Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
truth_n acknowledge_v church_n true_a 2,198 5 5.3927 4 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A68832 A briefe vievve of the weake grounds of popery as it was propounded to D. Norrice, priest, by T.V. gent: and returned without answere. Udall, Thomas. 1606 (1606) STC 24508.5; ESTC S119623 62,322 134

There are 3 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

christ_n have_v never_o be_v prohibit_v as_o unlawful_a until_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n which_o be_v 1400._o year_n after_o christ_n but_o controversy_n may_v be_v end_v and_o heresy_n abolish_v either_o by_o convince_a those_o out_n of_o the_o scripture_n that_o maintain_v they_o as_o diverse_a heretic_n be_v before_o either_o pope_n or_o council_n be_v think_v of_o or_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o magistrate_n command_v for_o truth_n and_o injoin_v their_o silence_n and_o obedience_n 5._o ●_o chro._n 14._o ●_o 3_o 4_o 5._o according_a to_o the_o example_n of_o asa_n the_o king_n of_o judah_n who_o command_v his_o people_n to_o do_v according_a to_o the_o law_n 29._o ●_o chro._n 29._o etc._n etc._n and_o ezechiah_n who_o restore_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o diverse_a other_o king_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n 6._o 2._o chro._n 17_o for_o 3_o 4_o 5_o 8._o &_o ca._n 19_o ver_fw-la 4_o 8_o 9_o 10_o 11_o &c_n &c_n 33._o v._o 11_o 12_o 13_o 15._o &_o c●_n 34._o v._n 3_o 4_o 7_o 29.30_o 3●_n 32_o 33._o &_o c●_n 35._o v._n 1_o 2_o 3_o 4.5_o 6._o as_o jehoshaphat_n manasses_n josiah_n and_o other_o yea_o solomon_n do_v dedicate_v the_o temple_n in_o his_o own_o person_n and_o 3_o and_o 1._o king_n 8._o &_o ca._n 2._o v._n 3_o cast_v out_o abiathar_n from_o be_v priest_n unto_o the_o lord_n and_o place_v zadok_n in_o his_o room_n and_o saint_n austin_n in_o many_o place_n show_v king_n be_v charge_v with_o god_n law_n in_o respect_n of_o command_v it_o to_o other_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o prophet_n say_v he_o all_o the_o king_n which_o in_o the_o people_n of_o god_n do_v not_o forbid_v and_o overthrow_v those_o thing_n 5_o aug._n epi._n 5_o which_o be_v bring_v in_o against_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n be_v blame_v and_o they_o that_o do_v prohibit_v and_o subvert_v such_o thing_n be_v praise_v above_o the_o rest_n and_o for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o objection_n that_o we_o leave_v every_o man_n to_o his_o private_a exposition_n which_o though_o therein_o we_o be_v wrongful_o charge_v by_o our_o adversary_n yet_o the_o truth_n be_v we_o challenge_v not_o to_o ourselves_o as_o the_o papist_n do_v the_o true_a interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o if_o they_o be_v appropriate_v unto_o we_o but_o we_o submit_v ourselves_o and_o our_o interpretation_n whatsoever_o according_a to_o the_o general_n and_o receive_a doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n in_o that_o point_n to_o be_v compare_v and_o try_v by_o the_o scripture_n or_o to_o avoid_v your_o cavil_a if_o you_o will_v to_o the_o church_n which_o be_v man_n speak_v by_o the_o scripture_n neither_o be_v this_o part_n of_o the_o objection_n of_o so_o great_a weight_n or_o consequence_n as_o it_o may_v seem_v at_o the_o first_o blush_n for_o most_o of_o the_o difference_n between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n be_v not_o touch_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n see_v it_o be_v confess_v by_o learned_a papist_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v in_o the_o preface_n of_o this_o book_n that_o most_o of_o the_o doctrine_n wherein_o they_o vary_v from_o we_o be_v ground_v on_o tradition_n and_o all_o man_n of_o reason_n know_v that_o where_o there_o be_v no_o text_n there_o need_v no_o interpreter_n all_o the_o danger_n therefore_o lie_v in_o the_o last_o part_n of_o the_o objection_n when_o man_n corrupt_a affection_n