said he could commit him to prison for telling him he did lye though it was so and in great rage commanded to bring F. G. and accordingly they did bring him forth of Magoâ— this is the fruit of Priest Barnes and his chief member Edward Herbert Again Francis Gawlar was moved to go to the Steeple-house at Newport where Henry Walter was who made a signe to some of his hearers as some took notice of and suddenly 〈◊〉 G. was haled away and could not have the liberty to clear his conscience to his former Pastor which lay upon him to do and after he had ended in the yard he came something near to Henry Walter and asked him whether he did own the men in haling him away his answer was why would he not let him alone and suddainly according to his mind before him Henry Mâ—rgan Reece one of his Church who is formerly mentioned haled him away and brought him down to the Town and then up again the Hill turning him out of the Town charging him he should not come again there saying the Mayor James Young had given him that order but had none under his hand for so doing these are the fruits of Hen Walter who was formerly Fra. Gawlars Pastor who was called before the Church for denying them and that which he had to lay to his charge was that he turned people from the Steeple-house and said he was bewitched and so was afraid that Fra. Gawler would bewitch him and so went away and would talk no more with him Again Edward Edward Eliz. Holmes and Fr Gawlar of Cardiff being at a meeting in Shere-newton in the county aforesaid were taken out of the meeting and brought before John Nicholas William Bleathie and Robert Jones called Justices in William Bleathins house in the Parish aforesaid where this following discourse was I. N. R. I. W. B. You have broken the Law in meeting together under the tree so near the Steeple-house and we have several times warned you of it before this therefore we must deal with you according to the law Answ We have broken no law of the Nation in meeting together for the Law of the Nation giveth liberty to all for to meet together in the faith of Christ in the which we meet together therefore we have broken no law J. N. The law saith the Minister should not be disturbed going to or coming from his exercise Answ That law we have not broken now for we did not see the Minister nor spake to him J. N. Though you did not see the Minister nor speak with him yet you know he was diâ—turbed by your meeting being in the way so near the Steeple-house where the people did go forth so by this there was a disturbance Answ We believe the Minister and you were troubled because the people came forth of the Steeple-house to our meeting yet we have not broken the law for the law saith it must be proved that such came wilfully maliciously and of set purpose to to make disturbance and if such an Oath were taken before thee I think thou wouldst hardly believe it J. N. We shall â—o nothing but what we have proof for some did hear the voice of one of you in the Steeple-house and so it must be a disturbance Answ It must be proved that such a one did maliciously and wilfully make a disturbance therefore let it be proved J. N. Walter Jenkins voice was heard in the Steeple-house and therefore it was a disturbance Answ Walter Jenkins was not here this day therefore believe them not who inform thee against us J. N. Walter Jenkins was here the last time and his voice was heard then Answ That which thou dost question us for is for meeting together now and that we have made a disturbance which cannot be proved therefore what Walter Jenkins did is past and he is ready to give an account for what he hath done J. N. Do you own the Scriptures to be the word of God yea or nay Answ If thou saist the Scripture is the word of God prove it and produce one Scripture that saith the Scripture is the word of God J. N. I will do so R. Jones We will not prove it till you first deny it Answ It lyes upon the Governor to do it whether we deny it or no because he said he would prove it therefore let him R.J. We shall not prove it tell you first deny it Answ The Governor said he would prove it so we may refuse the answer till he proves yet notwithstanding for the sake of the simple-hearted people here if you will take an answer according to the Scriptures of truth we shall answer you which we know may satisfie you R. I. We are willing to receive an answer according to the Scriptures of truth Answ The Scriptures we own to be the words of God which are a declaration of the Word of God which was from the beginning before Scriptures were written and is as a hammer and a sword dividing asunder between the marrow and the bones and to this the Scripture stands a witness for us Joh. 1 1 2 3. Heb. 4.12 J. N. You have given us more satisfaction then some of your friends have done and you speak very well to own the Scripture to be words of God which indeed is truth and we are glad to hear you say so R. I. But how is it you call our Ministers deceivers and some of you never saw their faces before which is a strange thing to us I pray you tell us Answ It is an easie thing to know a Deceiver and a false Prophet for they are marked with the mark of the Beast in their foreheads and you may read in the Scripture so many hundred were marked with