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be_v passage_n page_v 71._o ignorant_o and_o therefore_o desirous_a of_o â—our_n good_a i_o do_v undertake_v according_a to_o my_o small_a ability_n to_o manifest_a â—he_n truth_n unto_o you_o by_o such_o reason_n as_o i_o can_v at_o that_o present_a gather_v for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o same_o which_o see_v you_o make_v so_o small_a account_n of_o and_o answer_v i_o that_o i_o may_v have_v spare_v my_o pain_n and_o save_v myself_o from_o sin_n i_o be_o sorry_a in_o that_o respect_n that_o i_o do_v write_v yet_o in_o regard_n of_o witness_v the_o â—ruth_n and_o perform_v a_o duty_n towards_o a_o brother_n fall_v into_o error_n i_o repent_v â—e_v not_o neither_o yet_o of_o commit_v any_o grevous_a sin_n thereby_o as_o you_o charge_v i_o withal_o see_v i_o plead_v for_o that_o which_o be_v of_o christ_n and_o not_o for_o antichristian_a corruption_n and_o as_o for_o your_o error_n so_o often_o grace_v by_o you_o with_o the_o title_n of_o truth_n which_o you_o say_v you_o never_o 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and_o that_o deceive_a company_n with_o you_o from_o your_o error_n yet_o will_v i_o pray_v still_o that_o god_n may_v open_v your_o eye_n if_o you_o belong_v to_o he_o to_o see_v your_o grevous_a fall_n &_o glorify_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n which_o in_o this_o your_o writing_n so_o great_o you_o have_v disgrace_v now_o i_o will_v come_v to_o answer_v the_o position_n with_o the_o reason_n thereof_o and_o first_o concern_v the_o former_a which_o be_v this_o 1._o that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v touch_v this_o first_o position_n that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v i_o read_v that_o auxentius_n one_o of_o the_o arrian_n sect_n with_o his_o adheâ—nts_n be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o that_o deny_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n &_o 〈◊〉_d after_o he_o pelagius_n the_o heretic_n against_o who_o augustine_n &_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n have_v oppose_v and_o condemn_v for_o heresy_n and_o that_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n which_o by_o god_n grace_n we_o shall_v together_o with_o they_o also_o further_o manifest_a &_o prove_v by_o sound_a reason_n out_o of_o the_o word_n the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v infant_n which_o first_o i_o will_v untertake_v and_o then_o answer_v the_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n mr_n smyth_n now_o in_o the_o next_o place_n you_o make_v a_o special_a preface_n to_o the_o first_o point_n affirm_v thaâ—_n baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v deny_v by_o auxentius_n the_o arrian_n &_o by_o pelagius_n etc._n etc._n rich_a clifton_n i_o say_v that_o auxentius_n the_o arrian_n be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o that_o deny_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n and_o then_o pelagius_n who_o augustine_n and_o other_o refute_v and_o condemn_v for_o heresy_n and_o you_o answer_v thus_o that_o one_o heretic_n condemn_v
the_o faithful_a and_o they_o be_v not_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n yea_o some_o infant_n circumcise_v shall_v be_v type_n as_o the_o carnal_a seed_n of_o abraham_n and_o other_o infant_n circumcise_v as_o well_o as_o they_o to_o wit_n the_o child_n of_o the_o proselyte_n shall_v be_v no_o type_n for_o you_o say_v the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a do_v possess_v the_o place_n of_o the_o typical_a child_n of_o abraham_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n and_o thus_o your_o own_o reason_n agree_v not_o with_o itself_o nor_o you_o with_o the_o truth_n second_o i_o ask_v you_o if_o the_o child_n of_o abraham_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n be_v not_o the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a