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A44785	Darknesse and ignorance Expelled by the light shining forth, and the appearance of the day. In answer to a book called, Innocents no saints. Published by one Edward Dodd, wherein he hath laboured to prove tythes lawfull, and tithing priests and hirelings to be the ministers of the word, and the masse-house the church; and calls idolatry civility, and heathenish complements courtesie, and hath perverted many Scriptures. His deceit laid open, his vindication made void, and his arguments confounded, and Truth laid open in all these particulars, for the sake of the upright in heart, who rejoyces in Truths prosperity. By one of the lambs followers, who makes warre against the heart of the dragon, and against the rear of the beast. F.H.	Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.	1659 (1659)	Wing H3156; ESTC R215412	21,256	31

as thou calls it metamorphize them into another shape witnesse the many publique Teachers and Parish-masters and tithing Priests in the dayes of Edward the sixth Henry the 8. Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeths dayes and now of late in the Bishops dayes when the Magistrates voted down the Bishops all or most of the Priests denied their Fathers and their institution and though they ordained them Ministers yet they denied them and now are got into their seats and Benefices and there thy Reader may see the metamorphosed changelings and the apostates and I do believe the County of Salop abounds with such like and they have been on the Stage long and have acted such a part in every generation as would please the present Authority or power whether they were Papists or Protestants Prelaticall or whatsoever but F. D the Exit will come and when the day appears the beasts must go into ●heir dens again and thou confesseth you live in apostatizing times thou that art among the Apostates and in the apostatizing age and time would accuse others Nay thou must hold thy peace and leave pleading for Apostates and for the fashions of the heathen which hath got up since the dayes of the apostacy which the whole scope of thy Book is full of nothing else and we cannot permit or allow them who are in the time of apostacy and who are one with the Apostates which have wandered after the Beast since the dayes of the Apostles I say we cannot allow such as you to be Judges for we are come out of the apostacy and to before the Apostates and to before the wandering Stars and thou hast mist it much that tells the Quakers are they Edward I tell thee we are come to the everlasting Gospell again and have received it and it 's the power of God which was to be and is to be preached again to the Nations after the apostacy And as for the Book called Malice stript whipt I have seen it and the spirit of thy Mr. Smith whom thou calls Reverend thou hast elevated him as high as the Pope but E. D. what is the reason thou reverencest him so much as thou doth to thy Reader And in the tenth page thou saist many souls depend upon his Ministery and thou blessest God for the worke of God you enjoy in that Congregation Thou hast extol'd him too highly or else he hath wronged thee grievously for thou saist thou hast profited much by him Thou mayest call to minde a certain time when he preached as you call it out of the 13 of Luke and when he spoke of the parable of the man that planted a Vineyard and 3 years looked for fruit and Sam Smith whom thou so adores said he had sought for fruit from your Congregation this 7 yeares at Cressage and had found none he shall be an evidence for me against thee that thy glorying of him is vain and it 's manifest he is one the Lord sent his Prophet to declare against who hath run and the Lord never sent him therefore he hath not profited you at Cressage at all lean souls are they like to be that depends on him In the first observation as thou calls it thou hast extracted the heads of Samuel Smiths Book into five particulars which thou saist we are ashamed to answer or else know not what to say for our defence I say unto thee boast not when thou putst on thy Armour but when thou putst it off for the victory may be doubtful THe first particular That the Nationall Ministers doth maintain the true worship of God and the Doctrine of Christ according to the revealed will of God Answ. So saying and so doing were something the true worship of God is in spirit and in truth which is not loe here and loe there nor in outward observations but in life in power and in truth But to be brief both the doctrine and practice of the Nationall Ministery in generall is contrary to the Scripture which thou calls the Word of God as for instance their sprinkling of Infants their teaching men to swear and calling it part of the worship of God which is contrary to the doctrine of Christ who said swear not at all Their singing Davids Psalms put into