Mankind What more excellent Judgment can be given then that men quit their Contentions about Notions and Opinions and betake themselves to the Practice of that which God hath already shewn unto them as spake both the Prophet Micah 6. 8. and the Apostle Paul Rom. 1. 19. And if any thing be revealed to one more then another let the rest judge in the Spirit or be silent till God manifest more to them in order to Right Judgment 'T is good to try all things but we must have something to try them by and what ought that to be but the Spirit that searcheth the Anointing that teaches all things which is Truth it self Here Mankind will live in Love having at least Natural Affections now lost by the Bâ—…rbarity of some of their cruel Religions and a Judgment oâ—… things will be made not from the Rash Partial Short sighted a d Froward Mind of man but that eternal Light and Spirit that never erred which however disgustful to some Protestants in this Age was no False Doctrine in the Account of John Philpot and Bp. Latimer two great Founders of the Reformation The first in his Answer to the Bishop of Chichester reproving his Confidence about true Faith in Christ saying These Hereticks take upon them to be sure of all things they stand in Let him doubt saith John Philpot of his Faith that listeth God give me alwayes to believe that I am sure of true Faith and Favour in Christ. The second in his Answer to a Knight objecting the Uncertainty of Man in what he calls Truth thus recorded by J. Fox Your Friends deny not but that certain Truths are communicated to us according to Capacity But as to my Presumption and Arrogancy either I am certain or uncertain that it is Truth that I preach if it be Truth why may not I say so if I be uncertain why dare I be so bold as to preach it And if your Friends be Preachers themselves after their Sermon I pray you ask them Whether they be certain and sure they preach the Truth or no and send me word what they say that I may learn to speak after them If they say they be sure you know what follows if they say they be unsure when shall you be sure that have so doubtful and unsure Teachers Let not Protestants for Shame judge us for owning a Doctrine that is confessed to and confirmed by some of the Worthiest of their own Ancestors viz. That an Infallible Judgment in things necessary to Salvation is both possible and requisite and that God communicates it by his Spirit to the Souls of men The Conclusion TO Conclude Immanuel a word suited not only to that Appearance but whole Dispensation imports God nigh to or with men The Tabernacle of God is with men he will dwell in them and walk in them they shall be all taught of me and in Righteousness shall they be established And this admits not of any Book or literal Rule or Judge to come between that in-dwelling Light Life and Wisdom of God and the Soul as its Rule of Faith and Life And because it is the unutterable Goodness of God to People in these latter Dayes as the Sum of Scripture-Prophecy thus to make known himself we are incessant in our Cries unto them that they would turn in their Minds now abroad and taking up their Rest in the Externals of Religion that they may hear his Heavenly Voice and Knocks and let him in and be taught of him to know and do his Will that they may come to be experienced and expert in the School of Christ For never Man spoak and taught as he livingly speaks and teaches in the Consciences of those who diligently hear him and are willing to be taught of him the Knowledge of his Wayes The Priest was Outward but he is now Inward the Law Outward but it is now Inward And he is no more a Jew that is one outward nor that Circumcision which is outward in the Flesh but he is a Jew who is one inwardly and Circumcision is that of the Heart in the Spirit and not in the Letter whose Praise is not of Men but of God Which is so far from lessening the Scriptures of Truth that unless this be man's Rule and Judge in the reading and believing of them he can never either understand them or keep the things therein contain'd aright And indeed as before I have expressed I cannot but say That Man whilst unregenerated setting his Wit and Wisdom to fathom and comprehend the Intention of the Holy Ghost in many of those Writings hath occasioned that Confusion Darkness and perplext Controversie that now so lamentably pesters the World In which State for all the External Imitations of the Ancients in some temporary and visible Parts of Worship I am to tell such from the Spirit of the Lord God of all Truth they will never be accepted The utmost of that literal Knowledge historical Faith and outward Religion is at best but the Old Heavens that are to be wrapped up as a Scroul the Old Wine and Bottle that belong not to the Kingdom and Man's holding true Words in an unregenerated and unrighteous Nature where he may cry Lord Lord but shalâ—… never enter into the Rest that is Eternal For under such a Faith and Religion Envy Wrath Malice Persecution Pride Passion Worldly-Mindedness c. may and do live yea and are cloaked as with a secure Cover from the Stroak of God's Spirit insomuch as when any are moved of the Lord to decry such fair and hypocritical Shews of Religion they are reputed Rash and Censorious and presently a Plea must he made on this wise Do not we follow the Commands of the Scripture Did not such and such do so and so Never regarding from what Grounds the Performance springs whether it be according to the Rule of the NEW or OLD Creature buâ—… abuse and vilifie us for making such Distinctions as if the Prayers Preachings Singings outward Baptizings and Suppings c. of Men in their own Spirits Strength and Will were required and accepted of God for Evangelical Worship Thick Darkness and dangerous Presumption Thus are Men out of the Way concerning both Faith and Practice and the true Rule and Judge of them They make the former to lie in an Assent of the Understanding to such Propositions and in the performing of some visible Parts of Religion in their own Spirits and Wills which is far from the Immanuel-State And the latter to be the Scriptures which is but an Account of those Things which others were ruled to and directed in by the Holy Spirit before they were ever recorded or made Scripture and not another Rule or Judge can so regulate For as the Faith and Experience so the Rule and Judge of that Faith and that Experience must be one God by his Spirit begets Faith God by his Spirit rules Faith and governs the Life of his Children for
of their future Beings or how they shall be reserved for Eternal Rewards There are two things tend to Atheism or to make men Atheists viz. First Some Mens Curiosity in studying and searching into Matters and Things beyond their Capacities and Reason being things of another 〈◊〉 and Principle then they are in Secondly Other Mens Self Confidence in asserting things contrary to Reason and manifest Experience and in particular in their affirming that these self-same Terrestrial Bodies of Flesh Blood and Bones shall be made Spiritual Immortal and Incorruptible and yet the same Matter and Substance as now It is true that Henry Moor had finer and more 〈◊〉 Notions about the Resurrection then many other learned men and aimed at the Truth and Spirituality thereof from the Visions of the Holy Men recorded in the Scriptures but if any should soar after those Notions how fine thin sublime or desirable soever they seem to be to that Aspiring Mind that desireth to feed upon the Tree of Knowledge such are in Danger both to fall 〈◊〉 and miss of the Fruit of the Tree of Life and of the Resurrection of the Just. Therefore Oh breathing Souls retire and 〈◊〉 down to the holy Principle of Light and Life in your selves so as that may both rend the Vail of Darkness open you and shew it self in its own Purity Vertue and Efficacy unto you that thereby you may know Christ revealed in you to be your Resurrection and Life your Hope of Glory and Everlasting Reward your Strength Nourishment and Souls Satisfaction For this is Life Eternal to know God and Jesus Christ whom he hath sent that in him each of you may arise to Righteousness and Peace here and to Glory hereafter And though it appear not what you shall be yet it is matter of Satisfaction Stay and Comfort that you have such Experience of the Love of God as to be his Children and to have his Witness and Testimony in you That his Appearance and Work will be to your Glory and future Felicity in Immortality where we shall have a Building of God an House not made with Hands eternal in the Heavens for in this we groan earnestly c. that Mortality might be swallowed up of Life Now he that hath wrought us for the self-same thing is God who also hath given unto us the Earnest of the Spirit Glorified be his Name forever George Whitehead THE END A Conclusive ADVERTISEMENT Serious Reader THe many Controversâ—…s the great 〈◊〉 of the Press the 〈◊〉 Strivings of our Adversaries and their 〈◊〉 to prejudice and divert the Minds of People with their 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and perverse Gain-sayings from the Reception of Truth which required 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and speedy Answers have occasioned the long Delay of publishing this Book after it was writ but I hope it will not be unseasonable at length but of Service to many for the Information of such honest Minds as sincerely seek to understand the Truth about those principal Matters of 〈◊〉 between us and our present Opposers herein unfolded And if the Manner or Method of Wording any Passages of Reprehension c. seems too Harsh or Sharp in the Eye of any who have not known 〈◊〉 been concerned as we are with such unplacable Adversaries let not this disgust or 〈◊〉 them from eying the Light and Manifestation of Truth aim'd at really intended and seriously contended for in the Matter and Substance of these 〈◊〉 Considering also in the reading the reprovable Occasions given us by those 〈◊〉 Spirits we have to deal withal our Zeal being for the Truth as made known to us and that in Uprightness and Simplicity of Heart to God and Love to Souls we have taken this Pains with much more And we must speak and write 〈◊〉 according to our several Gifts and as we see Occasion as they naturally 〈◊〉 and spring even in the Simplicity of Truth received not as Men 〈◊〉 nor to gratifie Men's Curious Fancies and Affections but as those that must give Account unto GOD whose we are Upon perusal of the Answers here 〈◊〉 I 〈◊〉 meet to give a Hint of these two Passages to prevent some Objection viz 〈◊〉 in pag. 112. there is a Question upon John 12. 35. which is Did not Jesus say There is yet a little Light IN YOU Having made further 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 it I find only in the Old Latin Translation these words Dixit ergo eis Jesus adhuc modieum Lumen IN VOBIS est And whether this might not be 〈◊〉 out of some very ancient Greek Copy not come to our 〈◊〉 is to be 〈◊〉 as being supposed by some However it is a Truth 〈◊〉 the 〈◊〉 that was with them was also IN them To be with them doth not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in them And whereas in pag. 305. lin 6. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 are to dye these Words of S. S' s should have been inserted viz. Another 〈◊〉 say to that Company Though you are not able to run as 〈◊〉 as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as strongly yet if you do your best Endeavour and hold out you are to 〈◊〉 the rich Inheritance I ask which of 〈◊〉 two did speak to the 〈◊〉 of their Companies 〈◊〉 he renders the Scripture-Minister as 〈◊〉 in Opposition to the Quaker How this Passage 〈◊〉 omitted I know not for I am 〈◊〉 it was intended being spoaken to in my Answer as 〈◊〉 pag. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 306. And as for the Errors or Defects that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the Press through any Inadvertency or much Business the Reader is desired to correct or at least not to reflect upon the Author therein seeing the most material Faults are noted in the following Errata and how to be Corrected in the 〈◊〉 ERRATA TO THE SECOND PART HEre are some of the most material Faults escaped the Press which the honest serious Reader is desired to correct as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 read obvious to the Sight p. 8. l. 30. for us read as p. 14. l. 23 for filth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 15 l. 1. r. obliterated p. 19. l. 21. for Saint r. Saints p. 29. l. 〈◊〉 for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 30. l. 4. r. Manifestation or Principle l. 19 r that the Light is Christ. p 32 l. 10. for good read Goodness p. 39. l. 15. r. comparing it as to its Work pag 45 l. 29 f. effect r. affect p. 48. l. 3 for which r. the. p. 54 l. 24 f principle r. principal pages 66 67 68. in the Titlo blot out Offices 〈◊〉 p. 72 l. 27. 〈◊〉 meerly as a 〈◊〉 without p. 75. l. 22. 〈◊〉 spiritual known r. spiritually 〈◊〉 p. 77. l. 35 r 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p 80. l. 33. f. to be r. will be p. 84. line last deâ—…e lux p. 105. l. 9. f Christ saying r. that saying p. 132. l 6. r. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 133 l. 16 for he r they p. 142. l. 5. r. strike at p. 150. l. 22. f Body r. the Body p. 151. blot out Body of in the 〈◊〉 p. 152. l. 31. r. on thy
Ignorance and Idolatry against the Truth of its Discoveries and Efficacy of its Power If we had not desended the Light 's Sufficiency from these Authorities then our Assertion had been declared infirm with no small Shew of Triumph and Insult and now we have made good our Ground against their Objections the next News I expect to hear from such as are Perverse among them will be our Heathening â—…r turning Heathens But as all they could do would not make us Christians if Heathens so neither can their Prejudice being True-Spirited Christians render us in their Sense Heathens with Sober and Impartial Persons CHAP. XII That this was not only the Doctrine and Faith of the Gentiles but the very Primitive Doctors or Fathers both so held and so exprest themselves Eight Testimonies produced for Proof thereof BUt as I have hitherto made evidently appear both that the Gentiles Believed in One God and had a very clear Apprehension of the Light or Divine Principle placed in Man from whom all Heavenly Knowledge was to be derived and that this Divine Light or Spirit or Principle was by them asserted to be the most certain Guide and infallible Rule of Faith and Practice And further that the Scriptures produced abundantly verifie their Doctrines as that due Comparison of them will evidence so to the End these angry Men I have to do with should not count it a Prophaning of holy Writ or think that I am the only Man that ever had that favourable Apprehension of these Gentile-Doctrines I am willing to instance some of the most Primitive and Approved Fathers of the Christian-Church And by a short view of what they believed in reference to the present Subject with their way of phraising such Belief we may the more clearly perceive how far those Gentiles are by them Reprehensible either with respect to their Soundness in Judgement or Expression that if it be possible we may remove all Pretence for Objection against the Universality and Sufficiency of this Blessed Light I. JUSTINUS MARTYR whom I therefore chuse to begin with because from a Learned Philosopher becoming an Honest Christian and Constant Martyr from whence he was sirnamed Martyr he could the better tell us the Difference of the Change But so far was he from reputing the Principle of God within Men Hetrodox or Inconsistent with the Purity of the Christian Religion that with no small Earnestness he therefore pleads against all Coercive Power upon Conscience and the Pompous Worship of the Heathens in their Temples as his Apologies will inform us because saith he GOD HATH BUILT TO HIMSELF A NATURAL TEMPLE IN THE CONSCIENCES OF MEN as the Place wherein he would be Worshipped and that there Men ought to look for his Appearance and Reverence and Worship him or to that purpose II. To this doth CLEMENS ALEXANDRINUS that Earnest Contender against the Apostate Gentiles plainly assent who often but more particularly in these few Places following recommends to us the Light or Word Within It is the Voice of Truth saith he that Light will shine out of Darkness Therefore doth it shine in the hidden Part of Mankind that is in the Heart and the Rayes of Knowledge break forth making manifest and shining upon the inward Man which is hidden Christ's Intimates and Coheirs are the Disciples of the Light He further expresseth himself in another Place Man cannot be void of Divine Knowledge who Naturally or as he comes into the World partaketh of Divine Inspiration as being of a more Pure Essence or Nature then any other Animals And as assenting to the Doctrine of some Ancient Philosophers and other Heathen Authors for against the Gentiles of his time I suppose he may make use of no less then about Two Hundred and Fifty he doth very frequently attest the Truth of the Doctrine of the Divine Light in Man as Man's Concomitant to all good Works as one Passage eminently proves I earnestly exhort thee because I would have thee saved and that would Christ also who offers thee Life in one Word But thou mayst say What is it IT IS THE WORD OF TRUTH THE INCORRUPTIBLE WORD WHICH REGENERATES MANKIND AND LEADS HIM AGAIN TO TRUTH the Spur that pricketh on to Salvation who expelleth the Destruction chaseth away Death and hath BUILT A TEMPLE IN MANKIND THAT IT MAY PLACE GOD IN MAN I know not any of the Ancients more profoundly read in the Doctrines of the Gentiles then this Clemens Alexandrinus and who to prove the Verity of the Christian-Religion against them doth numerously cite and insert the Writings of the more Venerable Heathens and with the very Books of their Admired Ancestors doth he accutely argue the Unreasonableness of their Opposition to Christianity the very top of Vertue and Perfection of Goodness as did Christ to prove himself the True Messiah urge the Scriptures to those pretended great Believers in them as an Aggravation of their Incredulity III. TERTULLIAN then whom there was not any I ever read more sharp against the Dissolute Gentiles of his time as his most quaint Apology for the Christians and in it his severe Charge against their Enemies doth particularly assure us thinks it to be neither Heresie nor Heathenism as it is commonly understood to believe and assert That a Life subject to the Holy Guidings of the Universal Light in the Conscience is a kind of Natural Christianity or to be Naturally a Christian. And though in his Apology he stabs with the sharpest Points of Wit Reason and Truth the Cause of Degenerated Philosophy or rather those that were unmeritedly called Philosophers yet he lays it still on the side of their great Apostacy from that Noble Principle which worthily Renowned their Predecessors the Being of whose Stock and Assuming whose Titles alone they Vainly esteem'd Warrant enough for their so great Pretensions to Real Science not unlike the Pharisees of the Jews as hath already been observed IV. ORIGEN who I may say was twice a Christian first by Education and next by Choyce a strong Defender of Christianity as his notable Books against Celsus and others do abundantly witness treating of that Divine Light with which God has illuminated Mankind as his Universal Endowment calls it AN IMMUTABLE LAW WHICH WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL IS ENGRAVEN UPON THE HEART AND GRAFTED INTO THE SOUL OF MAN V. LACTANTIUS Scholar to Arnobius who writ smartly against the Apostate Gentiles esteemed a good and acute Man thus delivers himself about the Matter in hand THE LAW OF GOD saith he is made known unto us WHOSE LIGHT like the STARS TO THE MARINER in the Night Season clearly discovers to us THE PATH OF WISDOM That Law is Pure and Unspotted Reason not inconsonant with nor unintelligible by Nature DEFUSED THROUGH ALL THE WORLD in it self UNCHANGEABLE and ETERNAL which that it may deter Man from Vice doth faithfully by its INJUNCTIONS and PROHIBITIONS DECLARE UNTO MAN HIS
in being I cannot see but the Type and the Thing typified might be at one and the same time not as to Degree but Nature for so I would be understood Before I conclude take this notable Saying of Christ to the Jews and what may be collected from it to our Purpose BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS I AM ABRAHAM SAW MY DAY AND REJOYCED which affords us briefly thus much That though he was not so visibly come yet it was the very same HE that came about One Thousand Six Hundred Years ago who was with the Fathers of Old and that Abraham who lived One Thousand Nine Hundred Years before that outward Appearance saw him and his Day If this be not the Import of the Place I know none For the Jews not believing him to be the Messiah thought it high Presumption sor him to compare with Abraham Art thou Greater then our Father Abraham who is dead and the Prophets are dead Whom makest thou thy self said that Unbelieving People Unto which he answered that he might prove himself to be the true Messiah the Christ of God ABRAHAM SAW MY DAY and rejoyced They still harping upon that Visible Body not Thirty Three Years old replyed Thou art not yet Fifty and hast thou seen Abraham Taking that to be the Messiah the Christ of God and Saviour of the World he meant which they saw with their Carnal Eyes To which he rejoyn'd with a Verily verily I say unto you before Abraham was I am then took they up Stones to cast at him c. By all which it is most clear that unless our Adversaries will deny him that so spoak which yet T. Hicks's Anti-scriptural Opinion doth imply to be Christ who singled and distinguisht himself as the Messiah the Christ of God and Saviour of the World from that Visible Body not Fifty Years old indeed both Christ that then spoak must needs have been long before Abraham's Time and that such Holy Ancients were not without a Sight and Prospect of him and the Day of his Glorious Appearance or that most Signal Manifestation of himself in that Body prepared for that Great and Holy Purpose witness the exceeding Clear and Heavenly Prophecyes that were as so many Fore-runners or Introducers of the Evangelical State And this is unquestionably confirm'd unto us by that known and very weighty Expression of the Apostle Paul to the Romans Whose are the Fathers and of whom as concerning the Flesh Christ came who is over all God blessed for ever Amen Since here both Christ is distinguisht from the Body he took and made one with that God who is over all blessed for ever Amen As much as to say of whose Flesh Christ took therefore Christ was before he took it or his taking it did not constitute him Christ which Christ is God And if God which cannot be said of meer Flesh or any Corporal Lineage then must he have been from all Everlasting To conclude As Abraham Outward and Natural was the great Father of the Jews Outward and Natural whose Seed God promis'd to bless with Earthly Blessings as Canaan c. that they were figurative of the one Seed Christ and such as he should beget unto a lively Hope through the Power of his Spiritual Resurrection it will consequently follow that this Seed must be Inward and Spiritual since one outward thing cannot be the proper Figure or Representation of an other Nor is it the Way of holy Scripture so to teach us The Outward Lamb shows forth the Inward Lamb The Jew Outward the Jew Inward As God attended the one with many singular outward Mercies to say no more above other Nations So the Jew in Spirit doth he benefit above all other People I have these two short Arguments to prove what I believe and assert as to the Spirituallity of the True Seed and a clearer Overthrow it is to the Opinion of our Adversaries to the True Christ. First Every thing begets its like What is simply Natural produces not a Spiritual Being Material Things bring not forth Things that are Immaterial Now because the Nature or Image begotten in the Hearts of True Believers is Spiritual it will follow that the Seed which so begets and brings forth that Birth must be the same in Nature with that which is begotten therefore Spiritual then Christ's Body or what he had from the Virgin strictly considered as such was not the Seed Secondly it is clear from hence The Serpent is a Spirit Now nothing can bruise the Head of the Serpent but something that is also Internal and Spiritual as the Serpent is But if that Body of Christ were the Seed then could he not bruise the Serpent's Head in all because the Body of Christ is not so much as in any one and consequently the Seed of the Promise is an Holy and Spiritual Principle of Light Life and Power that being receiv'd into the Heart bruiseth the Serpents Head And because the Seed which cannot be that Body is Christ as testify the Scriptures the Seed is one and that Seed Christ and Christ God over all blessed forever we do conclude and that most truly that Christ was and is the Divine Word of Light and Life that was in the beginning with God and was and is God over all blessed for ever And this may yet more evidently appear let it but be seriously weigh'd that before ever that visible Appearance the Seed bruised in good measure the Serpent's Head in the Holy Men and Women of all Generations otherwise they had not been Holy but Serpentine and Wicked And if the Seed was before and that Seed be Christ because there is but One Christ as well as but One only Seed it doth clearly follow that Christ was Christ before that Outward Appearance and consequently it could but be a more Excellent and free Manifestation of his Truth Righteousness Salvation Wisdom Power Glory and Dominion as indeed it was For notwithstanding that this Heavenly Seed was in some measure known and what was wrought of Inward Deliverance in that Day was by and through the Power and Vertue of it as the Minds of People were retired to that Word of God nigh in the Heart to cleanse and redeem And though particular Persons might arrive at great Attainments even to a Beholding the Day of the Seeds compleat Redemption and Conquest over all it's Oppressors when what was but in the Condition of a Seed or New-born Child should become the only Son the Wonderfull Counsellor the Mighty God the Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace of the Increase of whose Government there should be no End as speaks the Prophet Yet it is granted through that good Understanding the Lord has given us in these weighty Things that the Generallity were but Weak Dark and Imbondaged as saith the Apostle under Carnal and Beggarly Elements not clearly seeing through those outward Services which if I may so speak God held them in hand with condescending to
