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then_o take_v heed_n fear_v and_o tremble_v to_o change_v scripture_n phrase_n at_o your_o pleasure_n for_o your_o own_o end_n take_v that_o first_o which_o be_v and_o must_v be_v last_o you_o may_v upon_o this_o very_a account_n turn_v out_o and_o contradict_v all_o the_o most_o precious_a truth_n of_o god_n in_o scripture_n and_o this_o very_a thing_n strike_v at_o it_o for_o the_o reason_n why_o teach_v discipling_n and_o faith_n be_v to_o precede_v baptism_n be_v evident_a that_o it_o be_v because_o its_o christ_n appointment_n and_o there_o be_v a_o necessity_n that_o faith_n go_v before_o work_n for_o there_o be_v no_o work_n acceptable_a before_o or_o without_o faith_n but_o thomas_n hall_n will_v have_v work_n go_v before_o faith_n baptism_n before_o faith_n though_o christ_n have_v say_v the_o contrary_a and_o so_o make_v void_a the_o law_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n lay_v another_o foundation_n work_v before_o faith_n baptism_n before_o believe_v and_o 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answer_v this_o command_n they_o never_o baptize_v any_o in_o the_o nation_n but_o disciple_n and_o this_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d disciple_n all_o nation_n hold_v forth_o the_o break_n down_o of_o that_o middle_a wall_n of_o partition_n and_o so_o the_o go_v forth_o of_o the_o gospel_n to_o the_o gentile_n for_o so_o that_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v gentile_n as_o well_o as_o nation_n and_o it_o intend_v not_o all_o nation_n viz._n every_o one_o in_o the_o nation_n but_o all_o that_o believe_v and_o become_v disciple_n in_o the_o nation_n act._n 10._o 35._o in_o every_o nation_n he_o that_o fear_v god_n and_o work_v righteousness_n shall_v be_v accept_v now_o where_o be_v your_o command_n sir_n for_o your_o practice_n so_o much_o plead_v for_o for_o you_o confess_v pa._n 28._o that_o this_o place_n speak_v proper_o of_o the_o order_n prescribe_v for_o conversion_n of_o heathen_n that_o be_v adult_n then_o you_o have_v no_o command_n in_o this_o 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the_o law_n of_o christ_n and_o a_o necessity_n to_o make_v they_o hypocrite_n etc._n etc._n you_o say_v there_o be_v a_o teach_n after_o baptise_v mat._n 28._o 20._o a_o teach_v before_o and_o after_o and_o that_o baptise_v be_v set_v in_o the_o middle_n imply_v that_o some_o must_v be_v teach_v before_o viz._n heathen_n some_o after_n viz._n infant_n of_o believer_n but_o you_o be_v much_o mistake_v in_o the_o second_o but_o it_o impli_v that_o there_o be_v a_o teach_n before_o for_o the_o work_n of_o faith_n and_o a_o teach_n after_o for_o the_o building_n they_o up_o in_o the_o same_o faith_n for_o that_o end_n god_n have_v appoint_v prophet_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n in_o the_o church_n and_o those_o act_n 2._o 41._o that_o be_v baptize_v ver_fw-la 42._o continue_v steadfast_a in_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o this_o be_v the_o teach_n before_o and_o after_o baptism_n there_o intend_v you_o confess_v page_n 31._o notwithstanding_o your_o bold_a assertion_n 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〈◊〉_d to_o plunge_v over_o head_n and_o ear_n be_v another_o etc._n etc._n answ_n it_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o for_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o dip_v as_o yourself_o confess_v pag._n 113._o though_o not_o only_o to_o dip_v you_o say_v the_o primitive_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v four_o several_a signification_n 1._o to_o drown_v plunge_v or_o overwhelm_v 2._o to_o die_v or_o dip_v 3._o to_o moisten_v or_o make_v wet_a 4._o to_o wash_v or_o cleanse_v note_v 1_o it_o do_v not_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n signify_v to_o sprinkle_v you_o have_v say_v enough_o to_o satisfy_v any_o that_o desire_v satisfaction_n in_o this_o particular_a that_o your_o practice_n of_o sprinkle_v be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o in_o truth_n sprinkle_v be_v another_o word_n and_o another_o thing_n then_o baptise_v rantizo_n be_v the_o greek_a word_n for_o sprinkle_v and_o baptizo_fw-la from_o bapto_n be_v the_o greek_a word_n for_o 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