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A96399 The real Quaker a real Protestant, and the spirit of popery directly struck at in answer to a most malicious and scandalous book, entituled, The papists younger brother, by a disguised author under the titles Misoplanes and Philalethes, but on the contrary proved Philoplanes, Misalethes / by a servant of Christ, G. Whitehead. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1679 (1679) Wing W1952; ESTC R42838 97,690 135

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same as to Miracles or to equalize themselves therein with the Apostles though God hath wrought Wonders and Miracles among them and by some as Instruments in his hand Art 78. That to redeem and make free from Sin is done with the Body of Christ which we have told you is the Church A Perversion still as if the Church only did redeem and free it self whereas 't is Christ in and with his own Body that redeems his Church which is that Body of his whereof he is Head Though he has an intire peculiar and glorious Body yet the Church as united to him and Members of his Body comprehensively make up one Indivisible Body in the compleat and mysterious Union and Fulness of himself § 32. Art 81. That that man looks upon Christ with a Carnal Eye that looks upon him to have a true Body Which is a lying Forgery still Christ hath a true and Spiritual glorious Body whereof the Saints are Members in the spiritual and mysterious union wi●h himself § 32. Art 83. That Fellowship at the Lords Table is very wicked Is also a perverse falshood for ye cannot eat at the Table of the Lord and the Table of Devils Covetous Priests and Wicked People though they have the Sign or Shadow yet are short of the Lord's Table and partake not of the Flesh and Blood of Christ nor of his Supper while they shut him out of their Hearts § 16. 25. Art 89. That Vnquakeriz'd Christians do worship an unknown God A Forgery still none of our Terms or Creed but false and fleshly Christians do so Worship § 31. There are divers more Forgeries Perversions and Falshoods in the Priests Articles which for brevity's sake I omit and shall now give the Reader an Account according to my second Proposition before stated of some Truths set down in the Priests Articles which are not according to his Faith he having given them all the Title of the Quakers Vnsound Faith And thus I proceed viz. Pr. Art 2 3. Now we Quakers do believe that the Spirit alone doth give true discerning that the Light within ought to be the Rule of our Faith and Practice Answ We do believe that the Spirit of Truth is all-sufficient for those Ends 't is given for and leadeth into all Truth that true discerning of Spirits is a Gift of this Spirit and that we ought to walk in the Light of Christ Jesus and his Spirit as the chief Rule of our Faith and Practice which things it seems this Priest does not believe he believes not that the Spirit alone doth give true Discerning or that the Divine Light thereof ought to be his Rule He believes the Scripture to be the Rule of Life without the Light within as he has told us p. 120. § 14 15. Pr. Art 21. We Q. believe that we are to mind the Spirit alone in all things Answ We do believe we ought to mind the Spirit of Truth in all things both in reading Scripture for a true understanding thereof and in our Words and Actions but this Priest does not believe he ought to be so mindful of the Spirit his mind is more upon Flesh than Spirit § 14 15 23. Pr. Art 34. We Q. do believe that the Name Sunday is Heathenish that every day is the Lord's day Answ Then this Priest does not believe the Name Sunday is Heathenish or proceeded from Heathens or that every day is the Lords thus ignorant he has shewn himself § 20. Pr. Art 35. We Q. believe that they are no truly faithful Christians who deny that there is a perfect freedom from all manner of Sin to be had in this Life that their Faith is not the true Faith if it doth not cleanse them from all their Sins Answ This Priest therefore believes that they are truly faithful Christians and in the true Faith who deny a Perfect freedom from Sin in this Life and whose Faith does not cleanse them from their Sins which is contrary to the Belief and Faith of truly faithful Christians who know the Heart-purifying Faith and the Blood of Christ to cleanse them from all Sin and such could say He hath washed us from our Sins in his own Blood But 't is not done in this Life saith the Priest When then In the Life to come it must be But Where must it be in a Purgatory between Heaven and Hell That 's Popish Doctrine § 21. and 28. Pr. Art 36. We Q. do believe that the Scripture is not the Light nor the Word nor the Life nor the Judge nor the Rule nor the Guide nor the Tryer of Spirits Answ This being also included in the Qrs. unsound Faith by the Priest we must take it for granted that he believes the Scripture is the Light the Life the Judge † Contrary to Psal 50.6 Isa 33 22. Acts 10.42 Heb. 12.23 James 5.9 the Rule the Guide the Tryer of Spirits which Terms by way of Eminency most properly belonging to God to Christ to the holy Spirit to the divine Light * John 1 c 11.25 c. 14.6 might not the Priest as well have told us that the Scripture is God and Christ § 22 23 § 14 15. Pr. Art 37. We Q. do believe that the People and Teachers are Ignorant of Christ who seek Life in the Scripture where it is not to be found Answ So then this Priest therefore believes that Eternal Life is to be sound in the Scriptures and they who seek it in the Scripture do know and find Christ the Light and Life Eternal therein which is contrary to Christs own Testimony John 5.39 Search the Scriptures for in them ye THINK ye have Eternal Life and they are they which testifie of me but ye will not come to me that ye might have Life § 22 23. § 14 15. Pr. Art 50. We Q. do believe That they are all Heathens and no Christians who are so baptiz'd i. e. with Water and cannot witness the other Baptism i. e. the Baptism of Christ Answ This Priest then believes that they all are no Heathens but Christians who are Baptized or Sprinkled with Water when Infants though they cannot witness the Baptism of Christ at such an easie rate can he make Christians contrary to Christs own Testimony If I do not wash thee thou hast no part in me and except a man be born of Water and of the Spirit he cannot enter the Kingdom of God § 16. 25. 29. Pr. Art 51. We Q. do believe that Sacramental Bread so called is Natural that the Cup is such like and that which they call the Lords Supper is a Shadow Answ This being also included in the Qrs. Vnsound Faith we may take it for granted that the Priest does not believe that the Bread and the Cup which they call Sacramental and the Lords Supper are Natural Carnal or Shadow What then that they are Supernatural Spiritual the Substance the Body and Blood of Christ yea That the Bread broken
only Well to make the best on 't 't is granted that by Christ's Merit and true Faith in him we are Justified Whence it therefore follows that our Justification is not fulfilled wholly without us unless our Faith must be wholly excluded or shut out as wholly without us Pr. Ibid. The Case is sad that IMPARTED Righteousness may not be retained but Imputed Righteousness like Ishmael must be c●st forth yea LOATHED as a Sin-pleasing Notion rejected as that which is Horrible Wicked Answ Here is an Abusive Insinuation suggested against us We do not cast forth nor loath any Righteousness that God for Christ's sake imputes to us or reckons ours through true and living Faith We do not set Imparted Righteousness in Opposition to what is truly Imputed to us because 't is not truly Imputed unless Imparted As that of Faith which was reckon'd to Abraham and is still to his Children who are of Faith and walk in his steps But 't is here granted that there must be Imparted Righteousness and that it must be retained and therefore Imputed Righteousness not cast out nor rejected If not cast out nor rejected then it must be retained within So on the other hand I may justly argue that 't is sad that Imputed Righteousness may not be retained but Imparted Righteousness must be cast forth and loathed as Popery Or that we should be reckoned as denying Christ's Merits or Deservings while we are also asserting his inward Work Righteousness and Obedience of Faith unto Justification for these are not inconsistent Qr. To William Penn's affirming that Christ's Work was twofold 1st To remit forgive or justifie from the Imputation of Sins past such as truly repent and believe 2dly By his Power and Spirit working in the Hearts of such to destroy and remove the very nature of Sin to make an end of it to finish Transgression c. Pr. To this the Priest answers p. 11. viz. With this Distinction he doth only play the Mountebank's part This Counterfeit Balsom he Juggles like the Devil this real Quaker hath the Knack to deliver some Truth according to Scripture that he may the better mannage his Devilish Design to put off his bad Wares Answ 'T is no Mountebanks Part or Juggle