his 2 Epistle he nameth himself the Bishop of the vniuersal Apostolick Church And willeth others to appeale to the Apostolick Sea as to the Head Whereby it is euident that the ancient Popes Victor Anacletus Xistus and our Gregorie xv do wholy agree in their due clayme of Primacie In like māner holie Ireneus who according to Hamelmanus (146) De Traditionibus col 528. might yet remember the Apostles owne liuelie preaching affirming l. 3. c. 3. that It is necessary that al Churches do accord to the Roman Church in regard of a more powerable principalitie is charged for the same by the Centurists (147) In the Alphabetical Table of the 2. Cent. at the word Ireneus with a corrupt Saying concerning the Primacie of the Roman Church But to arise yet euen to the times of the blessed Apostles themselues wheras Papias as appeareth by the testimonie of Ireneus alleadged by the Centurists (148) Cent. 2 col 172. liued in the Apostles time as D. Fulk (149) In his Answ to A Counterf Cath. p 35. confesseth was Schollar to S. Iohn yet doth M. Midleton (150) Papisto-Mastix p. 200. charge him saying Papias was the first Father and Founder of Traditions and Peters Primacie or Romish Episcopalitie (151) De Scrip. Auth. l. 2. c. 20. fol. 166. Bullinger reporteth that forthwith from the verie times of the Apostles especially from the gouernment of Constantin the Great vnder whom some say the first poysen was powred into the Church the desire of gouerning was often put in practise by certain Roman Bishops c. D. Downeham (152) Antichristi l. 2. c. 8. p. 79. acknowledgeth though not the then open Exercise of the Popes vniuersal Dominion yet the priuate Doctrine therof saying The Antichrist which is to be destroyed at the second coming of Christ was come euen in the Apostles time although he was not reuealed by exercising openly a Soueraigne and vniuersal Dominion M. Midleton (153) Papisto-mastix p. 193. affirmeth confidently that we are sure that the Mysterie of iniquitie did work in Pauls time and fel not a-sleep so soone as Paul was dead waking againe six hundred yeares after when this Mysterie was disclosed c. And therefore no maruaile though perusing Councels Fathers and Stories from the Apostles foreward we find the print of the Popes feet c. But Philippus (154) De Regno Christi p. 221. Nicolai vndertaking to speak of the beginning and increase of the Popes Dignitie auoucheth yet further that The desire of Primacie was the common Infirmitie of the Apostles (155) Catal. Testium veritatis Tom. 1. p. 27. and of the first Bishops of the Cittie of Rome Yea some Protestants doubt not to deriue from S. Peter himself as being the prognosticon or type therof the confessed clayme of his Successours the Bishops of Rome saying to this purpose It can not be denyed but that Peter sometimes was subiect to ambition and desire of Rule c. By which infirmitie of Peter it was vndoubtedly signifyed that these Bishops who boasted of Peters succession were to be subiect to the like yea to greater ambition by infinit degrees c. wherfore this so corrupt ambition of Peter and ignorance and negligence of diuine matters c. without douht did foreshew that the Bishop of Rome in that he wil be the Chief and the Heire of Peters Priuiledges was to be ignorant and a contemner of heauenlie things and a louer of human riches power and pleasures And D. Whitaker blusheth not to write that (156) De Concil p. 37. The mysterie of iniquitie did work in the Sea of Rome in Peters time and did shew itself in Anicetus Victor Cornelius Sozimus Bonifacius Celestinus Now if it be true which Caluin affirmeth that (157) Resp ad Sadoletum It is playne conspicuous both to learned and vnlearned that the Kingdome of Christ by which he meaneth the Protestant Church was ouerthrowne when the Primacie of the Roman Bishop was erected then seing the sayd Primacie confessedly began in S. Peter himself and since hath euer continued in his Successours the Bishops of Rome it followeth that therfore the Protestant Church hath been ouerthrowne and ruinated euer since the time of S. Peter then which what can be produced more conuincing in proof that the Protestant Church indeed neuer was But to conclude this with that Princely testimonie of K. Henrie Luther (158) In Assertione 7. aduersus Luther Art 2. cannot deny sayth he but that al the Church of the faithful acknowledge and reuerence the holie Roman Sea as their Mother and Chief if they be not debarred accesse by distance of places or by dangers in the Way And yet if they speak truth which come hither from India the verie Indians themselues distant by so manie parts of the Earth of the Seas of the deserts do yet submit themselues to the Bishop of Rome Therefore if the Pope hath obtayned neither by the commandment of God nor by the assent of men so great and so vniuersal power but hath challenged the same to himself by his owne power Let Luther tel me when he burst into possession of so great Dominion Can the beginning of so great power be obscure especially if it began within the memorie of man but if he say that it was aboue one or two Ages agoe let him make vs remember the same out of Historie for otherwise if it be so ancient that the beginning of so great a matter be blotted out let him know that it is prouided by the Lawes that whose right or Title so surpasseth al memorie of men that it cannot be knowne what beginning it had it is iudged to haue had a lawful beginning And it is clearly forbidden by the consent of al Nations that those things be not changed which haue long continued without change So vndoubted it is that this our Catholick doctrine of the Bishops of Romes Primacie hath been generally taught and practised time out of mind euen from S. Peter himself euen to the end of the Primitiue Church and euer since as hath been formerly proued To come now to the Gouernment of the Church before Christs time The Puritans themselues do confesse that (159) Engl. Puritan p. 16. And Hook Eccl. Pol. l. 5. p. 235. The high Priest of the Iewes was typically and in a figure the supreame Head of the whole Catholick Church which though say they it were visible only in the Prouince and Nation of Iewrie yet those of other Nations and Countries as appeareth by the Historie of the Acts euen though they were Aethiopians were vnder this High Priest and acknowledged homage vnto him So that he was c. in verie deed an Oecumenical vniuersal Bishop of the whole world yea sayth M. Iacob (160) Reasons taken out of Gods word p 5. The Iewish Church vnder the Law was National and only One in the world vnder one high Priest
licence Valentine dost thou ouerthrow my fountains c. It is my possession long since I possessed it I possessed it first Yea he prescribeth in general (18) lib. cont Prax. that to be true which is first that false which is later Answerably vnto which writeth S. Hierome of the Luciferians (19) Cont. Lucifer fin In this that they are afterwards begun they shew themselues to be those which the Apostle foretold were to come to wit Hereticks of whome he demandeth further (20) Ep. ad Pamach et Ocean Why doe you go about after 400. yeares to teach that which we knew not before vntil this day the world was Christian without that doctrine With whome agreeth S. Gregorie Nazianzen saying (21) Ep 2. ad Chelid They tel vs as Protestants stil doe of a wisdome hidden since Christ a thing deseruing teares For if Faith began within these 30. yeares seing almost 400. yeares and as I may now say 1600. yeares are past since Christ was openly knowne so long then was the Ghospel in vaine in vaine also our fayth in vaine Martyrs suffred death in vaine also such and so great Bishops did gouerne the people From this verie Argument of Innouation S. Athanasius confuteth the Arians in these words (22) de Decret Nycen Synod Behold we haue proued this doctrine to haue been deliuered to vs from fathers to fathers But you new Iewes and the sonnes of Caiphas what progenitours of your name are you able to shew Of whome also sayth S. Hilarie (23) Lib. 6. de Trin. ant med This our fourth Age hath brought forth ouer late for me these pretended most godlie Doctours S. Austin writing against Donatus vp braydeth his new or late birth in this manner (24) Lib. 3. de Bap cont Donat. c. 2. From whence hath Donatus appeared Out of what earth hath he budded From what sea hath he swum From what heauen hath he fallen And he obiecteth thus vnto the Manichees (25) de Vtilitate Cred. c. 14. But you being so few so turbulent and so new euerie man knoweth you can produce nothing worthie of credit In like sort writing against the Pelagians he vrgeth (26) Cont. Iulian. Pelag l. 2 c. l. that Christian people ought to preferre the sayings of Saints before your profane Nouelties and rather choose to adhere to them then to you Yea Cassiodorus relateth that the (27) Diuin Instit lib. 1. p. 11. most holie Fathers not suffering the true Faith to be wronged ordayned Ecclesiastical Rules in the Councel of Chalcedon striking with the Diuine sword of Excommunication the obstinate Inuentours of new Heresies And Decreing that none ought to bring-in new questions but content with the authoritie of the old approued Doctours should obey the holesome Decrees without deceipt and falshood for there are some who thinke it commendable if they can conceaue anie thing against the ancient writers and inuent something new wherof they may be deemed skilful But I wil cōclude this with this sweetest saying of S. Bernard (28) Ep. 174. Against the custome of the Church nothing at al wil please me presumed Noueltie the mother of Temeritie the sister of Superstition and the daughter of Leuitie What I haue receaued from the Church I securely deliuer So secure it is in al arising difficulties to recurre to Antiquitie and to eschew Noueltie And as thus we haue seen from Scriptures and Fathers the special account euer made of reuerend Antiquitie or Ancestrie and the sharp reprehensions of prophane Noueltie so are there none who seeme more ioyfully to applaude and approue the force of the foresayd Argument then the learnedst Protestants of these our dayes amongst whome for breuitie in a Case so manifest to produce only one of our owne domesticks who for his supposed worth in iudgement and learning may suffise for manie D. Morton affirmeth (29) Appeale for Protestants p. s 11. See also White in the Way to the Chur. Pref. to the Reader n. 17. that our Sauiour Christ by his Parable of the diuers seedes first wheate in the day and then tares in the night doth teach vs that Truth may challenge prioritie of Errour yealding principalitie vnto Truth sayth Tertulian and posteritie vnto lying And so it must needs be because as there must be first iron before there can be rust which canckereth the iron so must there be a virgin-truth before errour which is nothing else but an adulteration therof So that Primum and Verum that is primarie Antiquitie and Truth are both inseparable twins begot and bred in the same instant And againe (30) Ibid p. 512. But tel vs what is Noueltie When the Apostle exhorted his Timothie to keepe that which was committed vnto him and to take heed of profane Nouelties he did in effect instruct him to preserue the doctrine receaued not to suggest anie doctrines newly conceaued as sayth Lyrinensis who accounteth it according vnto Salomon's description a whorish trick to cal anie out of the ancient and beaten way and to say Come vnto me In like sort [31] Ibid p. 679. As it becometh the children of God who commanded that the first-borne euen of the woman that was hated should be respected before the yonger sonne of the beloued wife we albeit hated by our Romish Aduersaries yet only desire that they would hold as S. Chrysostome teacheth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is euerie Noueltie a vanitie and in al Controuersies suffer the first-borne to finde a preheminence by preferring each doctrine according vnto the prime antiquitie Now in this desire of preferring Antiquitie al Catholicks most ioyfully wil ioyne hands with M. Doctour Morton desiring nothing more then that al Questions at this day controuerted between the Roman Church and the Protestant Congregation might strictly be examined and finally decided by the square of Antiquitie And for this cause haue I compiled this Treatise following intending thereby to set downe the true Progenie both of Catholicks and Protestants from what Ancesters they are lineally descended and of what continuance their names and families haue formerly been And although the guard and strength of Truth in this point of Antiquitie is euer such that she resteth stil accompanyed attended and fortified with surest friends strongest towers and best munition yet neuer may she repose in greater quiet or more gloriously appeare with greater honour then when her soueraigne right titles and prerogatiues are plainly admitted granted and acknowledged by the sworne and professed enemies of Truth And yet according to that of S. Austin (32) Cont. Donatist post collat c. 24. Truth is more forcible to wring out confession then anie rack or torment No wit of man can finde out Arguments more conuincing in themselues the truth of Religion then the plaine Texts and literal sense of holie Writ the infallible decrees of the Church and General Councels the vnanimous consent of ancient Fathers and Histories and often the common light of Nature