may_v take_v those_o thing_n for_o truth_n which_o be_v not_o and_o reject_v those_o which_o be_v a_o thing_n impossible_a to_o be_v prevent_v since_o every_o man_n understand_v according_a to_o the_o capacity_n and_o conceit_n whereof_o himself_o be_v and_o herein_o likewise_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n verify_v as_o saint_n paul_n say_v 4.3_o 2._o cor._n 4.3_o if_o our_o gospel_n be_v hide_v it_o be_v hide_v to_o they_o that_o be_v lose_v for_o no_o man_n can_v come_v unto_o i_o say_v christ_n except_o the_o father_n which_o have_v send_v i_o draw_v he_o 6.44_o john_n 6.44_o 6_o 1._o cor._n 3.4_o 6_o yea_o paul_n may_v plant_v and_o apollo_n may_v water_v but_o god_n must_v give_v the_o increase_n for_o though_o the_o sun_n be_v of_o most_o excellent_a brightness_n yet_o none_o can_v see_v it_o but_o those_o which_o have_v eye_n even_o so_o be_v it_o of_o the_o scripture_n which_o as_o saint_n peter_n say_v they_o that_o be_v unlearned_a and_o unstable_a 3.16_o 2._o pet._n 3.16_o do_v pervert_v to_o their_o own_o damnation_n but_o shall_v we_o leave_v the_o trial_n of_o the_o scripture_n to_o which_o all_o the_o father_n refer_v we_o either_o because_o many_o pervert_v they_o or_o for_o that_o the_o devil_n allege_v they_o or_o for_o that_o it_o be_v common_a to_o all_o heretic_n to_o make_v challenge_n and_o boast_v of_o they_o no_o for_o all_o heretic_n have_v be_v by_o the_o scripture_n right_o understand_v confute_v and_o confound_v yea_o even_o the_o devil_n himself_o 3.7_o mat._n 3.7_o as_o christ_n own_o example_n teach_v we_o be_v convict_v by_o the_o same_o weapon_n wherewith_o he_o think_v to_o have_v vanquish_v our_o saviour_n but_o to_o make_v this_o plain_a by_o example_n what_o lawyer_n will_v offer_v to_o defend_v a_o bad_a cause_n but_o he_o will_v bring_v law_n for_o his_o purpose_n and_o shall_v this_o debar_v or_o prejudice_n the_o other_o that_o plead_v against_o he_o that_o he_o shall_v not_o by_o law_n convince_v the_o error_n and_o sophistry_n or_o quirk_n and_o quiddity_n which_o be_v bring_v against_o he_o nay_o rather_o any_o man_n of_o judgement_n have_v hear_v both_o party_n will_v ready_o distinguish_v and_o say_v the_o one_o make_v a_o a_o show_n of_o law_n but_o the_o other_o have_v law_n indeed_o and_o even_o thus_o it_o rest_v in_o those_o controversy_n that_o be_v between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n touch_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n only_o and_o not_o for_o those_o difference_n which_o the_o maintain_v by_o tradition_n 4_o petr._n ●_o soto_n adu_fw-la brent_n canisi_fw-la in_o catechi_fw-la ca._n 5._o lindan_n in_o pan_n li._n 4._o ca._n 100_o peresius_n par_fw-fr 3._o rhe._n test_n gal._n 2._o sect_n 4_o which_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o their_o own_o man_n as_o i_o have_v already_o show_v be_v the_o great_a number_n and_o albeit_o the_o rhemist_n will_v insinuate_v that_o the_o controversy_n between_o we_o be_v whether_o the_o judge_n or_o the_o evidence_n be_v of_o great_a authority_n yet_o that_o shift_n will_v not_o serve_v they_o for_o all_o man_n of_o judgement_n know_v that_o that_o be_v not_o the_o question_n between_o us._n but_o the_o difference_n be_v whether_o the_o judge_n or_o the_o law_n be_v of_o great_a authority_n where_o every_o wise_a man_n will_v grant_v the_o law_n to_o be_v supreme_a whereunto_o the_o judge_n be_v to_o obey_v and_o according_a to_o which_o to_o give_v his_o sentence_n or_o else_o by_o the_o law_n his_o erroneous_a judgement_n be_v to_o be_v reverse_a neither_o be_v there_o other_o judicial_a authority_n in_o the_o church_n than_o in_o the_o common_a wealth_n which_o be_v to_o determine_v controversy_n according_a to_o the_o law_n and_o the_o true_a meaning_n thereof_o and_o if_o there_o be_v question_n of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o law_n the_o lawmaker_n mind_n be_v to_o be_v discuss_v by_o his_o word_n and_o the_o circumstance_n and_o occasion_n of_o make_v