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A92179 Astrologia accusata pariter & condemnata. Or The diabolical art of judicial astrologie, receiving the definitive sentence of final condemnation: being delivered in this following discourse, where the said art is briefly and manifestly opened, justly arraigned, diligently examined, and experimentally condemned by him, who was a student in the same. / By John Raunce, sometime a practitioner of astrologie, and student in the magick art. Raunce, John, 17th cent. 1650 (1650) Wing R317; Thomason E618_11; ESTC R206349 30,300 42

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is the regarding of times the which regarding of times is superstition and Idolatry Regarding or observing of times the great point in Astrologie NOw in this place I will manifestly declare that which is one of the first and chiefest points in Astrologie and the point is this viz. The regarding or observing of times Now I say that without this point of regarding of times the Astrologers can do nothing in their Art of Astrologie for take from the Art of Astrologie but this one thing viz. The regarding or observing of times and then it will be so poor an Art that the Practitioners thereof will be ashamed to own it for then it will do them no more service neither shall the Astrologers get any more pence by their Art for telling of Fortunes or resolving of horary Questions nor for their making of Elections for take away Regarding of times and then no Astrologer can calculate your Nativity for according to the Rules of Astrologie the very exact time must be known in which the Man or Woman is born before judgement be given by the Astrologer so in like manner it is in questions elections Mr. John Booker and all other parts of Astrologie that this is according to the rules of Astrologie it is very manifest from their own words for that Astrologer Mr. Booker saith plainly thus viz. Aske what you will would you resolved be Observe your time learn your Nativitie But to come more close unto the matter I find that the Astrologers do regard and observe times to be either good or evil to do such or such a thing in because of the Stars and their positions c. for they have planetary days and hours according unto which Planets that then rule and govern Lupton page 107. ex Haly. Abenragel The Astrologers do account the time to be either good or evil for saith one the hour of Mars is to be abhorred in all things both in the beginning and when the thing is done And a little after he saith thus viz. And as I have said of Mars so I say of Saturn for there is never a good of them both meaning their hours Now this regarding of times is Superstition and Idolatry for these Reasons First Gen. 1.31 because God hath not made any thing to be both good and evil for saith Moses God saw every thing that he had made and behold it was very good So that here you may see after God had created all things behold he seeth all things to be very good then from hence I gather thus much that is that the making the Starres and so times according to the Stars and their positions to be evil for such or such a purpose I say that this making of times evil or unfortunate according to Stars and their several positions is not of from nor by the appointment of God The Reason is because the word of God saith the contrary for saith the Scripture God saw all that he had made and behold it was very good So then from this you may see according to the Scripture the hours of Saturn and Mars to be as good for to do any thing in them as in the hours of Jupiter or Venus Also the Moon may be in any of her Mansions and yet you may not fear to do any lawful thing although the Astrologer shall tell you that you have taken an infortunate election to do your operation by reason of the position of the Heavens As also because of the Moon who is in one of her Mansions which position of the Moon in the said Mansion doth signifie the destruction of the thing you have begun or that it shall be marred by this or that means before you can perform the work c. I say that none that fear the true God ought to regard these or any such like heathenish superstitions of the Astrologers because that these things aforesaid are not of Gods own institution but are of mans invention that these things are not of Gods institution it doth evidently appear from and by the Scripture for whatsoever is of Gods institution the Scripture doth bear witness of the same but the Scripture doth bear witness that God made all things good Gen. 1.31 therefore all things are good by and from Gods institution Again whatsoever is by and in the Scripture condemned the same is not of Gods institution but the regarding and observing of times Levit. 