the Priests might shew themselves some of them thinking it to long to wait the Magistrates Leisure turn'd their own Pay-Masters upon Heads Shoulders and other Limbs of Men and Women not distinguishing in either Sex or Age. The Cry of these Innocent People came up to the then Supream Authority but Relief could not be had One Book came out upon another conjuring the Magistrates to employ their Power to the utter Extirpation of these Seducers commanded the People that they should not so much as have any common Intercourse with them but avoid them as the Pest and fly them as Witches Sorcerers It were to irksom to tell the moity of their Stratagems O the Mercys of these Men were Cruelties But yet farther many things were writ by us in Vindication oâ—… our Innocency Some that sought for the Redemption of Israel and the Right Way of God believ'd here there a Simeon a Centurion a Priest a Lawyer a Physitian a Customer Fisherman and abundance of Handecrafts for the Poor receiv'd the Gospel But Alas Neither our Apologies nor grievous Sufferings were enough to allay that swelling spirit of Cruelty nor in the least affect the minds of Priests or Rulers with the Deploredness of our Condition so as to redress all these grievious Sufferings perhaps somtimes a little shew of Favour there might be but usually attended with a more terrible Storm They at last I mean the Magistrates by the detestable Suggestions of the Priests not having any Law in force by which they could justâ—…fie the Rigor of their Carriage towards us enacted first that no Man should Travel on the Sabboth-Day thereby to punish us as Criminals for going to our Assemblies to Worship the living God and next that such Persons as should be found above so many Miles from their own Homes not being able to give a good account of themselves should be whipt as Vagabonds by which Laws they miserably opprest our Friends many Men of considerable Estates being worse us'd then very Vagabonds Thus covering the one over with Devotion for the Day of rest and the other with prudent care for the Good of the Common-Wealth Nor was this all but as if they would out-do the Ages of cruel Popery and degenerated Prelacy they received both the Oath of Queen Mary made against such Protestants as came to decry the Idolatrys and Superstitions of the Romish Worship in the time of their Service thereby to justifie themselves in the Exercise of Cruelty and Revenge upon us for beaâ—…ing our faithful Testimony against their Formal and Hypocritical Preachments and that Oaâ—…h of Abrogatâ—…on of Popery that by the Advantage they took of our not Swearing at all they might the better fasten upon us the Character of Papists as Men Jesuited to that Interest with plain Design to render us odious and cover their own Cruelty Well may I say OUT-DONE when pretended reformed Protestants endeavour the Security of their Religion by the enaction of those Laws which were made by Inhuman Papists against such as in good measure we can say were truly reformed Protestants thereby condemning that in the Papists which they vigorously acted themselves and basely sought to entrap us by a colourable Oath wickedly forecast because they knew we could not Swear at all to punish us for not swearing against the Papists This was their Cloak they had to cover their Malice but it is grown to short scanty and out of date The Bruises Blood-shed grievous Beatings and tedious Imprisonments which followed this procedure are now seen with detestation of almost the very multitude it self and after Generations shall have it in utter abhorrance O what did not the Blood-thirsty Spirit in its Day These were the great pretending Presbyterians Independents and Anabaptists Fighting Knocking Kicking Robbing Imprisoning and Murthering an Innocenâ—… People whose whole Business was to Deny the dawâ—…g Doctrines of the Times and to Direct People to a certain Holy Principle in themselves unto which being Obedient they should experience Sin conquer'd and Peace with God preferring this above all the Traditions of Men or utmost Power of Human Ministry But as many of us saw in the Eternal Light that such Obstinacy in both Priests and Rulers to the Heavenly Truth would provoke the Just God to overturn them forever which though we did once and again tell them by Writings and by Word of Mouth they slighted our plain-Dealing turning it upon us that we should vanish in a little while So within very few Years God wrought the wonderfull Revolution and those who had been Inflicters of Heavy Punishments upon us became the Objects of their greatest Dis-pleasure whose Power and Estates they had so long usurp'd I can call it no otherwise for not the Country but Self was wickedly advanc'd thereby Behold the Justice of the Almighty such as refused us our Liberty after their Solemn Oathes to God and Men for the Preservation of Liberties Civil and Religious became destitute of their Own and who spoil'd us were spoil'd by Others and we just now under their Feeâ—… came upon Equal Terms with Our Adversaries At what time though both They and We used our Endeavours to prevent Coertion upon Conscience yet whether they prevailed or no some were in Hopes that the Edge of their Spirits by this Change of Affairs had been so doubl'd as never more to cut or wound a People that had never wrong'd them and that their Retirement would have been rather employ'd in hearty Sorrow for their Abuse of Government in their Unjust Severity towards us as well as others then a Continuance of the same Enmity But thus far such fail'd in hopes their Displeasure against us surviving their Power to inflict it for though it is true that in time of Persecution they would inquire out of their By-Holes of our Well-fare for who had so long reigned shew'd they were most unfit for Suffering and like People upon City-Walls or from other convenâ—…ent standings would diligently observe the State of things and by their Observation or Inquiry carefully acquaint themselves with the Success for our Overthrow had been the End of them and as one of themselves said We were the Bulworks that receiv'd the Shot Yet so unabated hath their implacable Malice been at the King 's first coming in they thought to do great Matters by letting the Powers know they were no Abettors of the Quakers which indeed stood us in great stead least we might have been taken for those Tumultuous Blood-thirsty Covenant-breaking Government-destroying Anabaptists and that they might prove to the World we were not of them No sooner those Storms of Persecution have been over but like forgetful Mariners they have faln to their Old Work of bitter Envying Either some one of their Church leaves them or the Quakers are prosperous in their Labours or any thing else that is next for a Cover to palliate their Emulous Spirit in all its base Detractions from us and the blessed Truth
and the Cause of men's Destruction opened against Arg. 4. Persons being chosen proves not their Eternal Election as Persons p. 260. § 4. Concerning Jacob and Esau Christ's Sheep those that come â—…ome drawn and given unto him of the Father Arg. 5 6. p. 262. § 5. Election explained God's Loving Jacob and hating Esau their Posterities concerned therein and how far the two Births were figured in Jacob and Esau p. 265. § 6. Our Opposer's blasphemously placing a partial Resolution upon God as creating Persons with Intention to leave them to Destruction contrary to his universal Call and Tend rs of Salvation p. 268. § 7. The Unchangeableness of God's Election in what State and our Opposer's Ignorance and Error concerning God's Purpose p. 269. § 8. My Unanswered Objection of setting Life and Death before men and Warning them of Destruction p. 271. § 9. The Cause of God's Hardening Pharaoh Judas and others not grounded upon meer Will and Pleasure but for their Rebellion p. 272. § 10. Touching the Fall of particular Angels and Men the Tendence of God's Long-suffering towards the Wicked and my Opposer's Confession to Truth to the utter Overthrow of his Opinion p. 273. § 11. Presbyters Mockery in their Warnings and setting Life and Death Conditional Promises and Threats before People contrary to their Partial Opinion of an Eternal Personal Election and Reprobation png. 275. Sect. 12. The sad Consequence of their Accusing God with decreeing to deny Saving Grace to particular Persons yea to the greater part of Mankind shewing that Divine Justice it self hath not so decreed pag. 277. § 13. Grace differing from Debt The Reason why God finds Fault with Men The Question Who hath resisted his Will resolved p. 278. § 14. Their urging all to forsake Sin contradictory to their Opinion and not in true Faith Their flattering many with fair Pretences contrary to their own Intentions The poor Encouragement and cold Comfort that their Doctrine of a Personal Reprobation yields to the greatest part of Mankind p. 279. § 15. The Wise God the Just Judge is the Ordainer of the Punishment not of the Fact nor the Author of Sin or their Wickedness who persecuted Christ p. 281. § 16. Hypocritical Priests making and strengthening Hypocrites by deceitfully daubing them up in their Sins and flattering them with a YOU ARE NOT FALLEN FROM GRACE while they are guilty of gross VVickedness p. 283. § 17. Concerning God's Covenant with David and his Seed and the Mystery typified in him p. 284. To all which is added a Short Postscript concerning the WILL of God in its Manifestation 1st as Unresistible 2dly as Resistible p. 286 287 288 289. Chap. VI. VVhether PERFECTION that is a State freed from all Sin be attainable in this Life from p. 290. to p. 312. The Fifth Treatise about the RESURRECTION beginning at pag. 315. to the end of the Book The RESURRECTION owned by us and Scripturally asserted with the Future and distinct Beings of Men Angels and the Eternal Advantage Glory Felicity of the Righteous or Saints after Dissolution The Scriptures spiritual Teftimony thereof being owned and vindicated by us in Opposition to our OPPOSER ' s CARNAL THOUGHTS about the Resurrection and future State particularly in Answer to Tho. Hicks W. Burnet and Thomas Danson Unto which is annexed Thomas Vincent ' s Illustrations about the Resurrection as partly an Explication of the Sense of the rest of our Opposers therein Finally Some Passages of Hen. Moor ' s for the SPIRITUALITY of the Resurrection-Bodies viz. the Body of Christ and the Bodies of Saints The Intent of all this Fifth Treatise being both to remove Groundless Objections Unnecessary Questions and Fruitless Disputes about this Weighty and Mysterious Point of the Resurrection THE CHRISTIAN-QUAKER And his DIVINE TESTIMONY VINDICATED c. Viz. The Universality Sufficiency of Christ's LIGHT WITHIN through all Ages to Eternal SALVATION fully Stated and Defended CHAP. I. The Occasion of the Discourse The Unhandsome Dealing of our Adversary with Respect to the Invented Weakness he chargeth upon the Quakers as the Strength of their Cause THere is a Book lately come to my Hands intituled A Dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker which with several others lately publisht against us hath given Occasion for this general Undertaking I was very curious to peruse that Discourse which should make a Difference between them having in my diligent Search after Religion ever desired to understand and profess That which upon true Convictions I had Reason to believe was the most Christian But as upon Impartial View I found the Weakness of that Book more favourable to us then the Uncharitableness of the Title-Page which seem'd to dis interest a Quaker in Christianity so most unexpectedly I found my Name among others often us'd and as often undeservedly abus'd by the Author I was not willing that any else should answer for my Faults if any there were and if Innocent I esteem'd my self both sufficient and oblig'd to my own Relief which will not be hard to do and the Reason is because so little Reason and so much Railing have been by him imploy'd against me as if he intended to scold rather then confute me and to let the World know how much better skill'd He is in Scurrility then Argument This I confess drew me first into any Willingness of considering his Discourse at large Not that the Truth was not first in mine Eye but because I know the Person most concern'd with him to be both able and resolv'd to reply I thought my Endeavors at least for this time might have been very well excused But so many Out-cries coming upon the Neck of another if possible to expel us the World I found my self press'd in Spirit to buckle my Mind to this Enterprise notwithstanding that my late Concernment with some other Adversaries had left the Wearisomness of a Combat upon my Spirit and the Hopes I had of being spared by the ingenuous Acknowledgment of our Enemies from the like Necessity of further Controversie But as it fell out with the People of Syracuse that several very Bad Tyrants were succeded by Worse so truly it hath done with us The Confutation of one Adversary redoubling Envy Prejudice and almost every evil Quality in the next as if to be overcome were more intollerable to them then to find the TRUTH by it would be Acceptable Oh Lamentable Use that these Men make of our Love and Pains But we have some Cause to think that failing of that Reason which is necessary to prop so infirm a Cause they would if possible supply the Want of it with the LAST WORD which at Billings Gate I hear goeth a Great Way to Advantage and turn the Scale in all Disputes And truly if the Temper of this Adversary be but consider'd with what Help he himself has given us to do it For my part I should stand amaz'd that any Sober Civil or Christian Man could refrain passing
Religion it self What Is he grown so hardy that he can handle Holy Things without Fear and make bold with tender Conscience so far as to abuse it self Is Singularity become so offensive in a Quaker as an Anabaptist must show his little Wit in Deriding it But certainly Reader it can be no small Advantage that both his Bitterness and Lightness give us against a Man of his high Pretences to Religion However our Conquest here will be our Patience Innocence and Truth Not that I will believe he thinks I want Words to whom he more then once makes the having of them Criminal and all that read him may see he hath furnisht me with Matter GROSS enough But I delight not to spend my time upon Invectives did I perhaps I might bestow a Tragick Comedy upon a Railing Anabaptist in return of that Ridiculons Dialogue he disingenuously would fasten on an unconcerned Quaker But my God forbid that I should Sport about Religion or make so much as any Man 's pretended Religious Dissent a Theam for my Railery or Abuse for I think it an ill way to Laugh men out of their Profession as well as I can never esteem that any sincere one which men are Jeer'd into and as Conviction is the most Serious Ground on which to receive Faith so to detract or deal disingenuously with any man may harden but can never Proselyte and this is our very Case with respect to T. H. Yet I would have him know That our so much reproached Light Within he so little concerns the Government of his Life withal incites us not to an Eye for an Eye but teacheth us that Forbearance and Forgiveness which we have some Reason to believe his Principles are wholly Strangers to else what can mean his greedy Endeavours To pluck out others Eyes that never yet assaulted so much as one of his either by Word or Writing Well may we take up the Complaint of God's Prophet of old We are had in Derision daily and almost every one Mocketh us But let the Carnal Christian-Mockers have a Care for though their Cruel Mockings be our Portion in this Life yet also for a Recompence shall their Bonds be made Strong and a Consumption from the Lord of Hosts is determined against them that persist therein Having now rendered with all convenient Brevity my just Exceptions against the manner of the Dialogue and spirit of the Man in general I shall proceed to offer something against the distinct Doctrines of it in my particular Vindication of the Truth viz. The Universality and Sufficiency of the Light Within and Demonstration of the General Rule of Faith CHAP. IV. That a Right Relish of the Manner of the Dialogue is a sufficient Antidote against the Matter of it His Questions stated His Feigned Answer A True Answer to the First What is Salvation To be saved from Sin and Wrath not Wrath without Sin WHat I have already said being duly weighed may be an apt Introduction to what follows For he that relishes the Unsavouriness and Rancour of His Spirit in the Mannagement of his pretended Christian-Dialogue surely can have but little Appetite to feed upon a Dish cook't up with such Poysonous Sauce Enmity and Truth were never Companions and where there appears so great a share of the one as hath been truly observed we may I hope without Offence conclude there can be but very little if any of the other However let us see with Reason and Sobriety whether the Matter of his Dialogue be more commendable then the Manner of it writ with so much Railing and Immoderation For Reader this know I writ not for Conquest but for Conscience sake and what I can grant I shall and what I must oppose I hope to do it with Truth and Meekness being only desirous to approve my self to God who will Reward all men according to their Works and to that Measure of Divine Light in every Conscience with which I shall begin and which as the Lord God shall enable me I will endeavour to maintain against the Angry and Undervaluing Reflections of its Adversaries To overlook then many unnecessary Queries that are set down either to Abuse us to fill up Corners or make the Dialogue glide the better no wayes true in themselves and wholly impertinent to the Matter I receive and prosecute the Main Questions which he propounds thus 1. What is that SALVATION which the Light leads to 2. What is this LIGHT that leads to It and 3. Who this HE or THEY are that Obey this Light and in Obeing attain Salvation Sober Questions I grant and as necessary to be known but I am willing first to set down the Answer he makes the Quaker to return before I give mine own that the Sober Reader may judge how different the Reason of a True Quaker is from T. Hicks's Phantastical one 〈◊〉 Thou runnest into many Words and Carnal Distinctions and wouldst have thy Fleshly Wisdom satisfied but I tell thee that Dust is the Serpent's Food Is this to act the Christian or the Scoffer towards the Quaker 'T is not to be doubted but T. H. knows better and that he hath not herein done to us as he would be done by For all his Pretences to Christianity he is thus far Debtor to and Criminal by the LIGHT he vilifieth But the Truth is he therefore maketh his Quaker to render him no better Reason whatever he knew because indeed it was inconsistent with his Design that he should But I will see if I can supply that voluntary Defect in Rebuk to his Disingenuous Practice on the behalf of the poor Abused Quaker I answer I. By SALVATION we understand as by Scripture is deliver'd to us A being saved from Sin here and the Wages of it which is Wrath to come Whereby we are taught utterly to renounce and reject the common Acceptation of it as the full and compleat Force of the Word viz. barely to be saved from Punishment hereafter In which Security through a vain Expectance of Salvation whilst not really actually sav'd from the Power of Sin and the Captivation of Lusts through the invisible Power of Christ Thousands dye and T. Hicks is one of those that not only is inthroal'd himself but earnestly contends for that Beggarly Faith and Religion to be the most Christian which is so unable to deliver both himself and others that believe in it In short We call Salvation Christ's making an End of Sin Destroying the Works of the Divel Finishing of Transgression Binding the Strong Man and Spoyling of his Goods in the Hearts and Consciences of Men and Women and bringing in his Everlasting Righteousness into the Soul whereby to Cleanse Wash Regenerate Renew and Refresh the Soul in one Scripture-Phrase to Save his People from their SINS These are the Times of Refreshment and this is the Day of Restitution and thus is HE King to Reign Prophet to give Vision and High Priest to Anoint with the
is Light 2. Who can have no Fellowship with him such as walk in Darkness that is Sin 3. Who have Fellowship with him such as walk in the Light as he is Light 4. the Reason why is given because such as walk in the Light are there sure experimentally to feel the Vertue of Christ's Blood to cleanse them from all Unrightcousness Where observe that the Light 's leading out of Darkness that is Unrighteousness is the same with the Blood of Jesus Christ cleansing from all Sin Sin and Darkness and to be cleansed from the one and to be translated from the other is equivalent otherwise a Man might be delivered from Darkness and walk in the Light and not be cleansed from Sin which is that Darkness a thing Absurd and Impossible In short they go together By this 't is evident that the Light being walkt in doth directly lead to God and Fellowship with him who is the Saving Light and Health of all Nations and consequently that the Light leads to Eternal Salvation Many are the Denominations that are given in Scripture to one and the same Being or Condition Christ is called The Word the Light the Saviour Emanuel a Rock a Door a Vine a Shepherd c. A State of Sin is sometimes called Darkness Death Disobedience Barrenness Rebellion Stiff-neckedness Eating of Sowr Grapes And Wicked Men Bryars Thorns Thistles Tares Dead Trees Wolves Goats c. On the contrary a State of Conversion is sometimes expressed by such words as Purged Refined Washed Cleansed Sanctified Justified Led by the Spirit Baptized by one Spirit into one Body Regenerated Redeemed Saved Bought with a Price c. And Persons so qualified The Children of God Children of Light Heirs of Glory Lambs Sheep Wheat And that by which they become or continue thus Light Spirit Fire Sword Hammer Power Grace Seed Truth Way Life Blood Water Bread Word Unction that leadeth into all Truth All which respectively is but one and the same in Nature That is Sin or a Sinful State is so variously denominated from the divers Operations and Discoveries of the Nature of it in Wicked Men. The like may be said of the several Vertues in Good and Holy Men and so of that one Divine Principle which so qualifies and preserves them For as the Primitive Saints felt the Operation of the One Holy Principle so they denominated it to men in Darkness they call'd it Light to such as believed and obeyed It became a Leader and those who witnessed their Sins conquer'd their Lusts cut down their Hearts broken and their Souls Washed Redeemed and daily Nourished they called that Divine Principle a Sword Fire Hammer Water Flesh Blood and Bread and Seed of Life In short The same Heavenly Principle became Light Wisdom Power Counsel Redemption Sanctification and Eternal Salvation unto those who believed in it So that the Variety of Expressions in the Scriptures must not be taken for so many distinct things in kind no nor sometimes in Operation And indeed notwithstanding that Light T. Hicks would have lodg'd in the bare Scriptures exclusive of the Spirit all the Men of the World met together would be confounded to give a true Account of the Matter therein contained if they were not Living Experimental Witnesses For as he is not an Evidence sufficient in Laws Humane that was not an Eye or Ear Witness neither are they Evidences for God and Christ who are not Eye and Ear Witnesses of the Light Spirit Grace and Word of God in the Heart And I boldly affirm the Scriptures speak no more for such as are not Inheritors of that Blessed Condition they declare of in some Measure or other then any Deed of Gift would do for a Person no wayes Nam'd or Interested therein It is time then for T. Hicks and his Partners to look about them lest the Midnight-Cry overtake them and their Professing Lamp be found without Oyl For I must needs tell him in the Beloved Disciple's Language He that saith he is in the Light and 〈◊〉 his Brother is in the Darkness even until now And in my own Language That I take that to be their State who shew so much Envious Displeasure against an Harmless People and those in particular that never yet Offended much less Justly provokt them But would they bring their Thoughts Words and Deeds to the Light in their own Consciences and let true Judgment pass upon them and patiently undergo the Heavenly Chastisements for their Disobedience to and Vilifying of the Light they would come to witness a turning from the Darkness to the Light and continuing therein as that Holy Way in which the Ransomed of the Lord alwayes did do and shall walk through all Generations they would know the Injoyment of Eternal Peace Yea such is the Excellency of Christ the true Light that as He was First so shall He be the Last when all Outward Performances Writings Worships yea the whole World shall be at an End the Use and Excellency of the Light will remain forever as saith John the Divine And they shall see his Face and his Name shall be written in their Fore-Heads and there shall be no Night there and they need no Candle neither Light of the Sun for the LORD GOD GIVETH THEM LIGHT and they shall Reign forever and ever Amen CHAP. VIII An Objection against the Light 's Antecedent Being to Christ's Coming It is prov'd to have been known to be a Saving Light from Adam's day through the Holy Patriarchs and Prophets time down to Christ's from the Scriptures of Truth HAving then plainly prov'd from Scripture 1. That the Light is Saving since the time of Christ beginning with its first Appearance as Manifesting Sin 2. Condemning of It. 3. Redeeming from It as obeyed And that the same Principle which is called Light is the Seed Grace Truth Word Spirit Power Unction Water Way Life Flesh and Blood and therefore not a Distinct Being from that which T. Hicks himself if he will own plain Scripture must confess doth Save I call it the LIGHT OF SALVATION OR THAT LEADS TO SALVATION But there remain yet several Objections to be Answered which done we shall immediately proceed to give Judgment upon the Question Who or What this Light is with respect to all our Adversaries Cavils Obj. Though you have thus far evinc'd the Universality of a Saving Light from the Scriptures since Christ's Life Death Resurrection and Ascension yet that which is the Pinch of the Controversie will be this Where was this before Light Had any this Saving Light they had a Light before it came in that Eminent Manner above One Thousand Six Hundred Years since It is generally believ'd that Christ's then coming benefitted the World with it in case the World universally hath such a Saving Light To which I shall give my Answer both from Scripture History and Reason The first Scripture I shall quote is in the first of Genesis So God created
