distinctly what is maintained by the Author and what is denyed by Dissenters but he abruptly ingageth in Probations before his Reader can know what it is that must be proved whereby its impossible for him rationally or convincingly to place a Censure as for instance in this same Chapter he beginneth off hand with his Proofs of Bodily Worship which Dissenters deny not and so goeth on imposing on his Reader as if we were all stated Enemies to Bodily Adoration which is an injust Imputation 2ly The Authors stating of Bodily Worship as bodily without internal Adoration as one of the distinct grand parts of Worship by its self is not safe because Bodily Worship separated from internal adoration can be no acceptable Worship to God which is the rather to be adverted because in the following Discourse it will appear that the Author will have it Worship yea accepted Worship where not only there was a privation and want of inward homage but a fixt hatred of the Object externally worshiped Before I proceed to examine the Authors Arguments it will not be amiss to take notice of his Concession on this Head Page 133. saying But that in whatsoever place or whatever time in whatsoever posture we offer up our Spirits and hearts to God we are accepted of him This must be whether we pray sitting lying standing or kneeling c. This breaketh the bones of all his arguments seing praying with grace in the heart will be acceptable to God in any posture All the Author hath on this first Section until Page 106. are probations for bodily worship or external Adoration and the Scriptures quoted we accept without dispute knowing we should glorifie God in body and Spirit according to his command But here he beginneth a retreat from his concession as too ample and to say truth it was too large being so ill cautioned his words now are It being a contempt of God and contrary to his Commands to pray to him for instance without some posture of adoration when we can do it Ans This is an unwarrantable censure besides it 's being contradictory to his Concession for Elijah so far as we can understand by his circumstances might have choosed another posture when he sat and spake to God 1 Kings 19. 6. whom we cannot charge with contempt of God being a Prophet so zealous for his glory When our Saviour gave the miracle of feeding so many thousands with a few loaves Matth. 14. 19. he commanded the people to sit down on the grass and looking up to Heaven he blessed and brake c. Here was sitting at most Divine and Solemn worship and yet no contempt on the peoples part for they were Commanded to sit down Godly men who are acquainted with continual resorting into God and making their requests known to him in every thing praying alwayes may often in a day yea possibly in one hour direct their prayers unto God The Artificer in his Shop the Merchant in a publick Exchange the Souldier at his Post may find it necessary to send from their hearts many ejaculatory prayers in the posture they are in without contempt of God tho' they could alter their posture knowing they might have moe than one of these short usual prayers before they could get the posture of their bodies altered and fitted for external adoration so that the Author should have better cautioned his censures Page 107. 108. Are only proofs that bodily worship is due and therefore no answer necessary seing we are as much for it as the Author in the season God requireth it but in this last Page he giveth instance of bodily worship from devils our Saviour looked on this bodily worship to be so indispensably his due that he accepted of it from the very Devils Mark 3. 11. And unclean spirits when they saw him fell down before him and cried thou art the son of God Ans The Author is proving the duty of bodily worship and how Devils who are spirits can perform bodily worship I know not seing they have no bodies but what they assume or possess It 's certainly the duty of Angels good and bad to Adore the Son of God but an example from their manner of worship to bodily worship is not rational when we seek examples of that which is to be performed bodily we must seek it from such as have bodies and Devils possessing bodies are but miserable examples and to say the worship of Devils was accepted by Christ is a piece of new Divinity for accepting a performance imports approbation approbation of an Act imports it's conformity to the Rule God hath prescribed how then any actions of Devils can be accepted approved and conformed to the rule given by God whatever that rule was let the Author make out Christ came to destroy their works this should the rather be observed because of what the Author sayeth Page 110th But bending or bowing of the body is that which is properly in Scripture called worship as signifying immediatly and naturally the bending and submission of our Souls and nothing else How the external worshiping of Devils will naturally signifie the submission of the minds in Devils who hate Christ and his Dominion let the Author see to it I shall have occasion for farther Reflection on this hereafter and so pass it now and that our Saviour accepted their service is against the Text for he rejected it not liking such preachers withal it 's most probable these Devils designed a publick affront to our Saviour in giving him a testimony as his friends that so Christs malicious enemies might have their blasphemy fortified that he did cast out Devils by the prince of Devils as followeth in the same Chap. verse 22. by the prince c. Page 110. If we look into the Scriptures we shall not find praying praising c. Termed worship they are indeed duties which we ought to perform to the honour of God but not immediat direct Acts of worship properly so called and in a few lines after praises immediatly signifie the sense we have of Gods Excellencies Ans Why then did the Author in his distribution of worship into its parts set down praises in the front as the primary worship if it be not a direct Act of worship 2ly Praise is more then a sense of Gods Excellencies having Emanant Acts towards God the object and is not only a Religious impression 3ly With the Author 's good leave the Scriptures speak very properly and there we find praising and glorifying God allowed the name of worship Psal 86. 