19.26 2 Kings 21.6 Deut. 18.10.11 is by and in the Scripture condemned therefore the regarding and observing of times is not of Gods institution The Arguments above written do wholly depend upon the Scripture as you may see for the first Argument whose scope is to prove that all things are good by and from Gods institution is evidently seen to agree with the Scripture and is therefore confirmed by the Scripture as you may see Gen. 1.31 in these words And God saw every thing that he had made and behold it was very good Now the Scripture saith plainly that God made every thing good so then we may now manifestly know that God made all the Stars of Heaven good also according to his word he made all years moneths weeks days and hours to be good then that fantastical opinion of making a difference of days and hours to begin a work in or upon is in very truth an Idolatrous and superstitious Dotage and fiction of the brains of the Astrologers Also the other Argument in which is declared viz. That the regarding and observing of times is not of Gods institution is proved thus because it is condemned by and in the Scripture for you find that Manasseh that great Idolater is in the Scripture reproved for his observing of times among other his Idolatrous practises for saith the Scripture thus of him viz. 2 Kings 21.6 Deut. 18.10 And he made his Sonne pass through the fire and observed times and used Inchantments and dealt with familiar spirits and Wizards c. 2 Kings 21.6 Again in Deut. 18.10 it is said viz. Let none be found among you that useth Divination or is an observer of times or an Inchanter or a Witch c. Also in Levit. 19.26 it is said Ye shall not use Inchantment nor observe times From these places of Scripture it is plainly to be seen That the regarding or observing of times is forbidden to be used and the use of it is condemnen for Idolatry Now then from hence it is apparent that Astrologers are very Idolaters because that they regard times the which regarding of times is in the Scripture condemned In the very like manner it is very apparent to all rational men that Judicial Astrologie is a secret Diabolical Divination I say secret because it is so close and a subtil delusion of the Devil whereby Satan doth delude almost all men at his pleasure and maketh men which believe in this vain delusion viz. Astrologie to think that the Stars of Heaven are
afore by me denied and I have given reasons for my so doing But to the end my Reader may be the better able to judge between me and my Antagonists Therefore I say that the quality of the life and actions of Man cannot be known by the Houses nor from the Stars or signes of Heaven which thing although I have spread abroad sufficient Arguments for the proof of what I have delivered yet nevertheless this I say again that for as much as the 12. Signes as also the 12. Houses of the Astrologers are only imaginary things seigned by the Astrologians therefore I deny that the quality of the life and actions of Man can be known by the Houses or from the 12. Signes of Heaven because that no conceived Idaea which is as it were a substance but is not a real substance in being can represent the humane nature of Man which is a rea substance and hath a visible being wherefore seeing the Houses and Signes cannot truly and really represent the Body of Man in substance form and being Therefore I say that the quality of the life and actions of man cannot be known by the Houses nor yet from the Signes of Heaven for that thing which doth not truly and really in nature represent the very substance form and natural Being of the thing represented cannot in any wise signifie the quality of the being nor yet the nature of the actings of the thing represented from which Argument I infer this conclusion following which is this That for as much as the 12. Houses and Signes do not truly and really represent the very substance form and natural being of Man therefore I say that the quality of the life and actions of Man cannot be known by Mr. Perkins against Witch-craft page 620. nor from the Houses and Signes of Heaven aforesaid Now then in this place to insert something out of the works of that godly Man Mr. Perkins I judge it very necessary for these two Reasons First because he was a very godly man and therefore all men ought the more readily to believe that which he wrote to be truth Secondly because he was a Student in the said Art of Judicial Astrologie and therefore he was the better able to judge of the legality or illegality of the Art of Astrologie Now what he faith of Astrologie you may see in his discourse of Witch-craft page 620. where his words are to this purpose viz. That divination by the Starres is commonly called Judicial Astrologie of which we may read Deut. 18.10.11 where the Holy Ghost doth of purpose reckon up all those kind of develish Arts Deut. 18.10.11 whereby men have dealings and society with Satan either in divining or practising amongst which this is the second The word there used may carry a double sence for it signifieth either him that observeth times under which acception Astrologie is comprehended or him that observeth the Cloudes Megnonen and howsoever the best learned Interpreters do dissent about the Notation of it yet all agree in this that the profession of divining by the Starres is condemned and that it is to be numbred