to deliver Truth according to Scripture nor hath the Real Quaker any Devilish Design therein this Foul-mouth'd Slanderer is far louder in his Charge than in his Proof the Distinction is honest and just in the first the Merit Dignity and Interest of our Lord Jesus Christ is confest In the second is his Power and Work of Grace in the Heart unto Sanctification and Justification asserted which does not oppose but effectually speaks forth his Dignity and Merit for man's eternal good Pr. Ibid. The first part of this Quaking Distinction is very lame the latter part full of false Doctrine to make Justification by Christ's Righteousness without us a Counterfeit Doctrine and Justification by Inherent Righteousness only Thus the Papists and Quakers are in a great measure Hail Fellow well met only the Quaker hath the Honour to be the more perfect Dotard of the Two Answ Here is no Confutation but Scorn and Perversion which shews himself rather the Perverse Dotard For Christ's Righteousness and Merit as in himself or as it was without us is not excluded Remission or Justification from the Charge of Sins past on Repentance and Faith Nor is Justification wholly placed upon the inherent or inward Righteousness of Christ but both are concern'd in man's absolute Justification Only the Doctrine of Imputation to exclude or reject Christ's Inherent Righteousness in Justification of the Unrighteous Unconverted or Wicked this we oppose as unsound § VI. And further there is no such Correspondency between the Papists and Quakers in the point for the Papists place the Merit of Justification and Salvation upon their own Works after the first Justification by Christ's Merits thereby rendring God indebted to them for their Good Works Acts of Charity c. though done by his Grace The Quaker distinguishes between Merit in the strict sence as used by the Papists and obtaining Acceptance with God upon the Faithful Improvement of his Grace and Obedience of Faith God accepts us in and for Christ's sake in our Obedience to his free Grace but we do not thereby Merit Buy or Purchase Salvation to our selves as making God a Debtor to us in the Papists sence For 't was of his free Grace that we are what we are and that we obey and practise what 's our Duty For by Grace through Faith we are saved not of our selves it s the Gift of God to whom we must render the Praise of all Qr. Ibid. To William Penn's granting such as Repent and believe receive Remission or a Justifying from former sins through the Righteousness of God declared in by Jesus Christ But Compleat Justification is a making inwardly Just through a purging out of Iniquity mortifying of Corruption and bringing in Christ's Everlasting Righteousness Pr. To this the Priest gives his Answer viz. Here 〈◊〉 have the Real Quaker a down-right Papist he is professedly gone into the Tents of Rome he is become a stout Champion under the Popes Banner Behold this Real Quaker dabling in gross Popery Answ This is all a Slanderous and manifest Perversion 't is no Popery but Scripture-Testimony to assert That Compleat Justification is a making inwardly Just through a purging out Iniquity mortifying Corruption making the Soul to partake of Christ's Everlasting Righteousness seeing that according to his Mercy he saved us by the washing of Regeneration and Renewing of the holy Ghost which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour Tit. 3. And this is not a meriting Salvation by our own Works in the Papists sence For 't is placed upon the Kindness of God in Christ and washing of Regeneration Pr. Ibid. Acccording to the Tenour of his words Compleat Justification is a MAKING INWARDLY JVST through a purging out of Iniquity mortifying of Corruption and bringing in Christ's Everlasting Righteousness Answ And this Adversary hath said nothing in Confutation of this he only recites and reviles our words and rails at us but Reasons not to our Conviction or Confutation If to Justifie be Justum facere to make Just as some of his own Coat have confest and that on the place cited Tit. 3.4 5 6 7. then this must be inwardly effected through a purging out Iniquity and a bringing in Christ's Everlasting Righteousness even through the washing of Regeneration But see what the Priest offers to confute us in the Sequel Pr. p. 12. Thus the Doctrine of the Church of England is trampled under foot c. Answ He thinks he has gotten a strong hold in the Church of England there is his Castle and Garrison to Consute the Quakers by telling them Thus the Doctrine of the Church of England is trampled under foot but tells us not what that Doctrine is But it seems it is a Doctrine
has not told us very likely 't is by some severe means as Hanging the Quakers and Burning their Books this Priest hath Malice enough for both as if that would prevail more to the safety of Souls from Error then all the Priests Preaching or Arguments 'T is evident how little Interest they have in mens Consciences But then this course would honour the Quakers with Martyrdom and raise greater enquiry after their Religion and then it will be time for Persecuting Clergy-men to be silent Pr. Ibid. Books not so dangerous as this is have been burnt by the hand of the common Hangman Answ He smels still strong of the old Where 's Cup Envy and Persecution But the Impartial Readers will see that his Book is more fit for such Execution 't is so filled with Scorn and Blasphemy against the Light of Christ Jesus within Pr. Ibid. The Author is gone to his Judge so this Book deserves a black mark for his sake and its Pestilent Doctrine Answ Malicious and Blind Presumption thus finally to condemn the Author as he has the Book as if he were infallibly sure that he is gone to utter Damnation But see his Ignorance and Falshood in his proofs Pr. Ibid. This Quaking Primmer begins with a Lye to corrupt Children's Minds the Light within which is no express Scripture phrase is indeed a meer Fancy the Real Quaker's Idol Answ Gross Ignorance and Blasphemy the Light within is no Fancy nor Idol 't is the Light of Christ within God's inshining in our Hearts that we profess that mens Minds may be turned from Darkness that 's within them to the Light of Christ within That God hath shined in our Hearts is express Scripture Pr. p. 28. It s false Doctrine to make the Light within to be the Teacher of the Fear of God Answ The Light of Christ within teacheth to depart from Evil and to do good to speak and practise Truth and therefore the Fear of God is taught by it Pr. Ibid. In this Quaking Primmer little Children are taught to take heed to the Light within them that the Scripture the more sure Word of Prophecy may not be regarded by them as their Guide or Rule of their Lives Answ The more sure Word of Prophecy mentioned 2 Pet. 1.19 is explained in the same place what it is Whereunto ye do well that ye take heed as unto A LIGHT that shineth in a dark place until the Day dawn and the Day Star arise in your Hearts And therefore it is a Light of Christ within which directs and guides unto his inward Appearance who is the bright and morning Star It could not be the Scriptures of the Prophets that was intended by this more sure Word for they could not be more sure than that Voice which Peter James and John heard from the Excellent Glory when they were with Christ in the Mount Nor yet more sure than the Apostles Testimony Wherein then lies the Comparison but in that Divine Word or Light of the Son of God being more general and more near to them than that Voice though both true This Word doth shine in many dark Hearts that never heard that Voice Pr. pag. 29. Gross Popery here is Deliverance from Condemnation not by Faith in Christ's Merits but by obeying the Light within their worst Guide Answ Here is gross Ignorance and Blasphemy against the Light of Christ within still Christ did not oppose his own Merit Deserving or Dignity by exhorting his Hearers to believe in the Light that they might become Children of the Light and if we walk in the Light as he i. e. God is in the Light we have Fellowship one with another and the Blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all Sin 1 John 1.7 and this in relation to the Divine Light for God is Light vers 5. Therefore this Light within is that whereby men may know the Benefit of Christ's Blood and Merit But this Priest has here branded Christ's and his Apostles Testimonies herein with gross Popery Pr. Ibid. Quakerism serves as a Stepping-stone for Popery in this Church and Kingdom Answ If Papists had not greater Hopes of making many of you Clergy-men swallow down Popery for Preferments and Self-ends than they have of the Quakers they would not be so confident in their Attempts 'T is easie for them to suppose that a Temporizing Clergy man whose Conscience is benumbed either by Avarice or Covenant-breaking is a fit Agent to introduce Popery gradually under some hidden Disguise or Cloak as this Adversary can cry up the Church of England and cry down Popery while he looks and steers his course directly towards Rome both in his Rage against