and Reason itself yet ad hominem as the Schoole-men terme it and for the final preuention of al further Plea shifts and euasions in the Aduersarie no course more speedie no victorie more certain no obiection more vnanswerable then the plaine simple and sincere confession of the Aduersarie himself In Ciuil and temporal differences concerning lands and possessions very forcible and hopeful are the Arguments drawne from the ancient and authentical Euidences from lawful and vninterrupted Prescription from the plaine and literal word and sense of the Law from the swarming consent of Iudges and Councel learned and from sufficient testimonie of most credible aad approued witnesses yet not one no nor al of these ioyntly concurring are anie thing so potent for the speediest and surest decision of the Cause as the free acknowledgement and assent of the Aduersarie only enforced through the rack of clear and vndenyable Truth So Moyses hauing sundrie wayes proued the Goodnes and Power of God Almightie aboue the Gods of the Gentils vrgeth as the strongest argument that the Gentils his [33) Deut. 32.31 Enemies are also Iudges in his behalf Which course likewise obserued S. Paul against the Idolatrous Athenians vrging to the same purpose the authoritie of their owne (34) Act. 17.28 Poets and against the Cretensians he argueth that (35) Tit. 1.12 one of them sayd their owne proper Prophet The Cretensians alwayes lyers naughtie beasts slouthful bellies This testimonie sayth S. Paul is true But this kind of reasoning learned this blessed Doctour from his best Maister Christ our Sauiour who at the last day wil vrge as the clearest proof against the Naughtie seruant his owne confession saying (36) Luc. 19.22 By thine owne mouth I iudge thee naughtie seruant Yea this kind of victorie as most glorious in itself and most disgracious to the enemie God himself vsed against his owne enemies when he caused the Madianitâ—s [37) Iudges 7.22 with their owne swords to murther one another as also against the Aegyptians when he sayd (38) Esay 19.2 I wil make the Aegyptians to runne togeather against the Aegyptians and a man shal fight against his brother and euerie man against his friend cittie against cittie kingdome against kingdome A confusion and ruine then which none greater So likewise when the Amalachite had confessed to Dauid that he had killed Saul Dauid commanded him to be slaine saying (39) 2. Reg. 11.16 Thy bloud be vpon thine owne head for thine owne mouth hath spoken against thee saying I haue slaine the annoynted of our Lord. And as the Prophets and Apostles thus affected this kind of Argument so was it stil pursued by the ancient Fathers So S. Ireneus disputing sundrie wayes how God the Sonne reuealeth vnto vs his Father affirmeth (40] Aduers Haeres l. 4. c. 14. that it is necessarie that the truth receaue testimonie from al c. from domesticals because they are friends from externals because they are enemies for that proof is true and without contradiction sayth he which produceth testimonie from the Aduersaries themselues Agreably said Nouatian whilst he was Catholick Firme is that kind of proof [41) De Trinit c. 18. which is taken euen from the aduersaries of truth S. Augustin endeauouring to proue against the Iewes that some that liued before Christ's time were saued that were not Iewes affirmeth that (42) li 18. de Ciuit. Dei c. 47. nothing is stronger to conuince al others if they shal contend heerof or to confirme ours if they shal conceaue aright then that â—hese diuine Prophecies concerning Christ be produced which are written in the bookes of the Iewes themselues Tertulian auoucheth that (43) In Apologet none wil lye to his owne shame but rather for his honour and that therefore more credit is to be giuen to such as denye in behalf of themselues And Tullie vrgeth his Aduersarie saying (44) Orat. P. Quint. Thy testimonie which in another man's cause is smal worth against thyself is weightie So that the Argument drawne from the confession of the Aduersaries is the proof most conuincing against the Aduersarie himself A truth so cleare that none more fully acknowledge the same then our moderne Protestants amongst whome writeth D. Morton thus (45) Appeale Ep. Ded. Which kind of assistance of learned Aduersaries the Apologists themselues haue layd downe for the greatest reason of satisfaction and we do accordingly admit For if it be held an excellent point of Physick Ex vipera theriacum to turne poyson into an antidote against poyson and in God accounted a high degree of vengeance to turne the Aegyptians against the Aegyptians and in Dauid celebrated as a principal matter of triumph to cut of Goliah his head with his owne sword and in Christ obserued as an vnanswerable kind of conuiction to iudge the euil seruant from his owne mouth and acknowledged in S. Paul as the most expedite meanes of confutation in the men of Crete to oppose against them their owne Poet whome he calleth their Prophet then may we iustly presume better of our cause wherin our Romish Aduersaries wil proue our rightful Aduocats For it must needs be acknowledged say other (46) Academ Ne mens Resp p. 84. Protestants for a great peece of work to conuince the Aduersarie from himself In like sort sayth D. Whitaker (47) De Eccles Contr. 2 q 5. p. 366 Bellarmine maketh the confession of the Aduersaries to be the Thirteenth Mark of the Church Surely the argument must needs be strong which is taken from hence c. For the testimonie of the Aduersaries wil be effectual against themselues c. And truly I doe acknowledge that Truth enforceth testimonie euen from her enemies c. With him agreeth D. Field saying (48) Of the Church p. 182. The next Note whereby Bellarmine endeauoureth to proue the Romish Synagogue to be the true Church of God is our owne confession Surely if he can proue that we confesse it to be the Church he needeth not to vse anie other arguments (49) Common Places Part. 2 p. 329. Doubtles sayth Peter Martyr among al testimonies that testimonie is of greatest account which is testifyed by the enemies (50) Peace of Rome Ep. Dedic fol. 1. I offer to your Highnes sayth M. Hal their fight against themselues and therin for vs. What can be more aduantage to vs or shame to them One blow of an enemie delt to his brother is more worth then manie from an aduerse hand Al our Apologies cannot hurt them so much as their owne diuisions And M. Cooke acknowledgeth that the testimonie 15 of a friend against a friend (51) In his Pope Ioane Pref. And see Dilingam cont Bellarm ep Dedic and of an enemie for an enemie is inuincible Lastly our late and most liberal Writer D. Beard auoucheth [52) Retractiue fâ—om Romish Religion p 149. see White in the Way to the Chur. Pref. to the Reader n. 18. that
say Certaine doubtful incommodious speeches occurre in some Fathers As in the Epistle of Ignatius ad Smyrnenses Ignatius sayth It is not lawful without a Bishop to offer or Sacrifice Which words they censure (38) Ibid. col 167. to be dangerous as the seeds of errour But M. Beacon (39) Reliq of Rome fol. 344. confesseth that The Masse was begotten conceaued borne anone after the Apostles times if al be true that Historiographers write In like sort (40) Epist de AbrogaÌ„dis Statutis Eccl siae Sebastiaenus Francus confesseth that Presently after the Apostles al things were turned vpside downe c. the Supper of the Lord was turned into a Sacrifice And another Protestant 41 Writer speaking of the first Roman Bishops after S. Peter sayth Let no man think it strange that the Successours of the Apostles haue from time to time corrupted the true vse of this holie Sacrament of the Eucharist And agayne (42) A French wryten in his six godly Treat Engl. p. 48. How was it possible that the first Bishops of Rome should draw the Princes Senatours and Romans vnto the Ghospel during the first 300. or 400. yeares after Christ seing they did not labour but to corrupt the vse of the holie Sacraments and to restore the Iudaical Ceremonies the Idolatries of the Heathen meaning therby External Sacrifice and the Ceremonies therof In which sense also Hospinian (43) Hist Sacram. l. 1. c. 6. p. 20. affirmeth that Euen in the first Age the Apostles yet liuing the Diuel dared to lay snares more to this Sacrament then to Baptisme by litle litle did withdraw men from the first forme therof And M. Ascham (44) Apol. pro caena Domini p. 31 a Prime Protestant plainly acknowledgeth (42) Ibid. p. 66. that no beginning of Sacrifice after the Apostles time can be shewed saying At what time or by what men the Supper of the Lord was cast out of possession by the Masse can not truly be knowne Thus haue we seen the Fathers in particular euen vp to the Apostles times acknowledged and reproued by Protestant Writers for their doctrine and practise of the Sacrifice of the Masse But the truth herein is so euident and the Fathers doctrine so general as that for greater breuitie they are in grosse reiected by Caluin (45) De vera Eccl. Reform extant in Tractat. Theolog. Theol. Calu. p. 389. The ancient Fathers sayth he are not to be excused so far forth as it appeareth that they are altered from the pure proper institution of Christ for seing the Supper was to be celebrated to this end that we might communicate with Christs Sacrifice they not content therwith added also oblation this Addition I affirme to be faultie c. And againe (46) In omnes Pauli Epist in Heb. c. 7. p 924. speaking in general of the ancient Doctours of the Church possessed with this opinion he further addeth verily as Errour is accustomed to draw errour with it when they had forged a Sacrifice in the Supper of Christ without his commandment so adulterated the Supper with adding of Sacrifice afterwards they endeauoured of euerie side to procure colours or pretences wherwith to cloak their errour As also (47) Inst l. 4 c. 18. sec 11. I see those old Fathers to haue detorted this Memorie otherwise then was agreable to the Institution of our Lord in that their Supper carryed the face of I know not what reâ—teâ—ated or at least renewed Sacrifice c for they more neerly imitated the Iewish manner of Sacrificing then either Christ had ordayned or the rule of the Ghospel permitted In like sort sayth D. Fulk 48) Reioynder to Bristowes Reply p. 28. See Zâ—pperus de Sacr. p. 47. Hospinian H st Sacr. p 592. The name of Sacrifice which the Fathers vsed commonly for celebration of the Lords Supper they took of the Gentils and Iewes but how proue you they had it from the Scriptures And D. Field (49) Of the Church l. 3. c. 19 p. 107 for his best euasion affirmeth that The reason doubtles that moued the Fathers so much to vrge that mystical Sacrifice of Christ in the blessed Sâ—crament was for that they liued in the midst of Iewes Gentils both whose Religions consisted principally in Sacrifice The Fathers therfore to shew that Christian Religion is not without Sacrifice that of a more excellent nature then theyrs were did much vrge that Christ once offred for the Sinnes of the world vpon the Altar of his Crosse is daily in mysterie offred slayne his bloud powred out on the holie Table And that this Sacrifice of Christ slayne for the sinnes of the world thus continually represented liuing in our memories is the Sacrifice of Christians But the Fathers are so ful herein as that they further teach that the Sacrifice of the Masse is propitiatorie or able to appease Gods wrath and cause remission of sinnes (52) Cent. 4 col 295. (50) De Opificio Missae p. 167. Chrastouius reciting the Fathers opinion hereof confesseth that The sayings of the Fathers do not only import Impetration but a certain intrinsecal force of appeasing Origen hom 13. in Leuitie sayth This is the only Commemoration which maketh God propitious to men Athanasius in serm de Defunctis apud Damascenum sayth The oblation of the vnbloudie Hoste is a Pâ—opitiation To which end he alledgeth likewise further the particular Sayings of Ambrose Chrisostom Augustin Gregorie Bâ—de and of the Third Councel of Bâ—ach S. Cyril of Hierusalem Catech. 5. calling it in this sense The Hoste of Propitiation And the greatest help of Soules departed for which it is offered is therfore reproued by Hospinian (51) Hist Sacr. p 167. See Osiand cent 4. p. 227. Hutt câ— Sacrif Miss p 525. who withal confesseth that it was the receaued Custome of S. Cyrils time And for the same doctrine is reiected S. Ambrose (52) Cent. 4. col 295. S. Cyprian (53.a.) Cent. 3. col 138. 139 And see Osiand cent 3. p. 10. Tertulian by the Centurists In like sort the Fathers describe in particular this Sacrifice to be a Sacrifice according to the order of Melchisedech which was of bread and wine wherein S. Austin is so cleare that D. Morton in his very (54.b) Prot. Appeale p. 166. obiecting of him yet acknowledgeth that S. Austin held That Melchisedechs offering was a Sacrifice (54) Lib. de vera Eccl. Reform p. 389. Caluin auoucheth that It is vsual to those knaues meaning Catholick Writers to scrape togeather whatsoeuer is corrupt in the Fathers c. when therefore they obiect to vs the place of Malachie to be expounded by Ireneus of the Sacrifice of the Masse the Sacrifice of Melchisedech to be so handled by Athanasius Ambrose Augustin Arnobius let it be briefly answered the self same Writers els-where also to expound bread to be the Bodie of Christ but so