among the rest expressed in the prohibition may further appear by other places of Scripture as in Isaiah 47.13.14 where the Lord threatneth the same judgements against the Diviners by the Starres Isaiah 47.13.14 Dan. 2.2 that he doth against Sooth-sayers and Magicians Again in Dan. 2.2 Inchanters Astrologers and Sorcerers are joyned together as being all sent for about the same business viz. To expound the Kings Dream Now if the Lord himself have alotted the same punishment to the Astrologer which he hath to the Sooth-sayer and Magician and account them all one it is manifest that divining by the Starrs ought to be held as a superstitious kind of Divination Thus Mr. Perkins hath declared against the Art of Astrologie whereby it doth appear from that which hath been delivered that Astrologie is contrary unto the Scripture and is also full of idolatrous and superstitious Fables for it doth manifestly appear to be fabulous and to abound with superstition and Idolatry in your Planetary days and hours for thus say you Astrologers viz. Bacon Ganivetus That Saturday is not a good day for work because of the Planet Saturn for saith Ganivetus if any one cometh to aske councel in the hour of an evil Planet viz. Saturn or Mars it is a suspition rather to evil then to good Again saith another Haly. Abenragel the hours of Saturn and Mars ought to be abhorr'd in all things for saith he you were best to take heed that you take no great matter in hand or begin any long journey in the hours of the aforesaid Plan●●● c. But of this more hereafter in this discourse Yet nevertheless it is manifest from what hath been declared that the Art of Astrologie is a Diabolical Divination Psalm 84.11 34.9 For saith the Prophet David the Lord will give grace and glory no good thing will he uphold from them that walk uprightly From hence I gather that much viz. That the knowledge of all good things is and hath been by the Lord manifested unto his People so that if the fore-knowledge of things by Astrologie be a good thing it hath been by the Lord revealed unto his People but the Scripture doth in no place justifie those that seek after the fore-knowledge of things by the Starres therefore I say that the seeking to know future events by the Stars which is Astrologie is not a good thing because that whatsoever is a good thing Isa 47.10.11 Jer. 10.2 the Scripture doth not condemn it in deriding at the professors thereof But the Scripture doth condemn Astrologie in deriding at the Professors thereof therefore Astrologie is not a good thing Again whatsoever is an evil thing the word of God doth condemn it with those that practice it but the word of God doth condemn the Practitioners of Astrologie therefore it doth condemn Astrologie Now then for as much as Astrologers do take upon them for to divine by their Art of Astrologie of the particular events of things belonging to Man therefore I say that the aforesaid Art of Judicial Astrologie is a Diabolical Divination because it is condemned by the Scripture with the Professors thereof for a wicked Art for saith the Prophet to the Law and to the Testimony Isaiah 8.20 if they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them From the very word of God you may here then very evidently behold that Astrologers are workers in darkness and their Art of Astrologie is a work of darkness Eph. 5.11 wherefore consider the words of the Apostle who saith thus Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but even reprove them rather CHAP. III. In which is set forth that one of the first and chiefest points in Astrologie and without the said point Astrologers can do nothing
it a strange thing in that we sometimes see the Astrologers foretell that which afterwards doth come to pass and when the thing is come to pass we are not then to give ever the more credit to the Astrologer nor yet to think Astrologie to be any whit the law fuller because the event falleth out to be as the Astrologer had afore predicted For if because the event falleth out to be true or shall come to passe according to the prediction I say if any shall beleeve Astrologie to be a lawfull Art from this ground viz Because those things foretold by the Astrologers many times fall out to be true and so come to pass as they predicted again I say if they have no better arguments to prove the legallity of Astrologie then this of the event answering to the prediction Here then I say to all rationall men viz Note that Magick Conjuration Witch-craft and all such abominable wicked and unclean Arts may by the aforesaid argument be proved to be as lawfull as is the Art of Judiciall Astrologie 1 Sam. 28.19 1 Sam. 31.6 As for example I will instance in the death of King Saul with his sonnes and the destruction of his great Armie for we finde that the witch at Endor having conjured up the divell for to resolve the King of his doubts the said divell being raised up by the Witches art answereth unto the King after this manner viz. 1 Sam. 28.19 To morrow shalt thou and thy Sonnes be with me the Lord shall deliver