dissenting Protestants and asserting divers Popish Doctrines Ibid. Qr. Primmer p. 13 14. Hearken not to the Deceivers who keep you from the Light of Christ Jesus believe them not that turn you from the Light for they are not the Ministers of Christ Pr. answers Here you may observe how this Quaking Primmer is mainly designed to foist these new Vessels by this bad Liquor put into them Other Teachers whether Arch-Bishops or Bishops Priests or Deacons are but Deceivers no Ministers of Christ to whom little Children are here taught not to hearken nor believe them Answ How plain is it here that by his making the Application to the Arch-Bishops Bishops Priestsor Deacons he has granted them to be such Teachers as keep Persons from the Light of Christ Jesus and turn them from the Light for such are they that little Children are taught not to hearken to nor believe viz Hearken not to the Deceivers who keep you from the Light of Christ Jesus c. Pr. pag. 30. Abominable False Doctrine that the holy Scriptures are not the Way to know the Truth Ibid. God's Ministers teach that the Scriptures are the way to know the Truth Answ Christ saith I am the Way the Truth and the Life and the Spirit of Truth shall guide you into all Truth Where do the Scriptures say They are the Way Surely they are not Christ nor the Spirit but testifie of both which is no decrying of the holy Scriptures to allow the Spirit the Preference Pr. Ibid. These Quakers are strangely fond of the Light within so as to cry down the Light of God's own Word This Quaking Dotage Answ No Fondness nor Dotage in crying up the Light of God's living Word within which is nigh in the Heart which is not to cry down the Scripture as is falsly supposed I have hid thy Word in mine Heart that I might not sin against thee 't is a Light unto my Paths and a Lanthorn to my Feet saith David Qr. Primmer p. 16. Such are Deceivers who preach for Money and Tythes such cannot lead you out of Transgression for they are in Transgression themselves for Christ said to his Freely ye have received freely give and Paul made not the Gospel Chargeable but these Priests that preach for filthy Lucre deceive people Pr. The Priest answers
pag. 30. In this Quaking Primmer here is a base Charge drawn against all the Ministring Priests of the Church of England Here these Quakers have fired their Beacon that the Youth of this Church may have timely notice to beware of their best Soul-Friends Here the silly Sheep are slightly counselled against their Keepers that the Quaking Wolves may the better prey upon them Answ Here the Priest rages and rails but defends not himself and his Brethren from the Charge of such being Deceivers as preach for Money and Tythes and who being in Transgression not able to lead others out of it only he sayes 'T is a base Charge against all the Ministring Priests of the Church of England as if he had told us all the Ministring Priests of the Church of England do preach for Money and Tythes and then cryes out Quaking Wolves as if that were enough to clear him and his Brethren and to be a deadly Blow to the Quakers Who is it cannot see such Impertinency Malice and Railery He tells us They are God's Priests and Ambassadours by whom God doth beseech his Rebel-Subjects to be reconcited but proves it not we have only his Say-so He should have proved his own and their Call to the Ministry We deny that they are immediately called of God either to be his Priests Embassadours or Mouth How should they be so Called that deny Immediate Teaching and Inspiration and especially such who scoff at the Light within and the Spirit 's Teaching as this Adversary doth And for a mediate Call I deny that they have it from the holy Apostles or primitive Church of Christ in their dayes Pr. pag. 31. Here little Children are taught to look upon all Teaching Priests as so many Deceivers as those Hirelings that preach for Money and Tythes which is a Lying Slander Answ No this is mis-stated for they are taught to look upon all such as preach for Money and Tythes to be Deceivers Hirelings c. Pr. Ibid. According to the baseness of these Quaking Lines its a shame for the King 's sacred Majesty the Defender of the true Faith that such base Priests should be owned by him Answ Here for a shelter he would make the King a Patronizer of the Priests Cause how Base soever any of them are in Preaching for Hire and Cruel in Persecuting and Imprisoning People for Tythes he thinks he argues stoutly in their Defence to tell us The King 's sacred Majesty owns them when alas his Majesty knows not a tenth part of their Baseness and Cruelty who are guilty of persecuting his peaceable Subjects for their Bellies and filthy Lucre. And rather than not have their Covetous Ends answered they 'l throw a Man in Goal for the Value of a Tythe-Pig they are so cruel and hard-hearted many of them that they value a few Tythe-Piggs more than they do Mens Liberties or Lives I am perswaded such Priests will bring no Honour to the King Pr. Ibid. Devilish Lessons that the Scripture is not the Word of God Answ No where doth the Scripture call it self the Word but in the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God c. and his Name is called The Word of God John 1. Rev. 19.13 Yet what the Scriptures call themselves we call them so and own them to be Pr. pag. 32. To say that God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Ghost are Three Persons but One God this is to speak we know not what c. Ibid. To say with the Church of England In the Vnity of this Godhead there be Three Persons of One S●●s●ance Power and Eternity the Father the Son and H. Ghost is in this Quaker 's Account the Doctrine of the World Answ That in the Unity of the Godhead there 's Father Son and Holy Spirit of One Substance Power and Eternity we do own and confess according to the Scripture but that these are Three distinct or separate Persons as some have called them we have no Scripture Proof for these Terms Why does not this man bring us plain Scripture-Proof in this Case seeing he professes it to be his only Rule of Faith Has he not given here great Advantage to the Papists to tell him that the Church is his Rule and not the Scripture in this great Article of his and their Faith Pr. pag. 33. To prepare little Children to slight them i. e. the Scriptures as being unable to bring them to know God and Christ and the Spirit of Truth according to these Quaking Lines St. Paul was mistaken when he said that the Scripture was profitable for Doctrine Answ 'T is no preparing any to sleight the Scriptures to testifie of Christ his Light and Spirit of Truth as being the Way to know God whom no man knows but by the Son 's revealing him And God who commanded Light to shine out of Darkness hath shined in our Hearts to give us the Light of the Knowledge of the Glory of God in the Face of Christ Jesus This is not said of the Scriptures though as given by Inspiration of God they are profitable for Doctrine for Reproof for Instruction that the Man of God may be perfect throughly furnisht unto every good Work Herein Paul was not mistaken for the Man of God is Divinely Inspired unto the right Understanding and Use of the Scriptures Therefore this Inspiration is the Ground of Divine Knowledge The Scriptures are profitable by the help of this through the Blessing of God hereby have we found Profit and Comfort in reading the Scriptures which no man can without the BLESSING of GOD by his Spirit Pr. Ibid. To Exalt the Quakers Idol the Light within little Children are here taught to slight the holy Scriptures as a Du●● Book Answ Here is both horrid Blasphemy against the Light of Christ within and a gross Lye that little Children are so taught to slight the holy Scriptures for they are told in the very words cited by this Priest That the Scriptures of Truth do declare of God Christ and the Spirit of Truth and this is not to slight the Scriptures thus to own their Testimony on the behalf of God his Christ and the holy Spirit The holy Scriptures may be made instrumental for our Profit and Confirmation through the Divine and Gracious Assistance of the holy Spirit but not of themselves or without it His Comparison between Popish Catechisms and ours and his telling us of Papal Quakers that make their Followers two-fold more the Children of Hell are both False Infamous and Slanderous and nothing like any rational Proof urged by him but a continued persisting in his Abusive Railery and Reviling for which the Lord rebuke him § X V. The Priest's next Quarrel and Railery is against William Smith's two Treatises Primmer and Catechism Pr. pag. 33. Both Primmer and Catechism are the fittest for Smithfield to receive the Hang-man's Imprimatur Answ This same Envious Spirit that is still finding Work for the Hang-man to