paul_n say_v *_o that_o all_o our_o father_n be_v under_o the_o cloud_n be_v all_o baptise_a unto_o moses_n and_o do_v all_o eat_v the_o same_o spiritual_a meat_n 5._o 1_o cor._n 10._o â—_o 5._o &_o drink_v the_o same_o spiritual_a drink_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n cap._n 11._o the_o faith_n of_o the_o father_n be_v commend_v and_o after_o the_o enumeration_n of_o many_o particular_n the_o apostle_n say_v all_o these_o through_o faith_n obtain_v good_a report_n which_o scripture_n do_v prove_v that_o the_o infant_n circumcise_a be_v the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a &_o if_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a then_o be_v they_o type_n of_o themselves_o 3._o these_o that_o you_o call_v typical_a child_n of_o abraham_n as_o isaac_n jacob_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o true_a child_n of_o abraham_n heb._n 11._o 9_o all_o the_o posterity_n of_o jacob_n be_v child_n of_o abraham_n after_o the_o flesh_n &_o 44._o &_o rom._n â—_o 16._o 17._o 19_o 20._o 23._o â—_o confer_v wâ—_n gen._n 17._o â—_o 9_o 13._o joâ—_n 44._o son_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o life_n so_o to_o be_v repute_v as_o the_o like_a we_o be_v to_o esteem_v of_o all_o the_o child_n of_o beleeâ—ers_n but_o say_v you_o if_o you_o will_v make_v true_a consequent_n you_o must_v reason_n from_o the_o type_n to_o the_o truth_n and_o not_o from_o the_o type_n to_o the_o type_n neither_o must_v you_o confound_v the_o covenant_n and_o seal_n as_o you_o do_v etc._n etc._n and_o i_o answer_v you_o neither_o must_v you_o devise_v other_o covenant_n and_o seal_n then_o the_o lord_n have_v appoint_v but_o as_o for_o my_o confound_v of_o the_o covenant_n and_o seal_n that_o be_v your_o bare_a affirmation_n and_o what_o you_o have_v say_v for_o establish_v of_o your_o two_o covenant_n or_o testament_n make_v to_o abraham_n &_o for_o your_o carnal_a and_o spiritual_a infant_n be_v answer_v before_o next_o you_o proceed_v to_o examine_v the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequence_n of_o my_o argument_n and_o of_o the_o scripture_n produce_v for_o the_o confirmation_n thereof_o and_o first_o you_o deny_v baptism_n to_o come_v in_o place_n of_o circumcision_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o same_o promise_n to_o we_o and_o our_o seed_n than_o you_o undertake_v to_o prove_v the_o contrary_a say_v that_o the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o hart_n succeed_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcise_n the_o flesh_n rom._n 2._o 29._o and_o circumcision_n make_v without_o hand_n come_v in_o place_n of_o circumcision_n make_v with_o hand_n collos_n 2._o 11._o compare_v with_o ephe._n 2._o 11._o by_o this_o reason_n you_o deny_v the_o father_n before_o christ_n to_o be_v circumcise_v in_o hart_n and_o yet_o to_o they_o as_o well_o as_o unto_o we_o be_v command_v and_o promise_v the_o 30._o the_o deut._n 1â—_n 16._o &_o 30._o circumcision_n of_o the_o hart_n and_o the_o hart_n of_o their_o seed_n as_o before_o be_v show_v and_o they_o have_v the_o grace_n together_o with_o the_o outward_a sign_n &_o therefore_o your_o reason_n be_v insufficient_a and_o the_o scripture_n you_o pervert_v from_o their_o true_a meaning_n towch_v the_o place_n of_o the_o roman_n 2._o 29._o the_o apostle_n have_v convince_v 2d_o rom._n 2d_o the_o jew_n of_o sin_v vers_fw-la 17._o 24._o they_o may_v object_v what_o do_v our_o circumcision_n nothing_o profit_v we_o that_o thou_o equal_a we_o to_o the_o sinner_n of_o the_o gentile_n yea_o say_v he_o if_o thou_o keep_v the_o law_n else_o thy_o circumcision_n be_v make_v uncircumcision_n vers_fw-la 25._o and_o so_o prefer_v uncircumcision_n keep_v the_o law_n before_o circumcision_n transgress_v the_o law_n vers_fw-la 26_o 27._o then_o by_o distinguish_v between_o such_o as_o be_v true_a jew_n and_o hypocrite_n &_o the_o