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A91468 Goliahs head cut off with his own sword; in a combat betwixt little David, the young stripling, who stands in the power and strength of his God, and great Goliah the proud boaster, who stands in his own strength, glorifying in the arm of flesh, and contemning and despising little David, because of his youth. In a reply to a book, set forth by an un-named author, under pretence of an answer to thirty six queries, propounded by James Parnell, whom he in scorn calls, the young Quaker. And also an answer to severall counter-queries, propounded by the same unnamed authour, whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton, a teacher of the world, at Abbey Rippon, in Huntingtonshire, ... and also he that takes his part, who writes himself W.P. who knowes not the power of God, and therefore glories in the length of time, and the multitude of years. ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the armies of the aliens, who muster up themselves against the Lord, and his authority: by a friend to the common-wealth of Israel, who is known to the world, by the name James Parnel. Who is a sufferer in outward bonds, for the testimony of the everlasting truth, in Colchester Castle. 1655. Parnell, James, 1637?-1656. 1655 (1655) Wing P531; Thomason E861_1; ESTC R203310 65,568 94

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or the Church in their dayes who were men that coveted no mans Silver nor Gold nor apparrell but had forsaked all for the Gospels sake and many of the Church suffered the spoiling of their goods willingly by your fore-Fathers the cheife Priests and Scribes and Pharises who was their persecutors as you are now of them who the Gospel do own Act. 20.33 Heb. 10.34 and your professors also who as thou saist doth not rightly value spirituall things such as are holden forth by the true Ministers and Messengers of God neither can because by such blind guides as thou art they are kept in blindnesse and darknesse least their eies should be opened and they come to see you and decline from you who was never tied to you by any command of God and therefore you are glad to make use of a law of man contrary to the practise of Christ and his Apostles and as for the expresse provision which the Lord made for his Ministers and Messengers in the new Testament I reply When Christ gave them their Commission he said also in whatsoever house they entered they was to eate such as was set before them for saith he the workman is worthy of his meate and this is all the expresse provision that thou canst find allotted to them in the new Testament and this was without any law of man too for there was no need of any for if they did not willingly receive them they was not to eate with them but to shake of the dust of their feete against them and that was all the law they was to take against such which was earthly minded and regardlesse of them but this will not serve you because your selves are earthly minded and therefore will have it of every one whether they receive you yea or nay or else you have a law of man to take treble damage and instead of eating such as they will set before you you will have the tenth part of what they have by compulsion you are such greedy devouring Woolvs and what was before allotted to the Priests in the old Testament is before sufficiently proved to be nothing concerning you who professe your selves Ministers of the New Testament and as for those Scriptures which thou quotes in 2 Chron. 31.5 6. c are also as nothing to my Query but are before answered in my last reply but yet these shall stand to witnesse against thee to be a liar for let any who reades these verses see if there the Isralites did shew any earthly mindednesse or stood in need of a law to compel them after they knew the Kings mind as thou accusest them and thus thou canst find nothing either in the Old or New Testament that will cover thy deceipt but altogether witnesse against thee and therefore againe thou flees into thy old shelter which is the will of man by which thou art set up and upheld therefore a false Prophet and a deceiver who abides not in the doctrine of Christ and it is no Pious nor Just act for them as I said before to take away the fruits of their subjects labours by a compulsive law to give unto such Earth-wormes as thee who cares not how you get it so you get it as thy own mouth confessest for thou saist it is a competent though not a liberall maintenance and yet thou canst take it and plead for it too yea and of worldly minded people which is altogether contrary to the Apostles practise and so thou fullfills the wordes which before I have spoken of thee and whosoever denies you of Tithes do not unjustly detaine them as thou saist they do being you have no right to them by any law or command from God or example in the Scripture as before is proved but only claimes a Title by the unjust supremacy of the Pope by which your fore-Fathers the persecuting Bishops was upheld and therefore we called Quakers do teach people them you to deny which is not contrary to the practice of Christ or his Apostles as thou accusest us for saith Christ Beware of false-Prophets that appeare in sheeps