burn such Books for testifying of the Light of Christ within would no doubt both Hang and Burn us if it had but Power but God be thanked for putting a Limit to it Pr. pag. 34. The Light Within this Quaker 's Fondling is the Child 's only Tutor to help him to know God his Way and Truth Answ You may see his Rage is still against the Light Within which neither he nor the Devil shall ever be able to suppress if they had Power to imploy the Hang-man against us I would ask him and his Brethren if they think that any can know God his Way or Truth without the help of Divine Light surely they cannot by continuing in Darkness Pr. Ibid. As for the Scripture which is given by Inspiration of God as St. Paul saith is able to make wise to Salvation Answ Pauls words are these And that from a Child thou hast known the holy Scriptures which are able to make thee wise unto Salvation THROUGH FAITH WHICH IS IN CHRIST JESUS But these words Through Faith which is in Christ Jesus the Priest hath disingenuously left out as if the Scriptures of themselves without either Faith in Christ or Light from him could make wise to Salvation whereas this was writ to Timothy a man of God a man in the Faith and Knowledge of God a man that was partaker of the Gift of the holy Ghost in him to whom it was said Neglect not the Gift that is in thee the Vnfeigned Faith that is in thee stir up the Gift of God which is in thee c. So that the Scriptures alone without Divine Assistance and Faith in Christ Jesus could not make him wise to Salvation but the holy Spirit alone could nor be of that profit and advantage to him but as he partook of that Faith which is in Christ Jesus For Christ himself was the principal and chief cause of saving Wisdom and Knowledge in whom all the Treasures thereof are Quakers Primmer pag. 5. Such as are not Christs Ministers have their Power and Authority from Man and each man a place of settlement called a Parish In that Parish they have Tythes and a Law made by man to compel it and if any for Conscience sake cannot give it them then they Sue and Imprison them and Spoil their Goods and these are Wolves Child that are let loose among the Lambs to rend and tear them c. Pr. The Priest Answers p. 35. By this Quaking Father the Children of this Church and Kingdom are basely taught in a ridiculous manner to despise all Gods Ministers of what degree soever throughout this whole Kingdom from the Kings Chappel to the meanest Congregation we are all alike none of Christs Ministers like Jeroboams Priests or Baals Prophets this Quaker saith we derive our Authority from Man The Consecration of Arch-Bishops and Bishops the Ordinantion of Priests and Deacons is no more but an Humane Invention for they have their Power and Authority from Man Answ I shall need say little to these Passages untill he gives us a better Consutation to clear himself and his Brethren than only are-citation of our Friends words or his bare telling us that they are God's Ministers I deny that the Children are here taught to despise Gods Ministers when they are taught to deny such Priests as Preach for Hire and Divine for Money and Persecute Oppress Imprison spoil People in their goods for Tythes I deny that such derive their Authority from God or that the Consecration and Ordination of the Bishops who are called Lord Bishops who by their Office are made Great and Rich in the Earth and their Parish-Priests can shew any higher Power and Authority then what 's Human or of man whether they be set up by Pope or Prince and many Thousands are of the same mind with me as being dissatisfied concerning them Let them therefore shew us any Divine Authority or Power for their Consecration Ordination and Commission that we may be convinc'd thereof according to the holy Scriptures Otherwise it s but a pitiful begging the Question for this Priest to cry themselves up as Gods Ministers Ministers of Gods Word or Gods Priests and to boast of the Kings Power on their side and the Kings Chappel and the Arch-Bishops and Bishops as if that were sufficient to prove that they are Divinely authorized and impower'd while this is his great Refuge he has the King and Bishops on his side and they own the Priests therefore the Consecration and Ordination Power and Authority is not Human or of Man but Divine What Real Christian or Rational man will own such Arguing as this to prove the Commission Divine And verily this is the best Logick and strongest Argument I can ●ather or naturally infer from this Priests Method to prove his Call Power or Authority to preach in the Name of Christ Pr. Ibid. An Hour-Glass measures the time of their Preaching which their Eyes are oft upon In this Qu●kers Eye they are no better than so many Hour-Glass Preachers Answ 'T is strange this Man should cite this passage against the Priests practice and give us no better proof for it then only the Recital of the Charge and telling us 'T is a silly scandalous Charge and that it is a shame that such base things should not signally be taken notice of as if to incense the Magistrates to punish us for saying The Priest Preaches by an Hour-Glass were Confutation enough for us and proof sufficient for such a Practice But what Scripture has he for preaching by an Hour-Glass Come Priest bring us plain Scripture for this your practice or else never pretend the Scripture to be thy Rule of Faith and Practice Quakers Prim. p. 10. The Scriptures are a true Testimony of what the Saints are made Witnesses of but the Spirit is the Rule unto them that gave forth the Scriptures The Priest Answers p. 36. The Youth are taught by this Quaking Father that the Scriptures are not the Rule of Faith and Obedience Answ Come Priest seeing 't is an Article of thy Faith that the Scriptures are the Rule of Faith and Obedience and not the Spirit as appears by the Tenor of thy Writing let us have plain Scripture to prove this great Article of thy Faith to wit that the Scriptures are the Rule of Faith and Obedience If thou hast not plain Scripture for this then it follows not only that the Scripture is not the Rule of thy Faith and Practice but also that thy Position or Article in this case is unsound as well as Unscriptural and inconsistent with it self that the Scriptures are the only Rule of Faith c. and yet no Scripture to prove they are so But that they testifie of Christ as the Way the Truth the Life the Light and that the Spirit of Truth is that which guides into all Truth this is Scriptural And further 't is very Uncharitable to condemn all Nations that have not the Scriptures and that is
the consequence of placing the Rule of Faith Knowledge of God and Salvation only upon the Scripture and not upon the Light of Christ within Pr. Ibid. Vnto the Law and the Testimony is no Rule for Children to walk by Page 65. By no means the Law and the Testimony mentioned by the Prophet Isaiah may now be our Rule Hath not this man Quaked to purpose Answ He still wrongs and abusively derides the Quaker for children are not so taught that the Law and the Testimony is No Rule for them to walk by whether it relate to the Law and Testimony of God as outward in Scripture or inward in the Heart whether to the Law and Testimony of God by Moses as in Tables of Stone or to the Law and Testimony of Christ as in fleshly Tables of the Heart we cannot say of either that 't is no Rule at all for every Command or Precept from God or Christ whether it be upon outward or inward Record is a Rule in it self for Instruction by the Spirit 's Assistance The Law and Testimony as given by Moses and as in Tables of Stone were a Rule to Israel after the Flesh yet not to exclude the Word nigh them even in their Hearts or their hearkening to the Voice of God for that was through all Dispensations The Law and Testimony of the New Covenant written in the Hearts of spiritual Christians under the Guidance of the holy Spirit must needs be their Rule now who Worship God in Spirit And further the Commandment which is a Lamp and the Law which is Light and the Testimony of Jesus which is the Spirit of Prophecy are not only the Principal Rule in the Hearts of Spiritual Christians who are the Evangelical Israel and Inward Jews but also of more Universal extent as to Nations then the Scriptures are For when even those Gentiles who have not the Law and yet do by Nature the things contain'd in the Law these having not the Law are a Law unto themselves which shew the work of the Law written in their Hearts Rom. 2.14 15. So that the Scripture could not be their Rule who had it not but the Law and Light of God and his Christ in their Hearts And the Law and the Testimony within contain the Substance and Truth of what 's written in Scripture and will the more clearly and livingly appear and be read in the Heart as the Vail of Darkness Sin and Corruption in man is removed and taken away in his Conversion and coming into the New Covenant Dispensation On the words To the Law and to the Testimony I would Query If this Testimony could be the Books of the New Testament which this Prophet Isaiah referred them then to No sure how could they when those Books were not then written Yet whoever obey and follow the Law and Testimony of the SPIRIT of Life in Christ Jesus within such cannot Oppose Slight nor Invalidate any thing of holy Scripture but have real Union therewith