inward_a and_o outward_a circumcision_n show_v who_o be_v a_o true_a jew_n not_o before_o man_n but_o before_o god_n viz_o he_o that_o be_v one_o within_o wherein_o be_v no_o guile_n and_o that_o circumcision_n be_v avaylable_a to_o salvation_n which_o be_v not_o only_o outward_a but_o of_o the_o hart_n this_o be_v the_o apostle_n meaning_n and_o not_o to_o teach_v that_o the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o hart_n succeed_v in_o place_n of_o the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n as_o you_o affirm_v that_o other_o place_n col._n 2._o 11._o make_v no_o more_o to_o your_o purpose_n then_o the_o 11._o â—2_n 11._o former_a for_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o chapter_n deal_v against_o false_a teacher_n that_o urge_v the_o jewish_a religion_n to_o be_v join_v with_o the_o gospel_n in_o this_o verse_n he_o deny_v that_o we_o have_v need_n of_o the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o be_v special_o urge_v see_v we_o be_v inward_o circumcise_v by_o the_o virtue_n of_o christ_n death_n and_o withal_o teach_v that_o our_o baptism_n be_v a_o most_o effectual_a pledge_n seal_n and_o witness_n of_o our_o inward_a renew_v or_o regeneration_n therefore_o have_v baptism_n to_o confirm_v these_o grace_n unto_o they_o need_v not_o the_o use_n of_o outward_a circumcision_n and_o as_o for_o ephe._n 2._o 11._o the_o apostle_n have_v before_o teach_v 11._o â—â—e_z 2._o 11._o that_o they_o be_v save_v by_o grace_n through_o faith_n not_o of_o work_n verse_n 8._o 9_o 10._o appli_v the_o same_o doctrine_n to_o the_o ephesian_n show_v that_o they_o be_v not_o only_o as_o the_o jew_n by_o nature_n corrupt_v but_o also_o after_o a_o especial_a manner_n stranger_n &_o without_o god_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o ought_v so_o much_o the_o rather_o to_o remember_v the_o same_o to_o move_v they_o to_o great_a thankfulness_n and_o thus_o you_o may_v see_v how_o unfit_o you_o have_v allege_v these_o scripture_n and_o circumcision_n the_o seal_n of_o the_o flesh_n have_v the_o holy_a spirit_n of_o promise_n which_o be_v the_o spiritual_a seal_n to_o succeed_v in_o place_n thereof_o ephe._n 1._o 13._o 14._o although_o circumcision_n be_v set_v in_o the_o flesh_n yet_o be_v it_o not_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o flesh_n but_o of_o the_o *_o spiritual_a covenant_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n of_o promise_n succeed_v 11._o ronvere_n 4._o 11._o not_o in_o place_n of_o circumcision_n as_o you_o understand_v it_o for_o the_o believe_a jew_n have_v both_o the_o spirit_n inward_o seal_v up_o unto_o they_o that_o heavenly_a covenant_n of_o salvation_n as_o they_o have_v circumcision_n seal_v the_o same_o outward_o as_o in_o abraham_n isaac_n jacob_n and_o the_o rest_n yea_o the_o spirit_n in_o the_o proselyte_n go_v before_o circumcision_n for_o they_o be_v convert_v be_v after_o circumcise_a abraham_n before_o he_o have_v the_o outward_a seal_n be_v inward_o “_o assure_v by_o the_o 22._o â—om_n 4._o â—_o 21._o 22._o spirit_n and_o confirm_v of_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o promise_n but_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o promise_n succeed_v in_o place_n of_o circumcision_n you_o quote_v ephes_n 1._o 13._o 14._o which_o scripture_n be_v misalledge_v for_o the_o apostle_n intend_v to_o show_v that_o the_o ephesian_n be_v equal_a to_o the_o jew_n because_o they_o be_v call_v by_o the_o same_o gospel_n which_o they_o embrace_v by_o faith_n and_o seal_v up_o by_o the_o same_o spirit_n which_o be_v the_o earnest_n of_o our_o inheritance_n and_o not_o to_o teach_v that_o the_o spirit_n succeed_v circumcision_n again_o the_o spirit_n be_v invisible_a be_v not_o give_v to_o we_o for_o a_o visible_a seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n further_o you_o say_v i_o deny_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o