make thee Ruler over many things Enter thou into the Joy of thy Lord. Then he which had received One Talent came and said Lord I knew thee that thou art an hard Man Reaping where thou hast not sown and Gathering where thou hast not strawed and I was afraid and went and hid thy Talent in the Earth Lo there thou hast that which is thine His Lord answer'd and said unto him Thou Wicked and Slothful Servant thou knewest that I Reap where I sowed not and Gather where I have not strawed Thou oughtest therefore to have put my Money to the Exchangers and then at my Coming I should have received mine Own with Usury Take therefore the Talent from him and give it unto him which has Ten Talents For unto every one that hath shall be given and he shall have Abundance but from him that has not shall be taken away even that which he hath And cast ye the Unprofitable Servant into utter Darkness there shall be Weeping and Gnashing of Teeth when the Son of Man shall come in his Glory and all the Holy Angels with Him then shall He sit upon the Throne of his Glory and before Him shall be gather'd all Nations and He shall separate them one from another as a Shepherd divideth his Sheep from the Goats and He shall set the Sheep on his Right Hand but the Goats on the Left Serious Reader I have the rather repeated the Scripture at large because of that great Strength it carries methinks to the Conviction at least Confusion of that Narrow Spirit which confines the infinite Goodness of God and renders him whilst he is an Universal Creator but a particular Benefactor shutting up his Gifts within the straight compass of a FEW representing him thereby as partial as some Parents who they know not for what beside their own unequal Wills do frequently bestow their Favour indeed the whole of their Affection upon an Elected Dareling to the manifest though causeless Neglect of the rest But to speak the Truth of the matter the Over-fondness some bear to their own Opinions joyn'd with the Envy raised towards those who conform not to them has so emptied them of all natural Affection that looking upon God in that condition they dare to think him as unnatural as themselves For my part I have not a great while believ'd but that it rather rise from an Unwillingness in some that Dissenters from them should be saved thereby endeavouring a Compliance upon Necessity then that God had not been propitious unto all his Creatures For who sees not who can or will see that God is this Soveraign Lord that he made Mankind to be his Servants that these Three are representative of the whole and to the End they might not be Unprofitable Ones that he gave them Talents to improve against his Return that is against the Day of Recompence for which they are accountable that who improve their Talents may be rewarded and they who make no improvement of their Talents may be punisht with Eternal Separation from the Presence of God and all his Holy Angels I will conclude with these Five Observations 1. That God though it be his Soveraign Prerogative what he will give has given a Talent out of his Celestial Treasury unto every Man and Woman 2. That this Talent is in it self Sufficient but as the best Corn so this Talent put up into a Napkin must needs be Unprofitable yet that the Fault is in the Party Neglecting or Hiding of it not in it self 3. That those who improve not their Talent are most apt to charge God with Reaping where he Sows not as do those Professors we have to do with who make God to require an Account of all and yet deny in order to rendring up this Account with Joy that he has given all a Talent Sufficient thereunto 4. That the Eternal Estate of Men and Women as Sheep and Goats purely depends upon their Improving or not Improving of that Heavenly Talent wherewith God has indu'd them Lastly Neither is there any Shelter for these Parsimonious Men or their Hide-bound Faith under the Inequality of the Number of the Talents for it is not how many Talents are given but what Improvement is made of what is given Wherefore greater is his Reward who makes one Talent Three then his who of Ten advances but to Fifteen since the one makes but Half whilst the other makes Treble Improvement Blessed therefore are you all and will you assuredly be in the Day of the Lord's Recompence who disregarding the Vanities Pleasures Cares and Fleshly Religions of the World diligently mind your own Talent and are in the Pure Wisdom and Holy Counsel of the Lord making your daily Improvement of the same laying up Treasure in the High and Heavenly Place that is Durable and Everlasting V. This reasonable Truth is yet further manifest from the weighty Words of our Lord Jesus Christ For every one that doth Evil hateth the Light neither comes to the Light lest his Deeds should be reproved To which I would add that of the Apostle Whatsoever is reproved is made manifest by the Light Certainly then unless Men will be so Unjust to God as to think contrary to Scripture and Reason He should let Millions of Men and Scores of Generations live in Sin without a Light to shew it them or a Law to limit them it must be yielded that they had Light and Law in their Hearts and Consciences by which they were Convicted of Sin and such as obey'd it led to work Righteousness since their Refusing to bring their Deeds to the Light was not an Act of Ignorance but Design because they knew their Deeds would be Condemn'd and they for them which loudly asserts that they both had a Light and knew they had it though they Rebell'd against it And if I should grant that whatever was reproveable was not made manifest unto them yet this will no wayes hinder the Capacity of the Light to do it 'T is evident That some things which the Gentiles did were reprov'd therefore they had the Light And if they had it not in all the Extent of its Revelation the Light was no more to be blamed then that Guide whose Passengers therefore could not arrive at their Journey 's End because they never would begin at least proceed Had the Heathens been Faithful to what they had of God in themselves and not been blinded by the Vain Idolatries and Superstitious Traditions of their Fathers they had more fully known and learn'd the Mind and Will of their Creator which some of those Gentiles notwithstanding did as will yet further appear VI. Thus the Apostle Paul teaches us to believe in that remarkable Passage of his in the first Chapter to the Romans For I am not Asham'd of the Gospel of Christ For it is the Power of God unto Salvation to every one that believeth to the Jew first and also to the Greek For therein is
here inserted testifie X. ANTISTHENES one of Socrates's School expressing himself as it were Clem. Alex. Strom. L. 5 That thou mayst know that there is none like Me in all the Earth saith God Exod. 9. 14. 8. 10. Who in Heaven can be Compared unto the Lord who among the Sons of the Mighty can be Likened unto the Lord Psal. 89. 6. by way of Paraphrase that Prophetick Saying Whom have ye likened me unto saith the Lord thus speaks He is like none because no Man can know him from a Likeness or Image By which we may perceive he did not believe him to be an Image who could not be known by an Image nor any thing that could be seen with Carnal Eyes a Step beyond the Romanists that teach the Knowledge of as they darkly Fancy by Images XI PLATO also Schollar to Socrates and whom the Greeks for his Heavenly Contemplation and Pious Life surnam'd Divine gives us his Faith of God in these words God is FIRST ETERNAL I am the Alpha and the Omega the First the Last Rev. 22. 13. Thou art the Everlasting God Isa. 40 The Way of the Lord is Perfect Psal. 80 30. He is a Rock his Work is Perfect for all his Ways are Judgment A God of Truth and without Iniquity Just Right is he Deutr. 23. 4 For I am the Lord Isa. 45. 5 I Change not Mal. 3. 6. INEFFABLE PERFECT IN HIMSELF that is needing none and ever Perfect that is absolute in all Times and every way perfect that is absolute in every part Divinity Essence Truth Harmony Good Neither do we so name these to distinguish one from the other but rather by them all to understand one He is said to be GOOD because he bestows his Benefits upon all according to their several Capacities and so is the Cause of all Good FAIR because he is in Essence both More Better and Equal TRUTH because he is the Principle of all Truth as the Sun is of all Light Moreover God not having many Parts can neither be locally mov'd nor alter'd by Qualities For if he be alter'd it must be done by himself or some other if by some other that Other must be of greater Power then he if by Himself it must be either to Better or to Worse both which are Absurd From all these it Follows That God is Incorporeal and by all which it is evident how True and how Reasonable and how Firm a Belief Plato had of One Eternal Being and Father of all XII And Lyricus MELANIPPIDES praying saith Clem. Alex. Hear me O Father thou Wonder of Strom. L. 5. Exod. 1. 15 11. Psalm 136. 4 5 6. Men who alwayes Covernest the Living Soul This plainly preaches to us their Belief of One Eternal God XIII PARMENEDES Magnus as saith Plato in Clem. Alex. Sophista writes concerning God on Strom. L. 5. Thy Throne is establisht of Old thou art from Everlasting Psal. 93. 2. Jehovah is Everlasting Isa. 26. 4. this wise He is not Begotten neither is he lyable to any Death like a Chain whose Links are Whole Round and alwayes Firm and Void of a Beginning What was this but the Eternal God by whom all things were made the First and the Last XIV ZENO a Grave and Wise Philosopher who instituted the Way of the Stoicks but not of Vertue both the Cynicks and Stoicks mostly teaching such Doctrine as tended to good Life may well be said to have been the Followers of Socrates the ExcellentMan of his time only they a little differed themselves by some particular Severities too Voluntary which the Mild Serious and Unaffected Piety of Socrates gave them no Encouragement to though none of them trod in a more Self-denying Path then History tells us he walkt in This Zeno and his Disciples were Vigorous â—…sserters of One Infinite and Eternal God as by their Doctrines may appear Zeno tells us That God is an Immortal Being Rational Laert. Perfect or Intellectual in Now to the King Eternal Immortal Invisible the Only Wise God be Honour and Glory forever 1 Tim. 1. 17. The Rich and Poor meet together the Lord is the Maker of them all Pro. 22. 2. Come now let us Reason together saith the Lord Isa. 1. 18. Be ye Holy for I the Lord your God am Holy Levit. 11. 44. One God and Father of all of whom are all things Ephes. 4. 6. 1 Cor. 8. 16. Who is a God like Aristot. de Xen. unto thee Exod. 15. 4. The Almighty is Excellent in Power Job 37. 23. And his Kingdom rules over all Psal. 103. 19. Beatitude void of all Evil provident over the World and things in the World Not of Humane Form MAKER OF ALL AS IT WERE FATHER OF ALL. Again God and the Power of God is such as that it governs but is not governed It governeth all things so that if there were any thing more Excellent He could not possibly be God This was Zeno's Faith of God which I cannot believe that Tho. Hicks himself has so far abandon'd all Reason as to censure for False or Idolatrous that he Taught It as well as Thought It. Let us hear some of his Followers XV. CHRYSIPPUS also avers as his Belief of a Laert. de Ira Dei c. 10. God that the World was made by him consequently he believed there was one For if Lord thou art God which hast made Heaven and Earth and all that in them is Acts 4. 24. God that made the World Psal. 90. 2. All Nations are unto God but as a Drop to the Bucket and the Dust to the Ballance Isa. 40. 11 15. saith he there be any thing which can procrâ—…ate such Beings as Man indued with Reason is unable to produce that doubtless must needs be Stronger and Greater and Wiser then Man but a Man cannot make the Celestial things therefore that which made them transcended Man in Art Counsel Prudence and Power And what can that be but GOD Thus far Chrysippus the Stoick in reference to God But again XVI ANTIPATER a Famous Serious and Accute Stoick in his Discourse of God and the World declares Plut. himself to us after this manner Plat. phaed. God is a Spirit John Antip. de Mund. l. 7. 4. 24. In whom are hid all the Treasures of Wisdom Knowledg Col. 2..8 Of the Incorruptible God Rom. 1. 23. The Lord is Good to all and his tender Mercies are over all his Works Psal. 85. 9. God is not far away from every one of us Acts 17. 27. We understand by that which we call God A SPIRIT full of INTELLIGENCE or WISDOM a Living Nature or DIVINE SUBSTANCE Blessed and INCORRUPTIBLE doing good to Mankind PRESENT THROUGH THE WHOLE WORLD receiving several Denominations from the DIVERSITY OF HIS APPEARANCES and the various Operations and Effects of his Divine Power shewn therein Which kind of Evangelical Definition may very rightly induce us to
Consideration that Men perish for Want of it and can no more arrive at Truth without it then the distressed Mariner can gain his Port who sailes without either Star or Compass I shall begin with an Explanation of the Terms Rule and Faith of which we shall first treat that we may as well express what we intend by the one as what we mean by the other which will be a proper Introduction to the whole Discourse By General Rule c. we understand that Constant Measure or Standard by which Men have been in all Ages enabled to Judge of the Truth or Error of Doctrines and the Good or Evil of Thoughts Words and Actions By Faith we understand an Assent of the Mind in such manner to the Discoveries made of God thereto as to resign up to God and have Dependence upon him as the Great Creator and Saviour of his People which is inseparable from good Works That Men in all Ages have had a Belief of God and some Knowledge of him though not upon equal Discovery must be granted from that account that all Story gives us of Mankind in matters of Religion several have fully performed this Ofold Justin Martyr Clemens Alexandrinus Augustine and others of later times Du Plessy Grotius Amiraldus L. Herbert with many more And indeed the reliques we have of the most ancient Historians and Authors are a Demonstration in the Point Now the Scripture tells us that no Man knows the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son reveals him And as none knows the things of Man save the Spirit of Man so the things of God knows no Man but the Spirit of God Hence we may safely conclude that the Creating Word that was with God and was God in whom was Life and that Life the Light of Men who is the Quickning Spirit was He by whom God in all Ages must have been revealed consequently that Light or Spirit hath been the General Rule of mens Knowledge Faith and Obedience with respect to God And thus much Pythagoras that liv'd about Six Hundred Years before those Words were spoak or writ laid down for a Maxim viz. That no man can know what is agreeable to God except a man hear God himself that is within for that was his Doctrine To which the Apostle and Prophet thus agree 1. In that whatever makes manifest is Light 2. That whatever might be known of God was manifest within for God who is Light 1 Joh. 1. 5. had shewn it unto them And God hath shewn unto thee O Man what is good and acceptable c. which could not be without his Light shining in Man's Conscience Therefore the Light of God in the Conscience must needs have been the general Rule c. It was by this Law that Enoch Noah Abraham Melchisedeck Abimeleeh Job Jethro c. walked and were accepted as saith Irenaeus Tertullian They were Just by the Law written in their Hearts then was it their Rule to and in that just State Obj. It seems then you deny the Scripture to be the General Rule c. Answ. How can they be the General Rule that have not been General That which was both before and since they were in being must needs be more general then they But that was this Light in the Conscience the Law and Guide of those Patriarchs for the Scriptures began long after in Moses consequently that must be the general Rule c. Obj. But granting that the Light within were so before Scripture was extant yet since the Writing of holy Scripture the Scripture and not the Light hath been the general Rule Answ. That cannot be unless Palestina or Canaan a little Province of Asia was the whole World and the Jews a particular People all Mankind For at what time the Writings were among the Jews other Nations were only left to the Law and Light within This the Apostle confirmeth in that Passage For the Gentiles which have not the Law that is the outward Law or Law written do by Nature the things conteined in the Law which sheweth the Work of the Law written in their Hearts And the Gentiles themselves called it the immutable Law the everlasting Foundation of Vertue no liveless Precepts but immortal a sacred Good God the Overseer the living Rule the Root of the Soul that which makes the Good Man Thus Thales Pythagoras Socrates Plato Plotin Hieron Philo Plutarch as cited And saith Sophocles God grant that I may alwaies observe that venerâ—…ble Sanctity in my Words and Deeds which these noble Precepts writ 〈◊〉 Mans Heart requâ—…re God is their Father neither shall they ever be abrogated for there is in them a GREAT GOD that never waxeth Old More reverent Epithetes then John Faldo and T. Hicks can afford as their Books too openly witness yet would go for Christian-men though manifestly short of Heathens Thus is it evident that the Scripture was not the general Rule aâ—…ter it was given forth Obj. But hath it not been since and is it not now the general Rule c Answ. There hath been since and is now the same Impediment for before Christ's coming in the Flesh and since where the Scriptures never reach d there hath been the same Light And though Nations through not glorifying God as God when they have known him have bin so given up to all manner of Impieties as that their Understandings have been greatly vail'd yet did not the Light within so wholely loose its Ruling Exercise among them as that they lived without any Sence of such thing Therefore still the Scriptures have not been neither are the General Rule no not so much as of any Age since in no Age can it be prov'd that the whole World was furnished with them But had they been so for some one or two Ages as they never were yet the granting it will not reach our Question where the Word General implieth the Nature of the Thing it self respecting Mankind from the Beginning to this Day and so to the End Obj. But is not the Scripture the Rule c. of our Day Answ. If The Rule then the General Rule for whatsoever is The Rule of Faith and Life excludeth all other from being General they being but particular in respect of it self Therefore not The Rule of Faith and Life But besides their not being Cenetal I have several Reasons to offer why they cannot be The Rule of Faith and Life c. 1. If now the Rule then ever the Rule But they were not ever the Rule and therefore they cannot now be the Rule That they were not ever the Rule is granted But that they are not therefore now the Rule may be by some denyed which I shall prove If the Faith of God's People in all Ages be of one Nature then the Rule but of one Nature But clear it is Heb. 11. The Faith has been but of one Nature Consequently the Rule but of one Nature
a certain Decision and if not a certain one then none to the Purpose Nor ought any Person no otherwise judged that is perswaded of the Truth of his Cause to let fall his Belief upon so fallible a Determination since he not only moves without Conviction but against Conviction And which is worse he is not ascertained of the Truth of what he is required to submit to Therefore of all People they are most condemnable who keep so great a stir about Religion and that sometimes use coercive Means to compass their designed Uniâ—…ormity and yet acknowledge to us they are not certain of their own Faith unless it be those who notwithstanding yield to such uncertain Imposers Since then the Judge must be infallible it will be worth our while to consider where ' this insallible Judge is to be found There is none Good but God said God himself when manifested in the Flesh that is originally or as of himself so truly there is none infaltible but God as of himself yet as the supream Good is communicated unto man according to measure so well sayes Bp. Latiâ—…er is there infallibility Certainty or Assurance of the Truth of things given to man according to Capacity otherwise men should be oblieg'd to believe and obey and that upon Damnation those things concerning which there can be no Certainty whether they be true or false Immanuel God with men as he is their Rule so their Judge he is the Law-giver and therefore the best Irterpreter of any Point that may concern his own Law and men are so far infallible as they are subject to his Voice Light or Spirit in them and no farther for humanum est errare Man is Errable Nor can any thing rescue him out of Error or preserve him from the Infections of it but the sound or certain Judgment God by his Light or Spirit within assists him with Obj. But is not the Scripture the Judge of Controversie Answ. How can that be since the Qâ—…estion most times arises about the Meaning of Scripture Is there any place tells us without all Interpretation whether the Socinian or Trinitarian be in the Right in their differing Apprehensions of the Three that bear Record c also the Homousian and Arrian about Christ's Divinity or the Papists or Protestants about Trans-substantiation If then things are undefined and undetermined I mean expresly in the Scripture and that the Question arises about the Sense of it doth the Scripture determine which of those Interpreters hit the Mark As this is absurd to think so must it be acknowledged that if Interpretation decide the Matter in Controversie not the Scripture but the Interpreter is the Judge Now this Interpreter must either interpret by his own meer Wisdom or Spirit called by the Apostle 1 Cor. 2. II. the Spirit of a Man who by weighing the Text consulting the Intent of the Writer comparing places together gives the Judgment which the Scripture cannot do or from the Spirit of God which gives Understanding as Job 3â—… 8. and as the same Apostle saith searcheth the deep things of God If the first then a Fallible If the last then an Infalâ—…ible Judge I would sain know whether it was the Scripture or the Holy Ghost that presided among the Apostles when they were come together Acts 15. when they said It seemeth good to the â—…oly Chost and to us c. If the Holy Ghost give us a plain Scripture to prove we are to have another Judge now If not then we must have the same and consequently an Infallible Judge Obj. 'T is granted that the Spirit is Infallible But how shall I know that any man determines a thing by this Spirit and does not rather obtrude his own Sense upon us under that specious Pretence Answ. By the same Spirit As well said Gualt Cradock The Way to know whether the Spirit be in us is its own Evidence And that is the Way to know it in others too and the man hat hath the Spirit may know the Spirit in another There is saith be a kind of Sagacity in the Saints to this Purpose Which is also true in the Sense of abundance of Pâ—…otestant Writers For as they held That no man could know the Scriptures but by the same Spirit so consequently that the same Spirit only could assure him of the Truth of the said Iâ—…terpretation And Peter Martyr as before quoted tells us The Holy Ghost is the Arbiter or Judge Also D. J. Owen sâ—…ith That the Holy Ghost is the Only Authentick Interpreter of the Scripture Iâ—… Authentick then Infallible if Infallible then the Judge of the Mind of Scripture is both an Only and an 〈◊〉 Judge But to wave this Does not the same Objection lie agaâ—…st the Sense of Scripture since one sayes this is the Sense and another that To know God's Mind men must come to God's Spirit else Difficulties of that sort are unsurmountable In short It were greatly to be wisht that all men would hold themselves unconcerned in disputing about what they have not received an Infallible Dictamen from the Holy Spirit upon since they beat but the Air and obtain no solid Satisfaction neither can they God never prostrates his Secrets to Minds disobedient to what they do already know Let all practise what they assuredly know to be their Duty and be sparing in their search after nice and unknown Matters Weighty and seasonable was and is the Apostle's Saying Nevertheless whereunto we have already attained let us walk by the same Rule where he both limits to the present Knowledge communicated and exhorts to live up to that and if any thing be further necessary God in due time will reveal it by his Spirit that gives to know discern and judge of the things that are of God Obj. But how will this determin the Controversie and allay the Fury of Debates on foot Answ. Nothing like it if man adhere to it and if he does not there is no way left but the Wrath that is to be reveal'd But most Perswasions are agreed about the absolute Necessaries in Religion from that Witness God has placed in man's Conscience viz. That God is That he is a Rewarder of them that diligently seek him That the Way of God is a Way of Purity Patience Meekne ss c. without which no man can see the Lord Nay they accord in some considerable Matters superadded as some of them speak to wit That God manifested himself extraordinarily in the Flesh that he gave his Life for the World that such as believe and obey his Grace receive Remission of Sins and Life Everlasting Now I say since these things men generally submit to let them live up hereunto and forbear wanton Scrutinies after Things or Notions that gender to Strife and Contention and leave not Mankind better but rather worse then they found them and the World would be soon rid of Controversie Holy Living and not Disputing would be the Business of