and be in the Life Practice and Fulfilling thereof Pr. Ibid. The Spirit that doth infatuate the Quakers is the foolish Guide whom this Quaking Father would have his Child to follow Answ What Blasphemous Folly is this against the Spirit of Truth which the Quaker would have the Child yea and all Men to follow which 't is Horrid Blasphemy to charge with being an Infatuating or Foolish Guide whereby he hath also abused and slighted Christ's Testimony and the Scriptures which testifie of the Spirit of Truth to guide into all Truth Pr. Ibid. This Quakers Faith to undermine the Scriptures to render them good for nothing for saith he the Spirit alone is to be minded in all things therefore the Scriptures to be minded in nothing Answ He hath herein abominably belied the Quaker and perverted his words though he himself has cited but a few Lines before in the same page 36. viz. The Scriptures are a true Testimony of what the Saints were made Witnesses of This is no undermining nor rendring them good for nothing Again from minding the Spirit alone in all things it follows not that the Scriptures are to be minded in nothing He might as well have said that nothing else upon any account is to be minded but the Spirit alone howbeit that the Spirit alone is to be minded in all things as the Principal and most Eminent Rule is true yea 't is to be minded even in the reading Scriptures or else they cannot be rightly understood Pr. p. 37. The Quakers ill Spirit is to be minded in all things this alone is the true Discerner betwixt Truth and Falshood but pity those poor Children that have no better guide to follow Answ When the Quakers speak of the Spirit of Truth this Priest will have it the Quakers Ill Spirit thus he Blasphemously perverts still But that the Spirit of Truth is both the true Discerner and Giver of true Discerning betwixt Truth and Falshood I suppose he dare not deny S. XVI Pr. pag. 38. As for those Priests that do warrantably use the Common Prayer-Book either in the King's Chappel or else-where to speak this Quakers mind or sense they are a company of dull Ignoramusses they cannot pray at all a sad Case except it be in the Quakers Dumb Meeting or amongst those that are acted by the Spirit of the Hat Answ The Quaker so called was speaking of such Priests and Teachers as pray not with the Spirit nor with Vnderstanding and of some that cannot pray at all but as they have Made Prayers by others in a Book to read and such it seems he renders those Priests in the King's Chappel and else-where so dull as that they cannot pray without Book for he has made the Application with such a Reflection As for our Meeting which he Scornfully terms Dumb we therein wait upon God in his holy Fear and have regard to the Motions of his good Spirit in his Worship and Service both in our inward Attention Meditation Souls breathings unto God Preaching Praying to and Praising our God who is a Spirit and to be Worshipped in Spirit Truth I take his telling of the Spirit of the Hat also to be in Scorn and Contempt nothing at all of any serious Sence or Argument in it he should have explain'd himself therein Pr. p. 39. According to this Quaking Rant is not the King's Majesty basely reflected on Hath he not a dull Clergy to minister in his Presence Is not this Church whereof he is a Nursing-Father in a bad Cafe Answ I think this Priest hath Reflected on the King and his Clergy to purpose while he has rendred them such as do not pray with the Spirit or as cannot pray without Book for such was our Friend writing of about which this Priest takes all this occasion And why does he call the King a Nursing-Father of the Church He rather means as he would have him the Nursing-Father of the Clergy that they may feed upon the Fat
say The Scripture proceedeth from Christ but is not Christ for he is the Light the Life the Word the Judge the Guide of all his true Followers And why may not he be called the Rule as well as the Way the Truth c Pr. Ibid. This Qr. is guilty of Weak Reasoning because Christ is the Word the Light the Life therefore the Scripture is not a Light the Word of Life a Judge a Guide a Tryer of Spirits rare Quaking Logick Answ He grants the Qrs. Assertion that Christ is the Word the Light the Life wherein he has weakened his own Cause but his Inference upon the Quaker I deny for that the Qr. does not argue in the Terms he doth For the Priest cunningly puts in A Light A Guide A Judge A Tryer of Spirits as applicable to the Scriptures wherein he greatly varies the Terms from The Light The Guide c. to A Light A Guide But that the Scriptures of themselves abstractly are these without Divine Assistance he proves not if he dare affert it muchless that the Scriptures are the Word of Life or the Living Word let him prove that I deny his Position for Christ is the Living Word Pr. pag. 62. At this Door hath been brought in all the Filth that hath been east upon the holy Scripture The Scripture is not the Light What is it then Darkness saith one Qr. not to be minded in any thing saith another Answ There is no Filth cast upon the holy Scripture by asserting Christ to be the Word of Life the Light the Judge the Guide c. Again I am confident that he has wrong'd two Qrs. so called in his dark Accusation not telling us what Qr. would call the holy Scripture Darkness or what Qr. did say 't is not to be minded in any thing This is a blind Story I am apt to think of his own forging for no real Qr. would speak so slightily of the holy Scriptures Though there are Parables that are called dark Sayings in the Scriptures which yet cannot properly be called Darkness Pr. Ibid. The Scripture is become like a Dung-Cart to receive what Filth the Qrs. and Papists have to throw into it Answ This is an abominable and slanderous Comparison against the Qrs. who have fully exprest their Reverend Esteem of the holy Scriptures both in Doctrine and Conversation Pr. pag. 64. Are not those Streams which make glad the City of God basely foulled by him Answ He counts the Scriptures those Streams and thereby sets them in the place of Christ who is that Man that shall be as an Hiding-place and is compared to Rivers of Water in a dry place Isa 32.2 And there the glorious Lord will be unto us a place of broad Rivers and Streams Chap. 33.21 And this was in Zion the City of our Solemnities and in Jerusalem a quiet Habitation Vers 20. 'T is these Streams of the Water of Life that make glad the City of God whereof the Scriptures testifie Pr. Ibid. The Scripture saith this Qr. is the Idol of all Gospel-Ministers to get Money by Pag. 67. They count the Holy Scripture an Idol Answ A plain Perversion and Falshood again the Qr. saith no such thing nor so accounts of the Scripture but that your Leaders cause you to err for their own Ends and of the Scripture they MAKE an Idol to get Money by He does not call the Scriptures the Idol but that such Make an Idol thereof to get Money by and these are no Gospel-Ministers Those Priests who make a Trade of Scripture and exalt it in the place of Christ make an Idol of it but it is not so in it self Pr. That the Scripture is not the Word nor a Light unto our Feet nor the Rule Guide Teacher or Judge because Christ is so An Oracle from this Qrs. Lying Spirit p. 65. Answ By way of Eminency we own Christ to be the Word also the Light the Rule the Guide the Teacher the Judge the Law-giver the Lord is our Judge the Lord is our Law-giver Isa 33.22 Yet we don 't hereby deny the Scriptures to be a Rule or to contain Words of God Pr. Ibid. That the sure Word of Prophecy is no Light shining in a Dark place Answ Yes the more sure Word of Prophecy is a Light shining in a Dark place in many Dark Hearts whereunto men do well to take heed until the Day dawn and the Day-star arise in their Hearts This Word was before the Scripture was writ The Priest calls the Scripture the sure Word of Prophecy but tells us not what Scripture nor wherein the Comparison is of its being the more Sure Word of Prophecy Concerning the Judge and the Light within and Benefit of Christ's coming see what John Preston saith in his Book Entituled The Doctrine of the Saints Infirmities pag. 106. viz. The Office I say of Christ is to teach men Judgment and this he doth with much Tenderness Compassion and Gentleness 1. To teach men the Just and Righteous Ways of God so the Word is taken in the Old Testament to ENLIGHTEN men to judge of the Ways of God Christ is often compared to a Shepherd that feeds his Flock Pag. 107. And he is also called the true Light which lightneth the World If Christ had not come into the World there would not have been one spark of God's Image left in man neither Adam nor his Posterity should have known any thing but a Cloud of Darkness should have seized on mens Minds But now by Christ's coming every one even the Wicked have this benefit that they have seen common Light Christ lighteth every one that cometh into the World in some sort teacheth them so much as shall make them inexcusable And pag. 111. If Christ were not God and Man that is If he were not patient in an Infinite manner he could not bear with us c. Observe how contrary to this of Christ's teaching men Judgment and being that true Light which lightneth every man c. our Adversary hath proceeded against the Light of Christ within both before and after these passages and how he hath opposed the benefit of Christ towards us both as God and Man contrary to J. Preston's account who was a man doubtless of better Fame Religion and Learning in his Day than our Adversary Pr. Ibid. Surely 't is matter of Lamentation that a false Christ the Light within who is not God and Man in one Person must by the Qrs. be thus exalted to lay the honour of the Scripture in the Dust Pag. 67. How fond the Qrs. are of their Light within to exalt this Idol Answ No such Design in the Quakers in exalting the Light within as to lay the honour of the Scripture in the Dust 'T is no dishonour to Scripture to exalt the Light of Christ within and however this Priest might have given the Light of Christ a better Epithete than a False Christ or this Idol especially since he hath given us this Concession