the_o law_n and_o even_o so_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v to_o be_v take_v only_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n as_o clemens_n say_v ●elatum_fw-la ●i●_n 37._o ca._n ●elatum_fw-la you_o ought_v not_o to_o seek_v a_o strange_a and_o foreign_a sense_n without_o the_o scripture_n that_o you_o may_v confirm_v it_o by_o any_o mean_n by_o the_o scripture_n but_o sense_n of_o truth_n you_o must_v take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o saint_n augustine_n lecto_fw-la augustine_n confess_v aug._n praef_n ad_fw-la lecto_fw-la who_o doctrine_n yourselves_o do_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v ground_v on_o the_o law_n the_o manner_n the_o judgement_n of_o all_o the_o catholic_a church_n who_o you_o call_v a_o witness_n of_o the_o sincere_a truth_n and_o catholic_a religion_n such_o a_o witness_n as_o no_o exception_n can_v be_v make_v against_o who_o assure_v you_o as_o you_o say_v not_o only_o of_o his_o own_o but_o also_o of_o the_o common_a the_o constant_a faith_n and_o confession_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o the_o apostolic_a church_n this_o augustine_n have_v write_v four_o book_n of_o christian_a doctrine_n wherein_o he_o purposely_o intreat_v how_o man_n shall_v understand_v the_o scripture_n and_o expound_v it_o the_o sum_n of_o all_o his_o treatise_n do_v aim_v at_o this_o mark_n that_o 2._o that_o aug._n the_o doct_n christ_n li._n 1._o ca._n 2._o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o scripture_n must_v be_v learn_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o consideration_n of_o thing_n
and_o saint_n john_n witness_v that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v 6.53_o john_n 6.53_o except_o you_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n you_o have_v no_o life_n in_o you_o and_o many_o other_o testimony_n which_o i_o omit_v it_o will_v convince_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a of_o error_n in_o decrée_v for_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n contrary_a to_o the_o second_o commandment_n but_o what_o shall_v i_o need_v to_o descend_v to_o particularity_n it_o will_v convince_v your_o late_a council_n of_o trent_n and_o all_o other_o counsel_n in_o all_o those_o point_n of_o doctrine_n wherein_o you_o vary_v from_o we_o if_o any_o papist_n dare_n undertake_v to_o bring_v the_o controversy_n between_o we_o to_o that_o trial_n and_o sure_o since_o they_o will_v seem_v to_o bring_v scripture_n to_o prove_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o the_o church_n can_v err_v i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o they_o shall_v refuse_v to_o make_v they_o judge_v of_o all_o difference_n between_o us._n but_o i_o marvel_v they_o urge_v these_o place_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n representative_a can_v err_v see_v they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o show_v that_o any_o one_o ancient_a father_n have_v so_o understand_v they_o or_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v represent_v in_o a_o general_a council_n name_n one_o father_n that_o be_v ancient_a and_o not_o counterfeit_v for_o your_o credit_n sake_n that_o have_v interpret_v these_o place_n of_o scripture_n or_o any_o other_o in_o that_o case_n as_o you_o do_v if_o you_o can_v the_o world_n may_v just_o hold_v you_o for_o wrangler_n and_o abuser_n both_o of_o scripture_n and_o father_n but_o let_v we_o a_o little_a examine_v the_o force_n of_o those_o scripture_n which_o if_o they_o be_v all_o grant_v make_v nothing_o against_o we_o if_o they_o be_v right_o understand_v the_o first_o be_v when_o two_o or_o three_o be_v gather_v together_o etc._n etc._n this_o place_n be_v as_o pregnant_a for_o two_o or_o three_o faithful_a man_n assemble_v in_o christ_n name_n as_o to_o a_o nationall_n or_o a_o provincial_a council_n neither_o do_v it_o give_v any_o great_a privilege_n to_o a_o general_n council_n than_o it_o do_v unto_o they_o 