9. All Nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee O Lord and shall glorifie thy Name Praise is the most direct and immediate glorifying of God and the most proper Act of Adoration Psal 66. 4. All the Earth shall worship thee and shall sing unto thee they shall sing to thy Name Ibid. But bending or bowing the body is that which is properly in Scripture called worship See this
good and wise men declare it to be the safest and best or that you have long professed it but see with your own eyes give it heart and time when no mortal eye can be witness as you have a value for these immortal substances that are yet breathing in your bodies for the retaining whereof you have no price to give and for the annihilation whereof you have no price to give but must endure an eternity whether we will or not what can we think of but is a very trifle when this eternity and what concerneth it is considered The necessity therefore of establishment in that religion which the eternal God hath appointed as the way to lead us to a blessed Eternity is great if we consider First the innat Atheism of our depraved natures whereby there is not only a privation of that primaeve knowledge God honoured man with but many perverse and erroneous apprehensions of God of happiness in him and the way to it Atheistical doubts concerning God Christ Heaven and Eternity These seeds of Atheism not only lurk undiscerned by many but often make horrid eruptions shaking yea overturning all the religion some have professed for many years because they have made it no part of their religion to be fixed in it then they are ready to cry out is there a God is there a Christ is there an Eternity can there be a Resurrection is there a Heaven or Hell Yet some are tormented with the fears of that the very being whereof they doubt orhers again forsaken of God speak blasphemously of the God of Heaven avow Atheism and tempt others to it while people are not established and their house never built on the rock they are obnoxious ro the worst of these Wo's nor hath religion power upon their Souls not knowing whether it be true or false many living as unconcerned with the religion they profess as if they had none being uncertain but all may prove otherwayes in the end and this uncertainty is an argument in reserve that the Devil improveth against seriousnes in religion labour therefore to have your feet fix'd on the rock that cannot sink under you that so your goings may be established knowing in whom ye have believed And that you may be established believe the Scriptures to be the very word of God the Scripture of Truth that cannot be broken trust fully the testimony and Veracity of God for if you fluctuate and waver in this every wind of temptation will be ready to shâ—ke you at the very Root and build what you will all will be overturned if this foundation be not firmly laid that all Scripture is by Divine inspiration And because I had known many poor Souls oppressed with temptations to doubt of all that is wâ—itten their hope and comfort burn'd up and almost consumed with such fiery darts before they would utter them to any and some such at this day fainting under such suggestions as they are ashamed to make known to their dearest Friends for the establishment and help of such to believe the Scripture of Truth First observe what you have by nature of the Image of God yet remaining what awfull indelible impressions you have of a God over you which you cannot shake fully off it 's written on your heart that there is a God that he is infinitely great and Omnipotent that he is just Holy wise and good now that which you yet find written on your heart you find the same in the written word of God whether would you go What can you betake your selves to but to the Testimony of God written both in your hearts and in the word of God revealed to us If you should reject the Scriptures you reject also the witness of God in your Souls this meditation God hath made very conducive for quieting and fixing some Souls Consider also that what the word of God publisheth of the depravation of our nature you find even as it 's written natural enmity against God which inclineth us if we could to hide our selves from him as Adam to say depart from us for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways we are informed by the word of God that the heart is deceitful above all things that every imagination of the thoughts of our heart are only evil continually that we rebell and are disobedient to God that we are slow of heart to believe and bent to backsliding c. All these things and many moe we find by nature and wofull experience What is predicted and promised in the word of God concerning the salvation of sinners by a Redeemer his death Resurrection conquest and Kingdom c. Are exactly found as the written word of God hath revealed them what God hath promised of pouring out his Spirit in the latter days is found as it 's written the power of God still appearing in converting sinners making many new creatures and all things new with them making them love what they hated and hate what they loved making a warfare against sin daily where sin was committed with greediness c. This Sanctifying grace of the Spirit is a continued witness multitudes of miracles both under