the mark of the Beast in their foreheads and they were those that upheld the worship of the Beast in the Idols Temples where the beast is now worshipped in this generation by which mark the false prophets are known to be deceivers though their faces we never see and take heed how you uphold them least you be partakers of their plagues R. J. Indeed we read in Scripture as you say that so many hundreds were marked with the mark of the Beast in their foreheads but it is a strange thing to us that you know our Ministers by that mark Answ I believe thee friend where thou art that is a strange thing to thee but if thou wilt come down to Gods witness the light which shines in thy heart thou wilt come to see it as plain as we speak it J. N. Yea but do you not know that you have profited by our Ministers and that the presence of God went with them I pray you honestly confess Answ I shall honestly declare unto thee there was a time that the presence of God went with some of them and in that time they did bear witness against Tythes Types figures and shadows saying Christ was come and hath set an end to
after he had ended she proposed a Question unto him in much moderation and required him to answer her in answer he bad the Magistrates do what they would unto her and so fled like a hireling and the Magistrates did not persecute her but were very moderate some of them with much people hearkened diligently to the word of truth which she spake which is more commendations for them and shame to the chief Priest VVal. Craddock who uttered forth such words to the Magistrats Again the first day of the week being the 5th of the fourth moneth 1659. Elizabeth Holms and Francis Gawler of Cardiff going to a meeting in Mâ—nmouth-shire beyond the place called Christ-church according to the leading of the spirâ—t of truth was made to return back to the Steeple-house above mentioned and let Elizabeth Holms go to the meeting and for standing before VValter Craddock above mentioned about the beginning of his Sermon Craddock said to his friends Let me have peace and Francis Gawler did not speak a word to him then so suddenly one Thâ—mas Jonâ—s a chief man sometimes a speaker for the Priest hastily leads him away and in going forth Francis Gawler asked VValter Craddock whether he did own him in haling him forth to which he answered nothing but the man Thomas Jones said he did own him in so doing so accordingly did bring him forth of the Steeple-house and fastened the door and none should be permitted to come in but those that had the mark of the beast in their foreheads and many of the people came forth of the Steeple-house then the man Thomas Jones came forth also and brought Francis Gâ—wler away from the people and gave him to the constable charged him to keep him but the Constable being a harmless man let him go and a time after Francis Gawler met VValter Craddok coming from the Ale-house where he had bin at dinner going to the Steeple-house to his afternoon Sermon so spoke a few words to VVal. Craddock to which he gave no answer but presently complained to captain Blâ—â—thin called Justice said if he would not take some course with him he would take his horse and go away so according to his complaint Bleathin led him away and gave him to the Constable and charged him to keep him prisoner Then suddenly one Henry Williams called a Lieutenant did much abuse Francis Gawler and called him a Vagabond though he knew he had been a Commission Officer in the Garison of Cardiff in the same Regiment with him Yet such was the mans enmity and Malice against Francis Gawler for the chief Priest that he called Francis Gawler a Vagabond and charged the Constables to keep him Prisoner so according to Captaine Blâ—athins Order was F ancis Gawlâ—r kept Prisoner that day and night the next day by the Constable was he brought to Newport and there Blâ—athin in Priest Jenkins house Ordered the Constable in the name of the keepers of the Liberties of England to keep him in custody and bring his body before him and his associate Justice to Llaâ—melin the Governer of Châ—pstowes house the 7. day of the 4 moneth so accordingly the Constable brought him before them and in the way met with Bleathin and the Priest John Howell going to the Governours house so the Priest having Guilt on him indeavoured to cleare himself saying he was sorry to see Francis Gawler brought from one place to another and that he had no hand in it but before the Governours and the Justice his treachery and double-mindedness was made manifest and hypocrisie who endeavoured to Imprison Francis Gawler with Walter Craddocks Informers Namely Edmond Morgan of Newport who informed the Governour that Walter Craddock said unto him on the word of a man and as he was a minister that he was never so disturbed in all his life time and if some course might not be taken with Francis Gawler he would never come there more and Priest John Howel informed and said Francis Gawler would not let them alone but spake to them in the way and called them deceivers and that they had the mark of deceivers in their foreheads and so the Governour and Justice would have Francis Gawler to promise them to meet them that day moneth and they would give him liberty till then but he would not