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themselves_o to_o this_o measure_n and_o trial_n of_o autocatacrisie_n for_o since_o they_o say_v that_o lawful_a general_n council_n may_v err_v in_o fundamental_o these_o council_n may_v also_o define_v or_o declare_v something_o heresy_n that_o be_v not_o against_o a_o fundamental_a and_o if_o so_o ay_o though_o in_o this_o self-convinced_n that_o such_o be_v their_o definition_n yet_o be_o most_o free_a from_o heresy_n in_o my_o not_o assent_v to_o it_o or_o if_o they_o err_v intolerable_o in_o oppose_v it_o again_o since_o protestant_n say_v council_n may_v err_v in_o distinguish_a fundamental_o these_o council_n may_v err_v also_o in_o discern_a heresy_n which_o be_v a_o error_n against_o a_o fundamental_a from_o other_o error_n that_o be_v against_o nonfundamentals_a again_o whilst_o i_o can_v distinguish_v fundamental_o in_o their_o definition_n thus_o no_o definition_n of_o a_o general_n council_n may_v be_v recede_v from_o by_o i_o for_o fear_n of_o my_o incur_v heresy_n a_o 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under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n i_o add_v or_o under_o pain_n of_o heresy_n and_o ib._n p._n 102._o i_o acknowledge_v say_v he_o that_o a_o general_n council_n may_v make_v that_o reveal_v truth_n necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v by_o a_o christian_a as_o a_o point_n of_o faith_n which_o former_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v that_o be_v whensoever_o the_o reason_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n produce_v by_o the_o council_n or_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o council_n which_o be_v and_o always_o aught_o to_o be_v very_o great_a with_o all_o sober_a discreet_a christian_n do_v convince_v a_o man_n in_o his_o conscience_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o council_n definition_n which_v truth_n i_o be_o as_o yet_o not_o convince_v of_o neither_o from_o the_o reason_n nor_o authority_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a or_o if_o you_o have_v rather_o have_v it_o out_o of_o dr._n potter_n it_o be_v not_o resist_v say_v he_o 128._o he_o p._n 128._o the_o voice_n definitive_a sentence_n which_o make_v a_o heretic_n but_o a_o obstinate_a stand_v out_o against_o evident_a scripture_n sufficient_o clear_v unto_o he_o and_o the_o scripture_n may_v then_o be_v say_v to_o be_v sufficient_o clear_v when_o it_o be_v so_o open_v that_o a_o good_a and_o teachable_a mind_n love_v and_o seek_v truth_n my_o conscience_n convince_v i_o not_o but_o that_o such_o i_o be_o can_v gainsay_v it_o again_o 129._o again_o p._n 129._o it_o be_v possible_a say_v he_o that_o the_o sentence_n of_o a_o council_n or_o church_n may_v be_v erroneous_a either_o because_o the_o opinion_n condemn_v be_v no_o heresy_n or_o error_n against_o the_o faith_n in_o itself_o consider_v or_o because_o the_o party_n so_o condemn_v be_v not_o sufficient_o convince_v in_o his_o understanding_n not_o cloud_v with_o prejudice_n ambition_n vainglory_n or_o the_o like_a passion_n that_o it_o be_v a_o error_n one_o of_o these_o i_o account_v myself_o or_o out_o of_o dr._n hammond_n 114._o hammond_n heresy_n p._n 114._o it_o must_v be_v lawful_a for_o the_o church_n of_o god_n any_o church_n or_o any_o christian_n upon_o the_o doctor_n reason_n as_o well_o as_o for_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o inquire_v whether_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o universal_a council_n have_v be_v agreeable_a to_o apostolical_a tradition_n or_o no_o and_o if_o they_o be_v find_v otherwise_o to_o eject_v they_o out_o or_o not_o to_o receive_v they_o into_o their_o belief_n and_o then_o still_o it_o be_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o decree_n and_o the_o apostolicalness_n of_o they_o and_o the_o force_n of_o the_o testification_n whereby_o they_o be_v approve_v and_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v such_o which_o give_v the_o authority_n to_o the_o council_n and_o nothing_o else_o be_v sufficient_a where_o that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v and_o elsewhere_o he_o both_o deny_v in_o general_n a_o infallibility_n of_o council_n ‖_o and_o ground_n the_o reverence_n due_a to_o the_o four_o first_o council_n on_o their_o set_n down_o 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