Old and New Testaments were wrought for confirmation of Gods Holy Word and promise which without violence to our very reason cannot be denied either to be wrought or the finger of God being wrought these are blessed helps which our merciful God hath provided for confirming unstable Souls and to secure us that the Scriptures are the word of God our maker and judge and above all to depend on the Spirit of Christ which leadeth into all Truth When God in his mercy hath determined and fixed your judgements that the Scriptures are Gods word and Truth so as you can with confidence adventure Soul and Eternity according to the doctrine there delivered then make choise of the Truth receive it in love and gratitude blessing God for so great a benefit that many millions of Souls are deprived of be diligent in reading of it labouring and praying to understand it make Gods Testimonies the men of your counsel let it dwell richly in you seek the law of God written in your hearts sell not the Truth at any rate be not ashamed of any of his words lest he be ashamed of you let no flatteries or threats of men make you wander from the commandments of your God Search out especially for the great Salvation recorded in the word of God and published by a Gospel Ministry search until you find the sent Saviour of the world accept of him subject and devout your selves to him joyn and give your own selves to the Lord do this personally distinctly and deliberatly and leave it no longer as a duty you hope will be done but while it 's called to day allow it heart and time as the most enriching work you ever were or shall be about under the Sun blessing God that he allows and requires to subscribe our selves the Lords and to
AN ANSWER To a late BOOK Intituled a Discourse Concerning the Inventions of Men in the Worship of GOD. By William Lord Bishop of Derry WHEREIN The Author's Arguments against the Manner of Publick Worship performed by Protestant Dissenters are Examined and by plain Scripture and Reason Confuted his Mistakes as to matters of Fact Detected And some Important Truths concerning the Spirit of Prayer and External Adoration c. Vindicated By ROBERT CRAGHEAD Minister of the Gospel Job 17.9 The righteous also shall hold on his way and he that hath clean hands shall be stronger and stronger Jer. 15.19 Let them return unto thee but return not thou unto them Jer. 30.2 I will give them one heart and one way Edinburgh Printed by the Heirs of Andrew Anderson Printer to Their most Excellent Majesties Anno Dom. 1694. TO the Right VVorshipful the MAJOR the ALDERMEN and BVRGESSES of the City of LONDON DERRY and of the Presbyterian perswasion THese Animadversions on the Bishop's Book are Dedicated to your Service the Author and his Labours being yours by Right Tho' this piece of Service be extorted having no apprehension of appearing in this manner had it not been the vindication of Truth the undeceiving of strangers and your uneasiness to find our manner of Worship exposed vilified and represented to the World as pure humane Invention and therefore nothing but Will-worship and yet worse being made as black as Heathens denying due Adoration to God and casting his Word out of our Assemblies a rare notion that all the polite Masters of most exuberant Invention had never the brow to brand our perswasion with before this Author appeared who will be singular And since we are now set out to the world as worse than the most degenerated and barbarous people that ever called themselves Christians and thereby a Clothing of wild Beasts forced on us as on many primitive Christians to inrage their Devourers it s presumed none can offend if by a just Vindication we strip our selves of this covering that the World may see we are no Savages However this may appear impar congressus as not standing on even ground with the Bishop yet Truth being on our side and he the first Aggressor there 's no fear but the God of Truth will throughly plead his own Cause Therefore lest by the Author 's bare naming of many Scriptures whether pertinent to this purpose or not any should be seduced or vainly think his Book cannot be answered by any of us who are arraigned and provocked or that we are haters of Light and unwilling our deeds should be made manifest whether wrought in God or not or that we are ashamed of our manner of Worship or that we have not the confidence to convince gainsayers and so suffer Truth to be betrayed by unreasonable silence and lest that strangers or our succeeding Posterity should be impressed with Calumnies for Truths tho I be the very weakest of my Brethren yet being in some special manner concerned in this place and a Book sent me by the Author am willing to try the strength of his Arguments trusting that God will appear to make the issue and result of this Debate conducive to the further strengthning and establishment of many fearers of God who desire to live and die in the Old Good Paths and therein to find rest to their Souls Yet I do freely declare to you my Worthy and Beloved Friends that the constraint of putting such a Book into your hands on so mean a subject ministreth to me some melancholy reflections for if ever any of my poor Labours had been worth your notice after I had finished my course it would been more comfortable to me if the subject had engaged a Discourse of things more profitable spiritual than meer Jejune forms knowing the people of London derry being as a Firebrand pluckt out of the fire stand in need of more suitable entertainment how to make due returns of gratitude for so signal deliverance than to be treated with a Dispute of Forms so remote from the power of Godliness and the present due sense of Works of Wonder done for this people which we are apt sinfully to forget tho peremptorly required