12._o bellar._n li._n 1._o de_fw-fr conc._n ca._n 12._o though_o it_o be_v allege_v by_o bellarmine_n as_o the_o ground_n for_o the_o authorise_a of_o counsel_n all_o which_o promise_v notwithstanding_o yourselves_o grant_v that_o both_o nationall_n and_o provincial_a counsel_n may_v err_v the_o next_o place_n be_v the_o sixtéenth_n of_o john_n where_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v promise_v to_o the_o apostle_n to_o lead_v they_o into_o all_o truth_n which_o spirit_n of_o truth_n be_v promise_v to_o the_o church_n and_o to_o every_o particular_a member_n thereof_o for_o who_o our_o saviour_n christ_n pray_v say_v sanctify_v they_o in_o thy_o truth_n thy_o word_n be_v truth_n 20._o joh._n 17.17.19_o 20._o and_o again_o i_o pray_v not_o for_o these_o alone_a but_o for_o they_o also_o that_o shall_v believe_v in_o i_o through_o their_o word_n but_o what_o make_v this_o for_o general_a counsel_n more_o than_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o every_o faithful_a member_n thereof_o for_o although_o this_o proove_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v ever_o remain_v with_o the_o church_n and_o with_o every_o true_a member_n of_o the_o same_o yet_o must_v we_o not_o hereof_o conclude_v though_o it_o be_v as_o pregnant_a for_o every_o faithful_a particular_a man_n as_o for_o the_o whole_a that_o either_o every_o member_n of_o christ_n or_o every_o pastor_n that_o be_v the_o apostle_n successor_n can_v err_v neither_o be_v this_o to_o be_v restrain_v to_o general_a counsel_n or_o to_o the_o pope_n neither_o must_v we_o think_v that_o any_o visible_a church_n may_v challenge_v all_o privilege_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v as_o necessary_a to_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o world_n 16._o rhem._n test_n john_n 16._o but_o your_o rhemist_n will_v tell_v you_o that_o to_o teach_v all_o truth_n and_o to_o preserve_v in_o truth_n and_o from_o error_n the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v promise_v and_o perform_v only_o to_o the_o church_n and_o the_o choice_a governor_n and_o general_a counsel_n upon_o which_o the_o papist_n conclude_v that_o if_o the_o church_n can_v err_v the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n can_v err_v be_v not_o this_o substantial_a reason_n the_o whole_a church_n can_v err_v ergo_fw-la the_o pastor_n and_o preacher_n can_v err_v deal_v plain_o and_o direct_o do_v you_o hereby_o conclude_v that_o all_o pastor_n can_v err_v or_o that_o no_o pastor_n can_v err_v for_o to_o say_v that_o no_o pastor_n can_v err_v be_v apparent_a madness_n and_o to_o say_v that_o all_o pastor_n can_v err_v stand_v you_o in_o no_o stead_n neither_o be_v this_o a_o good_a argument_n the_o whole_a church_n can_v err_v that_o be_v all_z and_o every_o faithful_a can_v err_v ergo_fw-la all_o pastor_n can_v err_v this_o be_v no_o kind_n of_o consequent_a for_o some_o of_o the_o faithful_a may_v be_v direct_v to_o the_o truth_n and_o they_o no_o pastor_n nor_o preacher_n and_o many_o preacher_n may_v be_v preserve_v from_o error_n and_o they_o no_o bishop_n and_o many_o bishop_n may_v keep_v in_o the_o faith_n and_o they_o not_o assemble_v and_o a_o great_a number_n of_o those_o that_o be_v assemble_v may_v be_v righty_a affect_v and_o yet_o not_o the_o most_o part_n of_o they_o and_o the_o great_a side_n may_v be_v well_o dispose_v and_o yet_o not_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n without_o who_o confirmation_n you_o hold_v no_o council_n lawful_a and_o therefore_o this_o argument_n be_v very_o childish_a the_o whole_a church_n can_v err_v ergo_fw-la general_n counsel_n can_v err_v and_o special_o the_o pope_n of_o who_o we_o shall_v speak_v more_o particular_o hereafter_o neither_o have_v the_o holy_a ghost_n fill_v with_o the_o unmeasurable_a abundance_n of_o grace_n any_o but_o christ_n 1.16_o john_n 3.34_o john_n 1.16_o for_o god_n give_v not_o the_o spirit_n by_o measure_n to_o he_o of_o who_o fullness_n we_o all_o