Truth like a chast matrone though it be slandred yet is so bold and powerful that it feareth not to be tryed by those that are the greatest enemies therof Now this kind of inuincible and vnanswerable argument haue I specially chosen and pursued throughout this Treatise following as wel thereby to take the most speedie surest course for the final deciding of Cōtrouersies as also clearly to preuent the endles shifts euasions and deceipts so generally and so cunningly practised by al kind of Sectaries For who would not thinke but that anie man of iudgement and learning diligently perusing the large and learned Works but only of Cardinal Bellarmine and Iodocus Coccius men so studious payneful and sincere in describing the pedigree of the Church of Christ but that he would easily see iudge and confesse the ancient primitiue Church Faith and Religion the most approued General Councels and learnedst Doctours the most authentical Records Histories and Monuments of those purest times al of them to testifye to depose and confirme the self-same Truth Faith and Religion which the present Roman Church at this day beleeueth practiseth and professeth And yet what a world of tricks fallacies and inuentions hath the Enemie suggested to our moderne Hereticks for the blemishing and obscuring of that clearest glasse of the Primitiue Church wherin our present Roman is so liuely represented Who would thinke it equal to oppose a dark and casual saying of S. Austin for example against his knowne practise and laboured proof to the contrarie And who would not blush to oppose S. Austin to his fowlest disgrace as contrarie to himself What more desperate course can be taken then to censure his most certain writings for counterfet because they contradict and confute their impious Nouelties What greater schisme can be raised against the Church then to pretend her chiefest Bishops Doctours and Pastours in the chiefest articles of Faith to be at mutual and deadlie warres amongst themselues What more audacious temeritie and base ingratitude can Malice itself offer to those our so noble Progenitours then to alter and corrupt their learnedst writings which as clearest euidences for the Catholick Faith they bequeathed to Posteritie And yet these and manie more then these are the ordinarie Sophismes of our late Sectaries For the surest and final preuention of al which what shorter or more expedite course can I take then Protestants for example appealing to the Primitiue Church and her Doctours and Pastours to produce themselues confessing al these to be their Enemies and the Teachers and Patrons of Papistrie How more vnanswerably can I conuince that S. Austin beleeued taught our Catholick doctrine of Purgatorie Prayer and Sacrifice for the Dead then if sundrie Protestants of greatest knowledge and reading not beleeuing the same doctrine themselues doe yet acknowledge and reproue the same in S. Austin Now whether in this Treatise following I performe this and that by the confessions not of few or of those of the least esteeme but of very manie and those of the primest Protestants that are or euer were and these not only reprouing S. Austin but with him S. Ambrose S. Gregorie S. Hierome S. Chrysostom S. Leo S. Epiphanius S. Gregorie Nazianzen S. Gregorie Nyssen S. Cyril S. Hilarie S. Basil S. Cyprian S. Ireneus S. Ignatius S. Dionisius and the rest of the most renowned Doctours of the purest and most approued times and this not only in the Doctrine of Purgatorie but in al the points of chiefest weight I remit myself wholy to the seuerest Censures of al Iudicious and Diligent Readers THE EPISTLE DEDICATORIE TO M. DOCTOVR MORTON SVPERINTENDENT OF LICHFIELD AND COVENTRIE GOOD M. Doctour As yourself were occasionally the principal motour for me to compose this Treatise following so haue seueral reasons since summoned themselues to my serious thoughts for the further presenting of the same vnto you For who now more renowned in the new English Church for his supposed learning then yourself Who more paynefully hath laboured for the promoting of the Protestant Ghospel then D. Morton Who higher aduanced meerly for the former respects from his lowest fortunes then the Superintendent of Lichfield And therefore I cannot but expect tbat your kinde acceptance wil afford some luster vnto it at least in the eyes of your illuminated Brethren Wherof I rest also very confident in that the method generally obserued therin by concluding my intent from the confession of my Aduersaries is the course specially affected and studyed by yourself in al your writings which cannot but beget some better liking in your setled iudgement therof But that indeed Sir which did chiefly induce me aboue the rest both to compile and dedicate this Work as you see was your Appeale for Protestants made in answer to the Protestāts Apologie for the Roman Church For hauing diligently perused and examined this our Apologie and finding the Arguments there framed to be most concluding the testimonies produced to be most pertinent and al this euer to be backed and strengthned with the answerable acknowledgements of Protestants themselues I must confesse my thirsting curiositie was such as that neither my thoughts nor desires were at rest vntil with like diligēce I had perused and examined your Protestants Appeale Which finding to be such as I wil shortly describe I was hēce encouraged to make yet further vse of the foresayd Apologie conioyning therewith some labours of my owne in that kind which as I desire they may be profitable to al so to yourself most earnestly I wish And so now briefly to discouer to yourself and al other iudicious Readers the manner of your answer vsed throughout your whole Appeale M. Brierlie a Catholick Roman Priest presuming to present vnto his Maiestie of Great Britanie our Soueraigne Lord King Iames his humble Petition in behalf of the Catholicks of England so grieuously pressed and persecuted during the Raigne of Q. Elizabeth his late Predecessour amongst innumerable Motiues which as so manie darts would presently wound a hart so sensible of his Subiects miseries iniuries and oppressions he specially selected the sweetest harmonie and most pleasing concord in matters Diuine and Celestial between the Ancient Apostolick and Catholick Faith of the Primitiue Church of Christ and our present Roman nothing doubting but that the bare presenting of the louelie face of so gray Antiquitie would timely beget in so generous and noble a Mind an immouable loue and liking to al her true heires and lawful posteritie But M. Brierlie further knowing the malignant Enemie his ordinarie imposture in sending forth Emissaries for the dazeling and deluding of the best aspects in preuention therof and al other imaginable deceit in that kind the self-same Emissaries his greatest enemies he specially picked for his chiefest Aduocats strangely but indeed most strongly affecting the equitie of his Cause to be finally decided by no other Iudge then the Aduersarie therof For wheras the indubitate writings of the ancientest Fathers the sacred Decrees
controuersies whatsoeuer the absolute necessitie of finding-out the true Church seing the finding-out therof is the surest finding of the right path which leadeth directly vnto al truth In which regard sayth D. Field most iudiciously (16) Epi. dedicat of the church The consideration of vnhappie diuisions of the Christian world and the infinit distractions of mens minds not knowing in so great varietie of opinions what to think or to whom to ioyne themselues c. hath made me euer to think that there is no part of heauenlie knowledge more necessarie then that which concerneth the Church For seing the controuersies of Religion in our time are growne in number so manie and in nature so intricate that few haue time and leasure fewer strength of vnderstanding to examine them what remaineth for men desirous of satisfaction in things of such consequence but diligently to search out which amōg al the Societies of men in the world is c. that Spouse of Christ and Church of the liuing God which is the Pillar and Ground of truth that so they may imbrace her communion follow her direction and rest in her iudgement But what Catholick can speak more plainly and fully then D. Field here doth either for the necessitie of finding-out the true Church or for our following and obseruing her directions and Sentence when she is found And agreably hereunto D. White speaking of the Common-people sayth (17) Ep ded to the vvay to the true church And see ParKins on the reuel p. 344. And Iames his retraite soūded to Brovvnists fol. 1. 6. If by certain markes they could find which is the true Church there would remaine little difficultie in the rest forsomuch as therein they should find the truth in euerie controuersie The like necessitie vrgeth Caluin saying (18) Inst li. 4. c. 1. sec 4. Because I haue now determined to dispute of the visible Church let vs learne by the onlie testimonie of our Mothers praise how profitable ea how necessarie to vs is the knowledge therof seing there is no other entrance into life vnles she conceaue vs in her womb vnles she bring vs forth vnles c. vnder her custodie and protection she defend vs vntil we dye c. Adde that out of her bosome no Remission of sinnes is to be hoped for With whom agreeth M. Mornay (19) of the chur p. 1. God would saith he that the Church should be honoured for the Mother of al those of whom he vouchsafeth to be Father Seing therefore that God alloweth none for his children but those that are borne againe and brought-vp in this Church if we desire our saluation it is necessarie we know her in whose lap we haue it c. we must not seek saluation for anie but in her And againe (20) vol. 1. 