clothing Mat. 7.15.16 but inwardly ravening Woolves by their fruits they are knowne and by which sufficiently you are here marked our and the Apostles bids from such turne away as in 2 Tim. 3.5 and againe the Apostle John forbids to receive such as abides not in the doctrine of Christ or to bid them God speed 2 Joh. 9.10 and here both Christ and his Apostles sufficiently taught people to deny you and here thou art proved a lier who thus falsely accusest us called Quakers in this to act contrary to the practice of Christ or his Apostles and so here thou and the rest of the professed Ministers of this Nation are sufficiently manifest what you are so that all men may see your folly and deceipt but those who are blind and love to have it so and so the Scripture is fulfilled upon you Jer. 5.30.31 Whether ever the Ministers of the Gospel tooke any necessaries of the world 12 Que. as thou and such as thou doth all your Tithes and maintenance yea or nay And in thy Answer thou saist yea they have P. Ans which to prove thou quotes Ast. 28.1.9 where thou saist Paul tooke necessaries of the Barbarians yet this not serving thy turne thou runs to old Histories which thou calls Ecclesiasticall records and saith they for 1500 yeares doe testify the same but yet doubting of this thou saist as thou said before it sufficeth you that there is no law nor command of God to the contrary nor are examples thou saist needfull for every thing as to prove that Christ called any shooemaker or cobler to be a Prophet Reply But here againe thou hast marked out thy selfe to be a false Prophet who runs and the Lord never sent thee and therefore thou teachest for Doctrine the traditions of men for the which thou hast no Scripture therefore runs to old stories to which I am not to give any credit be they never so old being they are not according to Scripture and therefore not Ecclesiasticall for the oldnesse of the thing doth not make it truth though you haue long thereby deceived the ignorant And as for that Scripture which thou quotest in Acts 28.1.9 then Paul was a Prisoner and he and the Souldiers that kept him and the rest of the people was driven there by storm upon the Sea so that in that cause the Barbarians took pitty of them and received them but there was many besides Paul and the Centurion to whom Paul was committed was to take care of him and also that which the Barbarians did was freely and that which nature bound them to being they was in that strait which was done to many besides Paul who were heathen so that this doth not at all stand for thee who art in thy own Country and yet takes all thy Tithes and maintenance of the World by compulsion neither will
GOLIAHS HEAD Cut off with his own Sword In a Combat betwixt little David The young Stripling who stands in the power and strength of his God and great Goliah the proud Boaster who stands in his own strength glorifying in the arm of flesh and contemning and despising little David because of his youth In a Reply to a Book set forth by an un-named Author under pretence of an Answer to thirty six Queries propounded by James Parnell whom he in scorn calls the young Quaker And also an Answer to severall Counter-Queries propounded by the same unnamed Authour whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton A Teacher of the World at Abbey Rippon in Huntingtonshire wherein his folly and ignorance is much layd open and the pride and deceipt of his spirit much manifested And also he that takes his part who writes himself W. P. who knowes not the power of God and therefore glories in the Length of time and the multitude of years But Solomon who was a wiser man then great Goliah said that the honourable age is not that which is of long time neither that which is measured by the Number of years but wisdom is the gray hair and an undefiled life is old Age. And therefore let not the wise man glory in his wisdom nor the strong man glory in his strength for it is vanity Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the Armies of the Aliens who muster up themselves against the Lord and his Authority by a friend to the Common-wealth of Israel who is known to the World by the name James Parnel Who is a sufferer in outward bonds for the testimony of the everlasting truth in Colchester Castle 1655. London Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. The Title of the aforesaid Book An Answer according to truth that trembles not nor quakes nor quaileth given to thirty six Queries propounded by James Parnell commonly called the young Quaker to an ancient Country Minister with some Counter-Queries by the said Minister unto the said young Quack and his fellows HEre thou mayst be ashamed to stile thy selfe an ancient Minister Reply Heb. 12.21 Jer. 23.9 Job 4.14 Ezek. 12.10 who manifests such an Ishmaels spirit who with reproachfull words makes a scoffe at the power of truth which the Ministers of God in all ages witnessed which made them to quake and tremble And though the truth neither quake nor quaileth yet all that owned the truth owned and witnessed quaking and trembling which truth thou manifests thy selfe but a professor of and a stranger to the power and a despiser thereof and therefore out from among the Ministers