receive_v and_o it_o may_v well_o be_v gather_v from_o the_o scripture_n 4.7_o 2._o cor._n 10.13_o eph._n 4.7_o that_o though_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v give_v to_o the_o elect_n yet_o he_o have_v give_v it_o by_o measure_n as_o i_o may_v say_v with_o saint_n paul_n not_o to_o this_o end_n that_o they_o may_v not_o err_v but_o that_o they_o may_v not_o err_v to_o death_n for_o what_o thing_n soever_o be_v receive_v of_o another_o it_o be_v receive_v according_a to_o the_o capacity_n of_o that_o which_o receive_v it_o the_o last_o be_v the_o 1._o tim._n 3.15_o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n therefore_o it_o can_v err_v if_o this_o argument_n be_v grant_v will_v it_o follow_v hereupon_o that_o general_a counsel_n can_v not_o err_v but_o this_o be_v sufficient_o refute_v before_o and_o you_o know_v that_o peter_n be_v a_o pillar_n of_o truth_n and_o yet_o he_o err_v and_o be_v reproove_v by_o saint_n paul_n 2._o gal._n 2._o yea_o your_o divine_n of_o paris_n parisienses_fw-la articuli_fw-la parisienses_fw-la but_o late_o resolve_v that_o peter_n err_v in_o faith_n when_o paul_n reproove_v he_o and_o the_o very_a drift_n and_o scope_n of_o the_o place_n show_v that_o timothy_n be_v not_o send_v by_o saint_n paul_n to_o the_o church_n to_o learn_v his_o duty_n but_o to_o the_o scripture_n these_o thing_n write_v i_o unto_o thou_o say_v he_o hope_v to_o come_v short_o but_o if_o i_o tarry_v long_o that_o thou_o may_v know_v how_o thou_o ought_v to_o behave_v thyself_o in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n which_o be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o live_a god_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n this_o church_n then_o which_o timothy_n be_v conversant_a in_o be_v the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n call_v by_o s_n paul_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n but_o this_o church_n of_o ephesus_n have_v condemn_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n 6._o conc._n flor._n sess_n ult._n chalcocondylas_n de_fw-fr reb._n turc_n lib._n 6._o to_o which_o other_o church_n of_o the_o east_n have_v likewise_o condescend_v therefore_o if_o that_o be_v true_a still_o which_o the_o church_n teach_v because_o s._n paul_n call_v it_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n then_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n be_v wicked_a and_o papistry_n be_v heresy_n yea_o even_o this_o church_n notwithstanding_o it_o be_v call_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n be_v now_o leave_v desolate_a to_o mahomet_n wicked_a impiety_n but_o let_v we_o see_v by_o some_o few_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n how_o they_o have_v expound_v this_o place_n and_o whether_o they_o have_v apply_v it_o to_o general_a counsel_n as_o the_o papist_n do_v and_o not_o
man_n precept_n so_o that_o as_o saint_n peter_n have_v censure_v you_o 2.18_o 1._o pet._n 2.18_o you_o be_v not_o redeem_v from_o the_o vain_a tradition_n of_o your_o father_n beside_o you_o choose_v rather_o to_o make_v the_o father_n to_o contradict_v themselves_o as_o i_o have_v show_v in_o the_o preface_n of_o this_o treatise_n than_o to_o acknowledge_v with_o we_o as_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o the_o tradition_n mention_v by_o the_o father_n be_v no_o part_n or_o point_n of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n but_o do_v your_o church_n practice_v all_o those_o tradition_n which_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o father_n to_o be_v either_o divine_a apostolical_a or_o ecclesiastical_a papist_n yes_o and_o although_o she_o do_v not_o yet_o be_v the_o church_n authority_n sufficient_a to_o abrogate_v or_o admit_v which_o she_o please_v protestant_n 13_o indeed_o you_o take_v that_o liberty_n to_o yourselves_o without_o all_o warrant_n either_o of_o scripture_n or_o father_n for_o s_n hierome_n which_o be_v one_o of_o the_o father_n allege_v by_o you_o for_o