Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	according_a	scripture_n	spirit_n	3,143	5	5.2045	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A33770	Theophilus and Philodoxus, or, Several conferences between two friends the one a true son of the Church of England, the other faln off to the Church of Rome, concerning 1. praier in an unknown tongue, 2. the half communion, 3. the worshipping of images, 4. the invocation of saints / by Gilbert Coles.	Coles, Gilbert, 1617-1676.	1674 (1674)	Wing C5085; ESTC R27900	233,018	224

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peccata_fw-la proof_n qui_fw-la proprio_fw-la sanguine_fw-la laverunt_fw-la si_fw-la qua_fw-la habuerunt_fw-la peccata_fw-la the_o martyr_n if_o they_o have_v any_o sin_n have_v wash_v they_o away_o with_o their_o own_o blood_n the_o bless_a apostle_n tell_v we_o 1_o joh._n 1._o the_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n cleanse_v from_o all_o unrighteousness_n immediate_o before_o these_o word_n which_o bellarmin_n quote_v s._n ambrose_n have_v this_o passage_n vestigium_fw-la passage_n infirma_fw-la est_fw-la caro_fw-la mens_fw-la aegra_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la medici_n sedem_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la debile_a explicare_fw-la vestigium_fw-la the_o flesh_n be_v weak_a the_o mind_n sick_a and_o feter_v with_o the_o chain_n of_o sin_n and_o so_o we_o can_v creep_v to_o the_o physician_n but_o must_v call_v upon_o the_o angel_n and_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n where_o do_v you_o read_v in_o h._n scripture_n that_o the_o sick_a to_o wit_n the_o sinner_n can_v come_v to_o christ_n the_o physician_n do_v he_o not_o come_v to_o call_v sinner_n to_o invite_v the_o weary_a and_o heavy_a lade_v to_o come_v to_o he_o and_o find_v rest_n you_o shall_v hear_v other_o father_n general_o contradict_v this_o doctrine_n of_o ambrose_n and_o the_o holy_a scripture_n much_o more_o yet_o this_o be_v the_o usual_a pretence_n for_o saint_n invocation_n and_o intercession_n that_o we_o be_v unworthy_a of_o ourselves_o to_o draw_v near_o to_o a_o holy_a god_n &_o to_o put_v up_o our_o supplication_n to_o he_o of_o which_o more_o hereafter_o &_o herein_o s._n ambrose_n contradict_v what_o he_o have_v pious_o commented_a upon_o the_o first_o chap._n of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o rom._n in_o the_o 4_o chap._n of_o his_o commentary_n reg._n commentary_n solent_n miserâ_fw-la uti_fw-la excusatione_fw-la per_fw-la istos_fw-la posse_fw-la ire_n ad_fw-la deum_fw-la ut_fw-la per_fw-la comites_fw-la ad_fw-la reg._n this_o be_v the_o miserable_a excuse_n say_v he_o that_o by_o angel_n and_o saint_n we_o may_v have_v access_n to_o god_n be_v unworthy_a of_o ourselves_o to_o come_v unto_o he_o as_o we_o go_v to_o the_o king_n by_o his_o courtier_n for_o which_o he_o answer_v devotâ_fw-la answer_v ideo_fw-la per_fw-la tribunos_fw-la &_o comites_fw-la itur_fw-la ad_fw-la regem_fw-la quia_fw-la homo_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n ad_fw-la deum_fw-la a._n promerendum_fw-la qui_fw-la omnium_fw-la novit_fw-la merita_fw-la suffragatore_fw-la opus_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la ment_fw-la devotâ_fw-la therefore_o we_o come_v to_o the_o king_n by_o his_o tribune_n and_o officer_n because_o the_o king_n be_v a_o man_n and_o must_v receive_v information_n from_o other_o but_o to_o obtain_v the_o favour_n of_o god_n who_o know_v all_o man_n desert_n we_o need_v no_o suffragant_n but_o a_o devout_a mind_n whensoever_o such_o a_o one_o call_v upon_o he_o he_o will_v answer_v he_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o direct_o oppose_v to_o your_o usual_a plea_n for_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n the_o same_o father_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr isaac_n &_o anima_fw-la cap._n 5_o tell_v we_o from_o the_o three_o chap._n of_o canticle_n and_o the_o three_o vers_fw-la videre_fw-la vers_fw-la anima_fw-la quae_fw-la deum_fw-la quaerit_fw-la transit_fw-la custodes_fw-la enim_fw-la sunt_fw-la mysteria_fw-la quae_fw-la etiam_fw-la ang._n concupiscunt_fw-la videre_fw-la that_o a_o soul_n seek_v god_n pass_v by_o the_o keeper_n for_o there_o be_v mystery_n which_o the_o angel_n themselves_o desire_v to_o look_v into_o phil._n do_v you_o then_o follow_v s._n ambrose_n direction_n in_o one_o place_n and_o i_o will_v take_v his_o advice_n in_o the_o other_o bellarmin_n bring_v the_o testimony_n of_o many_o other_o father_n of_o the_o late_a age_n of_o the_o church_n and_o i_o must_v confess_v i_o be_o almost_o tire_v in_o follow_v he_o especial_o see_v you_o so_o dextrious_o shift_v he_o off_o gregory_n nyssen_n speak_v home_o to_o the_o point_n in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o his_o oration_n opon_n 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have_v now_o conclude_v to_o favour_v you_o and_o not_o overlade_v you_o with_o innumerable_a testimony_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o late_a father_n perhaps_o you_o will_v except_v against_o in_o this_o point_n such_o as_o bede_n and_o anselme_n &_o bernard_n &_o damascene_fw-la &_o the_o elder_n i_o have_v hitherto_o produce_v and_o yet_o there_o remain_v two_o of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o two_o of_o the_o latin_a church_n who_o authority_n i_o will_v urge_v out_o of_o bellarmin_n in_o confirmation_n of_o this_o point_n &_o then_o i_o shall_v give_v you_o respite_n the_o greek_a father_n be_v chrysostome_n and_o theodoret_n the_o latin_a jerom_n and_o augustin_n theoph._n you_o have_v make_v a_o noble_a choice_n &_o herein_o you_o much_o oblige_v i_o whilst_o your_o wisdom_n and_o your_o zeal_n do_v prompt_v you_o to_o urge_v the_o most_o effectual_a testimony_n on_o your_o side_n that_o you_o determine_v to_o let_v the_o other_o pass_v which_o chief_o serve_v to_o fill_v up_o 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warrant_n to_o call_v upon_o