corruptly and disingenuously against the Light within but I ask T. H. if the Light within him doth not at some times reprove him for his Passion Envy and Railing which ill becomes a Man professing the Patience and Sufferings of Christ No Man can have a sufficient Light to guide him to Salvation that hath not the Spirit of God because no man can understand the things of God but he that hath the Spirit of God but all men have not the Spirit of God therefore all men have not a sufficient Rule to Salvation because all Men have not the Spirit Answ. By this he hath granted the Spirit of God and Light of it to be a sufficient Guide and Rule to Salvation and to bring man to understand the things of God but how well this agrees with their Doctrine That the Scriptures are the only Rule of Faith and Practicâ—… and not the Spirit nor Light in man and that the Bible is the means of knowing God I refer to the understanding Reader to judge of And what though all men have not the Spirit either in the Union or Possession of it as their Rule can no man have it that thus hath it not already Seeing he concludes that no man can have a sufficient Light to guide him to Salvation that hath not the Spirit what can no man have it Is it not then to be had and yet 't is granted to be the Saint's Rule whenas that which is the Saint's Rule ought to be every man's Rule because every man ought to be a Saint wherefore God hath afforded some divine Light to every man whereby he may be led out of Darkness call upon God obtain Life receive the Spirit which he giveth to them that ask and become Saint for God is ready to give the Spirit to them that truely ask it which only man can do by a Light of it His Argument that all men have not the Spirit is no Proof that every man is not enlightened by Christ for those are said not to have the Spirit who live not to God in it but in Sensuality Jude 19. and yet such were said to be twice dead ver 12. which they could not have been if they had never been quickened yet being twice dead pluckt up by the Roots they are become sensual having not the Spirit i. e. in the Knowledge Rule Exercise and Union of it But whether shall I go from thy Spirit or whether shall I flee from thy Presence Psa. 139. 7. and upon whom doth not his Light arise when every man that cometh into the World is enlightened by Christ. The Light within cannot be ae sufficient Rule because it is made the Character of a wicked Man to do what is right in his own Eyes and to walk after his own Imaginations then that which they do account their Duty may be their Wickedness highest Wickedness and an Argument of God's severe Curse upon them it s said he gave them up to strong Delusions to believe a Lye Answ. Doth then the wicked man follow the Light within him as his Rule in doing what 's right in his own Evil Eyes and in walking in his own Imaginations Or doth God bring such a severe Curse â—…pon any as the giving up to strong Delusions for walking after or following the Light within How horribly blasphâ—…mous is it either to suppose or imply these things against the Light within to prove it an Insufficient Rule as this man argues placing not only Uncertainties the various Opinions Thoughts and Imaginations of wicked men upon the Light within but their Wickedness and highest Wickedness if they own it their Duty his Argument blasphemously places it upon the Light within most blindly confounding wicked men's Imaginations Wickedness which the Devil is the Author of with the Light in every man without distinction wherein Ranter like he puts Darkness for Light and Light for Darkness which wo is to them that doth Isa. 5. 20. Whereas they that follow their own vain Imaginations and are given up to strong delusions to believe a Lye as T. H. doth are such as have rebelled against the Light rejected the Truth have not glorified God as God nor liked to retain him in their Knowledge see Job 24. 13. Rom. 1. 21. 28. because they obeyed not the Gospel noâ—… received the Love of the Truth that they might be saved God gave them over to strong Delusions and took Vengeance on them 2 Thes. 1. 8. and Chap. 2. 10 11. Therefore God did afford both a sufficient Light Rule and tendred the Love of the Truth to them as he doth to all else how should they be left without Excuse seeing it is a Righteous thing with God to recompence and render Vengeancâ—… on them that know him not for their disobedience It cannot be consistent with his Righteousness in Judgment to bring Tribulation and Anguish upon every Soul that doth Evil or to judge the Secrets of Men by Christ according to the Gospel without ever affording them a Lght of the Gospel or Gospel Nature sufficient to discover Evil and direct to Good and how can Indignation and Wrath come upon them that are Contentious and obey not the Truth but obey Unrighteousness if the Truth did never reach to or enlighten them or how should their not obeying the Truth but Unrighteousness be charged upon them if the Truth were never afforded them Therefore by the same Reason that its confest that God wil render to every man according to his Deeds that there is no Respect of Persons with God it ought to be also confessed or owned that he doth afford to every man a Light of Truth Righteousness sufficient for a Rule to escape Sin and Evil and the Wrath that 's due for it and to direct man unto patient continuance in Well doing to seek for Glory and Immortality that he might obtain eternal Life Glory see consider Rom. 2. throughout which sufficiently signifies 1. The Goodness of God to Man 2. His dispencing of his Grace and Truth to all 3. How Impartial he is Righteous in his Judgment against the disobedient and rebellious who despise his Goodness and thereby bring Wrath upon themselves 4. The acceptance of the Gentiles who obeyed that Law or Light given them though they had not the Law in the Letter of it Wherefore now moderate Reader take notice that the very Ground of our asserting the universal Extent of Saving Grace sufficient Light to Man-kind is 1. The unspeakable Love and Goodness of God as in himself he being Love in the highest 2. His unwillingness that Man should either live or die in Sin he having no Pleasure in the Death of Sinners but rather that they should return and live 3. That he so loved the World that he sent his Son into the World that whosoever believes in him might not perish but have Everlasting Life in that he sent not his Son into the World to condemn
the World but that the World through him might be saved These weighty Considerations we have all along respect to in our asserting sufficient Grace or Light to be afforded of God to Mankind If the Light within be a sufficient Rule then no Man ought to repent of his Ignorant worshiping of the true God or of his worshiping a false God Nor ought men to repent of their Acts of Cruelty against the Saints wherin they think they do wel act according to their Light Nor ought the Quakers to repent of their Inhuman Actions of walking naked for they think in so doing they do well and act according to their Light therefore the Light within is not a sufficient Rule Answ. Still the man goes on in an absolute Strain of apparent Ranterism gross Inconsistencies and Blasphemous Inferences against the Light within while he renders it neither a sufficient Rule to discover Truth or Error in matter of Worship nor to lead men to repent of Idolatry Wickedness or Acts of Cruelty against the Saints but their thinking they do well therein this he deems according to their Light and all this to shew that the Light within which the Quakers preach is an insufficient Rule But it s then Non-sense in him to account it any Real Light at all by those his Discriptions of it before which one while renders the Light within so defective so mutable and so insignificant as a meer Nullity another while no better then Darkness it self another while the Author of Sin and Wickedness as being according to their Light What horrible Madness and gross Darkness hath the Devil led these Opposers into His accusing the Quakers with Inhuman Actions of walking naked 1st As it s in general its fals â—…or its neither a general Practice among us nor the constant Practice of any It was only some few particulars that have had a peculiar Burthen laid upon them to go naked for a Sign to such Hypocritical Professors as oppose and rebell against the Light within and are covered but not with the Spirit of the Lord that God would rent their false Coverings and discover their Shame and Nakedness as it is manifest at this Day So that its evident that some who have been made such Signs as before were therein true Prophers against a Generation of Envious Hyppocrites and Persecutors 2. His asserting that walking naked is an Inhuman Action as his Charge is general it s not true that all going naked is Inhuman but where corruptly intended for some Evil or Inhuman Act or End for 1st Were Adam and Eve Inhuman in their being naked when they were not ashamed being Innocent Gen. 2. 25. for the Shame came after Transgression from which came the Inhumanity 2ly When the Spirit of God was upon Saul it s said he stript of his Clothes also and prophesied before Samuel and lay down naked all that Day and all that Night wherefore they say is Saul also amongst the Prophets 1 Sam. 19. 23 24. It appears then that going naked was not counted such an Inhuman Action among the Prophets see also how Esaiah was made to be a Sign and a Wonder upon Aegypt and Aethiopiah Esa. Chap. 20. and so what know you but that the Lord hath made some of his Servants Signs and Wonders against many in Spiritual Aegypt and Bondage however covered with a Profession and Pretence of being redeemed as true Jews Partakers of Gospel and Church Priviledges of Spiritual Canaan whilst yet in Spiritual Sodom Aegypt and Babylon where both our Lord hath been Spiritually crucified and the Blood of his Prophets sound Here follows T. H. his after-Charge 1st And that the whole Religion and Principles of that People called Quakers wherein they difference themselves from others is of the Devil witness my Hand Thomas Hicks This Charge is not only General but also very dark and most disingenuous For if by OTHERS he means ALL OTHERS he should have specified those Principles wherein we differ from all others and produced his Proof But if by others he mean only his own Sect called Anabaptists then he hath made a very rigid Conclusion against all others differing from them that their whole Religion and Principles wherein they differ from Anabaptists are of the Devil 2dly They that deny the Resurrection of that Body that was committed unto Dust overthrows all Religion he saith To which I say these Baptists that affirm it of the same Carnal Body after turned to Dust and yet that it cannot be a New-Created Body and that the Body which God giveth to every Seed is the same Body as T. H. in his Dialogue doth Pag. 58. 59. with others of his Brethren they affirm they know not what and that which they can never give a reasonable or a convincing Demonstration of being also contrary to that Scripture 1 Cor. 15. 37 38 40 50. and while they make this their Opinion the Ground of their Religion and future Happiness their Religion is Carnal and their Opinion Non-sensical and their Foundation Sandy being grounded upon Dust and they themselves are very Ignorant of the Mystery of the Resurrection as will further appear hereafter upon the full Disquission of this weighty matter THE CHRISTIAN-QUAKER AND HIS Divine Testimony VIDICATED In a more particular and direct Answer to the Baptist's Dialogue Section I. The Light Within proved Divine and Saving c. FIrst That there is a divine Light in every man which is of a saving Property in its self and therefore sufficient to guide and direct man to God and so to Salvation And for its being a divine Light I have urged Joh. 1. 4. In him was Life and the Life was the Light of Men. Secondly That this Light is the certain Guide and Rule to true Believers in matters of Faith Spiritual Worship and Obedience to God and therefore that which can give a right Understanding of the Holy Scriptures These our Assertions are chiefly quarelled at by T.H. and some of his Brethren though he very smoothly pretends not to cavil but that he may understand the Truth as desiring to know First What this Salvation is 2dly What this Light is 3dly Who they are that do obey this Light and in obeying attain Salvation pag. 2. To which I answer It both hath appeared and will appear against thee T. H. that thy Envy and Cavilling hath kept thee from the right Understanding and Knowledge of the Light and Salvation that thou art now to seek at this time of Day And yet sayest that all thou intendest is my Conviction and Recovery as in thy 10th p. when as yet the Darkness covers thee and keeps thee from the right understanding of Truth But if thou hadst obeyed the Light of Christ within thee thou wouldst have known both its Power and Sufficiency unto Salvation and that this Salvation which it leads to is Christ who is both Redemption and Salvation to them who follow him in his Light from Darkness Sin and Defilement
by thee in shunning those many Evils thou art checkt for and performing the good to which it excites thee thou wouldst both know and speak better of it then thou dost as that which both moves and leads in the Way to Salvation which is from Sin here and from Wrath hereafter and so unto Christ who is the Giver of it But it is probable thou thinkst thou art an elect Person and so in thy Presumption slites the Light within as not only Insufficient of it self to guide unto Salvation but also as a mis-guiding Light And this Doctrine herein opposeth thy Maker and his Universal good to Man-kind How then thinkest thou that the Rebellious can be left without Excuse or God be known to be clear when he judges Sect. V. The Dipper proved a Blind Guide and in gross Confusion in undervaluing the Light within T. H. DId the Light in Saul reprove him for persecuting the Church Doth not he himself confess that he verily thought he ought to do many things against the Name of Jesus Yea doth not Christ tell his Disciples that some would kill them and yet think they did God Service But how could they think so if this Light in them did reprove for it p. 8 9. Answ. Thou having asserted that there are some Sins which the Light reproves not among these thou instancest namely persecuting the Church doing many things against the Name of Jesus killing the Disciples and therefore concludes it no sufficient Rule O! thou blind Guide how darest thou thus accuse and undervalue the Light of Christ within contrary to thy many Concessions elsewhere Is Christ the Life and Light of men And yet does not his Light reprove Persecution and Murther If it reprove not these what are the Evils it checks for What rational Man cannot see thy manifest Folly herein thus to confound Persecutors evil Thoughts with the Light within and to conclude the Light within no sufficient Rule because of some mens Wickedness who have rebelled against the Light and therein thou hast put Darkness for Light And what were the Pricks that were hard for Saul to kick against And where was that Holy Ghost which the Persecutor alwayes resisted Act. 7 Their Envious and superstitious Minds and dark Thoughts were not the Light but such as clouded and obscured the Light in them yet the Kingdom of Heaven was in those Jews and so much divine Light in those Heathen as shewed them that there was a true and unknown God to be worshipped with sincere Hearts and pure minds and that in him we live and move and have our Being had they waited in that Light and listened to it they would both truely have known God his Way and Worship as some did If all things that are reproved are made manifest by the Light how dost thou exclude those gross Sins of Persecution and Murder from being reproved by the Light And why dost thou argue against it from mens persecuting and murtherous Thoughts which arise from their Enmity and Rebellion against the Light But further I argue against thee on the Behalf of the Light viz. That its manifesting all things that are reproved is in order to guide men out of all reprovable Wayes which if they be guided out of they are in their Duty For where man is not reproveable for any thing he is in his whole Duty and so in the right Way T. H. Did the Light in the Heathen-Philosophers check them for multiplying their Deityes and for not believing that Jesus is the Christ Or did it reprove them for their manifold Superstitions And were they thereby directed to the right Way of worshipping the true God I demand an Instance among the many Thousands of Man-kind c. p. 9. Answ. That which might be known of God which was manifest in the Heathen and which did open the Eyes of many clearly to see the eternal Power and God head Rom. 1. that was able to direct them into the right Way of worshipping the true God for the reason why many run into Superstition and to multiply Gods was because that when they knew God they Glorified him not as God but became vaine in their Imaginations Rom. 1. which was their Sin and not any Defect of the Light given them from above for that Light which gave them the Knowledge of the true God was therefore able to direct them into the right Way of worshipping him And whereas thou demandest an Instance among the many Thousands of Man-kind that hath been convinced or reproved for not believing Jesus to be the Christ by the meer Light within before any Light of Revelation was brought unto them p. 9. Thou still persists in thy dull course of begging the question while thou takest it for granted that the Light within is but a Creature or natural and so not any absolute revealing Light But this I cannot grant thee while it is revealing God and his eternal Power to man that waits in it However thou slites it under thy frequent Phrase Meer Light within though it be neither opposed to the Spirit nor Revelation as thou wouldst have it while it is Divine and Spiritual And that thousands of Man-kind are reproved for not believing in the Son of God is evident by the Spirit of Truth reproving the World of Sin because they believe not in the Son of God in that they do not believe in his Life or Light within they do not believe in him who is the Giver of it and therefore reproved by the Spirit and surely many Thousands are comprehended in this World of Unbelievers Sect. VI. His Ignorance of the Divine Principle T. H. I Grant that the Light in thee may reprove for those Sins the common Light in all Man-kind will not because thou hast borrowed much Light from the Scriptures p. 9. Answ. It s evident thou understands not the Principle of divine Light within from what thou hast borrowed from the Scriptures with thy Imaginations perverting them wherein is thy great Darkness thou egregiously mistakeest a litteral Notion and Historical Faith for the divine Light within which is given to all which is a pure Incorruptible and Unchangeable Principle of Life and Truth immediately given and shining from Christ the Eternal Word and not mens acquired Notions from the History of Christ's outward Manifestation in the Flesh. But in thy gross Ignorance thou exalts such Acquirements of men above the Principle of Light within And so mens Historical Profession of the Scriptures as their only Rule though they much differ in their meanings therein which they make their Rule many times above the Scriptures and above the Gift of God this is a great Error of you Litteral Professors Thou wouldst not be pleased should I alledge your various Opinions upon the Scriptures to prove them no sufficient Rule though thus thou art pleased contradictorily to deal with the Light within Had the Princes of this World obeyed the Light of Christ within they would not have crucified
Creatures Part whose mind is alienated from the Light the Insufficiency is not in any degree of the Light it self as a Rule but they that are turned to it ought solely to depend upon it in it to know and receive the Light of Life and Power from Christ against Sin and the Devil As for John Story and our Friends refusing to be catechized by thee when thou hadst accused them they might very well while thy catechizing argued want of Proof for thy Charge and a Willingness to draw out some Occasion from them therefore they had the Advantage to discover thy foolish Rashness And thou hast made use of divers other lying Pamphlets to prove thy Falshoods against us in many things and hast raked up in thy Dialogue Slanders out of our Adversaries Writings which have been long since answered Reader be pleased to view over these two Accounts touching the Controversy between Tho. Hicks and John Story that It may be understood how Sillyly Tho. Hicks came off about his false Charge against the Quakers Devizes the 21st of the 11th Month 1672. THe Occasion and Substance as I remember of what past between John Story and T. Hicks at Bromham boâ—…se was as followeth viz. A Friend of ours visiting some of her Relations that were Baptists in the Vize some Discourse passed of the Fewness that was converted of late Years to which Tho. Hicks said it is not now a time for Conversion the Friend answered she believed otherwise for many had been converted within these few Years by the People called Quakers the Quakers said Hicks their Conversion is but from Christianism to Heathenism which the Friend said was not so but he pretended he would prove it and came to the Meeting where John Story layd his false Accusation hard upon him either to prove it or confess his Lye but he sought many Wayes to evade it at length Hicks and an outed Priest that came with him produced a Book a Priest's Book as was conceived in which as they said was contained many Errors collected out of our Friend's Books John Story replyed to this Purpose that we shall take no notice of what is printed or mis-represented of our Principles but we shall claim that Priviledge to state our Principles our selves and to present them as we understand them And in some Discourse about the Light John Story laid it down as our Principle that the true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the World is sufficient for Salvation c. But Hicks not willing to be beat out of his own Road raised many Intergatories which some Friends of ours reproving said they needed not or did not come to be catechizâ—…d of him but pressed him to answer the matter in Controversie and not permitting their Arguments out of the Book they brought Hicks and his Company rose up and went away with a Lye in their Mouthes which was that our Friends did deny their Principles Samuel Noyes Chippenham the 15th of the 11th Month 1672. IT s known here that the matter to be disputed was Hicks ' s own Assertion under his Hand which he promised to pâ—…ve viz. that the Quakers converted from Christianism to Heathenism and John Story to make an Introduction into the Dispute after the People understood the matter to be disputed opened to the People what must be understood by Christianity according to the Saints Testimony and what by Heathenism according to holy Scripture as to both their Wayes and Worships by that Hicks found himself at a loss and surely felt his own Words his Burthen and strugled much to avoid the proving his Charge though given under his own Hand but Truth bruised his Head and held him fast God's Power and Wisdom was manifested above the Serpent then he pulled out a Priest's Book and read that which he called the Quakers Tenet which either the Priest had wronged in his Book or Hicks in reading or the Printer in printing viz. that the Light in every man is sufficient without any other Councellor to guide unto Salvation leaving out the two Words of Christ it should have been the Light of Christ or that true Light which lighteth every man that cometh into the World is sufficient So our Friends answered they came not there to be catechised by him but to hear him to prove if he could that the Quakers converted from Christianism to Heathenism and said that Book in his hand was a lying Book so the Weight of Judgment in the Truth came upon him These are the Heads of the matter and manner of the Dispute so far as Friends here at present remember Take this at present lest John Story 's Information come not in time Thomas Neate William Dyer Sect. XVI The Baptist's Disparagement of the Light within contrary to his own Pretence AFter thou hast pretended no Disparagement to the Light within to say that God makes any thing more known of his Will c. for each degree of Light is serviceable to its end p. 36. wherein though thou hast granted the Difference to be but in the degrees of Light and not in the kind yet mark what thou sayst afterwards in thy 38. pag. viz. T. H. What intollerable Pride and Arogancy have you arrived to And all this in following as you pretend the Conduct of the Light within improving it to the subverting and anihilating the Covenant of Grace which is the only Way God hath revealed since the Fall for the Salvation of Sinners Surely then this Light which instead of directing what you do in a Way of Subserviency to the Ends of this Covenant doth directly oppose it is in that so far from being a sufficient Rule that it ought to be rejected Answ. Are all these no disparagement to the Light within let the ingenuous Reader judge Hast thou not herein manifestly opposed and deny'd what thou sayst before for the Serviceableness of each degree of Light to its end But what Service if the following or Improvement of any degree of the Light doth either anihilate or oppose the Covenant of Grace What dark mad and blasphemous Work hast thou here made against the Light within which if it ought to be rejected what account will be given to God for it And he should he give a Light so repugnant to his own Covenant Hast thou not told us that man must be accountable to God for every Dispensation of Light But now thou sayst it ought to be rejected And hast thou not told us that Christ is the Light and Life of men How easie is it to see thy lamentable and blasphemous Contradiction which thou art fallen into as a Judgment upon thee for thy opposing the Light But let us understand how thou discribes this Covenant of Grace and way for the Salvation of Sinners since thou dost not own it to be obtain'd by following of the Light within but the â—…ight within to be Rejected where thy Christianity comes to be embraced We are sure that God hath