make no such promise but required them that he should be tryed for he had been severall dayes in prison already and so required the Law to be proved he had broken and he was willing to suffer for declaring against deceivers then Francis Bleathin said they could keep him six dayes before they committed him then the Governour would have him promise to leave Walter Craddock and his former pastor and the rest of the Ministers alone and not speak to them and they would let him go but no promise he would make for he stood not in his own will but as the spirit of truth led him he must speak to them who hath the mark of deceivers in their foreheads and so a time after by the aforementioned men Francis Gawler was released and the Constable which kept him Prisoner said he was disturbed and these are the fruits of Water Craddock and John Howel called Ministers who struck Thomas Holms twice with his horse Rod till the Rod twined about him and Walter Craddock neer Newport in the aforesaid County meeting Francis Gawler cryed unto him saying Get thee behind me Satan I have hearkned to thee but now do deny thee thou dost torment me day and night I speak not to thee Gawler but to the devil in thee So Francis Gawler made a reply unto him his answer was I will not hearken to the Devil So Francis spake to him in much moderation Then he called Francis a flattering Devil and violently struck the beast that Francis rode on endeavouring to get F. G before him but Francis Gawler having not the freedom to pass stopped the beast then his man or one that rode with him came and helped him till they brake their weapons upon the beast and at last passed away before Francis Gawler and VValter Cradock in Newport called for the Magistrates said he would have Fran. Gawler fast and Francis Gawler went with him till he alighted about the middle of the Town and there left him where he was going to preach over Hen. VValters wife which was then going to be buried and it was ordered according to the leadings of the spirit of Truth that Elizabeth Holmes and Alice Burkat came to Newport and they went into the Steeple-house in Newport where Walter Craddock was who said in his delivery the wicked was tormented night and day and a little before he did acknowledge he was tormented night and day therefore by his own words he is a wicked man who then fled like a hireling and would not stand fearing torment and this man is taken to be the chiefest Priest in South-Wales who deceives many simple hearted people going under
Tythes and some of them durst not receive them for conscience sake the which now they receive and plead for and receive hundreds by the year by it therefore the presence of God is withdrawn from them whom we deny and by their fruits they are known J. N. We will lâ—t â—hem alone to plead for themselves Answ Do so and let them fight for their God and our weapons shall not be carnal but spiritual R. J. You say the â—ight shines in the heart which gives the knowledge of God in the face of Jesus Christ and in so doing you add to the Scriptures Answ We say the light shines in the heart which gives the knowledge of God in the face of Jesus Christ and if thou denyest it it lyeth upon us to prove it R. J. The Scrip ure doth not say it shines in the heart therefore you add to the Scripture Rob. Jones and the Governor took a Bible and sought the place and they had the words of the place without book but the words the light shines in the heart so they missed to find the place then Fran. Gawlar took the book and concluded with Rob. Jones that if it was not so as he said he must own his error before the people to which he said very good he would do so then F Gawlar turned to the place of Scripture Cor. 2.4 and gave it him to read which he did and honestly confessed his error before the people and said you are in the truth and we are in the error Answ We shall not make thee an offender for a word but if thou hadst had such advantage against us thou wouldst hardly have past it by but we are taught to do foâ— thouâ—and the Governor have asked us many questions which have bâ—â—n answered and you cannot say you are unsatisfied in any one particular Now we would ask you one question Quest Did Peter or Paul speak one thing and mean another when they spake R. Jones Answered Nay they did not speak one thing and mean another Reply Then do not thou make meanings to their words R. Jones Answered I shall not do it Then the Governor and he went out of Will. Bleathins house where many people were a great room full who said one to another the Quakers are in the truth and the Justices are in the error so Eliz. Holmes and Eâ— Edward were brought to the Ale-house and there kept prisoners but people had liberty to come unto them and the room could not contain the people that were there very diligently hearkening unto them who after the Priest had done his exercise were released by Jâ— Nicholas and Robert Joneâ— the forementioned men called Justices with whom this discourse hath been which we now bring to publike view finding it upon record the which may shame Edward Herbert and other Justices of Glamorgan-shire who have acted contrary to the law of the Nation which is here laid down Again Frar Gawlar several times hath been haled out of the