meeter by Poets and Ballad-mongers singing them in their invented tunes which pleaseth the carnall minde Their studied discourses which you call Sermons invented from the strength of naturall wit and not speaking as they are moved by the holy Ghost which the Ministers of Christ in all ages did In these and many other things which I could instance they are out of the Doctrine of Christ And in a word your whole worship differs both in matter and manner from the Saints worship in the primitive times But seeing we have denyed the Nationall Ministers divers years ago and have laid down our grounds and reasons to the world wherein we have charged them that their practice is contrary to Scripture unto which grounds and reasons not one Parish-master in England hath yet vindicated themselves these sixe years And unto that Book called The Grounds and Reasons why we deny the Priests if the Reader be not satisfied concerning them there he may see how they erre both in Doctrine and practice contrary to Scriptures To the second and third Particular That the present government of the Nation is the Ordinance of God and that the Ministers bringing offenders before the Magistate is not persecution As for the present government of the Nation the lawfulnesse thereof is not in question by us but many who are governours and should be Executors of the Law have acted contrary to Law being stirred up by the Priests who bite with their teeth if one put not into their mouths and hath caused the just to suffer by giving judgement against them in their wills contrary to Law or else according to those Lawes which hath been made in the will of man in the transgression under which we have suffered for the truths sake and therein have peace And as for Ministers bringing offenders before Magistrates that is an usurped authority to make a Minister a Magistrate but Edward what was the offence because a company of people came to Cressage and declared the word of truth in your Streets and what if it had been in your Assembly this was no offence in the Church of Corinth where all might speak one by one although it s become an offence in your Masse-house at Cressage but the Reader may judge in whose steps thou and thy Priest walkes you have done the offence and then accuseth others to the Magistrates as offenders Let shame cover your lips you impudent men Hath not Samuel Smith in his own Narration in his book said that William Parrat Constable and Humphrey Dale Church-warden according to the Ministers direction did pull down the Quakers Speaker charging some to secure him And others also of your own County secured by the instigation of the Priest by

brin● the custome of unbelievers and the practice of unbelievers among the Saints who are believers and follows Christ their example I say we have no such custome nor the Churches of Christ The next piece of deceit thou art pleading for is bowing to one another the knee and titles of honour wherein the Devill hath a great hold among people Gen. 44. 14. This thou bringst to prove bowing Jadah and his brethren came to Josephs house and they fell on the ground This is an example indeed Wilt thou take another the same brethren of Joseph sold him when he was a boy was that a good act If thou say nay I say one is as much commanded and commended as the other for that same that doth violence it 's the same that respects persons but Abtaham bowed to the children of Heth what of that So did Joseph swear by the life of Pharaoh and both Joseph and Abraham were good men but they were never the better for these actions neither the one nor the other But then thou brings a Scripture and thou saith it must stop our mouths Gen 49. 8. 10. And thou saith this may teach us if we be of Jacobs seed and houshold to bow to the God of Jacob our King why should this stop our mouths But the scepter shall not depart from Judah nor a Law-giver from between his feet till Shilo come So he was to rule to wit Judah till Shilo came why should this stop our mouths Shilo is come and hath opened our mouths and the scepter is departed from Judah long since both them that bowed to Iudah and Iudah that was once bowed unto they are both bowed under and Shilo is set above and now he must be bowed unto go learn what that meanes It was answered against bowing the second Commandement prohibits it Thou shalt not bow down to them but the answer satisfies thee not Thou saith Doth this forbid civill respects or idolatrous worship That which thou calls civill respect is idolatrous worship putting off the hat and bowing the knee to a man with a gay Cloak or a gold Ring or a company of Ribbons or a long Gown To bow downe to such because of the attire is respecting of persons and idolatry but you are fallen into a far worse state then respecting of persons for you respect cloaths and doffs your hats and bow your knees to them with fine rayment And let the