3. Into the visible Church al they must retire themselues in this world that wil be gathered in the inuisible Church in the world to come M. Parkins confesseth that (21) Ib pa. pag. 308. The Arke out of which al perished figured the Church out of which al are condemned c. out of the Militant Church there are no meanes of Saluation no preaching of the Word no inuocation of Gods name no Sacraments and therefore no Saluation And speaking of such as be without that is saith he forth of the Church they are dogs enchanters whoremongers adulterers c. Now from al this I wil only briefly conclude that the Church of God is not only most ancient and in that regard greatly to be honoured reuerenced and preferred but being likewise confessedly directed by the Spirit of God in discerning iudging the truth in matters of Faith that therefore in al doubts arising in matters of Religion we may with greatest safetie and quiet to our minds repose our soules and consciences vpon the Authoritie Iudgement and Determination of the sayd Church Yea further seing it is agreed vpon by al parties that out of the true Church there is no Saluation how lamentable is the state of obstinat Hereticks who through pertinacie in errour and infidelitie are quite cut-of cast out of the Church And how much to be deplored are vncharitable Schismaticks who for false fraile and earthlie respects do foolishly diuide themselues from the Arke of Saluation liuing continually like brute beasts without al spiritual food and nutriment to their soules depriued of supernal grace conueyed by Christs holie Sacraments debarred from the sweetest communion and purest conuersation with their dearest Mother and al this for no other respect or pretence then that only which by S. Iohn was blamed in the Pharisees who (22) Io. 12.42 43. did not confesse Christ that they might not be cast out of the Synagogue For they loued the glorie of men more then the glorie of God THAT THE PRESENT ROMAN CHVRCH AND Religion for these last thousand yeares after Christ haue stil continued most Knowne and Vniuersal throughout the Christian world CHAPTER II. NOW for our certaine finding-out of this true Church so necessarie to Saluation we are to suppose for the present that the true Church is euer to continue euen from Christs time vntil the end of the world wherefore to make this good in our behalf and against our Aduersaries Sundrie and strongest are the proofes wherewith the Euer-during and Vniuersal continuance of the Roman Catholick Religion for these last thousand yeares might euidently be conuinced As the Catholick Coronations and State-gouernment of al Christiā Emperours Kings and Princes The fairest Records of al Lawes Canon Ciuil or Municipal The ancient Seas of Bishops and Archbishops The famous Monuments of Monasteries Hospitals Churches and the like And al Doctours and men most renowned either for Learning or Sanctitie who by their writings or workes haue testifyed to al posteritie that the Religion of their dayes and seueral Countries wherin they liued and which themselues belieued and professed was one and the same with our present Roman Yet to omit al these and much more which might be vrged to the same effect In a case so manifest and confessed I wil content my self with the plentiful acknowledgements of my greatest Aduersaries who through the clearest splendour of our Roman Religion and Piety during al the foresaid Ages are enforced euen by the rack of truth and strōgest Euidences though to the foulest disgrace of themselues and manifest confirmation condemnation of their Sect or Religion plainly to admit grant and confesse the foresayd continuance of our Roman Religion and that most Vniuersal in al Nations for these last thousand yeares For though D. Morton ouer-boldly attempteth to affirme that M. Brierly his passage (1) Prot. App. p. 574. from the dayes of Gregorie c. vnto these present times c. for the inuiolable cōtinuāce of our now Romish Faith is praecipitare nō descēdere an issue voyd of consent and a reckoning as we say without their Hoste yet what Bellarmin or other Iesuit in the
these words I doubt not but S. Bernard Francis and manie other holie men erred as concerning Masse Osiander saith of S. Bede (25) Cent. 8. p. 58. He was wrapped in al the Popish errours in which we dissent at this day from the Pope for c. he admired and followed Popish Masses And yet sayth Osiander He was a good man (26) In Iaecobs defence of the churc c pag. 13. M. Iohnson sayth Did not Iohn Husse that worthie champion of Christ and others also of the Martyrs of foretimes say and heare Masse euen to their dying day c. did not diuers of them acknowledge some the Popes calling and Supremacie some seauen Sacraments some auricular Confession c. The Centurists speaking of the eleuenth Age after Christ confesse and say (27) Cēt. 11 c. 4. col 233. The Idolatrical Masse did bewitch al the Doctours of this Age. And they charge the tenth Age (28) Cēt. 10. c. 6. col 307. with the Stage-like spectacle Sacrifice for the liuing and the dead (29) Cent. 9 c. 6. col 245. 246. They affirme likewise the same of the ninth Age numbring vp the ceremonies of the Masse yet to this day vsual The eight Age likewise is reproued by thē for the (30) cent 8. c. 6. col 361. Stage-like spectacle Sacrifice for the liuing and the dead The seauenth Age is reproued for the vse of (31) cent 7. c. 6. col 154. 457. Osiander con 7. pa. 189. Masse celebrated in Latin and for vsing (32) cent 7. c. 4. col 113. Osiand cent 7. col 186. Masse for the dead And the like they affirme of the other Centuries D. Doue (33) In his defence of Church-gouern pa. 68. acknowledgeth yet further in plainest tearmes that Al our Parish-churches were not only the Popes ordinance but also ordayned for celebration of Masse and so employed from their first erection vntil this late reformation of the Church c. (34) De Sacrif Miss pag. 377. D. Hutter publick Professour in the Vniuersitie of Wittemberg sayth I do willingly grant the Popish mad Idolatrie the very Sinew or strength wherof is the Sacrifice of the Masse to haue inuaded almost the whole world especially these last thousand yeares But from thence I gather most euidently this Masse to haue been the cup wherewith the Roman Antichrist infected bewitched al the Kings of the earth and almost the whole world (35) In his reliques of Rome f. 344. M. Beacon whom other (36) The Ministers of Lyncolnsh in their Abridgment c. p. 65. Protestants affirme to be a Diuine of chiefe note in their church is of opinion that The Masse was fully finished by Pope Gregorie the First about Anno Domini 600. c. and frō Charles the Great vnto Charles the Fift the Masse raigned as a most mightie Queen in al the churches of the West part of the world And the like is confessed by (37) De Antich p. 101. Danaeus saying From the yeare of Christ's Passion 666. that blasphemous kingdome of Antichrist was openly and publickly established in the Church of God which the Spirit of God foretold verily this verie time and yeare that execrable and Papistical Masse c. began to be celebrated euery where in Latin But (38) In Apocal in 9 p. 199. Chiltraeus chargeth S. Gregorie that he established manie foule errours and especially the Idolatrous Inuocation of Saints and Masses for the dead which from that time as a Deluge haue ouerflowed the whole Church D. Hutter (39) De Sacr Miss l 1. c. 6. p. 103. p. 377. in this questiō of Masse and Sacrifice giueth a Supersedeas to al the Fathers that liued after the first fiue hundred yeares saying we do not respect later Fathers then of the first fiue Ages (40) De captiuit Babyl c. 1. Luther acknowledgeth that The Masse is beleeued euerie where to be a Sacrifice which is offered to God To these agree the Sayings of holie Fathers so manie examples and so great practice constantly obserued through the world And a litle after Luther further sayth Let it not trouble thee that the whole world thinketh and doth the contrarie But though Luther laboured not to be troubled at his despising and reiecting of the Masse when the whole world did think and do the contrarie yet I hope sundrie other Protestants not of so seared consciences obseruing themselues to haue thus Apostated from the whole world in this so important a Doctrine of the Sacrifice of the Masse wil not only be troubled but much incited to re-vnite themselues to the whole Christian world Neither was this so general practice of the Masse only vsed or allowed by the Clergie or vulgar people for Caluin (41) Instit li 4. c. 18 sec 18. affirmeth that The abomination of the Masse hath made drunk or besotted al the Kings and people of the earth from the greatest to the least And agayne (42) Ib. sect 1. 43. Hist Sacram epsti dedicat 1. The Roman Antichrist and his Prophets haue taught the whole world this opinion In like manner sayth 43 Hospinian Al the Kings Princes people of the earth hitherto from the first six hundred yeares were made drunk with the Masse as with a certain enchanted cup. The like wherof was confessed before by D. Hutter So clear it is that the publick seruice vsed in al churches for these last thousand yeares and whereunto al kings Princes and people were vsed to resort was the holie Liturgie or Sacrifice of the Masse From the premisses then we haue our Protestants Apologie for the most visible and vniuersal cōtinuance of our Roman Church and Religion for these last thousand yeares the splendour whereof being such and so generally extended as that their Protestāt Church themselues confesse was not so much as then visible to the world Secondly the Faith doctrine taught by al Popes during the foresayd time was so wholy consonant to ours at this day as that therfore they are no lesse censured for Antichrists then our Pope now raigning Thirdly the Popes Supremacie in matters Ecclesiastical and the Sacrifice of the Masse being the two weightiest points of al matters now cōtrouerted are here confessed to haue been generally belieued and practised during the same precinct Fourthly it is likewise grāted that euē Al our Parish-churches were the Popes ordinance and for celebration of Masse and so employed from their first erection vntil this late pretended Reformation of the Church by Luther The truth of al which is so palpable as that I haue vsed no other proofes in confirmation thereof then only the clear testimonies free grantes of the greatest Aduersaries to the Roman Churh as for externals of Luther Caluin the Centurie-writers Osiander Hospinian Danaeus Simon de Voyon Hutterus Chytraeus For domesticks of Whitaker Fulk Downeham Parkins Powel Wotton Tyndal Iohnson Doue Beacon Morton A FVRTHER CONFIRMATION OF THE VNIVERSAL
who liued vnder the Tyrannie of Antichrist I wil not stand vpon M. Sanders may haue great store of such For (103) Against Rhem. Test in Heb. 10.11 Bede liued in a superstitious time long after Antichrist did openly shew himself c. He affirmed that Men vnderstood that the healthful Sacrifice auayled to Redemption both of bodie and soul euerlasting and (104) Ib. in 1. Pet. 3.19 In some things was carryed away with the errours and corruptions of his time By which it clearly appeareth that in the Age of S. Bede the Popes of Rome were so Roman Catholick and the external gouernment of the Church thereto so answerable that our moderne Protestants do therfore traduce those ancient Popes for Antichrists and their Gouernment for Tyrannie In the Age before S. Bede liued the two most famous Brethren named Eualdi whom M. Bale tearmeth (105) In Catal. Scrip. c. Cēt. 14. p. 145. Osiand Cent. 7. p. 559. Papistical Martyrs suffring for Papistrie And though D. Morton (106) Prot. Appeal p. 67. 68. endeauoureth to obscure this by affirming that Protestant Writers were doubtful whether the sayd Brethren dyed by the hands of Christians or Infidels which later himself thinketh more probable yet this hindreth not but according to his Brother Bale and Osiāder cited by himself that they dyed for our Roman Faith Yea so litle was this doubt that D. Morton himself sayth If notwithstanding Catholicks shal insist in their clayme of these Two suffring death in maintenāce of Papal Iurisdiction ouer forraine Churches miserable wil be their issue especially considering that we haue manie Twoes to oppose against these euen a thousand and two hundred religious Britans who in a resolute resistāce of that Iurisdictiō and Authoritie of Austin the Legate of S. Gregorie dyed vnder the hands of Pagans and as Galfrid speaketh suffred Martyrdome But to omit that Protestants (107) Carthvvright in his 2. Reply part 1. p. 475. themselues charge this Galfrid with vntruth and too too childish errours wherof his owne (108) See l. 8. c. 19. l. 9. c. 4. l. 10. c. 3. l. 12. c. 4. c. writings wil be best witnesses as also that D. Morton doth vntruly and vndeseruedly referre the death of these religious Britans occasionally to S. Augustin I can not yet but obserue the greatest penurie of ancient Protestant Martyrs when D. Morton is glad to clayme for such those who liued and dyed Catholick Monks euen the Monks of Bangor So great a Bangor doth our Doctour make in making Protestants Ministers and Martyrs of Religious Monks THAT THE FAITH OF S. GREGORIE AND S. Augustin and whereto England was by them conuerted was our Roman Catholick and not Protestant CHAPTER IV. TO arise euen to the height or beginning of these last thousand yeares and first to examine the Faith of S. Gregorie and his time Concerning him D. Morton writeth (1) Prot. Appeal p 5. wee willingly cōfesse that S. Gregorie was an happie Father of the Faith of manie and deliuered to thē the sauing knowledge of Christ crucifyed And as cōcerning our Countries Conuersion by him he further sayth (2) Prot. Appeal p. 60. This happines of our English Conuersion to the Faith of Christ and worthines of our Conuerter S. Gregorie we could easily acknowledge without anie further adoe c And againe our Protestants Authours looking on their right hand beholding how Pagans and Heathnish people c. by the light of the Ghospel through the Ministerie of Austin the Legat of S. Gregorie were brought vnto the Fold of Christ did togeather with the Angels of heauen reioyce in remembrance of this their happines and therefore called it a gratious Conuersion And that most iustly seing our sayd Conuersion was confessedly from Paganisme to the true Faith of Christ for so Hollinshead testifyeth that (3) Description of Britannie l. 11. c. 7. S. Austin was sent by Gregorie to preach to English-men the Word of God who were yet blind in Pagan superstition And Anno 596. Gregorie sent Austin into this Ile to preach the Christian Faith vnto the English Saxons which Nation as yet had not receaued the Ghospel Agreably also hereunto sayth M. Cambden (4) Descript Britan. p. 104. Austin hauing rooted-out the Monsters of Heathnish superstition ingrafting Christ in English-mens minds with most happie successe conuerted them to the Faith And the like is acknowledged by M. Fox (5) Act. Mon. 110. 