according to the Scripture though 't is probable not in my Opposers Words and Terms for note that his Charge which I denyed was not that the Quakers deny the raising again of this very Body of Flesh c. but the Resurrection of the body in this general Phrase Is it therefore ingenuous that I should be thus accused in these general Terms And when I cannot in Reason or Conscience own T. H's manner of stating things as my Opinions in his own Words both besides and contrary to what my Words were or are must I therefore be called a Knave a deceitufl Fellow c Whereas my Conscience bears me witness that if he had stated either my Affirmations or Denials in any Case in my own Words Books or Writing I would not in the least have disowned or receded from them as mine but either have stood by them or upon plain Scripture Evidence to the contrary should have fallen â—…nder Conviction and Reprehension according to the nature of the Error or Mistake if truely detected or proved guilty thereof As concerning the Resurrection I am so far from bauking my Testimony or receding from what I have and do hold concerning it that I am intended if God permit to speak further thereof according to the Sence and Understanding given me and that before I have done with my present Opposers But whereas T. H. takes the Liberty to be the Quakers Mouth and to present them as speaking those impertinencies and Falshoods which are meerly his own Forgeries and â—…ever believed nor intended by them Let the unprejudiceâ—… Reaâ—…er judge whether he be not highly guilty of Falshood and Deceit herein as in divers things hath been signiâ—…ed in this Discourse And as for his second Accusation admitting that I did not write down all his Explications upon his Positions 't is no Proof that the Relation of what I gave was false as very sillily he accuses me Neither hath he proved that I have given a false Relation of any one Position of his Besides in some of his Positions the very Substance of his Reason or Argument is therewith inserted in my Paper others of his Positions are so absurd and gross that he could not make so much as the Colour of a reasonable Explication upon them and therefore I did endeavour to induce him upon more deliberate Conside rations to produce what Explications he could for his Doctrines for which these were my Words If our Opposer say we have not inserted his Explications upon his Assertions our Answer is that 's his Work he hath Liberty to do it himself Now if for this he must revile me in the open Street calling me Knave and shaking his Stick at me If the Baptists will prove men Knaves at this Rate about Principles or Opinions they will make all Knaves that oppose them who do not relate all Circumstances of Words as well as their Assertions how impertinent soever Though I am unwilling to reflect upon all of them for this outragious and uncivil Carriage and defaming Language of their Brother Hicks for his Brother W. Kiffin did somewhat ingenuously shew his Dislike thereof openly yet when he attempted to prove it adding thereto against me such Language as this viz. impudent Fellow audacious Fellow deceitful Fellow c. To excuse him herein some of his Companions said it was his Zeal but this Cover was too narrow such hypocritical and false Excuses will not hold up the Credit of T. Hicks and those his Adherents And be it reminded that in divers things he hath both curtail'd and wholy left out my Explications particularly of that Passage cited by him in his 28. pag. viz. That which is spoken from the Spirit of Truth in any is of as great Authority as the Scriptures and greater here he stops and leaves out As received and proceeding immediately from that Spirit and as Christ's Words were of greater Authority when he spoke then the Pharisees reading the Letter as before hinted See here he hath called me a Knave for that which he is more manifestly guilty of and so is condemned out of his own Mouth in that which he allows himself in And I desire that Tho. Hicks may look at home and examine his own Conscience whether he was not in himself detected for that his Passion and Fury towards me I would not have him go on wronging his own Conscience nor withstand that Light in him which in secret would shew him his Infirmity and Evil in this matter of Passion and calumnious Railing whereby he will never gain upon the Spirits of any who are tender and sincere to God But instead of repenting thereof he brings the same Language over again in his Postscript after he has had both reproof and deliberation to have learnt better but it appears he is disturbed and royl'd in his Spirit as a man guilty and therefore shuffles to ease himself by telling us again thus viz. I told G. W. he was a Knave wherefore I did then and do so still esteem him c. really false and dishonest p. 91. To which G. W's reply is the Lord forgive him howbeiâ—… I am at defiance of my Adversary's implacable Enmity and do challenge him and all the World justly to detect me of dishonesty or of acting against my Conscience or to the Injury of any one living knowing my own Peace in the Testimony of a good Conscience towards God and Man I do really defie the Envy of the Devil and all his Agents And T.H. cannot hide his Passion and 〈◊〉 by his begging the Question viz. Doth not that Quaker who wrote that Book called the lying Wonder p. 9. endeavour to fasten these terms of Fool and Knave upon J. G. Whereas his Case was not the same with mine nor is he positively so charged for his Brother J. G. attempting to attest the Anabaptist's lying Wonder out of Lincolnshire upon the meer Credit of his Brother Ralph James the Fomentor of it as having been an Elder of a Congregation many Years from whose Mouth J. G. had the Relation of a great Miracle done by the Prayers of their Church though contrary to their Faith who affirm that Miracles are ceased long since and yet in his Letter to his Elder R. J. to desire a Reason why this great handy Work of God hath been so long concealed from Publication when he himself knew of it some Months before as also Ben. Morley as J. G. affirms to which the Words are added by T. R. thus viz. Whether J. G. be not as much Fool as Knave by his own handy Work let his Brethren judge See here it s referred to his Brethren to judge in this Case which was 1st His deposing the lying Wonder under his Hand from the Credit of the Forger 2. His pretending to desire a Reason of its being so long concealed when he himself knew of it some months before though they have not judged his Folly at least in this but T. H. hath positively called
departed from them so as neither Life nor Substance is to be found in them but a dark Spirit of Enmity and Opposition against the true Power and Life is centered in them Yea the same Spirit which walketh in dry Places I wish they were truely sensible of it X. Of knowing Christ and his Coming Reign and Deity UPon 2 Cor. 5. 16. Though I have known Christ after the Flesh yet from henceforth know I him so no more H. G's Exposition is That the Word know here doth hold forth to esteem regard allow or to approve by Way of Preference p. 58. Now if we read his Exposition herein upon the Text it runs thus viz. Though I have known or esteemed regarded or approved Christ after the Flesh by Way of Preference yet from henceforth do I esteem regard or approve of him so no more and then how must I regard and prefer him but after the Spirit and in his spiritual Manifestation as I know him in me to be my Hope Life and Stay But how does this agree with his Discription of Jesus Christ as the alone Saviour As consisting of a human Body of Flesh and Bone as before p. 31. and 55. and with his saying that the Spirit or blessed Comforter cannot be the Saviour and Mediator p. 46. But this he hath also eminently Contradicted in confessing that The Power of Christ's Spirit risen in us is for our Sanctification and Renovation p. 54. To which I add that the Apostle witnessed that the ingrafted Word is able to save your Souls or the Word that is grafted in you as some have it Jam. 1. 21. and see 1 Pet. 1. 23. and the Spirit is Life giveth Life quickneth sanctifieth it self maketh Intercession And if ye through the Spirit mortifie the Deeds of the Flesh ye shall live Rom. 8. Therefore the Word and Spirit which are one do save the Obedient Whereas H. G. saith Some of those Cazers and Waiters viz. that look for Christ's personal Reign was Paul Peter and John yea all the primitive Saints though Christ was come in Spirit to them as gloriously c. p. 60. I deny that they were any such Gazers after Christ's Ascension and glorious spiritual Appearance and Revelation in them he hath herein asperst Paul Peter and John and all the primitive Saints with gazing for Christ's personal Reign which he reckons his second Coming to Salvation wherein he hath not only rendred all the Saints and former Witnesses of Christ to be such uncertain Gazers abroad but their Hope Expectation and Faith ineffectual and fruitless as to such a Coming and they to be disappointed of Salvation for a personal Coming and Reign of Christ as this man speaks of they attained not in their Dayes neither is it yet nor are Baptists like to see such a personal Reign though he has rendred all the primitive Saints Gazers and Waiters for it whereas Christ said unto his Disciples Verily I say unto you there be some standing here which shall not taste of Death till they see the Son of Man coming in his Kingdom Math. 16. 28. or till they have seen the Kingdom of God come with Power Mark 9. 1. As for H. G's human personal Christ consisting or meerly made up of Flesh and Bone finite weak subject to Passion as we are who as such he deems the alone Saviour with his unscriptural Expressions he puts upon him as outward Existence personal Existence personal Subsistence human Nature second Person of the Trinity c. p. 46. and 83. and 94. And yet in Contradiction he is made to confess him to be the most high God p. 80. Jesus of Nazareth truely God the most high God as is the Father and of the same Substance and Essence yet distinguished from the Father as touching his personal Subsistence p. 83. I cannot but look upon this Relation to be non-sensical and confusedly intermixt with those unscriptural Terms of which let the ingenuous Reader judge that can distinguish between the Body which Christ took upon him and the divine Being this Relation of his tends farther to stumble and keep distant both Jews and Others thus to represent Jesus Christ as a meer Body consisting of Flesh and Bone human Nature finite weak c. and then saying He is the most high God of the same Essence c. And his rendring him only a Saviour after this his own imaginary human or earthly manner he hath sufficiently confuted by these Reasons wherewith he proves Jesus Christ his Deity or Being God and as such the Saviour orgiveth Power unto others to become the Sons of God 1st From his Name the mighty God the true God the only wise God God blessed for ever Isa. 9. 6. 1 Joh. 5. 20. Jude 25. and Rom. 9. 5. 2ly His making and creating the World Joh. 1. 1 3. Col. 2. 16. Heb. 2. 10. 3ly His upholding and preserving the whole Creation Heb. 1. 3. Col. 1. 17. 4ly His knowing all things Joh. 12. 17. and 2. 24 25. Psa. 139. and 4. 10. Job 36. 4. and Ch. 38. 5ly His searching the Heart Jer. 17. Rev. 2. 23. 6ly His being the fist and the last Isa. 44. 6. and 48. 12. Rev. 2. 8. 17. 7ly His having spiritual Worship or divine Adoration due to him Mat. 8. 2. and 28. 17. Luke 24. 52. Joh. 8. 38. Heb. 1. 6. Phil. 2. 10. 8ly His having Power to forgive or pardon Iniquity Mat. Ch. 9. and Mark 2. 5. Luke 5. 21. 9ly In that the Saints ought to pray to him Act. 9. 14. Rom. 10. 9 10. 1 Cor. 1. 2. 10ly His having Power to give the Holy Spirit and Saving Graces Math. 3. 11. Mark 1. 4. Ephes. 4. 8 9. 11ly His being equal with God Phil. 2. 6 7. Zach. 13. 7. 12ly His having Power to lay down his Life and to raise it up again Joh. 2. 19. and 10. 18. 13ly His being the Object Author and Finisher of the true Believers Faith Joh. 14. 1. and 9. 35. Heb. 12. 2. 14ly He who can by his own Name proper Power and Authority give Power unto others to become the Sons of God must needs be God himself but that Christ doth and can do this is evident Joh. 1. 11 12. He doth adopt regenerate or make others the Children of God by the effectual Working of his blessed Spirit in the Hearts by which they are interested in all the Priviledges of the Covenant of Grace which none can do save God alone p. 91 92. Thus far H. G. to his own eminent Confutation and Contradiction hath assented to Truth in Words and how Jesus Christ is the Object of Faith and Giver of Power to men to become the Sons of God and how he makes them his Children by the effectual Workings of his blessed Spirit in their Hearts even because he is God Eternal in that none can do those but God alone according to Isa. 43. 10 11 12. and 45. 14. and 49. 26. and 63. 〈◊〉 Jer. 14. 8. Hos. 13.
that are not written Joh. 20. 30. and Joh. 21. 25. To this I say It s an easie matter for Intruders to ask unlearned and unnecessary Questions whereof this is one of those many other Signs and Things that Jesus did it s said If they should be written every one I suppose that even the World it self could not contain the Books Joh. 20. 25. how then should this Querist be capable to contain them I suppose he doth not think himself able to contain more then the World it self If he saith it is an hiperbolical Expression then is his Question hiperbolical to be sure And if we cannot give him Account of all those Signs and things in particular while we are not sollicitous to know them nor do we think it needful is that any valid Plea or Proof against the Sufficiency of the Light within or Spirits Teaching Would such an Argument against the Scriptures being the Rule please him because they contain not all that was done God gives us to know what 's sufficient and necessary for Life and Salvation by his Light within But if the Word contain 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 be taken for to understand as Mat. 19. 11. to comprehend Job 21 25. Then in that Sence there 's far more written in the Scriptures already then either our Opposer or his Brethren can either comprehend or understand and therefore it s a busie Intrusion and Cavil in them to query for more while they oppose the true Light within and will not believe in it nor depend upon the Immediate Teachings of the Spirit of Truth from whence the holy Scriptures proceeded but dark they are and more grosly dark and confused they are like to be who persist in that gain-saying Spirit of Prejudice and Enmity against the Light of Truth which I desire the Lord to give them a Sight and Sence of unto Repentance rather then they should perish in their perverse Gain-sayings THE Angry Anabaptist Proved BABYLONISH IN Answer to Henry Grigg's Pamphlet stiled The Baptist not Babylonish Wherein Whilst he endeavours to reconcile his Contradictions in his Book Entituled Light from the Sun c. Charged upon him in a Paper Entituled The Babylonish Baptist He is run into more Contradictions Absurdities and false Accusations against the People of God called Quakers and their Principles By G. W. Ex ore tuo te judicabo Printed in the Year 1673. The Heads of the following Treatise I. OF the Light of the Eternal Word in Man and the Anabaptist confounded about it II. The Sufficiency of the Light within to reveal God Christ c. III. The Effect of Christ's Sufferings only known in his Light within IV. The saving Work of the Spirit V. How the Light in Man is a Gift and H. G' s Distinction between the Meritorious and Instrumental Cause of Salvation examined VI. The Lord's Supper in the Type and in the Anti-Type the Shadow and Substance distinguished VII The Anabaptist's Imposition about their Shadowy Baptism VIII Their Definition of the true Saviour and his Being IX The Hypostatical Union X. His Charge against the Quakers Principles and Doctrines of the Light within proved impure vile and ignorant and the Spirituality Divinity and Sufficiency of the Light within further asserted XI His sad and impious Prayer against the Light in all which Light is proved of the same Nature or kind with the Witness in Believers XII His groundless Comparison and Distinction between the Light of God in man and the Light of Christ or Gospel further refuted XIII His belying us with denying the Man Christ Jesus to â—…loak his own Absurdity and Ignorance of Christ and his Being XIV That scriptural Distinction between the Eternal Son of God and the Body prepared for him further maintained and the Anabaptist's persecuting Spirit reviling and traducing the Inocent reproved XV. A Warning and Reproof to Hen. Grigg c. XVI The Baptist's nine Questions answered THE Angry Anabaptist Proved BABYLONISH IN Answer to H. G's Pamphlet stiled The Baptist not Babylonish WHereas H. G. pretends he hath set down my Animadversions upon his Contradictions in order exactly after my own Fashion pag. 1. I say this is not true he hath left out the latter part of five of them which it appears did pinch him Therefore I shall represent to the Reader his Contradictions with my Animadversions and the Stress of his Exceptions whereby he would endeavour to make People believe he hath not contradicted himself but that we must refer to the Impartial Readers to judge of in the Light of Truth I. Of the Light of the Eternal Word in Man and the Anabaptist confounded about it HEnry Grigg saith viz. I utterly deny that this Light which all Men have from the Glorious Creator is a saving Light pag. 8. of his Book called Light from the Sun of Righteousness H. G. in Contradiction saith I really believe that the Lord Jesus Christ AS the Eternal Word hath given Light or enlightneth all Men and Women that come into the World p. 8. G. W. his Animadversion The Light or Life of the Eternal Word which is the Light of Men Joh. 1. 4. is spiritual and divine as is that Word and therefore saving to all that truly obey it H. G. replyes It seems to me as if this Man had lost his Common Reason because I deny that the Light which is in all Men is a saving Light and yet say I really believe all have a Light in them from Christ considered as Creator This cannot be a Contradiction unless he can prove there is no Light proceeding from the Eternal Word as Creator but what is saving p. 2. G. W. answereth Whilst he would insinuate that the Light in every Man is created or a Creature he meerly beggs the Question and still remains in his self-Contradiction for he dare not say That AS the Eternal Word Jesus Christ is a Creature Neither is his Light that proceedeth from him as that Word created any more then that Life which was in him which Life was the Light of Men will they say this is either created or natural As the Eternal Word is divine so is the Light or immediate Shining thereof in Man's Conscience H. G. What though it be granted that the Light which all Men that come into the World are lighted which flows from the Eternal Word and so is spiritual must it needs therefore be a saving Light Was not the Law given forth on Mount Sinai a Light of or come from the Eternal Word and doth not Paul say that the Law is spiritual Rom. 7. 14. and yet a Ministration of Death 2 Cor. 3. 7. and that killed and in other places that there was no Justification by it G. W. Answer 1. If it be a spiritual Light in Man proceeding and flowing from the Eternal Word it must therefore be the Eternal Word that immediately shineth in Man's Heart which is not created nor natural for all have not
of Creation thrâ—…gh which his Light gives Men to consider and see God and his eternal Power Rom. 1. and to worship him And this Light and Works are and do preach forth the Power of God and his Wisdom where the Scriptures are not And therefore God affords a Sufficiency even to the Heathens both of Light inward and Evidence outward of his Power c. They that have the holy Scriptures in the Bible may thank God for those good Testimonies in them as his Light within opens their Understandings in them to the Right Use of them Aâ—…d they that have not the Bible have the Book of the Creation to read in and the Light within to open it and to read and understand a Deity and Divine Power through all and over all And they that are born Deaf and Blind shall not be therefore damned God having afforded an invisible sufficient Light to save being obeyed to leave them without excufe being disobeyed And if by the use of Reason the Spirit of God teacheth the Heathen moral Duties as in p. 54. which Duties as he explains are to love and worship God and to love our Neighbours as our selves then have the Heathen First A supernatural and Divine Light to wit that of the Spirit 2dly His Spirit with the Teaching and Reason of it in that degree it is in them is a Rule of Life to them that have not Scriptures who obey it And this confutes and overthrows the greater part of S. S. his Book or bundle of Confusion S. S. Most falsly obtruds upon R. Ludgater this Concession viz. That the Will of God as much of it as is revealed by the Light in every man without the help of Scripture is not the only Rule to Heaven p. 23. And this sayes S. S. fetcht out of the very Heart-Blood of Quakery Epist. This is a gross Abuse and Lye for R. L. hath a better Knowledge and Esteem of the Light of Christ in every man and its own Sufficiency to guide the Obedient to Heaven In him was Life the Life was the Light of Men Job 1. 4. This Life and Light of Christ being divine is therefore a sufficient Rule Also S. S. hath abused G. W. in several places perverting his Words and setting down words in G. W's Name which he never wrote nor spoak and in particular these words about Christ's Coming viz. He hath tarried above Sixteen Hundred Years p. 86. quoting Divin of Christ p. 49. and then to back this Abuse and to lay Judgment 〈◊〉 G. W. brings those Scriptures 2 Pet. 2. 3 4. and Mat. 4. 48. Whereas G. W's Words were quite contrary â—…nfessing both to Christ's Outward and Inward Coming which â—…is Disciples did not put afar off as you do it being above â—…ixteen Hundred Years since they both waited for and receiv'd â—…is Coming Here is no such Word as that He hath tarried so long we refer the Reader to the Book and Page before mentioned to see S. S's Abuse in this as also many more might be instanced where instead of answering he hath wronged and belyed our Words and Books S. S. in p. 32. saith though the Counsels of God's Spirit in Believers Hearts be IN themselves as certainly the Truth of God as are his Counsels in the Scriptures yet are they not to Believers so certainly the Truths of God Answ. What 's this but to tell us that the Scriptures can better ascertain us of the Truths therein then the Spirit that first gave forth those Truths or that the Spirit of Christ is Insufficient assuredly to manifest his own Counsels to Believers which is contrary to Christ's own Testimony He shall guide you into all Truth He shall abide with you forever and the Sons of God are led by his Spirit and hereby know we that we dwell in him and be in us because he hath given us of his Spirit 1 Joh. 4. 13. Chap. 3. 24. Therefore this Spirit is our certain and highest Rule And as to his pudder he makes about Water-Baptism 't is very confused and silly as at the Dispute not plainly asserting whom he would have the Subjects of it whether Infants or Believers yet brings some of the Anabaptists Arguments though we still suppose he intends Infants but durst not tell us whether it be his Practice now So see what a Laborynth and Loss his Work tends to bring People to neither plainly telling them the Subjects nor showing who are the Ministers of this imposed Water-Baptism whether himself or such as he or who and yet injoyns it as a Means of Sanctification a Means of Salvation which we do not believe As also he explains not his terms of the Lord's Supper what he means by the Lord's Supper whether the Shaddow or the Mystery and what is his own Practice therein whether he ministers Bread and Wine as a Figure or the Substance And whether the Mystery or thing signified be attained by any in this Life This is unanswer'd Nor whether Shaddows be essential to the Gospel Dispensation Concerning Justification He hath in some degree granted to truth that the word Justifie the Scripture sometimes useth it to signifie to make Just by inherent Holiness or to Sanctifie Tit. 3. 5 7. He saved us by the Washing of Regeneration that being justified c. Herein he hath assented more to Truth then many of his â—…rethren but 't is much contradicted again in his handling the matter of Imputation of Adam's Sin to those that are not Partakers of it and so of Christ's Obedience p. 96. As if Adam's Sin and Christ's Righteousness were so imputed to them who partake not of them This we cannot own and hath been often answered in our Books and much we have against this his Sense of Imputation as also against their Opinion about personal Election and Reprobation and the Cruelty Partiality and ill Consequence of the Presbyters Opinion therein And against S. S. his shallow and absurd managing the matter whose manifest Contradictions were long since published which we do not understand that he hath made any Publick Essay to reconcile also his work about the Scriptures Baptism and the Supper are more particularly and fully answered elsewhere which there hath not been for some time an oppoâ—…tunity to publish CHAP. II. About JUSTIFICATION and IMPUTATION S. S's Quest. WHether we are justified by the Righteousness of Christ imputed The Question would better reach the Controversie as thus stated viz. Whether Impure that is unsanctified Persons while 〈◊〉 be justified by the Imputation of Christ's Righteousness Thus I stated the Question at first which S. S. evaded with this viz. Whether Justification be by the Works of the Law 〈◊〉 by the Righteousness of Christ through Faith Noâ—…â—…enying the former and granting the latter this Question will not find out the Controversie but rather Whether Christ's Righteousness be imputed unto Persons in a disobedient unsanctisied or unconverted State Or Whether Christ's Righteousness be imputed of Coâ—… to Persons
remit or pardon Offences past without such a severe Payment and Satisfaction as is implyed because as some say he dispenseth not with the Act of Law If he could so punish his Innocent Son to the full who never offended was not this a Dispensing with the Act of Law when the Law was made for Offenders and added because of Transgression and to punish such for it was not made to punish an Innocent or Righteous Man against whom there is no Law But if to pardon former Transgression upon true Repentance and to save Man from Sin and Wrath be not inconsistent with the infinite Goodness and Mercy of God himself and to be both a just God and a Saviour were not Inconsistent then his divine Justice consisted not in such Severity as to obliege him from shewing Mercy withoâ—…t such a rigid Satisfaction and Payment as that of punishing his Son to the full and pouring out his Wrath upon him for the Sin of Mankind Whereas where Remission of Sin is obtained there is both a Relaxation of the Severity of the Law and a manifest Effect of the Propitiation or sweet smelling Sacrifice of Christ as Mediator and Advocate and not as the Object of Wrath Revenge and full Punishment from God that is due to Sin and that to acquit the Sinners continuing therein And his not sparing his own Son but delivering him up for us all and his being made a Curse for us was neither equivalent to that of Eternal Death Curse and Damnation which Sin and Sinners have deserved nor doth it absolve Man from his Obedience to the Law of the new Covenant or Spirit of Life in Christ though it was for a Relaxation of the Law as to the Bondage thereof and in order to abolish and end the first Covenant and the Curse thereof yet not to pardon or justifie Men in Sin against the second Nor is it any Loosening but a Reinforcing of the Terms thereof for he took away the first that he might establish the second he removed â—…nd ended the Shadows that he might exalt the Substance that was vailed under them he blotted out the Hand-writing of Ordinances nailed it to his Cross that he might reinforce the Law of the new Covenant written in the Heart that we might not be without Law to God but under the Law to Christ He did both fulfil the Law in hs Person and doth fulfil the Righteousness of it in them that walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit he did not only remove the shadowy Part of the Law and the Curse thereof through his Suffering and Sacrifice but also he actually deliveâ—…s the Soul from the inward Terrors Condemnation and Wrath of the Law upon true Repentance and Contrition of Heart in Remission and Pardon through Faith in his Blood being virtuously felt and efficaciously evidenced by his holy Spirit unto the Soul that hath a Part in Christ as the Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World whose Blood bears Record in the Earth agrees in one with the Spirit sprinkleth the Consciâ—…nce from dead Works speaketh forth Mercy and Forgiveness better things then that of Abel Besides Christ was as well exemplary as propiriatâ—…ry or gracious in his Sufferings which had both a blessed Accepâ—…ance and Effâ—…ct with Gâ—…d and a spiritual Influence upon them that follow him in Spirit further then the Historical Faith and Relation thereof as he said If any Man serve me let him follow me and where I am there shall also my Servant bâ—… Jâ—…h 12. 26. And thus far is his Example spiritually fulfilled in them that follow him as namely Jesus Christ was outwardly câ—…rcumcised baptized crucified put to Death as concerning the Flesh buried quickned raised up by the Power of God c. His Followers or Servants are spiritually circumcised baptized into his Death or crucified with him buried with him by Baptism as Partakers of the Fellowship of his Suffâ—…rings quickned by his Spirit raised up by his Power into the Likeness of his Resurrection and having suffered with him shall reign with him And now in Opposition to the Doctrine of such a rigid and Severe Satisfaction as is by divers asserted 〈◊〉 must tell my Opposers that though the Chastisement of our Peace was upon him and by his Stripes we are said to be healed this is neither of the Nature of Revenge from God Wrath or Punishment to the full that is due for Sin nor doth it exempt or free them who come to be his Followers from being liable at all to God's Chastisement or Correction in their own particulars when there is Cause for it for whom he loves them also he doth correct which is not Revenge as 't is said If my Children forsake my Law and keep not my Commandments then will I visit their Transgressions with the Rod and their Iniquity with Stripes nevertheless my loving Kindness will I not utterly take from them c. Psa. 89. 30 31 32 33. This concerned David and his Seed who notwithstanding did so undergoe the Chastisements of the Lord that he went often in a bowed down and mournful State as when he complained My God my God why hast thou forsaken me c. Psa. 22. which were the same Words Christ uâ—…tered in his deep Suffering Mat. 27. 4â—… plainly iâ—…timating how he took upon him the Sufferings and Burâ—…en of his People and his bearing the Sin and 〈◊〉 of many wherein it 's evident that they that â—…ollow Christ through the Work of Regeneration and obtain the new Birth do spiritually pass through the Fellowship of Christ's Sufferings and do partake of their due Shares thereof both for their Remission and to obliege them to follow him in his own Way of Light and Life whereby they who are faithful to him witnes the Blood Coveâ—…ant the Coverant that cleanseth from Sin and an Interest in that everlasting 〈◊〉 This is the Way aâ—…d Passage of the Raâ—…somed oâ—… the Lord who through his Judgment and Chastisâ—…ments have 〈◊〉 a Ransom received the Attonement and an Interest in the Everlasting 〈◊〉 of Liâ—… and Glory Having thuâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to the Matter in general I come further to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 particular Passages that chiefly concern me to 〈◊〉 S. S. Thâ—… Laâ—…â—…ver aâ—…ows us to sin if at ten Years of Age a Person commits Mâ—…er aâ—…d then lives according to the Law of the Land in evâ—… 〈◊〉 â—…rty Years then arraigned for this the Judge cannot proâ—…ounce him Innocent and so acquit him because the Law did not allow him to commit Murther any Part of his Life p. 93. Answ. A Truth in both 1st The Law never allows us to sin no more doth Grace or the Gospel Shall we sin because we are no more under the Law but under Grace God forbid for how can we that are dead unto Sin live any longer therein 2dly Justice cannot pronounce a Guilty Person Innocent upon the Cessation from the meer Act of Unrighteousness but God's lovinâ—… Kindness and