man in vile rayment or poor attire go by without either cap or knee and for all thy civility thou so greatly pleadest for and courtesie if he put not off his hat to thee it may be thou wilt call him Sirrah Rogue or Clowne for all thy civility Again put on the poor man good attire and a fine Cloak and a gold Ring then you change your note and say If it please your Worship or like your Honour your humble servant Sir Now here is not only respecting of persons which is commission of sin but respecting the creatures and worshipping the array which is upon a mans back which is idolatry and not civility which is to be condemned Yet civility and courtesie I owne which is so in deed and in truth but that which the world calls civility and courtesie is hypocrisie and idolatry And for Salutations thou saith we seldome use and thou bringst Scripture to prove that Christ and the Saints saluted one another Their salutations are owned and such salutations are practised by us in uprightnesse of heart and true love without feignednesse but we cannot do as you do bid a man God-speed when he is not doing the worke of God nor say Farewell to them who are in their evill deeds nor as the world doth with their Good-evens and Good-morrows and takes Gods name in vain and if one do not answer them according to their light vaine mindes they will fall a rayling and beating all such spirits we deny and their salutations In thy second Observation Thou saith Do not we prove that places of Christian Assemblies to be a Church and thou brings many Scriptures to no purpose Thou bringst the 1 of Kings vers. 8. and 1 Cor. 11. For the glory of the Lord shall fill the house of the Lord And thou answerest and saist not the Steeple-house but the Church There thou hast added to the Scripture and divers other Scriptures thou bringest wherein the Temple was called the house of God and the store-houses were called the house of God Mal. 3. 10. All which Scriptures I own but they are nothing to thy purpose that the Temple was called the house of God and the Tabernacle the house of God and the Store-houses the house of God this is granted These were made and builded according to the command of God wherein the Lords treasure was which fed the poor the fatherlesse and the widow and the Priests and Levites that ministred unto him which Temple Priests Store-houses and Tythes were figures and shadows of good thing to come which when the good things did come the figures ended But when did God command your Idols Temples to be built and what are they a figure of That which thou shouldst have proved is that your Steeple-houses where you meet anywhere in Scripture is called the Church of God Thou and thy Master Smith art offended that we call the place you meet in a Steeple-house and saith take heed that no such Language be spoken again as Steeple house Why not Huth not these houses Steeples But we shall call it truly and properly as it is the Masse-house which hath the Crosses standing upon them yet or an Idols Temple which was dedicated for the idolatrous worship and for the Idoll Masse and other superstitious ceremonies your windows full of pictures your walls full of images and Monks faces and bears yet the Popish names as St. Anthony St. Clement St. Dunstans and St. Patrick and St. Maries and the like You blinde men full of ignorance perverters of the Scriptures which would bring the Scripture to prove your idolatrous Masse-house to be a Church and calls it the house of God Temple of God when the first Founder was an Apostate and you who hold it up and calls it a Church are of his brood and are dead stones which worhips in the dead house and knows not what the Church of God is and yet you say to what end should we bring Scripture to prove any thing by to these men take it not into your mouths except you bring it for a better end to make people believe that the Prophets and Apostles when they spoke of the house of God and the Church of God spoke of your Idoll-temple or ever intended or meant your Steeple-house or old Masse-house And thou saith Few of the Ministers in England thou believes henceforth will have any thing to do with us for we are blind leaders of the blinde I believe they see sufficiently they have come to great losse and sees their weapons have not