of Christ thou art raised Eccles 12.3 And thy Answer is not according to truth but a Lie as shall further be made to appear hereafter by him whom thou calls the young Quack and it seems fear surpriseth the heart of the Hypocrite P F. 22.14 15. Priest so that thou art ashamed to own thy work with thy name And whereas thou sayst Courteous Reader we are forced notwithstanding so many Pāphlets extant against the people called Quakers to give answer to thirty six Queries of James Parnells the young Quaker Although thou hast boasted thy selfe an ancient Minister Rep. and contemns me as a young Boy yet here it appears that thou art glad of others to help thee to answer my Queries as these words before mentioned doth testifie And yet it is but a Pamphlet as thou and thy helpers do confess that those many are that are extant against the people called Quakers And then thou run on in way of reproach and scorn against me because of my youth but the wisdom of Solomon answereth you That a poor and wise Child is better then an old foolish King who will no more be admonished Eccles 4.13 And therefore when you think of your age consider also your folly and let that stop your mouthes from professing your selves Ancients who manifests such a Light scornful spirit and hates to be reformed And whereas thou sayst thou doubtest not Priest but his Queries are the dictates of others deceiving and being deceived which they yet put under the Boyes name for the Credit of their cause Here also without doubt Rep. thy unbelieving heart is manifested who without ground measurest others according to thine own heart who because thou makest use of the dictates of others as here doth plainly appear therefore censurest others which doth not adde credit to thy cause because thou boasts of thy age But according as thou believes Priest so be it to thee yet nevertheless thou shalt finde that the truth I shall maintain against thee who with thy unbelieving heart art deceiving and being deceived and then thou runs on in the pride of thy spirit accusing of me to be ignorant of the truth of God because as thou sayst Priest of the false wording of my Queries But with shame might thou speak it Rep. for openly hast thou manifested to the understanding Reader thy selfe to be a meer stranger both to God and his truth also who would limit the truth of God to a humane art which many of the Children of God had not Act. 4.13 and therefore the power of God was the more manifested And when Peter and John was brought before the learned men to wit the chief Priests and the Rulers and they wondered at them because they perceived they was unlearned men and thus with thy wisdom and thy great learning thou art shut out of the truth in the naturall but by this I do not own thy accusation to be truth against me for I have a Copy of the Queries of my own hand writing which was the originall of those that was sent to thee which will bear testimony against thee to be a false accuser and how thou thy selfe hast wronged them and misworded them because they was in the crosse unto thy wisdom And to maintain this thou bringest a story in Erasmus nevertheless the story which thou bringest doth not at all touch me but may fitly be returned into thy new bosom where it shall lie Then thou and thy Agent beseeches the Reader to read without partiality which if he do he will judge no otherwise of you then as I have declared but will see how you have uttered forth your folly and foamed out your shame in going about to contradict the truth And at the end of this your Epistle to the Reader I finde W. P. which I judge to be one of thy Agents to this your shamefull work to which thou darst not own thy name My first Querie Where 1 Qu P An. and how and by what wast thou called to the Ministry which thou professest And in thy answer to this Querie thou goest about to plead many excuses whereby to fly the answering of my Queries saying it is easier for him that is yet in
the earthly honour as may be all which Christ declared against to the Pharisees and judged them to be in the unbelief in whose steps ye are found and therefore in the unbelief also neither doth any such earthly honour belong to any vertue or grace John 5.4 42 43 44 Act. 26.31 32. Ast. 24.5 Act. 22.22 for Christ hath declared against it but they that honour God them will God honour neither doth any of these Scriptures which thou hast quoted justifie the respect of persons which the Apostle declared against in James 2. neither did Paul respect the person of Festus when he called him Noble Festus for in that he did not adore his person nor bow to nor worship it but Festus did that which was noble towards Paul and judged him not worthy to suffer bonds according to their Law which few of the Rulers of these dayes will do but rather will wrest and pervert their Law to their own wills to persecute those that now are in Pauls condition and guided by Pauls spirit and such they now call pestilent fellows and raisers of sedition and adjudge them not worthy to live amongst men though they have nothing more against them than the Heathen had against Paul and notwithstanding all this doth not justifie your adoring worshipping and respecting mens person having them in admiration