rasting Death for every Man was not by Way of Revenge or Wrath from the Father nor the Punishment due to the World's Sin for tasting Death is far short of eternally dying The Prophet said Surely he has born our Griefs and carried our Sorrows yet we did esteem him stricken smitten of God and afflicted but he was wounded for our Transgressions he was bruised for our Iniquities the Chastisement of our Peace was upon him Isa. 53. It was man's Transgression that was his Burthen and Cause of his Grief and Suffering however some esteemed him smitten or plagued of God He hath born our Griefs and carried our Sorrows c. Such as suffer with Christ and lie under the Sence of their Burthen do not lay all both the Sorrow and Punishment Oâ—… Sin upon Christ such do not say Christ was sorry or repented for us therefore we need not or Christ was chastised and afflicted in our Person for us therefore we need not be chastised nor afflicted for Sin past Christ made Intercession therefore we need not pray This were not to know the Fellowship of his Sufferings nor to be conformable to his Death nor baptized with his Baptism Besides the Chastisement of our Peace upon him was not Revenge nor burning Wrath from God Chastisement and Vengeance are two things God's Chastisement is in Love not in Revenge it pleased the Lord to bruise him who had done no Violence Isa. 53. by delivering him up to suffer and bear our Sorrows and Griefs AN ACT OF HIS GOOD PLEASURE NOT OF REVENGE OR WRATH how could it be Justice fully to punish the Innocent for the Wicked's Offence Were it not Blasphemy to charge God with such Cruelty and Injâ—…stice Obj. Every known Sin is a wilful Rejection of Infinite Goodness a free Choice of Infinite Displeasure c. It therefore carries Infinite Demerit with it and nothing short of Infinite Punishment or Sufferings of Infinite Wrath can possibly suffice to satisfie for it Rep. Wo unto them that persist in Sin and reject Christ's inherent or inward Righteousness for such a Satisfaction as this of Infinite Punishment c. or that believe their Sins were thus punisht in Christ and thereupon continue in Sin Wo unto you that thus justifie the Wicked condemn the Innocent God's Controversie is against you you are afflicting oppressing and crucifying the Just with your Iniquities treading under Foot the Son of God rejecting the Blood of the Covenant you are Guilty of the Body and Blood of Christ as much as they were that condemned him and said he was Guilty of Death your Doctrine imputes the Sin Guilt and Punishment thereof to Christ you have esteemed him plagued of God but you have pierced him and grieved him by your Iniquity and Hypocrisie Take Heed of wilful sinning and rejecting the Goodness of God lest there remain no more a Sacrifice for you Repent repent repent Return return return to the Lord God before his Wrath sweep you away into Perdition Further he saith None but God's Equal and this is God himself in our Nature that is capable to satisfie God for Sin Christ received the Stroak of God's Justice c. Rep. While he states this Satisfaction to be only by Way of punishing men's Sin in Christ and now it is God himself that satisfies God this is of an absurd and blasphemous Tendence as if God punisht himself or as if God satisfied God with Infinite Punishment or suffering of Infinite Wrath and what is this but to divide God against himself Yet we may find out a better Sense for the Words before that God and Christ were one inseparable in the Suffering Affliction That his Soul bore as the Spirit of God was burthened afflicted and grieved under the Weight and Pressure of Man's Iniquity and Sin howbeit this was not of the Nature of strict Payment made to God by himself in Man's stead much less to punish man's Sin in Christ with infinite Wrath. Quest. Can Faith and the Works that follow without the Imputation of Christ's Sufferings satisfie God's Majesty for our Sin Answ. Here he misseth the true State of the Controversie or Question which should rather be Can your Imputation of Christ's Sufferings without true Faith and the Obedience or Works thereof either satisfie God's Majesty for Sin or justifie Men while he implies No he hath given away his Cause by granting That the Sufferings of Christ alone can not justifie Men without true Faith and Obedience to him By so much was Jesus made the Surety of a better Testament Heb. 7. 22. This is no Proof that your Sins were imputed to him as punish'd in him by the suffering of Infinite Wrath which to affirm renders him no better then a Transgressor guilty of your Sins as your Brother T. D. hath affirmed which is much beneath his being Mediator or the Surety of the new Testament which he was made the Surety of to ensure and make good the Promises and Priviledges thereof to true Believers which are all Yea Amen in him and to enable us to obey and perform those Terms and Conditions of the new Testament or Covenant which concern us for we cannot receive the Promises but in him nor discharge or pay our Duty without him therefore he is the Mediator of the new Covenant he is our high Priest made with the Oath of God and continueth forever and he is able to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him seeing he ever liveth to make Intercession for them Heb. 7. 24 25 28. But if God's Justice be fully satisfied for your Sins by the Sufferings of Christ and for them only God justifie men and secure them from Condemnation It being against Justice it self to punish those Sins a second time that have been punisht to the full already he saith How then shall God render to every Man according to his Works Indignation and Wrath to them that are contentious obey not the Truth but obey Unrighteousness Will they be able to plead this Doctrine before his Tribunal Lord thou hast punisht our Sins to the full in thy Son Christ It is against Justice it self to punish them a second time for Christ dyed for all Men tasted Death for every Man gave himself a Ransom for all for a Testimony in due Time But if this were a Punishment of their Sins to the full then how could Justice punish them again with Indignation Wrath But Glory Honour Peace to them that do Good to the Jew first and also to the Gentile to them that through Patient continuing in Well-doing seek for Glory and Immortality eternal Life see Rom. 2. Such do not plead Christ's doing Good and suffering only for them in his Person to justifie and excuse them in Sin in their Persons or to cloak their doing Evil all their Life long though Sin-pleasing Hypocrites thus endeavour to indulge themselves and others in their
Iniquities But be not deceived God will not be mocked such as you sow such shall you reap Whereas S. S. accuseth G. W. with saying Satisfaction is not needfull Quoting Divin of Christ pag. 62. And then cryes Such Blasphemy is this Man not affraid to utter the Lord Convince and Humble him To thee S. S. I say Thou hast wronged me those are none of my Words the Lord humble thee for thy belying me thiâ—… is not the first time If thou or any Reader do but moderately view my Book and Page quoted by thee it will plainly appear that to say Satisfaction is not needfull are none oâ—… my Words for t is very plain that I have not denyed that Satisfaction that was in Christ but have objected aga nst the manner of their stating it and sinful tendence of their Notion about it as 1st Against their making Satisfaction the Effect of God's full Revenge or the Execution of Vindictive Justice as their Phrase is on his Innocent Son thereby to clear the Guilty 2dly I have distinguished between God's Chastisement and Revenge 3dly That the Intent and End of God's Peoples undergoing his Chastisements or Correction according to Jer. 10. 24. Heb. 12. 9 10 11. And their partaking of the Fellowship of Christ's Sufferings is that they might be Partakers of his Holiness live and reign with him 4thly I have plainly told my Opposers That if Man continue in Rebellion against Christ rejecting his Love and Grace his Sufferings and Satisfaction will not free them from the Severity of God nor from the Execution of his Judgment which is committed tâ—… Christ c. Divin of Christ p. 62 63. The Truth of what I have written in the said Book in the Plaineness and Simplicity of it stands over the Subtility of my Opposers and remains unanswered and instead of an honest or moderate Answer this Man does but pervert curtaile tautologize nibble and pick at my Words and abuse me He doth not so much as seriously take notice of the stress of my Objections but over and over imposeth his Opinion and brings a very unfit Instance for God's judging it meet to punish all Sin or that all our Sin is punished in his Son without Cruelty c. where he saith If God doth damn the Impenitent if he damns the fallen Angels he is cruel We say No he is Just But is this and his punishing your Sins in his Son to the full a fit Parallel Let the unprejudiced Reader judge And then he grosly imposeth and begs the Question again viz. And for that person who is God to suffer a temporal Death though in his human Nature only this is of infinite Value an infinite Abasement a stroke of Infinite Wrath for had not God's Wrath against Sin been Infinite he would not thus have struck a Person of infinite Worth and Dearness to him interposing as a Surety between him and us miserable Sinners for â—…od in our Nature to suffer what he did this is more then for Men or Devils to suffer God's Eternal Wrath or Revenge this Wrath more clearly shines in the Infinitude of it in thus smiting * the Brightness of his Glory and Express Image of his Person * then in the eternal Damnation of Men and Devils in the unquenchable Flames of Hell Rep. This strange Language against God and Christ I shall need to â—…ay little about let them that know the holy Scriptures see how unlike them it is only I may query and demand of him 1st Where do the Scriptures say That God suffered a Temporal Death as a Stroak of Infinite Wrath 2dly That in Infinite Wrath he struck a Person of Infinite Worth and Dearness to him 3dly That this Wrath more clearly shines in the Infinitude of it in thus smiting the Brightness of his own Glory c. then in the Eternal Damnation of Men and Devils c. If I should conclude this both Blasphemous and Unscriptural Language that thus sets God at variance with himself or as smiting and punishing himself c. S. S. perhaps would be ready to cry out Oh Blasphemy and charge it upon me though it be his own the very Tendence Nature of his own Doctrine The Matter is fully answered and refuted before Again Where do the Scriptures say that God punished the Surety Christ for our Sins and for a time poured forth his Wrath upon him for our Iniquities p. 108. I am sure the Scripture he cites sayes the contrary of him Isa. 42. 1. viz. Behold mine Elect in whom my Soul delighteth Could he then pour forth his Wrath upon him for your Iniquities Oh! be ashamed of such Doctrine Could either the Chastisement of our Peace on him his bearing the Sin of many or carrying our Griefs be the Father's pouring forth Infinite Wrath upon him That it is for Christ's sake that God doth pardon upon Repentance is very true 't is well he Grants this upon Repentance and it is for Christ's sake for all the Good that is revealed or wrought in us that is acceptable to God as true Faith Repentance Obedience real Righteousness c. is all of Christ and brought forth by him in that Soul that is pardoned and Justified in him or accepted in the Beloved But how God's Forgiveness of the â—…ebt or Pardon of the Offences agrees with the Surety's full Payment and Suffering the Punishment Wrath deserved I leave to the understanding Readeâ—… to judge Or how Christ should make Intercession for them that come unto God by him if all their Debt were payed and Punishment undergone appears not especially where the Surety's Payment and Suffering is supposed in this case to be Infinitely of more Value then if the Debtor himself had payed and suffered all because of the Surety's Infinite Dignity and when if the Payment and Satisfaction of Law were thus strictly and severely made neither Law nor Justice could admit that the Debtor should lye in Prison as many do under Satan's Chains of Darkness lyable to Wrath and Vengeance but he should be both discharged and delivered ipso facto But we see it otherwise Many are yet in the Prison-House in Satan's Chains who yet may be loosed and Christ ever lives to make Intercession for them that come unto God by him The Man mends not the matter in what follows Obj. Christ Having purchased Salvation for us at the Hands of Justice by his Intercession he Obtains the Purchase at the Hands of free Grace and so applies it to us Rep. Oh strange Justice or rather Revenge fully paid satisfied but Grace yet to be so much interceded or solicited to this renders Grace more Severe then the Condemnation of the Law and Inferiour to Revenge And what Division would this make in God and between Christ and Grace it renders him Inferiour to Earthly Princes and his Grace below Common Justice among Men For supposing a Subject had forfeited his Inheritance to his Prince by Rebellion
God and his free Grace and renders the Tenders of it to Mankind in general and preaching Salvation by it conditionally to all no better then a Mockery to the greater part of the World And this neither S. S. nor his Assembly of Divines have answered nor can they clear themselves herein S. S. begins to vindicate his Opinion by parts thus sect 1 1. God's Act which Essentially takes in the Object thereof he hath chosen some particular Persons 2 Thes. 2. 13. God hath Chosen you Joh. 15. 19. I have Chosen you Ephes. 1. 4. He hath Chosen us This being directly denyed I shall add Arguments Answ. The Scriptures are not denyed by me as most falsely is here insinuated but I deny that these prove their Proposition for a Personal Election or Reprobation from all Eternity as also I deny that God â—…rom all Eternity did unchangeably ordein whatsoever comes to pass as they most grosly asserted or that his Decree or Act is so absolute from all Eternity to particular Persons as strictly eying and unchangeably designing each Person to his End a certain definite Number unto everlasting Life and others to everlasting Death This I still oppose and find this Man's Vindication thereof very â—…eeble and his Proofs impertinent For that 2 Thes. 〈◊〉 13. He hath left out the following words after chosen you he leaves out through Sanctification of the Spirit and Belief of the Truth which as they clearly explain how they were chosen to Salvation even the Conditions on which God's Act of Chusing them depends to wit Sanctification of the Spirit and Belief of the Truth So this makes clearly against my Opposers Opinion for they were not capable of this Belief of the Truth and Sanctification before they had personal Beings which sure they had not from all Eternity and so seeing the Way and Act of God's chusing Men must be through Sanctification and of the Spirit and Belief of the Truth which Condition answers this Decree he hath not designed nor ordeined the contrary Condition of his Wrath against Man as Sin and Unbelief though they are come to pass upon many whose Repentance and Return God rather willed then their Death or Destruction But if S. S. might have pleaded a little further from the words God hath from the Beginning chosen you if he had insisted on the Words from the Beginning I might answer That does not signifie from all Eternity much less that he hath had you particular Persons in his Eye as unchangeably designing you to Salvation meerly as particular Persons without having Relation to any such Conditions or Qualifications as Faith Sanctification c. which may be rejected by Man 2. The Words from the Beginning are so far from signifying from all Eternity that in this place they reach not so far as to the Time of the Beginning of the Creation but rather to the Time of their first Reception and Belief of the Truth according as they import in divers other places as 1 Joh. 3. 11. This is the Message that ye have heard from the Beginning and 2 Joh. 5. Though Beginning in the highest Sense relateth to Christ as the divine Word who is the Beginning and the End And also note that S. S. deals with that of Joh. 15. 19. as he doth by the other leaving out both the foregoing and following Words which still make against him setting down only I have Chosen you whereas Christ said thus Because ye are not of the World but I have Chosen you out of the World therefore the World hateth you Joh. 15. 19. And then it is plain they were both of and in the World before they were chosen out of the World for could they be chosen out of that-which they were never in So that Christ's Chusing his out of the Corrupt Wayes and Spirit of the World through Faith and Sanctification is the Reason why the World hates them which it did not while they were Conformable to the World By the World here is understood those who are in the Natural Unbelieving State and also such as hate the true Believers and Disciples of Christ whence it follows that you Presbyterians how highly soever you conceit of your selves as Elect Persons from all Eternity above all others yet are not in the Election of Christ nor in a State of Election so 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Spirit oâ—… Persecution Rules in you as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 shewed it self in many of your Leaders and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And to that of Ephes. 1. 4. He hath Chosen us 〈◊〉 him These words In him to wit in Christ S. Scandret hath left out like one that both shuts his own Eyes and seeks to keep others in a blind Belief of his partial Principle The very Ground and Principle of Election being in Christ which the man overlooks God hath Chosen us the true Church which is Elect in him before the Foundation of the World that we should be Holy and without Blame before him in Love Ephes. 1. 4. For as we are in him and become so well qualified in Holiness and thus nearly related to him as to be without Blame in due time we shew forth the Effects and Fruits of that Elect Seed and Principle wherein our Life and Ground of Election stood before the Foundation of the World not merely as we are particular Persons or Natural men but as his living and Royal Of-spring his Church and peculiar People sprung from his own Seed now in due time chosen by him out of the World and the Corruptions thereof through Sanctification of the Spirit and Belief of the Truth S. S. Arg. 1. Particular Persons in time receive Mercy are converted sect 2 made to pâ—…rsevere are saved Therefore God did Decree this beforehand for God worketh according to the Counsel of his own Will Ephes. 1. 11. Answ. Particular Persons in time receiving Mercy being converted and persevering in Grace doth not argue that Mercy was but only proffered and shewed to a few particular Persons nor yet that it is so absolutely and Eternally Decreed of God that all to whom Mercy and Grace is shewed shall so inevitably persevere in it as that there is no Possibility of their Declension and Falling from it after the time of their receiving Grace while yet unestablished for 1. He hath concluded all under Sin that he might shew Mercy upon all 2. Those particulars who sincerely receive Mercy and Goodness upon them he will have Mercy both in a way of Continuance and Increase and unto them Goodness who abide in his Goodness Rom. 11. 20 21 22. It is true God worketh all things after the Counsel of his own Will his gracious and good Will counsels him to shew forth Goodness and Mercy to all in the first place and Severity or Damnation to none without Cause And his Will is alfo Believers Sanctification in order to which he graciously counsels and perswades Men by his Spirit to forsake Sin and be converted which manner of working in
with Intention to leave them without Recovery which though all in curreth the same End as is supposed to a certain fore designed Number of Persons yet the State of the Case as it reflects upon God is as much opposite and contrary as to say God doth absolutely eternally decree Man's Destruction or did reprobate them from Eternity and then that he purposely passeth by and leaves them to destroy or kill themselves whereas his good Will and Kindness and free Proffers of Grace and Salvation to lost Man admits of neither to wit neither of such Cruelty to nor Carelesness of his Creatures his Mercies are over all his Works and his Grace and Mercy in the first place extending to all And that saying He will have Mercy on whom he will is no Limitation to the first extent of his Grace and good Will But that he will have Mercy both by way of Encrease and Continuance to the Upright-hearted even to them that fear him who Love and obey him but those that are destroyed their Destruction is of themselves as it is written But my People would not hearken unto my Voice Israel would none of me Therefore mark the Cause I gave them over to their own Hearts Lusts Psal. 81. 11. and as S. S. in Contradiction to himself saith Nor doth God consume any Man meerly as his own Workmanship but he adds God endureth with much long Suffering unregenerate men and they fit themselves for Destruction pag. 113. See here how the Man breaks the Neck of his own Cause Is his Opinion of God's Eternally reprobating and ordaining partiticular Persons to Destruction come to this That now while he sheweth long Suffering towards them they fit themselves for Destruction that is they rebel against God resist his Spirit and despise the Riches of his Grace and slight his long Suffering and Patience till they bring swift Destruction upon themselves And this God is not the Cause of He doth not unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass Sin and Rebellion in the Wicked and their Striving against him Isa. 45. 9. are come to pass which he is not the Author of Wo unto him that Strives with his Maker thou hast hid thy Face from us and we are consumed because of our Iniquities which God is neither the Author nor Cause of S. S. God's Election is unchangeable he will certainly bring in never finally reject that Soul he had taken Liking to Nothing sect 7 can fall out not Sin it self causing God to alter his Purpose he foresaw all c. p. 113. Answ. His Election and Purpose thereof where made sure and confirmed by his Spirit in his Sanctified ones who are established in his Grace is unalterable But 1st There are Degrees and Growths in a State of Election before Establishment as those to whom Peter wrote his first Epistle were called Elect according to the fore-Knowledge of God through Sanctification of the Spirit unto Obedience c. 1 Pet. 1. 2. These though Elected so far as they were chosen out of the World through Sanctification and Belief of the Truth yet he both wrote unto them to stir up their pure Minds 2 Pet. 3. 1. and exhorted them to give Diligence to make their Calling and Election sure that they might never fall 2 Pet. 1. 10. But what need of this if they were personally elected from an absolute Purpose of God from Eternity Needed or could they make that more sure which God had made so absolute If so then the Exhortation had more properly run thus viz. Brethren believe that God hath made your personal Election sure from Eternity and then what needed he warn or admonish them concerning the Apostacy of those who denyed the Lord that bought them who had forsaken the right Way or of such who after they had escaped the Pollutions of the World through the Knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ which sure was saving Grace yet were again entangled therein that their latter End was worse with them then the Beginning 2 Pet. 2. Did not then their Sin their falling from Grace and so their Disobedience hinder their Establishment and Security in a State of Election or keep from that Diligence in the Spirit whereby they should have made their Calling and Election sure 2dly His saying That Sin it self cannot cause God to alter his Purpose is not only a gross Mistake as in this Case but also gives a great Liberty to Hypocrites who believe they are eternally elect Persons to continue in Sin and Presumption But in Reproof to such and Confutation of the Mistake see what the Prophet Jeremiah saith in the 18th Chapter where having first declared the Power God had over them by the Instance of the Potter ver 3 4 5 6. He further shews his Purpose and the Manifestation of his Power both in Judgment and Mercy and the Condition on which his declar'd Thought or Intention may be alter'd as where he saith v. 7. at what Instant I shall speak concerning a Nation concerning a Kingdom to pluck up and to pull down and destroy it v. 8. If that Nation against whom I have pronounced turn from their Evil I will repent of the Evil I thought to do unto them v. 9. And at what Instant I shall speak concerning a Nation and concerning a Kingdom to build and to plant it v. 10. If it do Evil in my Sight that it obey not my Voice then will I repent of the Good wherewith I said I would benefit them See also ver 11 12. to the 18th Object If any should thus object That these conditional Alterations of God's Purposes did but concern their temporal Conditions not their eternal c. Answ. It may be answered That it is a Mistake they concerned both except Men repent they shall perish eternally Their persisting in Evil-doing and Disobedience to the Voice of God iâ—…currs eternal Condemnation as well as temporal Punishments so contrary wise through true Repentance c. both have been escaped by many and Godliness is great Gain which hath the Promise of the Life that now is and of that which is to come 1 Tim. 4. 8. 6. 6. Again my unanswered Objection was and still is Were it not impertinent and vain to warn Men of Destruction sect 8 eternal Death or Perishing if from Eternity they were secured from any such Danger Or on the other Hand in time to set before them Life and Death that they might chuse Life refuse Death c. as Deut. 30. 15 16 17 18 19 20. If God had particularly designed them for Death and Destruction how should they then chuse Life Were not this to mock them with a dissembling Proffer of Life if the contrary be so unalterably designed for them S. S. After his fashion answers God that decrees their Salvation decrees by such Warnings to work in them his Fear and an holy Caution to keep them in his Wayes that they may be saved p. 114. Rep. What Fear A Fear