115. 172. Bale Cent. 1. c. 73. Cent. c. 1. VvitaKer cont Dur. p. 394. Cooper chron anno 599. Stovv 596. M. Bale D. Whitaker D. Cowper Now this Faith was so certainly the Faith planted by Christ and his Apostles that M. Fox calleth it (6) Act. Mon. p. 111. 120. 122 The Christian Faith (7) Ib. p. 115. 116. the Faith and Doctrine of Christ (8) Ib p. 121. Christs Religion and that Church The Church of Christ and The (9) Ib. p. 112. perfect Faith of Christ Cowper styleth it (10) Chron. anno 636. The right Beleef Stow (11) Chron. p. 9. The Christian Faith and (12) Ibid. p. 72. pure and incorrupted Christianitie Cambden (13) Descript Brit. p. 519. The true Religion of Christ (14) In vit Paulin. Godwine The Ghospel and sundrie such like Now this our Conuersion to this Faith of Christ by the meanes of Saint Gregorie was in truth a Blessing so great that (15) Cont. Duraeum l. 5. p. 394. 502. 397. D. Whitaker most humbly thus writeth therof we wil euer most gratefully remember that great benefit which Gregorie bestowed vpon vs And I confesse S. Gregorie to haue been a good and holie man c. He was a learned and holie Bishop (16) Iesuit p. 2. p. 624. D. Humfrey tearmeth him therefore Gregorie in name Great and indeed Great and M. Bel (17) Suruey of Poperie p. 187. calleth him S. Gregorie surnamed the Great the holie and learned Bishop of Rome According to (18) Cent. 1. c. 68. M. Bale He was the most excellent of al the Bishops of Rome for learning and life That against his wil and striuing to the contrarie and at last compelled he succeeded Pope Pelagius That he was a learned and good man founded Hospitals inuited Pilgrims to his Table sent things necessarie to the Monkes of Hierusalem and maintayned three thousand Virgins (19) Ibid. c. 7. He reduced the Gothes from Arianisme to the Church professed himself by writing the Seruant of Gods seruants that thereby he might appeare most far from al Ambition and desire of command In like sort is S. Augustin honoured by M. Godwine (20) Catalog of Bish. p. 7. and See Cābd Descript Brit. p 515. 178. Bale Cent. 13. c. 7. Cent. 14. c. 13. with the Title of our Apostle Wherof also sayth M. Mason (21) Consecration of English Bishops p. 57. 58. for as much as Lethardus gathered but a few clusters and the mayne Vintage was reserued
Councel And agayne (2) Ib. p. 19. Neither is that speach altogeather to be disliked that a Councel is the Church Representatiue M. Ridley further auoucheth that (3) Act. Mon. p. 1288. Councels do indeed represent the vniuersal Church and being so gathered togeather in the name of Christ they haue a promise of the guift and guyding of his Spirit into al truth And the same Doctrine is proued by D. Bilson saying (4) Perpetual Gouernement p. 392. As in Ciuil Policie not al Persons are called togeather but certayne Chiefe to represent the State and consult for the whole Common-wealth So in the Gouernement of the Church it is as sufficient in right that some of euerie place excelling others in dignitie should be sent from euerie Realme far distant and by that meanes they had the consent of the whole world to the Decrees of their Councels The Councel thus liuely representing the Church it is herevpon further granted by D. Bilson that as (5) Ib. p 372. To haue no Iudge for the ending of Ecclesiastical contentions were the vtter subuersion of al peace so according to him (6) Ib. p. 370 Synods are an external iudicial meanes to discerne errour the same being as he teacheth (7) Ib. p. 372. strengthned with the Promise of our Sauiour and accordingly obserued by the ancient Fathers who sayth he (8) Ib. p. 374. In al Ages aswel before as since the great Councel of Nice haue approued and practised this course as the surest meanes to decide Doubts With whom agreeth Melancthon saying (9) In Concil Theol. par 2. p. 1. Let them assemble General or National Councels c. Because it is written Tel the Church This was the custome in the Church from the verie beginning c. And Councels are the proper Iudgements of the Church And (10) Ib. p. 2. And see l. 1. Epist. p. 211. It is requisit that there be Iudgements in the Church neither can other Nations but be scandalized if they shal heare that we refuse the Iudgements of al Synods And wheras some obiect that Councels may erre M. Hooker (11) Ecc. Pol. p. 27. answereth therto himself and further concludeth that (12) Ib. p. 28. The wil of God is to haue vs do whatsoeuer the Sentence of Iudicial and Final Decision shal determine yea though it seeme in our priuate opinion to swarue vtterly from that which is right c. And that without this it is almost impossible we should auoyd confusion or euer hope to attayne peace And this Sentence sayth he (13) Ib. p. 28. is ground sufficient for anie reasonable mans conscience to build vpon whatsoeuer his owne opinion were as touching the matter before in question The same truth is taught by his dearest friend D. Couel assuring vs that If (14) Modest Examination p. 110. Synods want the Church neither at anie time was nor indeed can safely be without Tempests yea sundrie Protestants do ioyntly teach and gather from the Councel of the Apostles mentioned in their Acts (15) Act. 15.2 c. the necessitie of Councels (16a) Vvhite in his Def. p. 661. Carthwr 16. p. 678. Raynolds in his Confer p. 254. 255 Bilson in his Perpet Gouern. p. 373. for the deciding of Controuersies and further acknowledge the presence and assistance of the (16b) Bilson ib. p. 372. 373. 374. Ridley Act. Mon. p. 1288. Holie Ghost in direction of them into al truth From hence it is that sundrie Protestants do nothing doubt to submit themselues and their writings to the Iudgement and Determination of a general Councel So their learnedst Beza in a Preface (17) Ad Acta Colloq Montisbel Resp p. 1. p. 2. to one of his books thus submitteth himself Let al these be submitted to the Iudgements of al true Doctours and Orthodoxal Diuines and especially of a free holie and lawful Synod if God shal grant it at anie time M. Hooker testifyeth that (18) Pref. to Eccl. Pol. p. 28 2◠M. Beza in his last book but one professeth himself to be now wearie of such combats and encounters whether by word or writing insomuch as he findeth that Controuersies are therby made but brawles and therfore wisheth that in some common lawful assemblie of Church al these strifes may be at once decided (19) Diuers Degrees of Ministers in his Epistle to the Ministers of the Low-countries B. 3. fine I hartily wish sayth D. Sarauia that there may be a general Councel that as it becommeth me I refuse not to be iudged of my Iudgement But if otherwise c. Let vs expect the Iudgement of God And another Protestant Writer testifyeth of himself and of his other Brethren that (20) Authour of Cath. Traditions p. 57. And see Hospin Concord Discord fol. 186. The learned and greatest men among them do protest to submit themselues to a general and free Councel In like sort D. Sutclif auoucheth in behalf of Protestants in general that (21) Reuievv of Kellisons Suruey p 42. It is false that Protestants wil admit no Iudge but Scriptures For we appeale sayth he stil to a lawful general Councel c. And In the meane time we content ourselues with National Councels and their Determinations As also (22) Ib p. 102. Priuate men do submit themselues to the Determination of a free general Councel and in the meane while to their National Churches Lastly the authoritie of general Councels is so great and the scandal in contemning them so offensiue that a Protestant Writer ingenuously confesseth that (23) Cath. Traditions p. 58. A man can not now adayes read the writings of the ancient Fathers nor the Histories of the Apostolick Churches no not the holie Scripture it self without finding verie manie ceremonies and fashions of speaking not vsed among the Protestants of France from whence it hapneth that manie do change their beleef being offended at the contemning of Councels c. From al which I wil briefly conclude that seing by the free testimonies of so manie of the learned Protestants both strāgers and neighbours General Councels do truly represent the Church of Christ and are the surest meanes for the deciding of Ecclesiastical Controuersies being therin directed and inspired by the Holie-Ghost himself and so freed from errour in the decrees of Faith and manners And seing also for these strongest Reasons Protestants pretend to submit themselues their writings and their doubts finally also to their Determination that therfore for the decision of Controuersies in Religion Catholiks and so manie learned Protestants do ioyntly agree herein That the Authoritie of Oecumenical Councels is sacred infallible and most powerful and for such acknowledged and respected by the humble submission thereto of either Partie THAT THE ARGVMENT DRAVVNE FROM the Authoritie of the Primitiue Church of Christ and of her Doctours Pastours is an Argument of force And for such approued by sundrie learned Protestants CHAPTER II. THere is
no period or difference of time wherin the Church of Christ hath more gloriously shined either for puritie of Faith or Sanctitie of life then during the time of her primitiue being which according to the accompt (1) Ievvel in his Sermon at Paules Crosse And in his Reply p. 1. Humfrey in vita Iuelli p. 123. 124. VvitaKer Resp ad Ranones Campiani p. 90. of the learnedst ProtestaÌ„ts extended itself to the ful tearme of the first six hundred years after Christ our Sauiour his glorious Ascension In greatest confidence wherof D. Iewel whom M. Mason (2) Consecration of English Bish. p. 267 styleth and esteemeth a Iewel made his so aduenturous a Challenge when he publickly exclaimed at Pauls Crosse O Gregorie O Austin O Hierom O Chrysostom O Leo O Denis O Anaclet O Calixt O Paul O Christ If we be deceaued you haue deceaued vs this you taught vs c. And As I sayd before so I say now againe I am content to yeald and subscribe if anie of our learned Aduersaries or if al the learned men that be aliue be able to bring anie one sufficient Sentence out of anie old Catholick Doctour or Father or out of anie old General Councel c. for the space of 600. yeares after Christ which maketh agaynst anie one of 27. Articles by him there repeated and defended And this he protested to preach not as carryed away with the heate of Zeale but as moued with the simple truth This proffer of D. Iewel was so pleasing to D. Whitaker that he most valiantly renewed it in behalf of al Protestants (3) Resp ad Rat. CaÌ„p p. 90. And see p. 9. saying to our glorious Martyr Campian Attend Campian the speach of Iewel was most true and constant when prouoking you to the Antiquitie of the first six hundred years he offered that if you could shew but anie one cleare and playne Saying out of anie one Father or Councel he would grant you the victorie It is the offer of vs al The same do we al promise and we wil performe it With like courage steppeth forth (4) Of the Church l. 5. in his Appendix therto Part. 1. p. 33. D. Field We say sayth he with Bishop Iewel in his worthie Challenge that al the learned Papists in the world can not proue that either Gregorie or Austin held anie of these twentie seauen Articles of Popish Religion mentioned by him Neither wil D. Morton yeald a foot herein stoutly auouching that (5) Prot. Appeal p. 354. It hath been the common and constant profession of al Protestants to stand vnto the Iudgement of Antiquitie for the continuance of the first foure hundred years and more in al things Yea he further publickly professeth that (6) Protest Appeale p. 573. 