_o not_o 1._o try_v he_o in_o point_n of_o knowledge_n 2_o lie_n may_v he_o not_o inquire_v about_o his_o truth_n of_o grace_n and_o from_o scripture-evidence_n labour_v to_o find_v out_o whether_o he_o have_v true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n that_o according_o he_o may_v either_o comfort_n or_o warn_v he_o 3_o lie_n in_o so_o do_v be_v he_o just_o chargeable_a with_o enter_v into_o the_o seat_n of_o god_n do_v we_o any_o more_o to_o people_n in_o order_n to_o their_o sacramental_a preparation_n than_o they_o will_v be_v glad_a to_o have_v we_o do_v at_o the_o hour_n of_o their_o death_n if_o they_o have_v any_o sense_n of_o their_o spiritual_a condition_n and_o mind_n their_o poor_a soul_n in_o any_o measure_n the_o truth_n be_v if_o many_o of_o our_o people_n mind_a heaven_n but_o half_a so_o much_o as_o they_o mind_n earth_n they_o will_v upon_o their_o very_a knee_n entreat_v we_o to_o do_v that_o against_o every_o sacrament_n which_o we_o beg_v of_o they_o we_o may_v do_v but_o once_o in_o order_n to_o their_o edification_n comfort_n and_o salvation_n yet_o they_o will_v not_o hearken_v unto_o we_o upon_o which_o account_n in_o some_o poor_a measure_n though_o we_o dare_v not_o say_v we_o have_v endeavour_v our_o uttermost_a de_fw-fr jure_fw-la in_o any_o thing_n we_o may_v wash_v our_o hand_n from_o the_o guilt_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o their_o poor_a soul_n oh_o sir_n i_o beseech_v you_o do_v not_o bolster_v up_o people_n in_o that_o of_o which_o one_o day_n both_o you_o and_o themselves_o will_v see_v there_o be_v great_a cause_n to_o repent_v mr._n humphrey_n i_o must_v confess_v i_o believe_v it_o be_v only_o the_o zeal_n and_o piety_n of_o good_a man_n that_o make_v they_o thus_o to_o rise_v up_o against_o ignorance_n and_o sin_n without_o intend_v to_o enter_v upon_o god_n throne_n but_o if_o we_o have_v err_v etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o sir_n you_o speak_v in_o part_n true_o and_o charitable_o as_o to_o the_o first_o branch_n therefore_o i_o beseech_v you_o be_v not_o a_o quench-cole_n to_o that_o zeal_n and_o piety_n 2_o it_o be_v not_o a_o blind_a zeal_n act_v they_o herein_o but_o a_o zeal_n according_a to_o knowledge_n i_o beseech_v you_o do_v not_o seek_v to_o hide_v that_o light_n under_o a_o bushel_n 3_o in_o so_o do_v they_o neither_o do_v nor_o intend_v to_o enter_v upon_o god_n throne_n i_o beseech_v you_o do_v not_o charge_v they_o false_o and_o uncharitable_o but_o where_o you_o have_v err_v i_o wish_v the_o same_o to_o myself_o by_o false_a doctrine_n misapplication_n and_o wrong-imputation_n be_v content_a to_o lie_v down_o in_o the_o dust_n to_o acknowledge_v the_o truth_n whereby_o you_o may_v be_v sweet_o lead_v to_o acknowledge_v god_n hand_n in_o return_v your_o captivity_n from_o the_o river_n of_o babel_n when_o you_o have_v sit_v down_o and_o weep_v etc._n etc._n sect_n vi._n have_v survey_v mr._n humphrey_n his_o state_v of_o the_o question_n and_o his_o proof_n from_o scripture_n and_o lay_v open_v what_o strength_n or_o weakness_n i_o apprehend_v therein_o i_o shall_v now_o proceed_v to_o his_o reason_n and_o argument_n with_o candour_n and_o simplicity_n of_o heart_n by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n as_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n to_o who_o both_o of_o we_o must_n one_o day_n give_v a_o account_n of_o this_o and_o all_o other_o our_o transaction_n glad_a shall_v i_o be_v to_o close_v with_o he_o in_o any_o truth_n and_o