of that which there is no Danger of or that from a Fear of Destruction they may fear him when they are from Etâ—…rnity unalterably secured from Destruction or of Salvation as is supposed What Non-sense and impertinent Preaching and Warning is this to dissemble People into a Fear and Cautiousness of that which they are out of all Danger of incurring especially if God's Purpose in the Case be so unchangeable as to particular Persons that Sin it self cannot alter it Is this Way of Presbyterians warning Men of Destruction being compared with their partial Opinion any better then frighting Children with fond Conceits and Fancies of things that are not But we are sure that the Warnings that both Moses the Prophets and Apostles gave were real and serious both as to their Tendence and Consequence and not with such partial and contradictory Reserves and Opinions as this of the Presbyterians eternal Election and Reprobation of particular Persons Object Whom he will he hardeneth Rom. 9. Peter deserved sect 9 hardening as well as Judas That God hardeneth Judas not Peter proceeds from the meer Pleasure of his Will p. 114. Rep. The Man most egregiously mistakes in this his placing such a severe Act of God's Will as hardening any that are rebellious upon meer Will and Pleasure in our Opposer's Sense as the Cause of such a Judgment whereas it cannot be the meer Will and Pleasure of God to use such Severity as to harden and destroy his Creatures for he delighteth in Mercy Micah 7. 18. and hath no â—…leasure in the Death of him that dyeth and he willeth not the Death of a Sinner but rather his Return Ezek. 18. 23. 33. 11. So that when he will harden or give Persons up to the Hardeness of their Hearts Justice as being provoked is of Necessity the Reason of his so acting and not meer Will and Pleasure neither doth he harden Men from Eternity but in Time because of their Rebellion resisting and gain-saying him in the Time of his long Suffering and Warnings to them which doubtless he fore-saw in Pharaoh who was in himself a proud imperious cruel Rebel against God and Tyrant over his People which appeared when he was warned in his saying Who is the Lord that I should obey his Voice to let Israâ—…l go I know not the Lord neither will I let Israel go * Exod. 5. 2. As also Pharaoh's Rebellion appear'd when he hardened his own Heart when he saw there was Respite Exod. 8. 15. So God's giving him up to Hardeness of Heart was not upon meer Will and Pleasure for that is all the Reason that the severe Actions of such Tyrants as Pharaoh yields as namely Will and Pleasure their Will is their Law they will be cruel and oppress because they will do so But all the Judgments of the Lord are just and righteous respecting the Merit of the Fact or Cause more then meer Will and Pleasure therefore it was his Will to give Phaâ—…aoh Judas and many others up to Hardeness because it was Just so to do for that their Rebellion and Provocation was exceeding great and high against him when as rigorous and cruel Tyrants use their Power in their Cruelties and Oppressions and seek to temporize and draw out their Subjects into Irreligiousness and Debaucheries only upon Will and Pleasure which to affix upon God as the Reason of hardening any is no small Degree of Blasphemy as is this Man 's accusing God with the meer Pleasure of his Will as the Cause or Reason of hardening Judas not Peter his accusing Peter with deserving hardening as well as Judas is his manifest Error making no Difference between Judas his Offence and Peter's nor between their States and Conditions As the State of Peter who through Weakness and Fear denyed Christ which he presently repented of and that of Judas who wilfully betrayed Christ and delivered him into the Hands of Murtherers Was not here a vast Difference between Peter and Judas what say you Professors to it and a great Reason for the Judgment of God upon that Traytor Judas more then meer Will and Pleasure S. S. Arg. As there are particular Angels whom God suffered sect 10 to fall though he could as easily have preserved them as he did the rest so there are particular Men and Women whom God endures with much long Suffering to fit themselves for Destruction therefore from all Eternity did God decree thus to do concerning them in particular for known to the Lord are all his Works from the Foundation of the World p. 114 Answ. God's suffering Men and Angels to fall or to fit themselves for Destruction doth much differ from eternally decreeing them particularly for Destruction for if he had so decreed concerning them meerly as particular Persons what needed he endure tâ—…em with much long Suffering that being both a Testimony of his Grace or Favour towards them and of his Unwillingness to destroy them for his long Suffering and Goodness leadeth some to Repentance and his Judgment is according to Truth upon them that despise the Riches of his Goodness and Forbearance Rom. 2. And concerning the Fall of those Angels that fell 1st God did neither particularly design it nor was he the Author of it no more then of Men's Transgressions in general he hath ordained the Punishment of the Ungodly not their Ungodliness for in Jude 6. it is said The Angels which kept not their first Estate or Principality but left their own Habitation he hath reserved in everlasting Chains under Darkness c. To that Saying God could have preserved them I answer They provoked him which was their great Sin and Loss to themselves Therefore he saw it not meet to continue his Love and Favour to them which they had so abused Neither is it his Will or Way to detain or restrain any forceably in his Way whether they will or not nor to preserve any without their Diligence in attending upon him and keeping their Habitations 2dly So likewise concerning those that were ordained of old to this Condemnation Jude 4. or as it may be read who were of old prescribed to this Judgment of the Ungodly however they as Ungodly Men were so ordained for Condemnation not meerly as particular Persons but as such who were so far fallen from the Grace of God as to transfer his Favours unto Luxury denying the only Lord God They were also Trees whose Fruit wither d twice dead c. Jude 12. Surely they could not be twice Dead if they had never been Quickned but their Ingratitude and Abuse of the Grace of God that had quickned them caused their Condemnation as God spared not the Angels that sinned but cast them down to Hell they having left their own Habitation and spared not the old World nor the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah whom he condemned with an Overthrow making them an Ensample unto those that after should live Ungodly 2 Pet. 2. This sufficiently declares the Reason Cause
to turn from Sin to God in Christ and to seek after good Scripture Evidence of their Election p. 116. Answ. The Matter would have been more congruous thus for that no fallen Men nor Women are reprobated for Everlasting lasting Destruction until they have first slighted the Kindness of God abused his Grace rebelled against his blessed Light rejected his Knowledge as not liking to retain him in their Knowledge this importunately urgeth all in Compassion to their own Souls to turn from Sin to God in Christ while his Grace and Good Will extends to them and a time of Love is afforded them while he maketh his Sun to rise on the Evil and on the Good and sendeth Rain on the Just and on the Unjust Mat. 5. 45. Now this is Matter of Comfort that God doth shew Love and Kindness towards all and that he universally extends Light and offereth Salvation by his Son who indeed is his shining Sun to the Ends of the Earth and that he willeth not or desireth not the Death of any in their Sins but rather their Return and Repentance that they may live But alas What a maniâ—…est Contradiction is it for the Man one while to conclude that God hath from all Eternity reprobated the greatest Part or Number of â—…allen Men and Women or unchangeably designed their Eternal Damnation poor Encouragement another while to tell of importunately urging all in Compassion to their own immortal Souls to turn from Sin to God in Christ How should they have Compassion to their immortal Souls if God hath no Compassion nor Love towards them Or how should Reprobates turn from Sin if eternally reprobated This were but putting them upon an Impossibility and so a flattering and mocking them with a pretended Kindness never intended for them As the Opinion which I oppose vainly supposeth by such specious Pretences Presbyterian Priests c. have flattered many out of their Money which is like as if a Priest in his preaching to a People should bid them all have Compassion upon their Immortal Souls and turn from Sin and then tell them it is impossible they should ever turn from Sin or be saved God having unalterably designed the Destruction and Damnation of the greatest Part of them what Comfort would this Contradiction and cruel Partiality administer to them I pray you It would be but cold Comfort to tell a great Congregation That God had fore-designâ—…d them all except two or three of them to be damned eternally This is not the Word of Faith nor any preaching in the Faith this is not Yea Amen but a saying and unsaying a pretending to comfort and encourage them all and to discourage and lead mâ—…ny into Despair And how then should they seek Evidence in Scripture for their Election or Salvation The Scriptures of themselves do not evidence to particular Persoâ—…s their Election from Eternity the Seriptures do not tell S. Scandrâ—…t Nat. Barnard c. that they are Elect Persons Bâ—…t to them that believe in Christ and in him have obtained Power over their Corruptions and whose Hearts are truly and spiritually tender towards God his Spirit beareth Witneâ—…s wâ—…th their Spirits and evidenceth to them according to Scripture that they are the Sons of God chosen in Christ Jesus through Sanctification of the Spi it and Belief of the Truth and so are adopted through the Spirit of Adoption to be the Children of God and Coheirs with Christ of Eternal Life and Peace S. S. Is the Judge cruel that hangs up a Murtherer sect 15 Answ. No but neither the Judge nor yet the Law doth ordain or prescribe that this or that Person shall be a Murtherer for the Fact is forbidden and the Punishment is prescribed as is the judgment and Punishment of ungodly Men in general S. S. God doth actually damn none but the finally Impenitent Answ. Then their Impenitency is the Effect of their own Disobedience and Rebellion not of God's Decree and this sufficiently conâ—…utes their accusing God with fore-designing or ordaining the Sin or wicked Actions of Men or particular Persons â—…or such and such Wayes and Ends Act. 2. 23. Christ being delivered by the determinate Câ—…unsel and fore-Knowledge of God after you had taken with wicked Hands you havâ—… crucified and slain p. 116. There was a Necessity of his being delivered to suffer as God fore-knew because of the Sins of the World Christ was given up in the Counsel of God on his Part to suffer but their wicked Hands that God permitted to take and murther him were against God and Christ not subject to his Counsel of Love and Mercy but to the Devil and their own wicked Hearts malicious murtherous Spirits and therefore they were by God's Counfel call'd to repent to be converted to turn from their Iniquities Acts 3. 14 15 19 26. But surely God did not call them to reâ—…ent of obeying his holy and just Counsel but of their Iniquities having murthered the Just one Acts 4. 27 28. Against thy â—…oly Child Jesus Herod Pontius Pilate with the Gentiles and the People of Israel gathered themselves together to do whatsoever thine Hand and thy Counsel had determin'd before to be done But see ver 25 26. concerning the Gentilâ—…s Rage and the Kings of the Earth and the Rulers standing up and gathering together against the Lord and against his Christ the Rage and wicked Consultations of whom God was not the Author of for when God by the Mouth of his Servant David asked Why did the Heathen rage ver 25. Would it have been a good Answer for any to have said Lord why dost thou ask Hast not thou â—…ore ordained them to rage imagine vain things Surely no sor thâ—…n he would not ask why but when thereby they had provoked him having rejected his Counsel and Good Will they were given up to work Wickedness and Injustice and so their own Ruin like those who brought Wo upon their Souls for they had rewarded Evil to themselves As God's Counsel fore-saw and perceived as the Jews or People of Israel rejected Christ and would not be gathered by him he said O Jerusalem Jerusalem how oft would I have gathered thy Children even as the Hen gathereth her Chickens under her Wings and you would not he therefore said Ye are the Children of them that murthered the Prophets fill ye up the Measure of your Fathers c. Serpents c. Mat. 23. 31. to the End This was not from an Eternal Decree irrespectively against their Persons but in Judgment and Wrath against them because of their Ungratefulness Envy and Wickedness and so likewise all who receive not the Love of the Truth whereby they might be saved but have Pleasure in their Unrighteousness God gives them up both to strong Delusions and Hardness of Heart for their Iniquity 2 Thes. 2. 10 11. S. S. Is Cod the Author of Sin in determining or fore-ordaining the wicked Actions of these Men It is one thing to decree
that Resurrection Quickening Reviving Changing Translation do not signifie Creation therefore they are not applicable to the Dust of Bodies after Dissolution though both Resurrection and new Creation be to Renewed man Behold I make All things new New Man New Creation New Heavens and New Earth c. but this is a Mystery hid from corrupt Flesh so much contended for by our Present Opposers The rest of his Arguments and Doctrines are mostly very weak and ignorant about this Point yet comprehensively answered in this Book Here follow some Passages out of a Manuscript by W. B. against me with a Reply detecting his Ignorance in consounding the Carnal Body and the Spiritual W. B. INdeed If G. Whitehead hath found out a Body for Christ that is not a Carnal Body which implies only a Fleshly It is such a Body that I never read oâ—… in the Scriptures I would know what in Scripture is called the Body but the Flesh Now take but away the Flesh and where is the Body Aye but saith G. W. It is a spiritual Body as if a Body of Flesh and a Spiritual could not stand together This is his Great mistake The Apostle could have born his Testimony to this Truth that it is the Body of Flesh that shall be raised spiritual 1 Cor. 15. 14 43. It is sown a natural Body 't is raised spiritual here the Apostle still keeps to the Word It c. Answ. The Non-sense and Contradiction that may be gathered from these Passages is that Christ's Body is a Carnal Spiritual Body as if Carnal and Spiritual were both one or that the Spiritual Body that 's raised or given to the Seed is Carnal Let these Passages be kept in Record as the Baptists Doctrine and Testimony whereas the Apostle's own Testimony proves the Contrary and that W. B. has belyed the Apostle For 't is sown a natural Body it is raised a spiritual and there is a Natural Body and there is a Spiritual Body Here the Apostle clearly makes a Distinction and a Difference between the natural Body and the spiritual He doth not say 't is sown a natural Body and raised a natural or Carnal Body also but a spiritual Body as he also distinguisheth between the Bodies Celestial and the Bodies Terrestrial as those of Sun Moon and Stars differ from those of Men Beasts and Fishes Now you would count him a very blind Philosopher that should make no Difference but say they are all one and consistent or that the Bodies of Sun Moon and Stars were all one with those Earthly Bodies of Men and other Creatures and so blind and such Ignorant Divines are these Baptist's He understands not the Difference between the Natural Body and the Spiritual any more then if a Person should be so ignorant as when he sees the Sun or Moon or Stars To ask if these were not Men or Birds or Beasts or Fishes in the Firmament or on the contrary if he should see Men Beasts and Fishes to ask if these are not the Sun Moon and Stars or rather to conclude that they are because he knows not which are Celestial and which Teriestrial no more then this Baptist doth discern between Bodies natural or carnal and Bodies spiritual But how should he do other or see better while his Mind is so much upon Flesh and so little upon Spirit or so much upon Flesh and Blood which cannot inherit the Kingdom of God and so little upon that spiritual Birth or Seed that doth inherit the Kingdom of Glory and Peace And as for the Baptists Argument That the Apostle still keeps to the Word IT as It is sown a natural Body It is raised a spiritual or God giveth it a Body as it pleaseth him and to every Seed his own Body Reply How evident is it that as the Particle It is used as a Relative to both the natural and spiritual Body 't is a mutable It for that there is a natural Body and there is a spiritual Body which therefore are not the self-same the very Parable or Instance of the Wheat and other Grain may confute his Opinion herein For is it the very self-same Grain of Wheat that is in the Eare that was sown in the Ground Let the Husband-Men judge him herein To him we may say as the Apostle did in the same Case to such O Fool thou sowest not that Body that shall be c. 1 Cor. 15. And now the words It 's sown imply a Seed sown in order to a sprouting and bringing forth Increase Upon which it may be queried if that Body of Man to wit that of Flesh Blood and Bones that 's laid in the Grave or drowned in the Sea or devoured by Fire and some by Beast's c. be the Seed that the Apostle intended to which God giveth a Body as it pleaseth him yea or nay If it be answered in the Affirmative then what Body is it that God giveth to it as it pleaseth him If it be answered in the Negative that overthrows the Baptists Doctrine of the same Flesh Blood and Bones c. which W. B. has not distinguished from a spiritual Body THE RESURRECTION Future Glory and Felicity of the SAINTS Further asserted according to the Holy Scriptures Discovering How far short of the true Vision Sight or Revelation thereof our present Opposers are in their gross Thoughts and Traditional Conjectures Being An Examination of Thomas Danson ' s Arguments and Doctrines about the Resurrection Future State and Glory of Believers in his Synopsis THe Resurrection as plentifully asserted in the Scriptures is not in the least question'd by us however we be unjustly censur'd for denying it Therefore there is no necessity of his Argument to evince that which as he saith the Scripture is so plentiful in asserting of nor doth he evince it according to the Scriptures but varies from them as will appear His Argument If the Bodies that have done Good or Evil must receive their Reward accordingly then the same Bodies that dye must rise again But the Antecedent is true therefore the Consequent Answ. This Argument both Antecedent and Consequent appears neither clear nor grounded upon Truth as it placeth an Eternal Reward upon the Body for its temporal Acts in putting the Body on this account for Man that hath acted therein who must receive the things done in the Body 2 Cor. 5. 10. The meer Terrestrial Body being neither the Subject reteining Perpetual Love or Enmity to God nor is it the Original Cause of Good or Evil Actions therefore not the Object of eternal Love or Wrath but Man in his Spiritual Existence or Being as spiritually and suitably organized as it pleaseth God to receive the things done in his Body according to what he hath done whether it be Good or Evil proper and natural to the Image he bears which the Soul carries along with it out of the Earthly Body or House that turns to Dust But see the Proof of his Antecedent That
in apt Resemblances obvious to the Sences as Tophet is ordained of old yea for the King it is prepared he hath made it deep and large the Pile thereof is Fire and much Wood the Breath of the Lord like a Stream of Brimstone doth kindle it Isa. 30. 33. and Bind him Hand and Foot and cast him into ulter Darkness there shall be Weeping and Gnaâ—…hing of Teeth Mat. 22. 13. As also If thy right Eye Hand or Foot offend pluck it out or cut it off and cast it from thee as being better that one Member should perish then the whole Body should be cast into Hell where the Worm dyeth not and the Fire shall never be quenched Mat. 〈◊〉 29. Mark 9. 49. to the end Which still argues that the Impenitent and Wicked are liable to meet with real â—…orment and that he hath spiritually his proper Being and Habit consisting of such spiritual Parts and Sences having an evil Eye a polluted Mind and defiled Conscience covered with Guilt pressed down with the Body of Sin and perplexed with Horror wherein he both receiveth the Deeds 〈◊〉 in the Body and is capable of absolute Misery in the Fire which shall never be quenched where the Worm dyeth not As also it is said The Rich Man also dyed and was buried and in Hell he lift up his Eyes being in Torments and seeth Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his Bosom and he cried said Father Abraham have Mercy on me and send Lazarus that he may dip the Tip of his Finger in Water and cool my Tongue for I am tormented in this Flame Luk. 16. 23 24. When his Body was buried yet he had the Sence of Torments that seized upon him and a Sight of the other's Felicity which he himself had lost Therefore as Christ said I say unto you my Friends be not afraid of them that can kill the Body and after that have no more that they can do but I will fore-warn you whom ye shall fear fear him which after he hath killed hath Power to cast into Hell I say unto you fear him Luk. 12. 4 5. A Summary of the Difficulties in the Point in Controversie FInally The Controversie is run up to these Difficulties which I object upon our Opposers Doctrines and Conceptions 1st How the self same Bodies should arise compleat after dissolved to Dust without a New Creation appears not nor is it demonstrated by them 2. If a New Creation of compleat Bodies of the same Dust and Elements should be conceived or admitted it is Incredible that God should create any corrupt sinful or polluted Bodies thereof for perpetual Torments seeing his Works are pure And as Incredible that he should make a pure Body to be invested with the former Evil Habit of Sin and Corruption for perpetual Torment in Hell-Fire and to be sure the first Elements or Dust of dissolved â—…odies is as pure as at the first 3. If Infants be supposed to arise at the Stature of Men how can theirs be the self-same Bodies they were 4. How the Body of the Saints and Children of the Resurrection should be either a Celestial Spiritual Glorious or Angelical Body and they Equal unto the Angels in Heaven and yet the self-same Earthly Elementary Body that dissolveth to Dust c. such a strange Transubstantiation appears not unless that the Natural Body and the Spiritual the Terrestrial and the Celestial the Human and Angelical be both One and the Self-same 5. That the Soul should not enjoy her self in absolute Felicity or Misery in perfect Glory or Contempt in her proper Vessel or Cloathing spiritually without the Earthly Cloathing which is Dust appears not while the Children of the Resurrection are equal unto the Angels of God in Heaven which are absolutely Happy and the Devil and his Angels absolutely Miserable 6. We cannot believe that the Invisible Infinite God should be seen with the Bodily or fleshly Eyes after Dissolution not that Job intended he should see God with his Flesh or bodily Eyes It being in consistent both with his being an Invisible Eternal or Infinite Spirit and with the true spiritual Sight of him which Job received Job 42. 5. 7. That the Seed to which God giveth a Body as it pleaseth him 1 Cor. 15. and the Body given to it should be one and the self same Earthly Body is a non-sensical Doctrine and an apparent Incongruity 8. That the Terrestrial Bodies should be so desirable to the Souls of the Righteous after Dissolution for the compleating their Felicity and perfecting their Glory appears plainly inconsistent with their desiring here to be dissolved and to be absent from the Body to enjoy and possess a Building of God au House eternal in the Heavens Or that the Souls of the Righteous should be so variable as to desire to be absent from the Body and presently after Dissolution to desire the Resuming of the same Earthly Body or a Re-union to it This implicitely accuseth the Souls of deceased Saints with being in their Affections both Earthly Variable and Unquiet as in a kind of Purgatory Which we can never assent to Thomas Vincent's Illustrations ABOUT THE RESURRECTION Which we may look upon as the Sense of the Rest and as the Explication of their Doctrines and Opinions who are Opposing the Spirituality of our Testimony about the Resurrection Among which some Truths are intermixt though his gross and carnal Conceptions about the Point we cannot close with His Illustrations are in his Book entituled Christ's Certain and Suddain Appearance to Judgment Collected and Placed in his own Words as followeth for the Serious and Spiritual-minded Readers to judge of T. V. GIve me leave to illustrate the Resurrection a little further and here I shall endeavour to set it forth by an Allusion to that notable place Ezek. 37. and ten first Verses pag. 16. some thing like this will the Resurrection be at the Last Day Now the Bones and Bodies of all former Generations are scattered up and down in the Valley of the Shadow of Death some are sunk into the Deep others are buried in the Earth the Flesh is consumed and resolved into its first Elements and the Bones of some remain of others are mouldred into Earth Now when the Lord Jesus Christ the Son of God shall come down from Mount Sion which is above into the Valley of this inferiour World he will Prophesie over all the Bodies and Bones of all the Children of Men that are dead and speak unto them to Live he will say unto them whilft they lie rotting in their Graves Live he will say Awake ye that sleep in the Dust And Oh what a Noise and Shaking will there be then in the Ground What a clattering of Bones together in the coming of Bone to his Bone If the Body hath been quartered and buried part in one place and part in another as the Levite's Concubine who was divided into Twelve Parts and sent to the Twelve Tribes of