to the Light viz. That no Priests of the Church of England or else-where did ever deny that God might not be known by the Light of Nature within them pag. 120. See how manifestly the Priest has Contradicted himself here Did ye ever read that God might be known by a False Christ or by an Idol or by an ELF before as he calls the Light within † Whether by Elf he means a Fairy Nymph or Dwarf his Term is very Irreverent and Blasphemous Pr. pag. 68. It is a confessed Truth among us that all those do hold the Truth in Vnrighteousness that do not live according to it Answ Many such Professors there are among you that do not live according to Truth we wish your Repentance and Amendment of Life that you may through the Grace of God live answerable to Scripture Pr. Ibid. But 't is no false Light in any of us to profess the Scripture to be our Rule By God's own appointment the Scripture is the Rule of Faith and Life Answ The cripture is not your Rule if you walk contrary and hold Truth in Unrighteousness and live a sinful Life the Scripture is not the Rule of such a Life to be sure And if ye know it to be a Rule and profitable to you it must be through God's Assistance and his divine Illumination else ye cannot understand it But where by Gods own appointment the Scripture is called the Rule of Faith and ●ife he shews us not by Scripture Pr. Ibid. It 's folly to think that the sinfulness of any man's Life can make the Scripture to cease to be the Rule of Life as God hath declared it to be Answ He shews us not where God hath declared the Scripture or Writing to be the Rule of Life or the Rule of Faith and Life we have only his Say-so for it no Scripture-proof for this Article of his Faith And then where is the Foundation of his Faith which he pretends the Scripture to be the Rule of he is not content with its being a Rule Subordinate to the holy Spirits Guidance and Illumination of the understanding but by way of Emphasis he must have these Epithetes placed upon the Scripture which signifies Writing viz. The Rule of Faith and Life which yet he brings us no Scripture-proof for that ever God hath declared it so to be much less the Word of Life the Judge the Tryer of Spirits those streams which make glad the City of God Wherein he might as well plainly have told us that the Scripture is God Christ the Spirit the Life the Light and what not § XXIII Pr. Ibid. Without doubt it is a false Light in any Quaker which guides him to say that the Scripture is not the Rule of Life without the Light within to guide him Answ Here the Priest renders the Scripture the Rule of Life without the Light within to guide as if Men could know the benefit of the Scripture while in their Darkness without the Guidance of the Light The man is quite out here How should any rightly understand use or improve the Scripture without divine Illumination or Inspiration to open their Understandings seeing that there is a Spirit in Man but the Inspiration of the Almighty gives him understanding The Spirit of God is sufficient to instruct men in those Nations where they have not or cannot read Scripture But the Scripture of it self cannot guide any men nor be of any real profit to them so much as a Rule of Life without the Spirit and its inward divine Illumination For what can dark minds and Earthly Corrupt Hearts or Natural men by their own Wisdom truly understand of holy Scripture 't is as a seal'd Book unto them And therefore the Psalmist applied himself to the Lord in Prayer in this wise Teach me thy Statutes make me to understand the Way of thy Precepts so shall I talk of thy wondrous Works Remove from me the way of Lying and grant me thy Law graciously I will run the way of thy Commandments when thou shalt enlarge my Heart Teach me O Lord the Way of thy Statutes and I shall keep it unto the End Give me Vnderstanding and I shall keep thy Law yea I shall observe it with my whole Heart With many more such passages in Psal 119. Of whom did he seek this Teaching Understanding and Help but of the Lord Could then the Scripture of it self do all this no sure Consider of it and let all serious Readers take notice how blind Opposers of the Light of Christ within stumble and fall in the dark § XXIV In the next place the Priest appears greatly vex't at James Parnel's Book called The Trumpet of the Lord blown or A Blast against Pride and Oppression About which the Priest greatly abuses the Author and the people called Qrs. most shamefully perverting his Testimony against Pride and Oppression as may plainly appear in a few Instances As Whereas James Parnel saith Wo unto you that are called Lords and Ladies Knights c. in respect to your Persons who are Exalted in the Earth who are Proud High and Lofty c. With other passages Threatning and Warning of them for their Pride Wantonness Voluptuousness c. instancing Dives Haman Pharaoh c. Pr. Hereupon the Priest saith According to this Qr. the last End of all the aforesaid Persons without exception is to be destroyed p. 70. And that according to this Quaking Scrible all that are called Lords Ladies Knights Gentlemen and Gentlewomen Master Mistress Madam shall every one of them unless they turn Quakers be damn'd forever they shall without any Exception be cast into Hell p. 71. Answ The Priests horrid and gross Abuse in these Passages in saying that without any Exception they shall be all cast into Hell Here he makes the Threat Absolute as if because they are called Lords and Ladies c. they must all be damned in the Qrs. sence which is a most Sordid Perversion and Knavery leaving out much that concerns their Destructive Ways and States and the very Principal Condition or Matter which J. P. inserted in those Threats and Warnings of his and yet for all this the Priest puts in or Forges a Condition or Exception in his own Terms That unless they turn Qrs. they shall be damned forever These are none of J. P's words and yet a forged Exception enough to render the Priest Contradictory to himself And it is to be noted that this Priest in his Citation pag. 71. out of James Parnel's Book pag. 31 32 33. which he takes together he hath left out the most Materal Passages both relating to those Ways and States that are Destructive and to those Conditions that tend to Salvation As for Instance After the Words Rising up to Play the Priest leaves out and live in Pride and Covetousness And after the words The blind eads the blind into the Ditch he leaves out and so you lead your Lives and spend your Time here and
from his Hypocrisie False Doctrine and Persecution § XVII Pr. pag. 45. This Quaker 's Spirit is very blind that did not help him to discern betwixt seeking Honour one of another and giving Civil Honour one to another Answ Christ's words are plain John 5.44 How can ye believe which Receive Honour one of another and Seek not the Honour that comes from God only Their Receiving as well as Seeking Honour one from another is condemned by Christ as proceeding from Unbelief but the Honour he pleads for he explains viz. Pr. pag. 46. To have the Hat put off and Body to bow or the Feet to scrape this is Honour below which this Quaker 's Power of God seeks not Men scraping with their Feet Women Courtesying and drooping are by this rude Man censured as being Apostatizing Christians Answ Why does he not produce Scripture for his Rule in these Postures to prove that they are that Honour that proceeds from above and comes from God only They are from below if not from above If the Scripture be his Rule where is his Proof These feigned Postures of Bowing Scraping Drooping putting off the Hat c. to our Fellow-Creatures do not gratifie an Humble Christian Spirit but the contrary Pr. Ibid. Till the poor deluded Quakers came on the Stage of this World no man was so silly as to tax Hat and Knee Honour Answ This is more than he knows other Conscientious Persons have scrupled that kind of Complement and Mordecai could not bow to proud Haman Pr. Ibid. According to these