place Doth not his presence fill heaven and earth Is he divided from his presence But may be thou wilt say as thy generation doth that ●e is in the Earth by his spirit and in Heaven in his body or person distinct from his spirit If so then you divide Christ and a person without a spirit and not Christ I will aske thee a question No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came downe from heaven the Sonne of man which is in heaven Where was the Sonne of man or the man Christ when this was spoken If thou canst see this thou mayst be ashamed to shut Christ out of the Earth or from among his Saints where his presence his arme his hand and his power is which is not divided from his body but I know thou art deafe and canst not heare what I say and thou bringst Heb. 10. 12. After he had offered one sacrifice sate downe at the right hand of God that is sayst thou In his humane nature The shame is come upon thy selfe who have added thy owne imagination and let all see whether the Scripture speak of humane nature but thy folly must be manifest to all Thy third Particular that thou names and as thou sayest shames is If wee say wee are without sinne we deceive our selves Thou hadst better have enquired perfectly whether we said so or no before thou hadst undertook to reprove upon so doubtfull termes and thou bringst Prov. 20. 9. For who can say my heart is clean He can say so and speaks truth whose heart God hath cleansed by the blood of Christ from all sinne And then thou bringst Job 9. 20. If I justifie my selfe my owne mouth shall condemn me That 's true we justifie not our selves neither selfe but denies selfe and selfe is condemned and Christ Gods righteousnesse is become our Justification And then thou bringest Paul Phil. 3. Not as though I had already attained but follow after that I may apprehend What of that he was in his growth and was come to that which was perfect and did believe to attain to the stature of a perfect man And then thou saith I tell you you are not perfect your contempt of the Ministers of Christ and perverting the Doctrine of Christ are Characters of sin That shall stand for thy selfe and thy Masters whom thou art joyned with who sets up Popish trumpery in stead of the Ordinance of Christ and sets up the precepts of men introduced in the apostacy for the doctrine of Christ And then thou concludes the Scripture hath concluded all under sinne all in the first Adam but I hope the Scripture doth not conclude all under sin in the second Adam Neither doth conclude him under sinne that 's borne of God who sins not And if thou make any such conclusion thou gives thy verdict for the Devill and not for God then thou saith I am not pleading for sinne Thou art pleading for nothing else but for sinne and imperfection in which the Devils kingdome stands and thou saith thou hast cause to cry out O wretched man that I am So thou hast indeed hast thou repented of thy drunkennesse How long is it since thou fell off a bridge being drunke and broke thy leg but it is like for thy good service done to thy Master in writing this lying scrole he will give thee an absolution for that transgression The fourth Particular which thou calls our Tenet is That we deny the Scripture to be the Word of God And thou hast brought many Scriptures to prove that they are but they are as impertinent to the thing as thy former about the Steeple-house or Masse-house Thou hast brought many Scriptures Jer. 37. 8. how they are called the words of the Lord who ever denyed that but the Word spoke the words and the Word is greater 2 Tim. 3. 16 All Scripture is given by divine inspiration I deny that some was spoken by the Devill and some by wicked men and I hope thou wilt not call that divine inspiration Then thou may be wilt conclude I deny the words of Paul to Timothy I deny the word Is it is an addition of the Translator which word alters and varies the true sense of that Scripture but all Scripture given by inspiration of God is profitable for doctrine c. But knowest thou no distinction between inspiration and tradition You have it by tradition the Saints by Inspiration It 's a dead letter in it selfe and as it is spoken from your mouthes who speak of it by tradition but from them that were inspired the living Spirit uttered forth living words But what is all this to prove the Scripture or writings to be the Word of God And then thou cites 2 Cor. 4. 7. Not handling the Word deceitfully What doth this prove nothing at all and all the rest that thou hast cited is nothing at all but what we have answered over and over many times wherein all that have any understanding in the knowledge of God are satisfied That which thou shouldst have proved by the Scripture is where the Scripture or writings or Letter doth title it selfe the Word of God It is granted they are the words of God and the words of holy men inspired So in thy owne words I say take thou notice though thou art confident and presumptuous in this thou hast shamed thy selfe and not us The Word was before either Scripture Writings or Bible was which Word is greater and gave them a being And thou that wouldst set that which is brought forth by the Father above the Father art out of the Apostles wisdome speaking a similitude He that builds a house receives more honour then the house Now to call the Scripture the Word is to give as much honour to the house as to him that builded it but in a word this I say what ever the Scripture doth testifie of it selfe or call it selfe that I