a Witnessing of a measure of the same Light Spirit and Power to appear for Redemption in each particular VIII That Justification came by Faith in his Blood is clear in a Sense for by the Law could no Flesh be justified That is the Law being added because of Transgression certainly the Transgressor could not be justified whilst such by that Law which condemned him for being such Which puts me upon Distinguishing betwixt Justification as it is sometimes taken viz. for Remission Pardon or Forgiveness of Sin past upon Repentance and that Justification which implies an Acceptance with and an Access to God as a Keeper of the Law of the Spirit of Life which is to be made Inherently Just. In the first Sense Since all have sinned no Man can be justified by the Law he has transgress'd Therefore that great Favour and Mercy of Remission Pardon and Forgiveness was only then generally preacht in the Name of Jesus that such as believed in his Message should obtain Thus by the Works of the Law shall no Flesh be justified because all the Righteousness Man is capable of caâ—…ot make Satisfaction for any Unrighteousness he has committed since what he daily doth is but what he daily ows But still such as keep the Law are justified for that a Man should be condemned both for Transgressing Keeping the Law too would be very hard What shall we say then but that Justification in the first Sense since Adam's Day to this hath been God's Free Love upon Repentance and above all that by Christ's visible Appearance and in his Name was Remission Pardon or Forgiveness preacht or held forth to the whole World upon their believing therein more eminently then ever But in the last Sense No Man can be justified but as he is made Just and is found actually Doing of the Will of God That justifies that is it gives Acceptance with and Access to God In this Sense it was that the Apostle said Such as are the DOERS of the Law shall be justified and not from the Guilt of what they formerly did against it by then keeping it for that is the free Love of God alone upon the Repentance of the Creature which hath been in all former Ages but never so eminently held forth to the World as by the Coming of Jesus Christ in the Flesh. So that thus far we can approach the Honester Sort of Professors of Religion or rather we never were at a Distance from them viz. That Men may be reconciled and in a Sense justified while Sin may not be totally destroyed That is God upon their Repenting of past Sins whilst not then clearly purged from the Ground of Evil may and we believe doth remit pardon or forgive former Offences and is thus far reconciled that is hâ—… ceaseth to be Wrath or at a Distance from them as whilst they went on in a State of Disobedience to the Light Yet forever we affirm that no Man or Woman can be â—…ade a Child of God but as the New Birth Regeneratâ—… and the iâ—…vine and Heavenly Image comes to be witnessed through the putting off the Old Man and his Deeds and being baptized by the Holy Ghost and Fire into the one Holy Body of which Christ the â—…maculate Lamb of God is Head and Lord. So that all those who apply to themselves or others the â—…romises due to this State unto that before-mentioned heal themselves or other deceitfuly and God will judge for those things So let all People coâ—…sider with Sobriety and Moderation iâ—… the thiâ—…gs we aâ—…ert are not most agreeable with Scripture and that Light of Truth which is in their own Consciences unto which we most of all desire to be made maniâ—…est IX Nor is this all the Good the Life and Sufferings of that Blessed Manhood brought unto the World For having been enabled so effectually to perform the Will of God Living anâ—… so patiently suffered the Will of Wicked Men Dying therein freely offering up his â—…ost Innocent Life for the World He certainly obtained exceeatâ—…g great and pretious Gifts which as every Man comes to believe in the â—…ight wherewith Christ 〈◊〉 hath enlightned him and to be lead by it he shall assuredly fâ—…el a particular Benefit to him accruing from that general one procured by him who so laid down his Life for the World In short As we cannot but acknowledge him a Saviour in That very Manifestation or Coming in that prepared Boâ—…y who appeared so extraordinarily to visit the World with hâ—…s marvelous Light and Truth to turn their Minds from Error and Darkness and actually converted and reclaimed many and endued his Followers with his own Heavenly Light Life and Power whereby to supply his exteriour Absence with a most lively piercing and effectual Ministry for the compleating the rest from Generation to Generation so must we needs attribute this chiefly to the Divine Light Life and Power that through the Manhood of both Lord and Servants put forth and revealed It self to the Salvation of the World Nor are we yet as hath been often hinted to speak strictly to asscribe the particular Salvation of every Man's Soul to the Appearance of that same Light in Nature in either Lord or Servant albeit many were reacht into their very Hearts and Consciences at that time and great and mighty things were generally procured and Christ in that Manifestation became the Author of Salvation unto many but rather as he is the Light of Men Individually both then did and now doth appear in the Hearts and Consciences of Men unto the awakening of whom and turning their Minds from that Darkness of Tradition Formality and Sin which had and doth overcast the Soul unto that blessed Light in the particular that thereby as to them suffer'd and doth yet suffer so great and tedious an Ecclips â—…say this is the Efficient of Salvation and all other Exteriour Visitations Ministries or Assistants though from the same Light are in respect of the Light in every single Man or Woman but Instrumeâ—…al In this Sense then Man is only a Saviour Instrumenâ—…ly but Christ both whether with reference to his own Bodily Appearance or in the Ministry of his Servants he is the most excellent Instrument and the only Efficient Cause of Salvation as revealed and obeyed in the Consciences of Men. So that it is not the Question Whether do the Quakers deny any Benefit to redound by Christ s Bodily Sufferingsâ—… but Whether the Professors allow and acknowledge the Main of the Work to the Divine Life and Light In short He was the General Saviour in that eminent Appearance at Jerusalem in which he did so many great and good things for Mankind a Particular Saviour as we find him in our Hearts an holy Light shewing Sin reproving for and converting from it into the Holy Nature of the Light to be Flesh of his Flesh and Bone of his Bone Thus have I declared according to my Understanding grounded on Experience and
that Illumination God has given me in Moderation the very Truth Weight and Tendency of the Outward Coming of Christ and his deep Sufferings by and for the World And also the Nature of his Inward Coming into the Souls of Men to expel the Darkness that lodgeth there In both which respects I confess him to be the Saviour of the World in general and the Saviour of each Man in particular But that the Benefit accruing to Men from Him as the general Saviour is known and received only where he is witnessed a particular Saviour and that I will abide by For Christ in Man becoming the Hope of Glory and Man's being changed into the same Image from Glory to Glory even as by the Spirit of the Lord is the Salvation and Perfection of every True Christian. CHAP. XXII That Christ is the Light or the Light is Christ. proved from Scripture and so concluded notwithstanding two Objections which are fully answered THat which remains to compleat our Scriptural Discourse of the Light is to pronounce it that which H. H. J. Faldo Tho. Hicks and a Multitude of other Barkers at it despise to call it and don 't a little undervalue both us and It because we do I mean CHRIST Not that the Manifestation of Light in every Conscience is the Intire Christ but that Christ the Word-God is that Light of Righteousness which inlightens all Men for which the Scripture is most express in that so well known but little believed Passage delivered to us by that beloved â—…isciple who best knew what his Lord was and stood in no need of any of their Information how to denominate or rightly character him although they and others implicitely accuse him of Weakness Obscurity nay Error if not Blasphemy too who make it all this and if it were possible more in a poor Quaker for only Believing on pure Gonviction this one weighty Passage THAT WAS THE TRUE LIGHT WHICH INLIGHTENS ALL MANKIND COMING INTO THE WORLD I have so throughly handled this Matter in a late Book intituled the Spirit of Truth Vindicated that I need the less to enlarge at this time to which I refer the Reader for Satisfaction concerning some Objections raised against the place However I will briefly consider it here that our Believing Christ to be an Universal and Sufficient Light and that to be Christ may stand in the View of the World upon so good Foundation as the Testimony of that Divine and well-beloved Apostle Two things are commonly urg'd against our Understanding of the first Nine Verses of John as they respect the Light 1. Some say that the Light here spoken of is not a Super natural and consequently no Saving Light but the Light of common Reason Others call it of Nature decay'd by the Fall and what Conviction ariseth thence is only the Imperfect Remains of that Natural Light which these Men who thus speak grant all to have as well before as after Christ's coming in the Flesh. 2. Others say that this is indeed an Universal and Saving Light but they restrain it to that Visible Appearance and make the ALL to be all those that will believe and the World to be that New Spiritual World Christ came to create by Saving Knowledge which Believers come into I will briefly answer both and therein as well all the pretended Anti-Socinians viz J. Owen R. Baxter T. Danson J. Clapham J. Bunnion S. Eaton J. Grig T. Imner T. Hicks and abundance more who hold the former as those who are reputed Socinians who hold the latter It is agreed by the First in the beginning of this Chapter that Christ's Eternal Divinity is declared by the Evangelist since some of them and particularly J. Owen tells us out of Eusebius that it was written on that very Occasion one Cerinthus then denying any such thing This Word which was with God and was and is God This God the same Person tells us in his first Epistle is Light By Him all things were made among the rest Mankind He then tells us that This Word had Life and from thence descends to inform us what the Word was with respect to Man In Him the Word was Life and the Life the Light of Men as such He was that True Light and not John who only came to bear Witness of that True Light which inlightens all Mankind coming into the World That this Light is Divine and no otherwise Natural then as it is Christ's Nature or Natural to the Word I shall thus prove Man is here supposed to be before he was inlightened therefore what ever was proper and connatural to Man as Man he had before he was inlightened that is he had a reasonable Soul indued with intelligent Faculties and that clothed with a Body fitted with sensible Organs The Latter differ'd him from Inanimate the Former from Irrational Creatures But still the Light with which this Soul is enlightened in reference to God and things appertaining to its Eternal Well being belongs not to Man as Man Surely then this Light must be superadded that is over and above Man's Composition as a meer Understanding Creature and consequently it must descend from above and in this Sense be Supernatural Thus the Word created all things and among them made Man enlightened Man with a Supernatural Light That this Light was not only over and above Man's Nature but is also of a Divine and Saving One in it self 〈◊〉 prove from its being the Life of the Word for if the Life of the Word be the Light of Men here is no such thing as descending to an Effect to prove the Light Divine a that the Life should bring forth a Light and therefore this Light is Divine because the Life of the Word that Product it is so I say without going to an Effect for a Proof of the Light 's Divinity I thus Undeniably prove it from the Life it self for that very Divine LIFE is the LIGHT not that it createth or brings forth a Light as a Cause doth an Effect but is that very Light it self so that unless they will make that Life Natural I mean as they do Created though very improperly for a Divine Life is Natural to Christ they cannot conclude the Light which is not the Product but that very same Life it felf to be a meer Natural Light If then the very LIFE of the Word be the LIGHT of Men unless the LIFE of the Word be NATURAL the LIGHT of Men must be SUPERNATURAL DIVINE and INFINITE as it becomes the LIFE of the WORD which is GOD to be And this roundly checks the dull Ignorance or base Malice of Tho. Hicks who either could not or would not understand G. Whitehead when he said The Light must needs be Divine because the Life from whence it came is so and the Effect is alwayes of the same Nature with the Cause in any other sense then this That because saith Tho. Hicks God is the Cause of Beasts
Light from Christ Jesus the Way out of the Fall the second Adam receiving the Light they receive Redemption and Sanctification whereby their Spirits Bodies and Souls are sanctified Great Mystery p. 91. Note here still that he plainly distinguisheth between the Soul and him that redeems and sanctifies it so that the Soul or Spirit of Man is neither God nor Christ but as much inferior in Subordination to God and Christ as the Creature Man is to the Creator or that which is saved and redeemed to him that saveth and redeemeth The sum of what 's said amounts to this candid Account about the Soul viz. That the Soul and Spirit of Man is not the very Being of God nor a part of God though the original Life of the Soul which came out from God is immutable and infinite there is a divine and infinite Life in the Soul of Man which we would have you be sensible of This is the Life of Lives the Soul of Souls the Being of Beings by which the Soul of man is made to subsist in its Being and Immortality whether in the Kingdom of Glory or Pit of Darkness although this original or divine Life in the Soul stands clear and free from both the Guilt Torment and Anguish that comes upon every Soul of Man that does Evil. Every Soul must appear before the Lord in its own proper Image and Nature which it hath born been under and received while in the Body having been subject either to the Spirit and Power of God or to the Spirit and Power of the wicked one wherein it s capable of either being a Vessel of Mercy and Love or a Vessel to hold Wrath and Anguish according to what it doth here love and effect and contract to it self whether Good or Evil. Therefore as it s commanded Take heed to thy self and keep thy Soul diligently c. love the Lord thy God with all thy Soul c. and then thou wilt know Christ to be the Salvation of it The Scripture speaks variously of the Soul and as in divers States and Conditions viz. 1. Of the Soul of God which is Immutable 2. Of the Soul of Man and that 1. Of the Righteous which really pertake of the divine Nature 2. Of the Wicked which pertake of the Nature of Enmity And these differ in their Affections the one being to Good and the other to Evil. Mention is made of the Soul as under the Power of Sin Death and the Grave by man's Disobedience and Fall and of the Soul as quickned raised up and delivered or saved by the Power of Christ the living ingrafted Word Sometimes the Soul is mentioned as including the whole man sometimes as distinguished from the Body sometimes it s esteemed as the Life and sometimes the Spirit or Breath of Life and an active Soul inspired and there is a State wherein the Word of the Lord is said to divide asunder betwixt the Soul and Spirit Now if you do not own a divine Seed or unchangeable Principle of Life in the Soul I query of you 1st Do you or did you ever know your own Souls 2ly What the Soul is in it self and distinct from the Body 3ly What and where is that to be known that is to change the Souls and so the whole man's Affections from Evil to Good while man remains in this Life 4ly Do you own the Souls Immortality that it doth not dye with the Body Do not some of you Baptists hold that the Soul dyeth with the Body and sleeps in the dust of the Earth untill both arise together 5ly Whether Man doth not subsist in his spiritual Being and Parts with a spiritual Capacity and spiritual Sences having a Sense of perpetual Gain or Loss when his Earthly Tabernacle is put off 6ly Whether the Spirit of Man doth not return unto God that gave it to receive its Judgment and Reward 7ly Whether Man must not be born again here of an Immortal and Incorruptible Seed in him if ever he enter into God's Kingdâ—…m or enjoy Glory hereafter 8thly Whether it be not more necessary for you to wait in humilily to know this immortal Seed in you and to be born thereof then to puzzle your Brains and to busie your Thoughts either about the Questâ—…on how and with what Body are the Dead raised Or how your Souls shall be invested hereafter If you remain here in the Enmity slighting and contemning the Light within or the immortal Principle or incorruptible Seed within as T. H. doth scoff and ridiculously droll at our Testimony for it you 'll be clothed with perpetual shame and Contempt hereafter God knows how to reserve the Unjust to the Judgement of his great Day to be punished as both Divels fallen Angels and wicked men are reserved You need not question in what Bodies or Vessels for that you shall be vessels fit to hold inevitable Wrath if here in time you repent not But if you repent and return to the Lord God and love and serve him with all your Souls it will be well with you hereafter God will provide well for you And the Glory wherewith his sanctified Ones shall be invested And of that House wherewith Righteous Souls shall be cloathed upon is beyond the reach of humane Capacities Thoughts or Imaginations of men And you who are contending and quarrelling about your carnal Bodies have not had so much as a Vision of the Glory of the Saints hereafter nor of the Gloriousness and Spirituality of their Body who are as the Angels of God in Heaven Sect. XII The Neck of the Baptist's Cause broken by his own Concession to the Light within in which Christ and his Testimonies are effectually received T. H. HOw could you call the Light within Christ if some Scriptures had not mentioned Christ in you that he is the Life and Light of Men Give me an Instance of any Person in the World that never had Acquaintance of the Scriptures that ever called the Light in every Man by this Name If none can be produced then the Scriptures must be your Rule for this p. 22. Answ. Thou hast said enough in not only granting the Light within to be Christ but also in confessing that he is the Life and Light of men which while he is really so to men this is sufficient for them to call him as he is and appears to them Is it not therefore great Ignorance to imply him an insufficient Rule for men to give Testimony of him while he is a sufficient Rule and Light to them for their Supply and Life in him And what if they cannot call him by all those Names by which he is called in Scripture while they feel him in Vertue and Power to be really what he is called according to their Enjoyment of him It s true we having the Knowledge of him as our Life and Light we must needs reverently own and make use of those Testimonies in Scripture which concur with our Knowledge of him
and that to evince the Truth concerning his Light to them that pretend a Belief of the Scriptures while yet they are opposing his Light testified of therein As there are those that pretend to believe Moses and the Prophets and think to have Eternal Life in the Scriptures while yet they really oppose that Life and Light testified of in them And such profess the Scriptures to be their Rule while yet they are perverting them against the Life and Light from whence they came and this Hypocrisie many of you are guilty of and therefore with Abraham we refer you to the Scripture Testimony in this Case which if you believe not while you profess them you will not believe if one rise from the Dead The Scriptures are not our only Rule for our refusing to swear our not breaking Bread with you c. for which thou falsly accusest us of arguing against the Institutions of the Gospel p 23. for 1st We stand for the Reputation of Christianity and that Love which injures no man in our resâ—…sing to swear which the Prohibition without us did not bring us to but the Power of Christ when it begat us into that Love wherein we know the fulfilling of Christ's Command 2ly Oâ—…r Experience of Christ Jesus the Living Bread which comes down from Heaven hath shewed us the Uselesness of your breaking Bread as being but a Shadow while we are come to the Substance to wit Christ Jesus the Bread of Life come down from Heaven which if thou knowest him so come as that his Flesh and Blood were thy Meat and Drink thou wouldst not be doting about the Shadow We do not grant that Christ is so come and revealed in all men and yet own some degree of this Light to be in all Thou hast no Reason to accuse us for Lyars in this matter as in p. 23. But thy slanderous Tongue and Pen is at Liberty in this and many other things Thy Malice also plainly appears in charging us of denying the Person of Christ whereas we have fully confest the Man Christ according to the Scriptures both with respect to his Sufferings and Glory Sect. XIII The Baptist's Impious Forgery upon the Quakers about the Scriptures which are in Reality owned and used by them AFter thou hast erroniously accused that of God in us as not sufficient to direct thou proceedst in thy false fictitious Dialogue thus viz. Chr. Is it ingenuous and honest in you to deny the Scripture to be a Rule to others and at the same time you make it though by mis-interpreting it a Rule to your selves Are not you ashamed of this Deceit and self-condemned of plain Partiality And then he most falsly personates the Quaker Qua. Thou mistakest us for when we make Use of the Scriptures 't is only to quiet and stop their Clamors that plead for it as their Rule Reply Who but an Ungodly Man would have brought forth such a lying Forgery as this in the Sight of the Sun as the Quakers Words which is not the Speech of any real Quaker so called but one of thy own making to speak as thou pleasest for thy own wicked ends and thy Lye upon the Quakers is manifest herein Is this the Way thou proposest for our Conviction to make Lyes thy Refuge Was it not known unto the World that we have a better and more serious Esteem of the Holy Scriptures then here thou represents as knowing them to be profitable to the man of God who is come to know that eminent divine Rule of the Spirit which opens them and to make use of them in Subjection thereunto As also our denying that they are the Rule of Faith is no Proof that we deny them to be any Rule at all while in Subserviency to and Proof of the greater we make use of them as the Spirit of God teacheth and for the Information and Conviction of them that have a Belief concerning them for the End still that they may eye that Light and Spirit of Truth which gave them forth and come to know that Inspiration of the Almighty which giveth the Understanding As for Deceit Impudence and presumptuous Conceit which thou T. H. accusest us of thou art highly guilty thereof thy self or else thou couldst never forge such Lyes against us as thou hast done And we wish thou didst in Reality own the Scriptures as feigndly in Words thou pretend'st So far are we from strenuously endeavouring to take People off of the Scriptures as falsly thou accusest us that we desire all might come to know the Righteous Ends for which they were given forth by that divine Light which opens them Much of thy dirty stuff is gathered out of other dirty lying Pamphlets which have been long since answered Sect. XIV His impious Abuse about Revelation Light within Scriptures c. ANd why dost thou quarrel against us for owning Revelation or Perfection as attainable What hast thou against Immediate Revelation Instead of confuting the thing it self thou tellst us of some personal Mistakes or Weaknesses of some particulars as First Of one being mistaken by Paul Hobson's speaking through a Trunk though that was no Quaker who was thus cheated 2ly Of others being mistaken about the Persons to whom they should have declared some Message 3ly Of a notorious Falshood being taken for a Revelation 4ly Of the Opposition of some professing the Light and Revelation p. 26 27. together with several other Stories and Personal Reflections which I have very much Cause not to believe But suppose many of these Stories were true against private Persons Hast thou herein dealt ingenuously thus no inveigh against Principles from personal Failings of such as profest them Is there no such thing as divine Revelation or the Guidance of an Infallible Spirit to be known because some do err or are mistaken that profess them Or no such thing as an infallible Light because some have differed in some particular Cases that have profest it Wouldst thou thus be dealt by concerning thy Water-Baptism or pretended Gospel-Institutions If it should be argued that because the Dippers are greatly divided among themselves and that about Principles and Doctrines and some of them have been grosly corrupt and debaucht in their Lives therefore their dipping or Water-Baptism is no Institution of Christ wouldst thou look upon this as a good Argument Nay further Do you not much differ among your selves in several principal matters As about personal Election and general Redemption and so about the Death of Christ whether for all or some and about Free-Will the seventh Day Sabbath and laying on of Hands and about the manner of administring your pretended Lord's Supper and about the Immortality of the Soul as also some affirming Water-Baptism to be of Necessity to Salvation others not with several other things and yet most of you that thus differ profess the Scriptures to be your Rule If then I should from hence argue that therefore the Scriptures are not the Rule