574. Protestants in oppugning Doctrines which they cal new and not Catholick c. are so far from suffring the limitation of the first 440. years that they giue the Romanists the scope of the first fiue hundred or six hundred years as our Aduersaries themselues do acknowledge For D. Stapleton writing of the opinion of Luther Caluin and Melancthon sayth that they did yeald vnto the tryal of truth by the testimonie of Antiquitie for the space of the first Fiue or Six hundred yeares M. Campian a Iesuit reporting the Challenge of Bishop Iewel for the mayntenance of these Articles which he then propounded for Catholik sayth that he appealed vnto the Iudgement of Antiquitie for the first six hundred years And againe (7) Ibid. p. 512 Protestants in the disquisition of truth do not absolutely bound the name of Antiquitie within the compasse of the first Centurie of years but are content to allow it a longer extent and therfore in al Doctrines which are truly Catholick c. they refuse not to be tryed by the testimonies of the ancient Fathers in the first fiue hundred years after Christ Yea (8) Ib. p. 680. we repose our securitie in those two impregnable fortresses of the Catholick Faith one is the ancient Tradition of the Primitiue Church as the Protestants are confessed to professe c. So willingly do the learned Protestants prouoke and appeale to the Primitiue Church of Christ for the certayne tryal of truth in matters of Faith and Religion Al which they pretend to do because as Luther sayth (9) Tom. 2. Germ. f. 243. Epist ad Marchionem Branâ—eburg It is dangerous and horrible to heare or beleeue anie thing which is contrarie to the vnanimous testimonie of Faith and to the doctrine of the holie and Catholick Church which she from the beginning agreably kept for aboue One thousand fiue hundred years And as Chemnitius truly obserueth (10) Exam. par 1. f. 74. No man doubteth but the Primitiue Church receaued from the Apostles and Apostolical men not only the Text of Scripture but also the right and natiue sense therof wherupon sayth he (11) Ibid. p. 64. we are greatly confirmed in the true and sound sense of Scripture by testimonie of the ancient Church Which according also to other Protestants (12) Harmonie of Confess p. 400. Is the true and best Mistresse of Posteritie and going before lâ—adeth vs the way Yea sayth D. Beard (13) Retractiue from Romish ReligioÌ„ p. 372 without al question al truth was taught by the Apostles to the Primitiue Church and no part therof was left vnreuealed c. Besides it is as certayn that that Church which next succeeded the Apostles was the most pure and absolute Church whether for doctrine or manners matter or forme that euer was in the world and therefore to degenerate from that must needs be to degenerate from the puritie and sanctitie of Religion And againe it can not be denyed that c. though the Primitiue Age of the Church after the Apostles was most pestered with Hereticks yet euermore the truth preuayled both in regard of birthright and predominance D. Morton Declareth that (14) Protestant Appeale p. 513. In the maine question of discerning the true bookes of holie Writ the Protestants do appeale c. vnto the IudgemeÌ„t of the Primitiue Church attributing vnto it the right and Authoritie of assigning and determining what is the perfect Canon of Scriptures With whom agreeth Chemnitius saying (15) Exam. part 1. p. 69. Andradius affirmeth that the testimonie of the Church is either alwayes to be reiected or alwayes to be receaued I answer c. where the Fathers set downe this Tradition of the books of Scripture they proue it by testimonies of the Primitiue Church if with the same course of certayntie they shal do the like of other Traditions wherof sometimes they make mention it is to be respected and they are to be receaued by the same law D. Sarauia confirmeth the authoritie of the Primitiue Church from her special assistance by the Holie-Ghost saying The (16) De diuersis Ministrorum Gradibus p. 8. Holie-Ghost who gouerneth the Church is the best interpreter
of Scriptures from him therfore is the true interpretation to be sought and seing he can not be contrarie to himself who ruled the Primitiue Church and gouerned it by Bishops it is not agreable to truth now to cast them off D. Iewel acknowledgeth in general that (17) Def. of the Apologie p. 35. The Primitiue Church which was vnder the Apostles and Martyrs hath euermore been accounted the purest of al others without exception D. White testifieth that (18) way to the Church Ep. Dedic nu 8 The Primitiue Church and al the Doctours therof would neuer yeald I wil not say in an opinion but not so much as in a forme of speach or in the change of a letter sounding against the Orthodoxal Faith wherof he further giueth sundrie pertinent examples concluding that So religious were they that had Religion that they would not exchange a letter or a Syllable of the Faith wherwith our Sauiour had put them in trust And in another place he auoucheth that (19) Ibid. p. 385. In the first six hundred yeares there was no substantial or fundamental innouation receiued into the Church So plentifully are the deseruedst prayses of the Primitiue Church during the first six hundred yeares freely giuen and set forth by our greatest Protestants thus much acknowledging and admiring the puritie of her Doctrine and appealing to her Tribunal for the Determination of their doubts And I can not but here admire the potent force violence of truth which racketh from her deadliest Enemies the true Confession thereof For what Church during those primitiue and purest times was euen in the iudgement of Protestants so faithful so chast so constant in soundnes of Faith and sinceritie of manners as the Catholick Roman Church What Bishops euer so renowned either for feeding of their flocks or for patient suffring of so manie and so cruel torments yea and death it self as the Popes and Bishops of Rome (20) Ep. Ded. of F. Persons in his Ansvv to him Doth not Sir Ed. Cooke himself say We do not deny but that Rome was the Mother Church and had thirtie two Virginal Martyrs of her Popes arow What Doctours what Fathers what Pastours more duly honoured by al Posteritie then such as were strictly linked in Faith and Communion with the then Roman Church D. Whitaker being to answer D. Sanders his truest assertion that the Roman Church was not changed during the first six hundred yeares after Christ through clearest euidence of truth acknowledgeth the same saying (21) l. De Antichrist p. 35. c. During al that time the Church was pure and flourishing and inuiolably taught and defended the Faith deliuered from the Apostles D. Iewel confesseth that (22) Reply to Harding p. 246. Aswel S. Austin as also other godlie Fathers rightly yealded Reuerence to the Sea of Rome c. for the puritie of Religion which was there preserued along time without spot And that The Godlie Fathers of those gray-headed times sought to the Church of Rome which then for puritie in Religion and constancie in the same was most famous aboue al others Sundrie other such like testimonies duely dignifying the ancient Roman Church I willingly pretermit hauing treated elsewhere of the same subiect more at large But who likewise more peremptorily pretend the truest harmonie between their Doctrine and the Doctrine of the ancient Fathers as also the iust defence and patronage of their due credit and esteeme then our Moderne Protestants For to omit D. Iewels former complaint that if Protestants be deceaued it was Gregorie Austin Hierom Chrysostom c. that deceaued them not anie one Sentence in anie one Father or Councel of the first six hundred yeares making in his opinion against Protestancie D. Sutcliffe confidently auoucheth that (23) Examination of Kellisons Suruey p. 17. The Fathers in al poynts of Faith are for vs sayth he and not for the Pope D. Willet maketh his solemne Protestation (24) Antilog p. 263. I take God to witnes before whom I must render accompt c. that the same Faith and Religion which I defend is taught and confirmed in the more Substantial Points by those Histories Councels and Fathers that liued within fiue or six hundred yeares after Christ. And againe (25) Ib. p. 264. It is most notoriously euident that for the grossest poynts of Poperie as Transubstantiation Sacrifice of the Masse Worshipping of Images Iustification by workes the Supremacie of the Pope Prohibition of Mariage and such other they to wit the Papists haue no shew at al of anie euidence from the Fathers within fiue hundred yeares after Christ. Pierre de Moulin a French Protestāt is so vndertaking herein that (26) Defenc. against Coefteau p. 139. In this Challenge sayth he I wil lay downe my Ministers cloake readie to be frocked in a Monks Cowle if I shal find a man that wil satisfy me in this point Melancthon sayth (27) Ep. ad Cratonem for the setling of our minds I think the consent of Antiquitie to be of great force c. The best Maisters and guides to vs may be Ireneus Tertullian Augustin who left to Posteritie manie things of this kind And (28) Epist. ad Frider. Miconium As I willingly aduise with such writers liuing as haue some vse of Spiritual things So I think these Ancients whose writings are approued are likewise to be consulted For I think the Church generally beleeued that which they haue writen And it is not secure to depart from the common opinion of the old Church Yea others tearme it in some of their Brethren Paradoxical to disclayme and dissent from the ancient Fathers wherof one sayth (29) The Authour of a Brief Answ to certaine obiect ag the Descension of christ into Hel. p 1. where you say we must build our Faith on the Word of Faith tying vs to Scripture only you giue iust occasion to think that you neither haue the ancient Fathers of Christs Church nor their Sonnes succeding them agreeing with you in this point which implyeth a defence of some strange Paradox D. Bancroft doubteth not to preferre the ancient Fathers before the learnedst Protestants (30) Suruey p. 378. p. 64. For M. Caluin and M. Beza I do think of them sayth he as their writings deserue but yet I think better of the ancient Fathers I must confesse it Yea he purposely vndertaketh their iust defence against the Puritans for where S. Austin sayd to Iulian the Pelagian (31) Contra Iulian. l. 2. c. 10 Truly I haue what to do I haue whither to fly for I may prouoke from these Pelagian darknes to these so cleare Catholick Lights of the Fathers which I now do But tel me what wilt thou do whither wilt thou fly I from the Pelagians to these thou from these to whom c. But thou darest cal them blind And hath time so confounded lowest things with highest Are darknes called light and light darknes
