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A78340	The schismatick sifted through a sive of the largest size: but is now more purely drest. Wherein the chaffe, the froth, and the scumme of Mr. John Vicars his siftings and paintings prove him to be a lame draughts-man, a smearie washer, his colours falsly mixt, and his pencill as course as his colours. Collected out of his own words, and under his own hand. / By T.C. a well-willer to truth and peace. Published according to order.	T. C.	1646 (1646)	Wing C141; Thomason E342_4; ESTC R200928	6,308	15

THE Schismaticke Sifted THROUGH A SIVE of the largest size BUT Is now more purely drest WHEREIN The Chaffe the Froth and the Scumme of Mr. JOHN VICARS his Siftings and Paintings prove him to be a lame Draughts-man a smearie Washer his Colours falsly mixt and his Pencill as course as his Colours Collected out of his own words and under his own hand By T. C. a Well-willer to Truth and Peace For Sions-Sons sake I cannot hold my peace Published according to Order LONDON Printed by R. A. for S. W. 1646. To the impartiall Reader of these few Lines Ingenious Reader IF ever it was a time to speake a few words in behalf of Truth and those that sincerely profess it now is the time when under a fair pretence of honour done to God such a cursed Treatise should be vented which speaks worse language then the Devill for he durst not bring railing accusations but the Author fore-mentioned brings false accusations but the Devill doth all by Gods permission and so doth he His plea is he doth it to stop their mouths and it is to be feared he would stop their breaths also could he obtaine his designe He would have an orderly confusion and yet will not be content therewith unlesse all swim down his streame This his valour for Truth cloathed in so black a habit Truth will never owne My desire is therefore to all that love the truth in sincerity to take notice of this whole Work which is made up of nothing but raiing reviling vilifyings of those godly faithful zealous dissenting Ministers of the Gospell purposely to open the mouthes of the foule-mouth'd multitude against them as also if it were possible to make way for a streame of vengeance fill'd up with malice to overwhelme these faithfull men who are as much interested and ingaged in Englands sad condition as also the other Kingdoms and have expressed as much faithfulnesse towards God and performed all their relations both to Powers and Kingdomes as any Presbyterians whatsoever and therefore as through pride and envie this contention was raised so undoubtedly it will receive a speedy downfall The Schismaticke sifted OR HIS Shifts discovered by way of Reply to Mr. JOHN VICARS Worthy Sir I Have ever much respected your gravity knowing the gray head is an honour when found in the way of righteousnesse and I perswade my selfe you would never have gone so far out of that way as you have done at this time had not your interest out-swayed your judgment Thus to sift out or rather to shift out such a filth and froth of scummie disgrace against those whom God hath preserved abroad and honoured at home for their faithfulnesse insomuch as all the wiles of envy could never yet really produce one unjust act committed by them You add to Sion basenesse instead of beauty and acknowledge truths which you afterward gainsay And now to come to your Charge and had your Witnesses been as ready as that is I had been silent it is a very ridiculous thing to bring in a Charge before the Witnesses are either knowne or borne 1 Pag. 2 3. But say you Many godly Presbyterians dare not think ill of them because they preach sound Doctrine Of whose mind I also am as not derogating from the Rule of Scripture and right Reason But Schismaticks say you Salamander-like love to live in the fiery heat of heady disputes Pag. 3. Shall I grant they would rather dispute it out then raile it out I thinke no wise men will gainsay that disputation But say you Independents spread their false Doctrine by their licentious and unlimited Government Which of the two Independent Congregations or Parochiall in conscience think you are the most licentious should you have the examples given in you would be ashamed to owne the Parallel It would prove a harder task for you to prove sound Doctrine and Sacraments purely administred in your Parishes Pag. 4. then you take it to be where children of near a hundred yeares old may be found with more ease then able selfe-examining men But your judgment is more infallible then Scripture or right Reason should I take your word for what you say O say you Let not this trouble you but stride over this difficulty with me and behold what false doctrines they teach and how they broach their damnable plea for toleration for all Sir For all what all do you meane If by all you meane all of contrary judgments to them that is false But if by all you meane all truths grounded upon Scripture-foundation which is their endeavour I also am of that all But Sir What do you mean by their damnable doctrine is it because they teach not so sound Presbyterian Government as you 2 Your second stumbling-blocke is their piety Pag. 6. which you say causes many to thinke well of them but you remove this as easily as the former and upon as good a ground for say you This is Sathans old cloake with which he covered Arrius Pelagius and Arminius who were men of extraordinary outward holinesse and admirable for their parts But say you The Devill doth not show his hornes and cloven feet at first You might as well have said The Bishops and Popes of Rome did not act all their power at first But where is your Witnesse these men are Arrians and Pelagians either recall your Inference or produce your Witnesse But this is the devills method where he cannot fasten a blemish there he will lay a reproach But say you Pag. 7. holinesse of life is a false touch-stoneto try men by This you prove out of these words of Paul Be yee followers of me as I also am of Christ upon which place saith this learned Expositor follow me no farther then I follow Christ in sound Doctrine and Holinesse First and principally sound Doctrine and then Holinesse to strengthen that Learned Sir doth Paul here set himselfe out as an example or Christ whom he here mentions if Paul meane himselfe then you shall find him a chosen Vessell before he ever preached sound Doctrine but if Christ bee his example then hee was ever perfect in both But you undertake to justifie Pag. 8. That it is more safe and sweet for a soule to love like and to follow and imitate a Pastour sound and Orthodox in Doctrine and Judgement though subject to much weaknesse and humane infirmity then him that seemes to be most exact and strict in his outward walking and conversation if hee premed tatedly against all perswastions and convictions go on in publike profession of Error Sir what doe you meane by this sound Doctrine If a servant in seven yeares apprenticeship attaine more perfection in his trade then his Master will anie be so ridiculous as to say he is a false workman because he workes better then his Master The Scribes and Pharisees in their seeming holinesse and perverting of the Law Pag. 6 7. were alwaies as ready as you