Quaking Lines at Court it is not lawful to Kneel before the King c. Answ To Kneel Scrape or Bow before the King make it never a whit more lawful in God's sight nor any proof of being the Honour which comes from God only Qr. p. 47. True Honour is from the Heart and not from the Hat the Lord requires it not but the Pride of Man seeks it viz. to be honoured with the Hat c. Priest answers In these Lines this Quaking Father hath delivered abominable Doctrine against the King the Lord 's Anointed c. Answ Why abominable Doctrine against the King Is it against the King to honour and respect him as King and Supream Magistrate from the Heart and not with the Hat as Men-pleasers or to say that 't is the Pride of Man that seeks it He would debase the King very low as if he seeks such out side Complement or insisted so much upon it Thus this Priest like a feigned Temporizer would incense the King about a meer Complement Pr. Ibid. For neither Hat nor Knee-honour do belong to the King Thou King Charles hath too often been used by some Rude Quakers Answ Was it Rudeness in the Prophets and the Apostles to use the same Language as Thou to a King or for this Man to use it to God in his Prayers or is it improper in it self What a shameful Trifler is this Priest who for the word THOU calleth us Babel-Quakers p. 51. Pr. pag. 48. The Chief Magistrate the Fountain of Honour Answ God is the Fountain of all true Honour Ye seek not the Honour that comes from God only Pr. Ibid. The King's Majesty is outwardly Honoured by all Courtiers with Heads bare with Knees bowing in his Presence Answ Is this like a Minister of Christ's Work to teach people Court-Complements Let all serious Readers judge of this man's silly Insinuations Pr. pag. 49. Plain Charles is Honour enough for the King Answ That 's False and Contradictory to what he has said before viz. Thou King Charles which is more than only Charles Pr. Ibid. This Quakers Spirit hath a Lye put into his Pen for the Lord doth no where require that we should Honour all men in him Answ I know no true Honour we can give out of him if all true Honour come from him only Pr. Ibid. I hope I may write without Offence that here are Treason and Rebellion taught against our Soveraign Suppose the King were a Proud Heady High minded Man this Quaker saith there is no Honour due to him without Goodness no true Honour due to the King's Greatness Abominable Stuff Answ The Reader may see that this Cruel Priest's Malice and implacable Envy is great enough to Hang us if he had power but I never heard of such Treason and Rebellion against our Soveraign before as either to say that unto a proud heady high-minded Man that is meerly as a Person abstract from all Dignities though great in the World there is no Honour due that is none of that true and real Honour which comes from God only for God honours not such but will debase them Or to say that the Lord requires not the Honour that is from the Hat but the Pride of Man seeks it true Honour being from the Heart Where did you ever read of such Treason and Rebellion against the King before It seems this Priest would have us Hang'd for Traytors and Rebels because we cannot give the Hat-Honour Bow and Scrape to any great man's Person Or because that unto a proud heady high-minded Man though great in the World there is none of that Honour due that comes from God only the Honour sayes W. S. is given as due unto the Power which is spoken in general without any particular Reflection upon the King's Person or Authority as this Priest unjustly strains our Friend's words Yet though we cannot Respect men's Persons with Hat and Knee-Honour we respect their Places of Office or Dignity where God has set them and regard them therein as the King's Authority that God has given him and him as King we truly shew our honest and Christian Respect and Real Honour to wishing also well to his Person both as men fearing God and eschewing Vice and Wickedness being subject to the Power for Conscience sake Pr. pag. 50. This Quaker 's Doctrine tends directly to lay the Kings Honour in the Dust to strike the Crown from his Majesty's Head Answ A malicious and slanderous Insinuation to render us obnoxious to the Government for testifying against that Honour of the Hat c. which is from below and against Pride and High-mindedness that seeks it We meddle not with the King or his Crown or any real Honour or Respect that is due to him from Christian Subjects our peaceable Conversations clear us herein § XVIII Pr. Ibid. It may be truly said Beware of the Quakers for like the Jesuited Papists they are not in Truth the King 's Loyal Subjects Answ Thou lovest Lying rather than to speak Righteousness thou lovest all devouring words O thou Deceitful Tongue God shall likewise destroy thee forever he shall take thee away and pluck thee out of thy Dwelling-place and root thee out of the Land of the Living Psalm 52.3 4 5. O thou Lying Priest O thou Malicious Incendiary Thou art the Person that lovest Devouring Words Consider thy End from the fore-cited Scripture If thou Repentest not God will Debase
Spirits who further manifests his Folly and Ignorance in his Discant or Paraphrase upon Nicholas Knights Book Entituled A Comparison between the true and false Ministers Printed 1675. After this Priest hath told us that in this Quaking Book the false Ministers of England are thus described and after several Descriptions given of them the Priest cites these following in his pag. 142. which I recite directly as he has done viz. Tythes are only claim'd by false Teachers I ask him where did true Ones or Christ's Ministers ever claim them They deny the Doctrine of Christ enlightning every one with a saving Light and that truly for it is a Quaking falshood They deny the manifestation of the Spirit in all they reproach the true Ministers of the Light and justly because of their Folly They are Persecutors of the Children of Light but the Quakers have no Truth nor Righteousness to be persecuted for They deny that any are made Perfect from all Sin in this Life which they ought to do Observation Observe that these Words within the Crotchets are the Priest own very words wherein first he hath blasphemously charged the Light of Christ who is that true Light which lighteth every man that comes into the World John 1.9 2dly He has reproached the true Ministers of the Light in directly charging them with Folly 3dly He has slandered the Quakers in saying They have no Truth nor Righteousness 4thly He counts it a Duty to deny that any are made Perfect from all Sin in this Life herein he has justified the false Teachers against Christs Doctirne and Work who taught his to be Perfect and is come throughly to purge his Floor to sanctifie wash and cleanse his Church and People that there may be no spot in his Spouse But this work of Christ the false Teacher denyes he says they ought to deny it The Lord deliver People from such blind Guides § XXVIII Pr. p. 101. You see that the Quakers are accused justly for asserting a perfect freedom from all Sin on Earth of this false Doctrine this Quaker is a sorry Champion Answ Such a freedom from Sin must be on Earth or never there is no Purgatory after Death and no unclean thing shall enter into Gods Kingdom If we walk in the Light as he is in the Light we have fellowship one with another and the Blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanses us from all Sin 1 John 1.7 Unto him that loved us and washed us from our Sins in his own Blood Rev. 1.5 Blessed are the Undefiled in the way who walk in the Law of the Lord Psal 119.1 They also do no Iniquity ver 3. And this was on Earth therefore no false Doctrine Pr. Ibid. Nothing less than a perfect freedom from all Sin on Earth was the End and Aim of Redemption by Jesus Christ to deny a perfect Freedom from all Sin in this Life is according to this Quaker to make Christ only a part of a Redeemer and to establish a middle way betwixt Earth and Heaven in which to be made free from Sin Answ Our Saviour Jesus Christ gave himself for us that he might redeem us from ALL Iniquity and Purifie unto himself a peculiar People Zealous of good Works Tit. 2.14 By one Offering he hath perfected forever them that are Sanctified Heb. 10.14 This was the End and Aim of Redemption by Jesus Christ who therefore is not only a Redeemer in part but wholly wherefore to deny such freedom from all Sin in this Life is to suppose Christ only a Redeemer in part some middle place to be freed from Sin in after Death Pr. Ibid. To assert this great Truth that there is no perfect freedom from Sin to be attained to in this Life is as the Quaker doth basely speak a great Delusion of the Devil Answ 'T is a great delusion of the Devil to assert that there is no perfect freedom from all Sin to be attained in this Life and contrary to Scripture-Testimonies before cited Pr. p. 102. That if they lay hold on him by Faith their Sins shall not be imputed to them though they Sin daily that the Righteous man sins seven times a day Answ Here he hath accused true Believers and