to_o keep_v company_n with_o he_o one_o mile_n if_o i_o can_v go_v with_o he_o twain_o and_o where_o i_o be_o force_v to_o shake_v hand_n with_o he_o i_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o give_v he_o and_o other_o such_o ground_n of_o my_o dissatisfaction_n in_o the_o spirit_n of_o meekness_n as_o thereby_o it_o may_v appear_v i_o do_v not_o act_n either_o irrational_o or_o uncharitable_o the_o lord_n send_v the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n grace_n and_o love_n into_o all_o our_o heart_n to_o lead_v we_o into_o all_o truth_n holiness_n and_o unity_n mr._n humphrey_n 61._o pag._n 61._o my_o first_o reason_n be_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v the_o show_v of_o christ_n death_n a_o visible_a gospel_n and_o so_o a_o firm_a ground_n of_o free_a admission_n unto_o this_o the_o sum_n of_o what_o he_o say_v over_o and_o over_o from_o pag._n 37._o to_o pag._n 52._o come_v but_o to_o this_o all_o may_v be_v present_a but_o not_o actual_o receive_v grant_v the_o foundation_n ans_fw-fr 1._o if_o the_o reader_n will_v please_v to_o peruse_v my_o text_n i_o be_o confident_a he_o will_v be_v more_o candid_a to_o i_o then_o mr._n humphrey_n have_v be_v and_o not_o judge_v i_o have_v spend_v those_o seven_o or_o eight_o leaf_n in_o mere_a tautology_n such_o weak_a imputation_n argue_v more_o strength_n of_o passion_n then_o of_o reason_n and_o serve_v rather_o to_o catch_v than_o to_o convince_v the_o reader_n 2_o can_v there_o be_v fair_a play_n then_o to_o yield_v my_o antagonist_n by_o way_n of_o position_n or_o supposition_n as_o much_o as_o he_o desire_v for_o his_o strong_a conviction_n 3_o if_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o free-admission_n flow_v not_o from_o this_o principle_n i_o hope_v he_o will_v remember_v himself_o better_a and_o not_o hereafter_o charge_v
thou_o do_v believe_v and_o it_o be_v all_o one_o as_o if_o i_o shall_v say_v to_o a_o proud_a and_o insolent_a traitor_n act_v in_o the_o height_n of_o rebellion_n sir_n pardon_n be_v you_o if_o you_o do_v come_v in_o and_o submit_v take_v the_o word_n in_o their_o grammatical_a construction_n i_o may_v assure_v he_o he_o shall_v be_v pardon_v if_o he_o will_v present_o come_v in_o and_o submit_v but_o it_o be_v incongruous_a to_o say_v sir_n pardon_n be_v you_o if_o you_o do_v submit_v since_o at_o present_a he_o be_v visible_o neither_o a_o object_n of_o pardon_n nor_o a_o subject_n of_o submission_n upon_o which_o account_n i_o apprehend_v those_o expression_n of_o mr._n humphrey_n not_o so_o congruous_a christ_n be_v thou_o if_o thou_o will_v believe_v i_o may_v say_v christ_n be_v thou_o if_o thou_o do_v believe_v where_o i_o have_v not_o clear_a evidence_n of_o the_o dominion_n of_o unbelief_n or_o christ_n shall_v be_v thou_o if_o thou_o will_v believe_v where_o i_o have_v never_o so_o clear_a evidence_n of_o unbelief_n in_o dominion_n but_o to_o apply_v the_o promise_n de_fw-fr praesenti_fw-la upon_o a_o condition_n de_fw-fr futuro_fw-la i_o think_v be_v neither_o grammatical_a logical_a nor_o theological_a some_o truth_n there_o may_v be_v in_o it_o if_o understand_v rhetorical_o but_o rhetoric_n be_v fit_a for_o a_o orator_n than_o a_o disputant_n 3_o lie_n mr._n humphrey_n himself_o scruple_n to_o use_v these_o word_n to_o a_o person_n visible_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n witness_n those_o expression_n of_o he_o who_o doubt_n but_o i_o dare_v say_v this_o to_o one_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n