Steeple-house in Cardiffe and in the streets much abused by Drunkards swearers and scolding women namely Anthony Pâ—wry Shoo-maker Thomas Wiâ—iams James Evans Guy the Fisher who hath been in actual Arms against the Common-wealth and many more and such as these are the Priests guards in the Steeple-houses and streets and by those have we who have been faithful in our places and trusts in the service of the Commonwealth been much abused to the shame of the Magistrates and Priests of Cardifâ— be it spoken who suffered their former friends to be so dealt with onely for clearing their consciences to their former Teachers namely E. Elâ—â— and Josuah Miller who did in Cardifâ— boast in the Post-masters house at one time that if any of the Quakers would come to their meetings he would dispute accordingly Francis Gawlar was moved to go to the Steeple-house in Cardiff where hundreds of people were expecting some things then Francis Gawlar spake unto him to which he returned and said Go stitch thy hats and so like a hireling fled before half his Sermon was ended and the next day he did endeavor to Imprison Francis Gawlar who by a warrant was brought before the Bayliffs who cleared him understanding how the Priest had boasted before and would not stand but fled before half his Sermon was ended the which tormented him and his shame was so great that he endeavored to clear himself by a book called Antichrist in 〈◊〉 man the Quakers Idol which was answered read the book entituled Antichrist in man Christs enemy wherein his lying is made manifest and damnable doctrine who saith It s an error if not damnable to say that Christ is the waâ— to salvatiâ—n this he affirms in his book page 13. line 5. and 6. So its little matter what such a man as this protests before angels or men who holds such a doctrine and saith Lying is â—â—sâ—â— but a change of the mind this hath been charged upon him and is ready to be proved by witnesses and for this he stroke Francis Gawlar with his kane with his two hands in Cardiff Again Francis Gawlar for asking Benjamin Flower Priest a question in Cardiff in the Steeple-house where the Judges of the County were present a warrant was given forth with John Gibbs a Lawyer John Herbert Rice Davis and John Fennels hands to it and according to their warrant F. Gawler was apprehended and brought before them in the Town Hall in Cardiâ— where the Constables were commanded to take off his hat but they were not willing to do it but fearing their threatenings with a fine took off his Castor from his head which was never brought home to him to this day and by them he was committed to prison which was a breach of their Sabbath and the Law of tâ—e Nation being done on the first day of the week the which was not proved against him yet by them was he kept prisoner for many moneths and at one time he speaking to Priest Flower in the street passing by he was that night set up close prisoner about the ninth or tenth hour of the night by the Serjeants who as they said were commanded so to do by Reece Davis who was in the Priests house that night and a time after N. S. wife went to Reece Dâ—vis unknown to F. G. and asked him if he would give F.G. leave to go to a meeting his answer was If F. G. would promise to let Mr. Flower as he called him alone he would let him forth of prison but no such promise F.G. could make and so was kept close prisoner a long time and after was released and never brought to tryal So J. H. being dead and J. F. being since convinced of the evil of his ways we shall ask John Gibbs Lawyer and Riece Davis Baylie whether they did do as they would be done by in taking F.G. Castor which was worth a great deal of money and whether they sold it we know not but we know the Lawyer
Molton one pewter tankard towards the reparation of that Steeple-house in all taken for that greedy Priest French towards the said repâ—â—â—â—â—iâ—n twelve pounds and more in sheeep Cows Lambs brass pewter and the demand hardy amounts to five pounds Again Mary Richard and Mary Moss of Pennarth in Ciâ—â—y for clearing their conscience to John Câ—tts Priest were haled and beaten and drawn up a pair of stairs and there set in stocks by the Constable and Priests man Cradock Griffith Walter Rayland John Lewis VVilliam Lewis John Mâ—yâ— John Fabarn Again Eâ—iz beth Holme according to the leadings of the spirit of truth went into Pembrookshire where large meetings she had and in a meeting at Thomas Baâ—rats house in Tenbigh in the aforesaid County where Adam Hawkins Priest came with two Bibles under his arm Joel 2.28 Act. 21.9.2.17 Rom. 16.3 and standing till the meeting was ended and there spoke to Elizabeth Hâ—lmes saying Paul said a woman was not permitted to speak the which she cleared unto him as it is plain according to Scripture How Pâ—isciâ—a was â—aul fellow-helper and that one had four daughters which did declare the word of truth and the Lord said he would power of his spirit on all flesh and sons and daughters should prophecy in his name so it is very clear the spirit of truth is permitted to speak in male and female to which this Priest Hawkins could little object but said he did believe that Elizabeth Holmâ—â— was a woman that did convert many souls to God and it was truth she spake and if