water_n be_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o new_a teâ—stament_n though_o i_o can_v deny_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v a_o seal_n i_o say_v therefore_o that_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o spirit_n must_v go_v before_o the_o baptism_n of_o water_n and_o as_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v spiritual_a and_o yet_o visible_a so_o be_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n spiritual_a and_o yet_o visible_a and_o thereupon_o man_n be_v visible_o seal_v by_o the_o spirit_n as_o cornelius_n company_n be_v act._n 10._o 47._o may_v challenge_v the_o baptism_n with_o water_n as_o peter_n
of_o thy_o seed_n i_o deny_v it_o utter_o god_n say_v that_o only_o to_o abraham_n gen._n 17._o 7._o and_o whether_o you_o expound_v it_o literal_o or_o spiritual_o i_o avouch_v confident_o against_o you_o and_o all_o man_n that_o the_o meaning_n of_o it_o be_v not_o that_o god_n make_v his_o covenant_n with_o the_o faithful_a man_n or_o faithful_a woman_n and_o their_o infooâ—â—s_n beget_v of_o their_o body_n but_o that_o literal_o the_o meaning_n be_v i_o will_v be_v god_n unto_o thou_o abraham_n and_o thy_o seed_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n to_o give_v they_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n gen._n 17._o 8._o and_o spiritual_o the_o meaning_n be_v i_o will_v give_v unto_o abraham_n the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o all_o that_o be_v his_o spiritual_a seed_n everlasting_a life_n you_o deny_v a_o manifest_a truth_n as_o it_o be_v your_o manner_n to_o establish_v your_o heresy_n i_o have_v prove_v already_o that_o the_o spiritual_a covenant_n be_v give_v to_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n as_o it_o be_v to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n and_o further_o confirm_v it_o thus_o 1._o that_o promise_n that_o be_v make_v to_o abraham_n †_o be_v the_o same_o that_o belong_v 14._o gal._n 3._o 14._o to_o all_o the_o faithful_a and_o therefore_o as_o god_n do_v apply_v it_o to_o abraham_n say_v i_o will_v be_v thy_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n so_o be_v it_o to_o be_v apply_v to_o every_o believer_n as_o gen._n 17._o 19_o god_n speak_v of_o isaac_n say_v of_o he_o as_o before_o of_o abraham_n that_o he_o will_v establish_v his_o covenant_n with_o he_o and_o with_o his_o seed_n and_o act._n 2._o 39_o the_o same_o promise_n be_v apply_v to_o the_o jew_n that_o be_v present_a 3._o ex._n 39_o 45_o â—ev_n 26._o 12_o deut._n 29._o â—_o 15._o jer._n â—1_n 1._o 33._o ps_n 44._o 15._o hos_fw-la â—_o 10._o &_o 2._o â—3_n heb._n 8._o â—_o 10._o 2_o cor._n â—_o 16._o rev._n â—1_n 3._o gen._n â—2_n 3._o at_o peter_n preach_v and_o to_o their_o child_n and_o this_o application_n be_v the_o word_n follow_v to_o have_v and_o to_o as_o many_o as_o the_o lord_n god_n shall_v call_v viz._n to_o so_o many_o and_o their_o seed_n second_o if_o the_o covenant_n be_v not_o make_v to_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n then_o be_v not_o the_o faithful_a partaker_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n with_o abraham_n for_o it_o be_v to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n and_o so_o by_o your_o doctrine_n we_o have_v not_o the_o same_o covenant_n and_o gospel_n that_o be_v preach_v to_o abraham_n and_o consequent_o no_o promise_n of_o salvation_n three_o that_o this_o promise_n i_o will_v be_v thy_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n be_v make_v to_o all_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n see_v these_o †_o scripture_n quote_v in_o the_o margin_n last_o the_o apply_v of_o this_o promise_n to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n do_v teach_v we_o so_o to_o apply_v it_o to_o every_o faithful_a man_n and_o his_o seed_n the_o apostle_n thus_o apply_v the_o 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