also the Host of Israel into the hand of the Philistims c. Now that this Prediction fell out to be true 1 Sam. 31.6 according to the Devils predicting of the same none can deny for saith the Scripture so Saul dyed and his three Sonnes and his Armour-bearer and all his men that same day together So then from hence you may see the aforesaid argument cannot prove the legality of the art of Astrologie any more then it can prove the lawfulness of the Witch and her art in raising up the Devil at Endor wherefore we may evidently understand from hence as followeth viz. What the greatest and strongest arguments are which the Astrologers can or are able to bring to prove the legality of Astrologie from and by I say that Magick Conjuration and Witch-craft may from and by the said argument be proved and warranted as lawful and as honest as Judicial Astrologie Exod. 22.18 Mic. 5.12 but how lawful and honest Witch-craft is I leave unto all men for to judge from these places of Scripture for it is said in Exod 22.18 Thou shalt not suffer a Witch to live again it is said by the Lord God in Mica 5.12 and I will cut off Witch-crafts out of thine hand and thou shalt have no more Sooth-sayers But to return again to my purpose I have declared a little afore that the greatest and strongest arguments that are set forth by the Astrologers for to prove the legality of Astrologie by is this viz. The event falling out to be according to the Prediction Now that this is the best The greatest argument the Astrologers have to prove the legality of their art and strongest of all the arguments which the Astrologers can bring and produce to warrant the legality of their said art of Judicial Astrologie by I say it is evidently to be seen that this is their greatest and strongest argument as it doth plainly appear by their own words and confessions written by themselves in their own Books as you shall see I will here again manifestly prove although the same is else-where by me done Sir Christopher Heydon in his defence of Astrologie fol 195. But to begin I think it is my best way to set their Champion in the first place because if any man questioneth with our Astrologers about the lawfulness of their Art they in all the haste and speed as may possible be done send him unto their Champion Sir Christopher Heydon's Defence of Astrologie where he may have a full resolution of all his questions and doubts which he hath ag inst Astrologie But now seeing we are in a Dispute about the Arguments that the Astrologers do commonly bring to prove their art of Astrology a lawful art now then seeing Sir Christopher is the chiefest of our Astrologers and unto him they send all that gainsay their art therefore let us hear what he can say for Astrology Heydon 195. Now what he saith made him believe Astrology to be a lawful art is onely because he had seen the event fall out true according to the Prediction as it doth plainly appear by his own words which are as followeth in the 195 page of his Discourse where he saith thus viz. I for my part saith he do freely confess that there is no one thing that hath made me so confident in the validity of this art as that which I have seen to fall out true Thus the great Artist of Astrology in few words hath told us what his strongest argument is whereby he can prove Astrology a lawful and a mighty powerful art now if this be a sufficient warrant to make a man confident in the validity of an art 1 Sam. 31. because he seeth the Predictions fall out true then may these Astrologers be as confident in the validity of Witchcraft as they can be of the legality of Astrology by their own argument for because the greatest and strongest argument which all of them use to plead the validity of Astrology by is this Because they see their predictions fall out true Again to this I answer as I said before That this argument doth prove Astrology no more to be a lawful art then it doth prove Witchcraft to be lawful for all that which was foretold unto Saul by Witchcraft fell out true Therefore Witchcraft is as lawful as Astrology by the best argument of the Astrologers Now that this is the best and strongest argument which the Astrologers have to warrant the legality of Astrology by this I say I will prove by their own words and confessions as I said afore and I will fetch out him first into the light unto whom they all run to hide themselves in the dark He it is whom I cited a little afore Heydon fol. 195. Sir Christopher Heydon in his Defence of Astrology saith thus viz. I for my part saith he do freely confesse that there is no one thing that hath made me so confident in the validity of this Art as that which I have 〈◊〉 fall out true Now you having here understood what Sir Christopher Heydon's great argument for Astrology is Mr. Lilly page 148. of his Intr. in the next place you shall hear what Mr. William Lillie hath declared to be his great argument for the verity or truth of Astrology his words are thus speaking of the markes moles or scars of the querent saith he I have many times admired at the