she would come to Hartâ—ordwest where he was going to be Minister he would give her way to speak to the people a time after she went to Hartfordweâ—â— according to the leading of the spirit of truth and another friend with hâ—r Alice Burkat which was about the beginning of the second moneth 59. where they had a large meeting in William Batemans house the which tormented the Magistrates and Priest that officers came and brought Elizabeth Holmes and Alice Burkat and William Bateman before the Maior and Thomas Davis called Justice and by them Elizabeth H lmes and Alice Burkat were committed to the house of Correction and by the master of the house of Correction at first was threatned to set bolts on them but he did not do it so afterwards became very loving and suffered meetings in the prison where they were detaiâ—ed about fourteen dayes untill the Quarter Sessions Priest Adam Hawkins came unto them endeavoring to clear himself that he had no hand in the Imprisonment but they would not believe him but told him the contrary so to the quarter Sessions they were brought where the Maior and Thomas Davis and more men called Justices were and Priest Hawkinâ— so unto them Elizabeth Hâ—lmes declared what passed betwixt the Priest and her in â—enbigâ— and how he came unto them to clear himself of having any hand in the persecuting of them then Thomas Davis one of them that had committed them said in open Court that he would not let them be quiet until they were imprisoned and so reproved the Priest and said unto him that if he would not be more watchful of his words he was not fit to be their Minister and by the Court in the Sessions was Elizabeth Holmes and Alice Burkat cleared and by it were Lewis Barron Mayor and Thomas Davis made manifest who had committed them as vagabonds and wanderers but from being so they are clear and the salse accusations atop of them was cast and by truth judged into the pit of darknesse from whence it did arise with their enmity who commited William Bateman at first for receiving them a man all along well affected to the honest party and suffered much loss by Charls Stuarts party and now some of the Magistrates of Hartford-west formerly adhering to Charls Stuart hath an enmity against him as plainly doth appear who endeavoured with Priest Hawkins to lay blasphemy to his charg so under that colour committed him to prison there to remain to the great assizes for the County and Humphery Wiâ—â—iams with him both expressed in the same commitment so some of William Batemans relations gave bail to answer accordingly if they would bring the matter before the Judge of the Assizes without fainting it would be well for if they do so it is like the Magistrates enmity and the Priests shame will be double made manifest And after Elizabeth Holms and Alice Burkat were releast by them at the Sessions about a day after Alice Burkat meet with the Mayor in the street and spoke a few words unto him for which he sent her to Bride-well and about two dayes she was kept there and after made a lying pass intending to send her to Cardâ—ff so forth of Harford-weâ—t she was brought with it but the Constable having less enmity and more wisdom then the Magistrates let her go where she would and these are the fruits of Lâ—wis Barran called Mayor of Hartfort-weâ—t and Thomas Davis called â—ustice and Adam Hawkins called a Minister who was proved in open Court a notorious lyar in Hartford-west in Pâ—mâ—r oâ—-shire commonly called Little England beyond VValâ—s where this Priest is called a Minister who violently struck John ap Jones in the house of VVilliam Bateman witnesses Henry K ly and VVil Bateman with others this is a great shame to Hartford-wâ—â—t to suffer suâ—h a man to be called their Minister Again Jâ—nnit Jones of Hartford-wâ—â—t for standing before this Priest Adâ—m Hawkinâ— in the Steeple-house of Hartford-west the Magistrate and the people were amazed as they relate in the Commitment for which she was committed to the house of correction till the quarter Sessions by Lewis Barran called Mayor of Hartford-west about the 1â— of the 2 moneth 1659. Again William Thomas of Llanducy in Pâ—mbrook-shire for standing witness against Stephen Hâ—ges called Minister in the Steeple house of Llandevilâ— for which he was apprehended and brought before John Elâ—iot called Justice who committed him to Goal and there to remain until the general Sessions to be holden for the County of Pâ—mbrook this was done in the name of the Keepers of the Liberty of England the 23 day of the third moneth 1659. Though this man Stephen Hughes be accounted such a great Priest in P mbrook and Carmarthen shires yet here he is made manifest to be a persecutor and a striker who struck Evan John of the Parish of Landeny in the County aforesaid in the presence of William Thomas and G â—rge Hâ—wel of the said parish Again â—lizabeth Holms being moved of the spirit of truth Alice Burkat with her to go to the Steeple-house called Christ-Church in Munmouth-shire where VValter Cradock was who haled Alice Burkat down and said get thee behind me Satan Again the first day of the week being the eighth day of the third moneth Elizabeth Holms was moved of the Lord to go to VValter Craddock in the same place above mentioned and