tradition_n 4._o dialo_n contr_n lucif_n ca._n 4._o deliver_v it_o as_o a_o apostolic_a tradition_n on_o the_o lord_n day_n and_o throughout_o every_o penticost_n neither_o to_o pray_v on_o the_o knee_n nor_o to_o fast_o the_o temper_n of_o milk_n and_o honey_n give_v to_o they_o that_o be_v new_o baptize_v 3._o tertul._n de_fw-fr coro_n milit._n nu._n 3._o be_v confirm_v by_o tertullian_n who_o likewise_o reckon_v up_o a_o number_n of_o rite_n ground_v upon_o tradition_n as_o that_o the_o baptize_v shall_v abstain_v from_o wash_v a_o whole_a week_n after_o baptism_n with_o much_o cross_n at_o every_o go_v out_o at_o every_o step_n at_o every_o come_n in_o at_o put_v on_o of_o apparel_n at_o put_v on_o of_o shoe_n at_o wash_n at_o table_n at_o light_n at_o bed_n at_o seat_n etc._n etc._n all_o these_o be_v deliver_v as_o the_o apostle_n tradition_n which_o yet_o the_o papist_n themselves_o observe_v not_o and_o if_o these_o be_v not_o apostolic_a tradition_n what_o warrant_v have_v we_o for_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n for_o as_o for_o the_o church_n authority_n in_o abolish_n of_o these_o you_o may_v say_v as_o much_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n for_o you_o have_v say_v before_o that_o tradition_n unwritten_a 4._o conc._n trid._n sess_n 4._o be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o scripture_n but_o do_v you_o think_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o lead_v we_o to_o accept_v of_o all_o the_o doctrine_n deliver_v by_o tradition_n and_o that_o whatsoever_o be_v deliver_v by_o they_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v without_o exception_n papist_n yes_o the_o joint_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n ●_o sta._n prine_n doctr_n li._n 7._o ca._n 13._o &_o li._n 1●_n ca._n 5._o hart._n ●_o ag_fw-mi ray._n ca._n ●_o divi_z ●_o be_v a_o absolute_a rule_n be_v indeed_o the_o church_n exposition_n protestant_n 14_o then_o must_v you_o whole_o relinquish_v all_o your_o doctrine_n and_o tradition_n unwritten_a for_o all_o the_o father_n do_v with_o joint_a consent_n yield_v all_o their_o authority_n to_o the_o scripture_n lay_v it_o for_o a_o ground_n that_o nothing_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v to_o be_v beléeve_v without_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n nay_o that_o themselves_o be_v not_o to_o be_v credit_v without_o the_o scripture_n as_o shall_v manifest_o appear_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o these_o father_n follow_v yea_o s._n augustine_n be_v so_o absolute_a for_o we_o in_o most_o of_o his_o book_n 23._o book_n aug_n ep_v 19_o ad_fw-la hiero_n epi_n 48_o vincent_n ep_v 111_o fortunatiano_n epi_n 112_o to_o paulina_n cont._n fastum_fw-la li_n 11_o c._n 5._o contr._n cres_n gram_n li._n 2_o ca_fw-mi 11_o &_o 32_o de_fw-fr bap_n count_v don_n li._n 2._o c._n 2_o de_fw-fr merit_n &_o remiss_a peccat_fw-la count_n pelag._n lib_n 3_o cap_n 7._o de_fw-fr nature_n &_o gra_fw-mi ca._n 61_o de_fw-fr gracia_fw-la christi_fw-la contra_fw-la pelag_n cap._n ●●_o de_fw-fr nuptijs_fw-la &_o concupiscent_a lib._n 2_o ca._n 23._o that_o he_o will_v have_v the_o church_n seek_v only_o in_o the_o scripture_n &_o heretic_n confute_v only_o by_o the_o scripture_n to_o who_o only_a authority_n in_o many_o place_n he_o profess_v that_o he_o himself_o will_v be_v bind_v so_o that_o you_o must_v either_o make_v these_o father_n contrary_a to_o themselves_o or_o else_o grant_v that_o tradition_n be_v not_o of_o absolute_a necessity_n to_o be_v receive_v but_o for_o that_o this_o be_v a_o main_a point_n which_o the_o papist_n insist_v on_o i_o will_v clear_v the_o same_o evident_o by_o four_o just_a exception_n which_o i_o refer_v to_o the_o indifferent_a censure_n of_o any_o first_o i_o will_v prove_v that_o the_o father_n have_v attribute_v all_o sufficiency_n to_o the_o scripture_n and_o have_v submit_v all_o their_o authority_n unto_o they_o second_o that_o the_o father_n have_v hold_v diverse_a error_n