owne it to be And if any man call it another thing it shall testifie against him and so thou that hast gone about to set up the words which were spoken in time above or equall with the Word that was before all time art ignorant and unskilfull in the knowledge of GOD and silence would better become thee ●n thy last page thou saith How often have wee beene called upon to make known to the world what we hold and what we would have Are you the men raised for this worke alone to cry downe Tythes and speake against Lace Ribbons and Cuffs Is there nothing for us to do Then this declare that this is enough to salvatior I say we have declared more in the world then they do receive or believe and we have published the will of God to the earth in many things and shall further proceed as the Spirit of the Lord shall direct us And that which we would have is the old Dragon chayned and the Whore burnt with fire and her Merchants cease trading and the Sea dried

up upon which she sits and upon which the Merchants trade and the Beast and all the false Prophets Deceivers and Antichrists which have all had their rise since the Ascension of Christ we would have these be all shut in the pit again and we would have the Lamb to reigne and the everlasting Gospell to be preached again the power of God and we would have the Earth restor'd and we would have everlasting righteousnesse to reigne in the hearts of people and Lawes as at the first and Counsellors as in the beginning who iudge not for rewards and Ministers such as were in the Primitive times who will preach without tythes hire and set wages and without the Popes maintenance If thou canst receive these things I will shew thee further it may be hereafter if I heare any more from thee And we are the men that are raysed up for the worke to declare against pride in the ground and also in appearance as against Lace Cuffs and Ribbons And thou askes if there be nothing else Hast thou denyed these and the spirit that leads to the abuse of Gods creatures when thou hast I will sh●w unto thee there is something else to be done but if thou doe not obey that which is manifest why wouldst thou know more to adde to thy condemnation And we do not say that casting off these things is all that is required to salvation thou bids us declare if there be any thing else so I shall so that thou hearken to it and receive it else thy condemnation shall be greater then if I had written nothing Thou must repent of all thy sinne and turn from it and know the judgement of God for it and deny thy selfe in every thing and lay downe thy life also and take up his Crosse daily and be crucified to the world and cease from all thy owne words actions and thoughts and come to taste of death before thou come to know him to live in thee to be thy salvation canst thou do this when thou witnesseth this done then thou shalt know further what God requires but a terrible day will come upon thee before these things be fulfilled in thee though thou be more stout then thy fellowes I know him who is able to break thy horn which thou hast exalted against the Lamb of God and his followers And for thy exhortation Not to seed on husks take it home to thy selfe for thou hast nothing else to feed upon the words of the Saints at best without the life or else some innovated invented trumpery of the Whore of whose Cup thou hast drunke makes thee speak forth all these venomous words against the life and power of God in his people And thou concludes What thou hast written is as much for our Conversion as Refutation Both alike indeed for thou hast done neither but hast conceived and brought forth winde and spent thy time for nought Alas poor man tellst thou of converting who art not come out of the grosse pollutions of the world who art not ceased from drunkennesse and art pleading for Masse-houses Tythes Hirelings and Popish inventions and art offended we should declare against Ribbons Cuffs and Lace what shouldst thou convert any too except to make them two-fold more children of the Devill And what shouldst thou refute or confute Wilt thou say one shall not steal and dost thou Wilt thou say one should not be drunk and art thou And wilt thou say one should forsake all sin and yet say none must be cleansed from it but be alwayes miserable men and wretched men Be first convinced in thy self and turne from thy evill deeds before 〈…〉 more of converting or refuting any For 〈…〉 when all shall be set in order before thee what thou hast done and thou shalt receive according to thy work and thou shalt then see this worke to be for condemnation which thou hast published against the truth which shall and must abide for ever and they that are in it and walk in it shall be everlastingly happy and shall reigne as Kings and Priests unto God for ever and over all deceit and shall live to confound all the children of falshood in all their devices THE END