conceive_v we_o know_v it_o not_o and_o can_v judge_v thereof_o where_o therefore_o we_o know_v and_o can_v can_v judge_v a_o person_n to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n mr._n humphrey_n will_v not_o encourage_v we_o to_o say_v be_v assure_v all_o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v actual_o thou_o 63._o pag._n 63._o to_o answer_v therefore_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o retortion_n i_o dare_v say_v to_o the_o visible_o godly_a what_o christ_n say_v before_o i_o in_o the_o sacrament_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v break_v for_o thou_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v shed_v for_o thou_o for_o remission_n of_o sin_n but_o these_o word_n i_o dare_v not_o say_v to_o one_o against_o who_o i_o have_v evidence_n by_o his_o gross_a ignorance_n or_o profane_a conversation_n that_o he_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n however_o therefore_o page_n 63._o mr._n humphrey_n utter_o renounce_v the_o very_a undertake_n to_o make_v any_o church-member_n visible_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n yet_o that_o herein_o he_o be_v heterodox_n be_v evident_a by_o clear_a testimony_n of_o scripture_n matth._n 7._o verse_n 15._o to_o 20._o our_o saviour_n there_o teach_v we_o that_o as_o a_o tree_n so_o a_o person_n may_v be_v know_v by_o his_o fruit_n and_o act_v 8._o 23._o peter_n by_o that_o wicked_a offer_n of_o simon_n magus_n know_v he_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n see_v also_o tit._n 3._o verse_n 10_o 11._o the_o epistle_n of_o judas_n 2_o pet._n chap._n 2_o and_o 3._o and_o 1_o cor._n 6._o verse_n 9_o 10._o and_o ephes_n 5._o verse_n 5_o 6._o but_o i_o will_v not_o trouble_v the_o reader_n in_o so_o clear_a a_o case_n and_o indeed_o if_o gross_a ignorance_n fundamental_a error_n obstinate_o maintain_v open_a profaneness_n scoff_v at_o holiness_n if_o these_o i_o say_v live_v in_o especial_o after_o due_a mean_n of_o conviction_n be_v not_o palpable_a evidence_n of_o a_o person_n at_o present_a in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n than_o the_o forementioned_a text_n must_v be_v raze_v out_o of_o scripture_n and_o minister_n as_o to_o this_o particular_a must_v learn_v a_o new_a gospel_n of_o mr._n humphrey_n mr._n humphrey_n the_o solidity_n of_o this_o answer_n may_v appear_v the_o more_o by_o this_o man_n weakness_n to_o solve_v the_o objection_n page_n 48._o which_o otherwise_o can_v be_v do_v it_o be_v this_o do_v not_o the_o a_o minister_n seal_v to_o a_o lie_n if_o he_o seal_v to_o the_o unworthy_a he_o answer_v most_o miserable_o he_o do_v but_o seal_n to_o a_o untruth_n not_o to_o a_o lie_n so_o long_o as_o he_o come_v in_o to_o the_o elder_n and_o be_v think_v visible_o worthy_a by_o they_o well_o but_o what_o if_o the_o elder_n shall_v admit_v one_o visible_o unworthy_a and_o the_o minister_n judge_v he_o so_o to_o be_v yet_o the_o major_a part_n carry_v it_o what_o shall_v become_v of_o he_o then_o 64._o ●…g_v 64._o here_o his_o untruth_n must_v be_v a_o lie_n again_o it_o be_v not_o his_o plead_v a_o admonition_n or_o that_o he_o can_v help_v it_o will_v serve_v he_o if_o it_o be_v positive_o a_o lie_n or_o a_o sin_n to_o admit_v any_o that_o be_v visible_o unworthy_a he_o may_v not_o offend_v his_o conscience_n and_o presume_v upon_o god_n though_o he_o lose_v his_o place_n and_o life_n too_o so_o that_o he_o must_v of_o necessity_n come_v over_o to_o we_o 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