for advantage sake yea though wicked corrupt men though you do not see it because the gift blindes your eye for they that are proud and persecuters are wicked and corrupt and by such you are set up upheld and maintained and therefore adore and worship their persons having them in admiration because of this advantage but the poor Saints are both by you and them persecuted and despised and you joyn together against them because they cannot worship the Beast and his Image as you do Rev. 13.8 and thus out of thy own mouth art thou judged and that Scripture which thou quotest in James 2. will witness against thee and that also in Exod. 23. for it is well known that you professed Ministers have been the greatest actors ever in stirring up the Rulers to persecute the innocent yea any in whom the appearance of God was manifested in testimony against your deceitful wayes and the Rulers through favour and respect to you have and do act in their corrupt wills contrary to all Law or equity against such and have oppressed the strangers as Vagabonds and idle fellows though the Law of the Nation allow them liberty being free-born in it which to this day is witnessed in divers places of the Nation which that of God in your Consciences will also witnes such as those deserves neither honor nor respect but must perish in their iniquity but in thou accused us to deny deserved honour and respect to be lawful is a very falshood for we honour and respect Justice grace ertue and all goodnesse in our hearts but you that are blind put injustice for justice and evill for good and turn the grace of God into laciviousness Isa 5.20 Qu. 33. Jude 4. Wilt thou own trembling and quaking now yea on nay And in thy Answer P. Ans thou seems to own it in words also stealing others expressions out of the Scripture to answer my Query but thy life doth not steal it neither dost thou own it where it is witnessed but makes a scoffe at it as before is proved and thy ignorance of the same may easily be discerned in this thy Answer by any who have tasted of the power of God who are come to the earths trembling and quaking and whereas thou denies to tremble and shake as John Gilpin and others did comparing them with the man possessed with the unclean spirit in Mark 9.20 and to be a Quaker alwayes thou deniest Thou never wast a true Quaker yet Reply as may easily be discerned by this thy discourse of it who judgest by Reports and compares the power of God unto an unclean spirit which power made the Devills to tremble in John Gilpin unto which thou art not yet come though John Gilpin from that departed and followed the deceipt and so was led into deep deceipt and Imitation and so gave occasion to such as thee who wait for occasion to blaspheme the truth and speak evil of the things thou knowest nothing of but by Reports which if the true fear of God was in thy heart placed thou durst not do therefore thou and John Gilpin shall receive your reward where thou shalt quake for ever if thou dost not speedily repent and own the truth which in thy conscience is witnessed but those others of ours whom thou accusest thou dost not nominate and therefore accusest thou knowest not who but any such foaming at the mouth and the like which thou here speaks of we do deny and returns it into thy own bosom who art foaming out thy own shame What is the pure Religion and whether in it thou dwellest 34. Qu. And in thy Answer thou hast nothing to say P. Ans but what thou stealest out of the Scripture from their experience who spoke it forth and thou quotest that in James 1.27 which saith the pure Religion and undefiled before God is this to visit the Widdows and fatherless in their affliction and to keep themselves unspotted of the world and thou also quotest that in Mat. 23.33.38.39 40. and saith It is to love the Lord our God with all our hearts minde and might and our Neighbour as our selves and in this Religion thou sayst thou desirest to dwell and walk and remain for ever without being shaken But thou must be much shaken before thou comest into this Religion for thou hast not yet proved Reply that thou art yet in it but these Scriptures which thou hast here quoted will witness against thee to be a stranger to it though it is an easie thing for to set down others Declarations when they are before thee but how dost thou keep thy selfe unspotted of the world when as thou art drowned in and art so greedy of it that thou carest not how thou gettest it so thou gettest it as before is sufficiently proved out of thy own mouth and hast been all along labouring contrary to Scripture to justifie thy taking of gifts and Rewards of the world and how dost thou visit the Widdows and fatherless unless it be for thy Tithes or that they have to maintain thee and so rather to add affliction upon them or what dost thou do in this kinde but thou hast a selfe-end in it let that in thy Conscience judge thee and if thou didst love the Lord God with all thy heart thou wouldst not have thy heart so in the earth thus to delude and deceive peoples souls for gain and lucre and to take away the fruits of their labours by compulsion if they will not give it thee though thou dost nothing for them as before is proved against thee to thy shame and