upon_o which_o it_o necessary_o follow_v that_o if_o they_o may_v err_v in_o one_o thing_n they_o may_v err_v in_o another_o three_o that_o they_o be_v often_o reject_v by_o the_o papist_n yea_o even_o the_o great_a number_n sometime_o contrary_a to_o their_o own_o rule_n and_o therefore_o may_v with_o as_o great_a reason_n be_v reject_v by_o us._n four_o that_o there_o be_v many_o counterfeit_v bear_v the_o name_n of_o ancient_a father_n and_o that_o often_o time_n they_o be_v allege_v by_o the_o papist_n to_o abuse_v we_o all_o which_o particular_a exception_n i_o will_v brief_o prove_v in_o order_n as_o they_o lie_v first_o saint_n basil_n say_v fide_fw-la tract_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la it_o be_v a_o most_o certain_a argument_n of_o infidelity_n and_o a_o most_o certain_a sign_n of_o pride_n if_o any_o man_n will_v reject_v any_o of_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v or_o bring_v in_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o write_v when_o our_o lord_n say_v my_o sheep_n hear_v my_o voice_n and_z a_o stranger_n they_o will_v not_o hear_v tertullian_n say_v carnis_fw-la de_fw-fr resurrect_n carnis_fw-la take_v away_o from_o heretic_n those_o thing_n which_o they_o hold_v with_o ethnike_n that_o they_o may_v stay_v their_o question_n upon_o the_o scripture_n only_o and_o they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o stand_v saint_n augustine_n say_v 9_o de_fw-fr doctr_n christ_n li._n 2._o ca._n 9_o all_o thing_n that_o concern_v faith_n and_o manner_n or_o belief_n and_o life_n be_v plain_o write_v in_o the_o scripture_n chrysostome_n say_v 3_o in_o 2._o ad_fw-la thessa_n ho._n 3_o that_o every_o thing_n be_v clear_a and_o evident_a by_o the_o scripture_n and_o whatsoever_o thing_n be_v necessary_a they_o be_v evident_a 68_o in_o eusng_v joh._n li._n 12_o cap._n 68_o cyril_n say_v that_o such_o of_o the_o thing_n do_v by_o christ_n be_v write_v as_o the_o writer_n think_v to_o be_v sufficient_a for_o manner_n and_o doctrine_n august_n epist_n 11_o inter_v epist_n august_n in_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o s._n austin_n and_o s._n hierome_n touch_v peter_n reproof_n hierome_n allege_v more_o father_n on_o his_o side_n and_o make_v so_o great_a account_n of_o they_o that_o he_o desire_v austin_n to_o suffer_v he_o to_o err_v with_o such_o man_n if_o he_o think_v he_o to_o err_v 19_o epist_n 19_o to_o who_o saint_n austin_n reply_v that_o peradventure_o he_o may_v find_v as_o many_o if_o he_o have_v read_v much_o but_o i_o say_v he_o have_v paul_n the_o apostle_n himself_o in_o stead_n of_o these_o all_o and_o above_o these_o all_o to_o he_o i_o do_v fly_v to_o he_o do_v i_o appeal_v from_o all_o the_o doctor_n his_o interpreter_n who_o be_v of_o other_o mind_n etc._n etc._n euagrium_n epist_n 126_o ad_fw-la euagrium_n s._n hierome_n yield_v his_o opinion_n to_o euagrius_n a_o mean_a man_n after_o he_o have_v show_v the_o judgement_n of_o origen_n didimus_n hipollitus_n irenaeus_n eusebius_n cesariensis_n emisenus_n apollinarius_n and_o eustathius_n say_v to_o bring_v forth_o the_o witness_n it_o be_v my_o part_n let_v it_o be_v you_o to_o judge_v of_o the_o credit_n of_o the_o witness_n je●em_n orig._n hom_o 1_o super_fw-la je●em_n origen_n confess_v that_o their_o judgement_n without_o witness_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v of_o no_o credit_n 98._o hierom._n in_o psal_n 98._o hierome_n write_v that_o all_o which_o they_o speak_v they_o be_v to_o prove_v by_o the_o scripture_n 23._o hier._n in_o ma●_n 23._o and_o say_v in_o another_o place_n that_o which_o have_v not_o authority_n from_o the_o scripture_n as_o easy_o be_v despise_v as_o approve_v saint_n basil_n say_v 8._o basil_n in_o ethicis_fw-la defi●_n 8._o if_o every_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n as_o s._n paul_n affirm_v and_o faith_n come_v by_o hear_v and_o hear_v ●y_a the_o word_n of_o god_n ergo_fw-la whatsoever_o be_v without_o or_o beside_o the_o divine_a