the Righteous man without exception both with sinning daily and sinning seven times a day such a Champion is this Priest for Satans Kingdom against the Righteous for which he has no rule in Scripture that we know that saith The Righteous man sins seven times a day but that a Just man falls seven times and rises up again Prov. 24.16 Here 's neither sinning nor day mention'd he may fall so often into Trouble Affliction and Suffering Psal 56.1 and not into Sin and rise up again out of his Troubles The Lord knows the dayes of the Upright and their Inheritance shall be forever Psal 37.18 Also in Zachariah's Prophecy of Christ and his Salvation he saith That we being delivered out of the Hands of our Enemies might serve him without fear in Holiness and Righteousness before him all the dayes of our Life Luke 1.74 75. And thy Testimonies are very sure Holiness becometh thine House O Lord forever or to length of days Psal 93.5 Pr. Ibid. That their Sins shall not be imputed to them that believe in Christ though they sin daily Answ Sinning daily is neither consistent with true Faith in Christ nor with the estate of the Righteous and blessed of the Lord to whom Sin shall not be Imputed see Psal 32.1 2. Blessed is he whose Transgression is forgiven whose Sin is covered Blessed is the Man unto whom the Lord imputeth not Iniquity and in whose Spirit there is NO GVILE unto which the Apostle refers Rom. 4.6 7 8. Pr. Ibid. That the Righteous man doth sin often in one day that the Holy men of God have sinned that do deny a perfect freedom from all Sin attainable in this Life Answ His Charge against the Righteous man without exception is refuted before as contrary to Scripture and indeed 't is Antichristian Sin pleasing and Impious thus to plead for Sin against the Righteous and 't is a great aggravation of this Impiety to accuse the Holy men of God with denying a perfect freedom from all Sin to be attainable in this Life Come Priest thou that say'st The Scripture is thy only Rule produce us plain Scripture to prove this thy Charge which is general against the Holy men of God where ever they denyed such a freedom from all Sin to be attainable in this Life either bring us Scripture-proof for this or else forever be silent and deceive the People no longer Pr. Ibid. To speak this Quaker's mind without being perfectly cleansed from all Sin no man can witness Christ to be his Redeemer nor that he is come to destroy the Works of the Devil nor can he witness that Christ is come to redeem him Answ The Priest hath here utter'd his own mistake and not the Quaker's mind For every true
6 7 10 12. Pr. Art 10. We Q. do believe that Jesus our Saviour is not the Son of Mary nor the Son of the Substance of the Father Answ These are both Gross Lyes the point is cleared before We never denyed but alway believed Jesus our Saviour as Miraculously conceived by the holy Ghost overshadowing the Virgin Mary and born of her As also we never denyed but ever believed him as he is the Eternal Son of God to be of his Fathers Substance § 13. Pr. Art Ibid. That Mary is not the Mother of God its Popery to call Mary the Mother of God Answ This he has set down as part of the Qrs. Unsound Faith and therefore his Faith is That Mary is the Mother of God 't is not Popery to call Mary the Mother of God The rest of the Forgeries in this Article are answered before § 13. Pr. Art 12. We Q. do believe that Deliverance from Condemnation is not by believing in Christ who dyed to save Sinners by his Blood but by obeying the Light within Answ This is a Gross Perversion and Forgery again Christ and his Light within are not to be divided in the matter of Faith or Salvation We never opposed Christ who dyed for Sinners or Faith in his Name by believing or in obeying his Light within For he that believes and walks in his Light believes in his Name and thereby partakes of the Fruit of his Death and Blood to cleanse from all Sin § 14. Pr. Art 14. We Q. do believe that there is no Knowledge of any Truth to be gotten by the Scripture Answ Here is a Falshood and Perversion again for we do believe that a Knowledge of some Truths may be gotten by the Scripture and more especially through the Blessing of God enlightening the Vnderstanding in the serious reading the Scripture but no saving Knowledge is gotten by the Scripture alone without the Blessing of God by his Spirit enlightening the Understanding § 14 15. Pr. Art 29 30. We Q. do believe that there is no outward Civil Honour due to the King to Magistrates and Men in Authority or any others Answ False again 't was never an Article of the Qrs. Faith we have fully exprest the contrary even upon outward and Civil Accounts as in paying our Taxes Customs and Duties and actually submitting to Authority as Christians in all cases consistent with the Peace of our Consciences and passively in suffering in cases wherein we could not be active for Conscience sake But it is the Hat and Knee Honour Bowing Creeping and Cringing Flattering Titles and Complements which this Priest is doting upon 't is not the substantial Honour Dignity Estimation or Reverence that his Contest is for but what 's meerly Complemental and pleasing to the fleshly Mind and Pride of Man § 17. Pr. Art 47. We Q. do believe that all Lords Ladies Knight● Gentlemen and Gentlewomen Young and Old Rich and Poor c. who are no Qrs. are the Children of the Devil Fruitless Trees for the Fire to be cast into the Lake that there they must lie for evermore c. Answ His Falshood and Knavery herein is sufficiently detected before in his leaving out the general Conditions of Mercy and Salvation proposed to the Wicked viz. Repentance Fersaking their Iniquities c. without which they are liable to Destruction and Misery which are in their way see Sect. 24. 'T is a plain Lying Forgery to make their being No Qrs. the Condition of their Destruction as if we should condemn all to utter Destruction who are not formally Qrs. so called We never went about thus to confine the Mercy of God For there are both Thousands of Infants that dye Innocent as also many Thousands of Persons that have a Degree of Innocency being free from Envy and Malice against us and others and many in Dark Times and Dispensations that having a Secret Sincerity in their Hearts to God who never were Reputed Quakers nor formally gathered into an outward Society with us that yet may and do find Mercy and partake of the common Salvation tendred in Christ Jesus to Mankind But No Fallen Sinful or Poluted Man or Woman can find Salvation without Repentance or Inward Conversion by the Grace of God that has appeared to all men that they may be taught to deny Ungodliness and Worldly Lusts § 31. But now more briefly to sum up and recite some more of the Priests Lyes Wicked Forgeries and Falshoods in others of his Articles I shall thus proceed Art 54. That there are no Right Magistrates but Qrs. and such Quaking Magistrates c. This is a Knavish and Idle Forgery § 25 26. Art 54. That not Thouing one another is a Damning Sin is a Lying Forgery again § 17 26. Ibid. That all Superiority Nobility Honour Breeding c. are under the Curse of God is a Perverse Lye Ibid. That there is no true Nobility true Gentility but in us Qrs. that Honour is only due to us Qrs. These are Knavish Forgeries still § 26. Ibid. That any of us despised Qrs. is more Noble than either King or any Nobles after the Flesh because of the Noble Seed in us No Article of the Qrs. Faith but the Priests Forgery Ibid. That all Noble men Gentlemen Superiours Men of Honour Breeding c. are Bastards An Odious Forgery to render us Odious See § 17 18. Art 58. We Q. do believe that it is the Devil who tells men that Christ dyed for all This is a Horrid Lye Wicked Slander and Most Abominable Forgery for that Christ dyed for all men we have alwayes believed and owned as testified by his Spirit in his holy Apostles and Scriptures § 9 10. Art 59. That they who said they believed that that was the Christ who dyed at Jerusalem and that he dyed for their Sins and rose again and sitteth at the Right Hand of God were no Christians in Truth This again is a Wicked Perversion and Falshood and also a Curtailing of J. Parnel's words as the Priest has more at large cited them pag. 105 106. as if the Qr. denyed these things relating to Christ whereas 't is spoken of such false Christians as had the History or Profession of Christ but were not in the true Knowledge of God or Christ but under Anti-christ's Reign yet under a Gospel Profession looking at God as a God afar off only and sotting up Idols Temples False Teachers Hirelings c. § 26. Art 66. That to know God according to the Scripture is no true Knowledge of him This is a gross Lye and Forgery again for truly to know God by the Revelation of his Son is according to Scripture though given by Christ § 14 15. Art 72. That all true Quakers have the same Gift of the H. Ghost or gift of Miracles that the Apostles had The last is a gros Lye for though true Quakers confess and own a partaking of the Gift of the holy Ghost yet pretend not the