forsayd time from the Apostles to Luther The Proof whereof for these last thousand yeares is so easie obuious as that (1) Reioynder to Bristovv p. 341. D. Fulk plainly teacheth that the Reuelation of Anti-Christ vvith the Protestant Churches flight into vvildernes was Anno 607. And [2.] Catalogue of Doctours in the ep to the Reader Simon de Voyon affirmeth that Anno 605. vvhen Pope Boniface vvas sealled in the Papal throne then falsehood got the victorie c. then was that vniuersal Apostasie from the Faith foretold by Paule (3) Hist. Sacram. l. 2. p. 157. Hospinian assureth vs that in the Age of Gregorie the Great al kind of superstition and Idolatrie as a sea ouerflovved ouervvhelmed and vvholy ouerdrovvned almost the vvhole Christian vvorld no man not only not resisting but al rather adding and affording vvhat strength they could So cleare it is that in the verie time of S. Gregorie no one Protestant was known to the Christian world and much lesse was seene to resist or hinder the swelling sea of Roman Religion But to proceed [4] Expositio of the Creed p. 307. M. Parkins auoucheth that during the space of 900. yeares the Popish Heresie for so do Hereticks stile it hath spread itself ouer the vvhole earth and the faithful seruants of God vvere but as a handful of vvheat in a mountaine of chaffe vvhich can scarse be discerned (5,) Idib p. 400. And againe vve say that for the space of manie hundred yeares an vniuersal Apostasie ouerspred the vvhole face of the earth and that our Prot. Church vvas not then visible to the vvorld but lay hid vnder the chaffe of Poperie M. Bale affirmeth that from the yeare 607. puritie of Heauenlie or Protestāt doctrine [6.] Cent. 1. p. 69. vanished in the Church [7.] Cent. 1. p. 65. And that after Gregorie the First puritie of doctrine perished And that from Phocas the Emperour who liued Anno 602. til the renevving of the Ghospel by Luther the doctrine of Christ vvas for that space among Idiots and in lurking holes [8] In hypotes pos Theolog. l. 3. p. 110. 111. Brumlerus acknowledgeth that the Prot. Church begunne to lie hid An. 800. an vniuersal Apostacie being made Antichrist being placed in the Temple of God the Church fled into the desert and there fed by God for a time times and halfe a time And whereas the true Church cannot consist without true Pastours [9] Tract Theolog. p. 374. and preaching yet M. Caluin confesseth that so for some Ages the Prot. Church was torne and pulled in sunder that she had no true Pastours and that for some Ages the pure preaching of the word vanished away Now if I should demand of Caluin or anie his Followers how the pretended Protestant people of those Ages could possibly beleeue and so be saued if during those Ages they neither had preaching nor Pastours to preach and minister Sacraments I might expect for my best answer the deepest silence But the more I wade herein the lesse do I find anie bottome of the Protestant Churches latencie or not-being For examining the verie time of Luthers first beginning I find it directly cōfessed by [10.] Apologie of the Church of Engl. part 4. c. 4 And his defen of the Apol. p. 426. D. Ievvel that the Protestant Truth vvas vnknovvne at that time and vnheard of when Martin Luther and Vlderick Suinglius first came vnto the Knovvledge and preaching of the Ghospel (11.) In August Cōfess explicat c. 7. de Eccle. p. 137. Miluius argueth thus If there had bene right beleeuers that vvent before Luther in his office c. there had then been no need of a Lutheran reformation [12) De Eccl. p 145. Morgensterne censureth it ridiculous to thinke that in the time before Luther anie had the puritie of doctrine and that Luther should receiue it from them and not they from Luther Considering saith he it is manifest to the whole Christian world that before Luthers time al Churches were ouerwhelmed with more then Cimmerian darkenes ‖13.‖ Liber Apologet. p. 176. Regius being vrged to tel what Congregation or Protestant Clergie Luther found in the world at his reuolt answereth that before Luther there was a Clergie of the true Religion which agreed with Luther in al things But being to answer where this Congregation was then to be found he hath no other help but to confesse that is was not knowne by the Papists neither through the Tyrānie of the Pope could peraduenture be visibly showne A strāge answer that it should be vnknowne to the Papists yet the persecution by the Pope should make it vnknowne as though Fairies inuisible could be persecuted by Papists But he goeth forward saying Therefore when the Iesuites vrge that Luther should shew verae Religionis asseclam Ecclesiam his fellow-Church of the true Religion they wil that Luther demonstrate contradiction in tearmes and that he proue that which is inuisible to be visible So cleare a Contradiction to the truth it is to affirme the Protestant-visibilitie at Luthers first beginning To the former demand the like answere is giuen by (14‖ In Apocal c. 11. p. 283. M. Brightman (*) Contra Bell. contr 2. q. 5. p. 261. saying The Church before Luther was in Gods hidden Vestrie and by (15.‖ Vpon the Reuela p 199. M. Dent affirming that as then Christ had his little flock in the wildernes and by D. (16) Tom. Vvittemb in praefat see Tom. 2. Vvitēb fol. 63 Tom. 3. fol. 555. Whitaker teaching that the Church then lay hid in the wildernes But none acknowledgeth this truth more plainly then Luther himself saying At the first I was alone And I dare glory that Christ was made first knowne by me but with the denial hereof Suinglius doth dishonour me Yea (18) Loc. com class 5. c. 15. p. 50. speaking of the Sacramentaries he glorieth and sayth without vs and before vs they were nothing truly they durst not mutter now puffed vp with our victorie they bend their force against vs. And in this regard (17) In praefat in corpus doctrinae Lypsiae 1561. Epist ad Argentinēses (19) Ep. ad Episcop Hereford praefix Enarrat Euceri in Euang and see his scripta Anglicana p. 675 Bucer tearmeth Luther the first Apostle to vs of the purer Ghospel Yea (20) Epist 141 p. 273. Caluin speaking of the same times sayth Seing we are compelled to make a departure from the whole world it is absurd one to disagree with another So clearly was the Protestant Religion as then dissenting from the Religion of the whole world In like ful manner sayth (21) Epist. Iesuit part alt p. 49. Cannerus The poyson of the Arrians infected not some litle part but almost the whole world c. we are come vnto those times which euen exceed the confusion of the Arrian furie Errour hath possessed not
true Church then which what can be vrged more material either in our defence or more disgraceful against al Protestants But the truth hereof is so palpable as that the learnedst Protestants in colour and excuse of their Church not departing out of the knowne visible Church do chiefly vrge and pretend their owne communion with the Roman Church in al Ages whatsoeuer So M. Bunnie verie wisely teacheth that 27) Treat to pacific see 18. p. 108. Of departing from the Church there ought to be no question at al amongst vs c. we 28) Ib. p. 113. are no seueral Church from them nor they from vs and therefore there is no departing at al out of the Church for anie to depart from them to vs nor from vs to them Al the difference between vs is concerning the truer members whether we or they may be found more worthie of that account As for the other we allow no such question In so much that he affirmeth that 29) Ib. p. 109. it was il done of them who first vrged such a separation coÌ„fessing further our aduantage 30) Sec. 15. p. 92. giuen therby for that 31) â—b p. 96. sayth he it is great probabilitie with them that so we make ourselues answerable for to finde out a distinct and seueral Church from them which continued from the Apostles Age to this present else that needs we must acknowledge that our Church is sprong vp of late or since theirs So earnestly doth he labour his Churches not Departing from the Roman Church and thereby supposeth the Roman Churches neuer departing from anie other for if the Roman Church had euer departed her self then were it no proofe but rather a conuiction of the Protestant Churches most certaine departure But insteed of al such pretended departure D. Field acknowledgeth further That 32) Of the Church p. 88. the Roman Church held stil Communion with those other Churches which neuer fel into errour and so were both of one Communion Which euidently proueth she neuer went out of the true Church but stil preserued Communion and Societie with her So euident it is that our Roman Church is freed from that infamous Marke of Heresie of Going out of the Church which yet Protestants haue so cleerly done going out of our Roman Church and that our honour and their infamie therin is proclaymed to the world by men condemned thereby euen by Luther Caluin Osiander Pantaleon Clapham Alison Mason Fox Rainolds Iewel Fulk Sutclif Knewstubs Powel Bunnie and Field But to giue M. D. Morton yet another scantling whether Catholicks or Protestants be truly Hereticks It is a supposed principle taught by S. Hierome 33) Ad Ctesiphont and Vincent Lyri cont haereses c. 4. That to reduce an Heresie to it beginning is a confuting of it Thus S. Ireneus refuted the Valentinians and Marcionists saying 34) L. 3. c. 4. Before Valentine there were not anie which are from Valentine neither before Marcion were they which are from Marcion And D. Whitaker auoucheth That 35) Cont. Duraeum l. 7. p. 479. no man denyeth but that it much auayleth to the confuting of Heresies to haue knowne their beginning In like sort D. Fotherbie in behalf of the Crosse argueth thus If 36) Answ to obiect against the Crosse in Bap. p. 26. it be but an humane inuention let vs know I pray you the first Inuentour of it and when it was first decreed and how it came so soone to be so generally obserued which if you cannot shew vs I think we may with greater probabilitie esteeme it to be an Apostoltcal Tradition D. Sarauia sayth vpon an other occasion 37) In def Tract de diuers minist Grad c. 23. p. 361. I answer it is not enough to say so but it must be shewed out of Histories which were those schismes and where and when they sprong vp and how from thence so general a custome came Agreably writeth M. Bel 38) RegimeÌ„t of the Church p. 26. 27. If anie man deny this old custome let that man shew when it came in And D. Iewel vrgeth D. Harding concerning an errour of former times alleaged by him 39) Reply p. 112. If there had been anie shew of truth in it M. Harding would haue layd out al the Circumstances when this strange errour first began where and how long it continued who wrot against it c Verily this great silence declareth some want D. Bilson sayth (a) Suruey of Christs suffâ—ings p. 660. The report of Eusebius proueth this clause of Christs descending to Hades to haue been anciently and openly professed in the primitiue Church otherwise the Religious of those Ages that liued with and after Eusebius if he had broached anie new point of Faith as in dutie they were bound so no doubt they would haue refuted and resisted them D. Whiteguift defending Cathedral Churches against M. Cartwright demandeth accordingly of him 40) Denfen p. 747. From what Pope they came or in what time they were first inuented Yea he further teacheth 41) Ibid. p. 351. That as for so much as the original and begining of these names Metropolitan Archibishop c. such is their antiquitie cannot be found so farre as I haue read it is to be supposed they haue their original from the Apostles themselues for as I remember S. Austin hath this Rule in his 118 Epistle And 42) Ibid. p 352. It is of credit with the writers of our time namely with M. Zuinglius M. Caluin and M. Gualter and surely I think no learned man doth dissent from them Lastly sayth D. Morton (a) Prot. Appeal p. 465. We willingly ioyne issue and if we cannot proue that the Roman Church hath in manie weightie points of Religion degenerated from herself then shal we no more decline from her as from a malignant stepdame but deuoutly yeeld vnto her al due acknowledgement as vnto a Mother-church And now to ioyne issue herein with M. Doctour and so to square hereby the truth of Roman or Protestant Religion Our Catholicke Faith is so confessedly free from anie knowne beginning since the Apostles and so wholy agreable with S. Austins foresayd Rule as that 43) Ib. Thereby in M. Cartwrights opinion a window is open to bring in al Poperie yea 44) Ibid. p. 103. I appeale to the iudgement of al men if this be not to bring in Poperie againe to allow of S. Austins saying So euident it is that Poperie is without anie knowne beginning and consequently no Heresie In like sort M. Powel being prouoked that if 45) Consideration of the Pap sts Supplic p. 43. our Doctrine be errour then to tel vs when it came in who was the Authour of it c. answereth therto directly in our behalf saying We cannot tel by whom or at what time the Enemie did sow it c. Neither indeed do we know who was the Authour of euerie one of your blasphemous epinions