have been at this time to vilisie raile at and oppose all those new Doctrines then whose sincerity out-stript their formality And if you have attained such a perfect sight in your last age that you can see through many godly men to be meare dissemblers and sly deceivers your perfection is a miraculous worke But we know now miracles are denyed and therefore I shall conclude with denyall of the same because you would have seene to have written a farre more moderate worke had you been so quick-fighted or rather none at all of such a nature as this is But in a word you say Pag. 7 8. Soundnesse of life is not so much to be noted as soundnesse of Doctrine for follow Christ in his Doctrine and let holinesse of life strengthen it What need you set the cart before the horse were not your designe in this to draw backward For will you lay a stumbling block where never yet any lay where throughout the whole Word of God was reall holinesse a stumbling blocke but that he that doth sincerely the will of God he chiefly shall know the Doctrines of God Christ promised blessednesse to the doer of his Word You say Pag. 9. He that desires to heare a Sermon which is Satans musicke let him go heare M. Peters But well now may it be said he that will read a booke that speakes the Devills language let him read M. Vicars his Schismaticke sifted You thought much M. Peters should say the picture of Independents was all nought but certainely now your verie friends will have cause to say this is all worse then nought And shall I tell you notwithstanding such requitalls as you returne him yet hath God honoured him so farre as to be an instrument of much praise to sound in Sion Thirdly you proceed according to your former method concluding before your proof passing sentence before the Judge that Independents are no Christians by two Scripture Characters 1. To speake all the truth from their heart 2. Having promised or sworne though to their losse yet not to break their covenant Now to this I say make good your charge which you doe as well as you can And thus you proceed That they are notorious dissemblers and deceivers for in their Apologeticall narration they call themselves Gods poore exiled and banished ones Pag. 1 2. whereas they went into the very fattest part of all Holland and could spend two or three hundred a yeare and better but where is your witnesse M. Edwards saith so But neither he nor you proves the contrary Herein the good pleasure of God being manifested unto them that as he called them out into a strange Land so he shewed himselfe there to be their God alsufficient Further Pag. 12. but say you In their Apologeticall Narration they acknowledge the Congregations in England where they were converted the true Church and Body of Christ and Parochiall Ministers true Ministers never judging them Antichristian but now they seperate from us as Antichristian Quaere Why may not they now seperate from you since you have now separated from them were not these men nearer to your affections while they were in exile which you then acknowledged and prayed for their returne how could you thus affect these men who were famous for God in a strange Land and now thus endeavour to estrange them from that God in their native Land in the enjoyment of his pure Ordinances They little thought so many faithfull Ministers left behind in England under Episcopall Tyranny when they should come to have power in their hands they would have proved so violent for so poor a formall way had they the equall power the former had But further Pag. 14. you say They resolved deeply not to vent their owne opinion through pride and singularity which you say M. Burroughs M. Simson and Master Bridge hath done Where is your witnesse M. Edwards saith so in his excellent Worke. Are you not both affraid and ashamed to speake so great an untruth is the Word of the eternall God become mans opinion hath God shewed them his Word and his Will and that more especially in a strange Land where they were not ill intreated although they followed the rule of that Word there and shall not they bee as free to close with God at home ô strange mysterie of iniquitie 4. Now to your great Charge Pag. 16. or to the chiefe chaffe of your siftings wherein you seeme to carrie all on your side to the disgrace of the fore-mentioned Independent-party taxing them disgracefully of breach of Covenant which was confirmed say you by an Instrument or Writing subscribed by both parties left by their consent in the hands of M. Calamy for a Witnesse at all occasions to see but say you M. Nye borrowed the said Writing of M. Calamie under pretence to view it but never would returne it pretending he left it behind him at Hull And first give me leave to deale piainly since you deale so wisely and declare plainely who was the first contriver of this defigne Secondly why was the agreement left wholly in one mans hand and he no moderator but a chiefe opposer of the dissenting Party who as yet have ever been on the weaker side in reference to earthly powers For although you say you have not stirred yet you have stirred up others for procuring a power which you have got witnesse the ground you have got of your dissenting Brethren 5. Pag. 8. Say you The Inependent party have oft been desired to give in their Modell but they have refused and delayed it time after time both to divers abroad as well as to us at home Well Sir here is your charge againe but did not M Edwards say this also Why should it seeme so strange that their forme is not so soone ready as yours truly the Reformed Churches never did so much for them as they have done for you there is more power upon their spirits then ever yours in its dead letter can attaine why are you so earnest to see all of that a part of which you so cry out against witnesse Mr. Burroughs Mr. Simson and Mr. Bridge for their discoverie in their Expositions and Sermons which truths have so shaken your desired government that a farther discovery certainely would yeeld you but small comfort for Gods design is to make Christ glorious in his Kingly Office who is the only King of Saints Churches and Kingdomes and when hee shall possesse himselfe of his royall Soveraignty all powers shall be subjected and subdued to him and then shall the glorie of all other powers under him appear Farther Pag. 22. you tax Independents saying They were opposers of the powers of Parliament untill the late Election of new Members which say you they thinke hath set them upon the wing of hope to attaine their desire that either the Presbytery shall not be setled or if it be their power shall be so clipt as it