Def. Tract cont Bezam p. 38 And see his Diuers Degrees of Ministers p. 7. And Fenner in his sacra Theol p. 119 also teacheth that That vocation which is immediatly from God is neuer read to be made without some external and visible signe and vision (105) Disp th 23 p. 207 Sigwartus auoucheth that This vocation hath alwâ—yes certaine and extraordinarie guifts attending it which are as it were the Seales of Doctrine c. of which sort were Miracles c. (106) Part. Theol. l. 1. p. 308 Polanus auerreth that of Ministers extraordinarily called there were also extraordinarie guifts to wit of Prophecie of working Miracles c. (107) Loc. com p. 394. Musculus assureth vs that The calling which is immediatly from God is not now in vse as it was in times past it had its signes whereby it might be knowne wherof Mark the Euangelist maketh mention in his last Chapter saying They preached c. with Signes following And M. Clapham (108) Soueraign Remedy c. p 25. vpon the same ground reprehendeth Browne for that he did take vpon him extraordinarie calling and wonted Miracles M. Parkins (109) Vol 3 part 2. p. 395. 441. And Luther in Dâ—uteron in t. 13 fol 102 Aretius loc com loc 63. p. 198. Melancthon in Christ doct p. 884. Clapham in Chro. c. 7. f. L. 2. Maior in ep 1. ad Tim. in c. 3. fol. 177. confesseth that We may iustly require more and more wonderful Signes of an extraordinarie calling afore we beleeue it c. The Church in these dayes hath much more cause to doubt and to require manie and extraordinarie signes afore it acknowledge anie such extraordinarie calling c. So that our Protestant Clergie challenging vnto themselues extraordinarie Calling thereby do oblige themselues to proue the same by extraordinarie Signes and Miracles But to the contrarie it is most certaine that not anie Minister no nor other Protestant in the world euer wrought anie Miracle And so also is it coÌ„fessed by Sir Edward Hobbie saying (110) Letter to Higgons p. 102 And Tinleyes 2. Serm. p 66. Wotton in his Tryal of the Romish Clerg p. 355 We are not ashamed to confesse that we haue no other Miracles then those which were wrought by Christ the Prophets and Apostles But Sir Edward may then be much ashamed of his painted Ministers who only pretend for themselues extraordinarie Calling which as before must euer haue Miracles annexed Agreably hereunto writeth M. Mason saying (111) Consecrat of Engl Bish. p 11. We teach the same doctrine for substance which Moses and the Prophets Christ and his Apostles both taught and confirmed by Miracles And in this sense al the Miracles of Moses and the Prophets Christ and his Apostles are ours c. But if the question be concerning our Persons then we confesse that we can work no Miracles we take no such matter vpon vs neither is it necessarie because both our Calling and Doctrine are ordinarie So flatly doth he disclayme from al Protestants Miracles or extraordinarie Calling In like sort acknowledged D. Sutcliffe (112) Examination of Kellisons Suruey p. 8. Neither do we Ministers practise Miracles nor do we teach that the doctrine of truth is to be confirmed with Miracles D. Fulk (113) Ag Rhem. Te. in Apoc. c. 13. fol. 478. confesseth that It is knowne that Caluin and the rest whom the Papists cal Arch-hereticks do work no Miracles And as concerning Luther himself whom al pretend to be most extraordinarily called (114) Admonitio de libro Concordiae p. 202. 203. the Protestants of the Count Palatine do expresly say of him We haue not heard anie miracle which he hath done Yea himself (115) Tom. 4. in Esay c 35. fol. 157. endeauouring to answer this strongest argument made against him is enforced to confesse and say They laugh at vs and obiect that not so much as a lame horse hath been cured by Lutherans and that we are altogeather destitute of the guift of Miracles But it is written The impious seeth not the glorie of God and now reporteth he his Miracles for as now the blind do see when they are reduced to the knowledge of Christ c. the deafe heare the Ghospel the lame who sate in Superstition and the Idolatrous go wel and walk with pleasant Faith c. whom do not these Miracles moue c. for they are no lesse then to raise the dead or to giue sight So that the greatest Miracle that Luther wrought was to make for exaÌ„ple Catharine Bore to see the libertie and pleasure of his new Ghospel she being before blinded with the austeritie and Mortification of a Religious Nunne and to make her heare his lasciuious scurril discourses being before deafe to al speeches but such as tended to Charitie and deuotion lastly to make her walke with pleasant faith from her Monasterie to the Tauerne being before mured within the walles of her Nunnerie which are Miracles ordinarily wrought by anie Heretick whosoeuer Besides these blind deafe lame whom Luther did so miraculously cure by reducing them to the knowledg of Christ were those who were indeed already Christians whom he seduced by his greatest libertie offred from their ancient Faith for as for his Conuersion of one Heathen Pagan or Idolater from Infidelitie to the Christian Faith no Instance can be giuen as shal be shewed at large in the Chapter subsequent Besides it is the certaine and true Doctrine euen of sundrie Protestants that as [116) Vol. 1. Thesien Theol. loc 23 p. 364. Bale Examen Recitationum p. 386. Lubbertus de Principijs Christ Dogm p. 562. Pol. Part. Theol. l. 1. p. 308. Beamlerus Hypost Theol l. 3. fol. 109. Piscator saith whom God calleth by himself immediatly those he is accustomed to furnish with singular guifts that it may appeare they are sent from God And these only haue testimonie that they can not erre in Doctrine Now it is euideÌ„t and for such at large acknowledged by Protestants that Luther beleeued and taught sundrie (117) See this at large in the Prot. Apology Tract 2. c. 2 Sec. 10. Subd 2. 3. 4. 5. 7. 8. grosse and most dangerous errours and Heresies as that the Apocalypse the Epistles to the Hebrewes and of S. Iames are not Canonical That Faith vnles it be without euen the least good words doth not iustify nay is no Faith and that nothing sinneth but vnbelief and that Good works are hurtful to Saluation That The Husband if the wife wil not may take the mayde and may haue ten or more wiues at once That the Lay-people may preach Baptise Consecrate and minister the B. Sacrament that the Diuinitie of Christ did suffer c. with sundrie such like ouer tedious to recite But here by the way I cannot omit the strange Encomium giuen of Luther by D. Morton in these words (118) Protest Appeale p. 615. This is our Aduersaries guise whensoeuer they
Pudding Pye Being indeed no other but a mere Tergiuersation and idle Battologie of distracted perplexed and obstinate men not willing to yeeld or acknowledge the truth and yet not able a deny the certaintie therof Much agreable to that instabilitie and doubtfulnes which (31) Instit c. de fide p 148. And his like perplexed Sayings see Inst l. 4. c. 2. sec 11. 12. Caluin in the same matter expresseth in other words professing Neither simply to grant nor plainly to deny our Catholick Church to be the Church of God And yet such Confidence is placed in this extremest Refuge that in M. Parkins (32) Reform Cath. p 329. Whitak de Eccl. p. 165. Beza in Ep. Theol. ep 1. p. 15. Calu. lib. Epist ep 104 p. 222. his opinion it wil serue to stop the mouths of Papists who demand of vs where our Church was fourscore yeares before Luther For sayth he hereby They are answered that our Church hath been since the dayes of the Apostles and that in the verie midst of the Papacie But to omit that hereby is plainly granted and supposed that Papacie or the Roman Religion hath euer been since the dayes of the Apostles I wil now lay open this last receptacle wherinto our Enemies do so confidently retire And first when they say their Church was in the Papacie since the Apostles dayes they either meane that their Church continued in Popish Countries amongst the Papists without al external Communion with them in Church or Sacraments euen as Catholicks doe at this day in England Scotland Holland Turkie c. Or els that their Church was in the Papacie because she did Communicate with the Papists Church in al external offices Seruice and Sacraments thereof not being in anie external respect to be discerned from the Papists only reseruing in their inmost thoughts and secret Consciences the Faith of Protestants If they intend the first then had it been more congruously sayd that their Church was without the Papacie or neer to the Papacie or among the Papists or in Popish Countries but at no hand in the Papacie that implying the verie Faith and Religion of the Papists no more then a Catholick can endure to heare that the Roman Church or Religion is in the Protestancie Puritanisme Turcisme or the like Besides if the Protestant Church had been thus stil in Popish Countries with external Recusancie of al Popish Seruice Sacraments then we vrge againe as before for some one testimonie proofe or but shadow therof from anie one Writer Record or Monument of al those former Ages but herein they are most silent through their knowne confessed want of al such helpes And therefore they betake themselues to the second meaning of their Church being in the Papacie that is not being only in Popish Countries but in al external Communion and Profession either of Seruice Sacraments or other matters of Faith and Religion being and shewing itself only Papistical Agreably hereunto M. Parkins expounded himself saying (33) Reform Cath. p 328. The true Church hath been in the Roman Church as Corne in the heape of Chaffe And not seuered each from other in outward profession (34) Ib. p. 329. but mixed togeather for external societie like Chaffe and corne in one heape In which sense Osiander so great an Enemie of our Catholick Church that by no meanes (35) Epit. Hist Eccl. Ep. Dedic Cent. 6. p. 290. Cent. 7. 331 he wil acknowledge it for a true Church yet affirmeth that (36) Ep. Dedic Cent. 8. p. 2. In those darkned times the true Church was vnder the Papacie And that so that though (37) Cent. 16. part alt p. 1076. some godlie men inwardly disliked the Popish errours and Idolatrous Sacrifices yet they durst not alwayes openly professe the same (38) Ibid. 1072. Neither durst they freely professe their owne opinions except they would be burned or at least banished Yea these so godlie men sayth he (39) Cent. 8. Ep. Ded p 3. though they gaue not their mind to these Popish Idolatries yet they did not altogeather neglect the external rites and with a common custome as with a violent Streame they were carried away to do the same things with the Papists Many through feare of the Popish Tyrannie not daring to professe that they disliked the Popish worships whose infirmitie God tollerated and pardoned And so sayth he they communicated with the Popish Church in (40) Cent. 16 p. 1073. Cent 8. Ep Ded p 2. Ministerie of the Ghospel or the Word in the Bible in Baptisme in the Lords supper in taking Orders c. such saith he as those times did affoard c. And so thereby were most euidently no other then plaine Papists in al external Profession And according to this D. White also confesseth that these godlie men did not (41) Way to the Church p. 371. alwayes abandon the Communion of the Roman Church c. the Tyrannie of Rome suppressed them so that they could not manifest abroad to the world their dislike c. but by force and violence were constrayned to deuoure their owne Sorrow in the societie of their Aduersaries This external societie of Protestants with Papists in matters of Religion is further granted by the Protestant Molitor (42) Disquisitiones de Eccl. c. p. 114. who writing hereof sayth We affirme the Church in former Ages to haue layne hid in the midst of the Papistrie as in Caues neither durst it through the abominable Tyrannie of the Sonne of Perdition come forth to light Euen as yet to this day many faithful are in the midst of the Romish Babylon who lye hid there as in a Prison and for feare of danger dare not publickly professe the name of Christianitie So that the verie true and last resolued sense of the Protestant Churches being in the Papacie euer since the dayes of the Apostles importeth no more but that in the secretest corners of their harts they beleeued Protestancie and in al external Communion societie and conuersation they liued and dyed Roman Papists But if men had long studied for an answer most foolish and wicked what more apt then this For first no instance or proofe doe they or can they produce whereby to proue these external Papists to haue been indeed internal Protestants this being only a fiction or Imagination of their owne deuoyd of al testimonie Record or probabilitie whatsoeuer Secondly supposing it to be true doth it import or conclude anie lesse but that the sayd Imagined Church of Protestants in this sort being in the Papacie was a most dissembling and adulterous Church publickly denying in word and deed that verie Faith and Religion which inwardly it beleeued only to be true and committing and practising both in life and death manie foule supposed Superstitions and Idolatries with the Popish Church which they firmely beleeued to be most wicked and damnable And is it possible that an hypocritical Church is the Church of