to take heed lest we forget the things which our eyes have seen lest they depart from our heart all the days of our life but to teach them to our sons and sons sons God hath much to require of Derry more than other places in point of Gratitude August epist ad Marcell speaking of gratitude piously saith what better thing can we bear in our mind express with our lips record with our Pen hear more joyfully consider with greater pleasure or what better fruit can we bear than gratitude It cannot therefore be unseasonable to put you in mind of these things tho' ye know them or to improve this occasion for the help of others hereafter to retain a due impression and regard to the great Works of God there being no people in these Kingdoms whoever had more special and immediat appearing of Soveraign Dominion Wisdom and Mercy than this City if it be considered That after vast numbers of people were frighted into it as a place of refuge not knowing of one another nor what they should do when within these Walls having no Ruler but God alone as of different perswasions so of different sentiments many consulting a Surrender on Terms as most rational some few resolved against it of which I was an Eye Witness many secret enemies within corresponding with those without a potent Army under good Conduct closs about the City Streets Lanes and Walls often as in Fire with multitude of Bombs and many killed in Houses provisions failing and Soldiers almost starved yet sallying out waxed valiant in Fight when their Enemies strong and full found not their hands but fainted in the day of Battel when not only mens bodies were faint and sick with Famine but hope of relief being deferred made their hearts sick also yet when weakest were animated to that heroick resolve to put a period to their own miseries and perpetuat their loyalty by fighting to death when they could stay no longer within these Walls rather than yield I know of one fainting man who said within these three days we must either surrender or be dead men by famine but was smartly taken up by others replying he was not worthy to live who spoke it and while there was Dog or Cat in Derry yet remaining there should be no surrender and further told him you shall eat that Hat on your Head ere we yield At this time the City was all over Deaths and Corps and rare to see a Mourner for the nearest Relation when buried many fainting on the Streets for want of the Fruits of the Earth the City then appearing for no other use but to be a common Sepulchre to them all nothing remain'd but hope against hope only by the good Providence of God there were many Godly praying
did eat or not for they are the words of the Holy Ghost 2ly Nor is it to be conceived that they continued eating while he was blessing this would been altogether unaccountable 3ly Tho' not eating yet they continued sitting in a Table posture for we must not add to the Text and say they arose 4ly How much time interveen'd between his taking the bread and blessing who can tell the ensuing Action being so solemn no doubt Christ would take care to have his disciples minds in some due composure for it 5ly That which the Author cannot digest is that the Apostles should be sitting when Christ was blessing but there is no cause why this should be so surprizing if some other of our Saviours ptactices be duely pondered as Mat. 14. 19. when there is a great miracle to be wrought Christ commandeth the multitude to sit down and then blesseth and he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass and took the five loaves and the two fishes and looking up to Heaven he blessed and brake and this not once but again Mat. 15. 35. And he Commanded the multitude to sit down on the ground and he took the seven loaves and the fishes and gave thanks and brake c. In both these scriptures there is most solemn worship and yet the people commanded to sit down it were worse than trifling to say they might rise again when Christ gave thanks seing he commanded them to sit down therefore the Author's anxitie for this is groundless and no use for such shifts as in probabilitie it was done in a thanksgiving and praying posture And as in the next Page 126. And so he might rise to bless and distribute the Holy Sacrament These may be 's are not convincing but the plain words of so many Texts for sitting are most cogent and irrefragable Page 126. Lastly we find the Apostle severly reproving the Corinthians for their irreverence in receiving this Sacrament c. Ans They are severly reproved it's granted but not for sitting at the Lords Supper and except the reproofs reach this the Author can find no argument from that Scripture what a torment is it to be managing a bad cause I need not say a man hath need of clear eyes that can see an argument in that Scripture but he must put out his own eyes and implicitly believe Dictates in place of arguments And what Reader will not be surprized at the reading of his following discourse wherewith he concluds this Section Upon the whole I think we do nothing in this or any other sacred action as to bodily Worship but what is warranded and grounded on the holy Scriptures and particularly as to what we do at the holy Sacrament of the Lords Supper Ans All is even as firmly warranded as the judicious Reader will observe by the Authors Arguments men are readily perswaded as they affect but there is no danger of the Readers being argumented unto kneeling at the Lords Table by any thing that yet hath occurred SECT 3. PAge 127. And first as to your principles I need not tell you that you do not allow Bodily Adoration to be any part of Gods Worship Ans That we do not allow Bodily Adoration is a known injurious imputation Hath not the Author himself from his infancy seen his Friends bowing their knees daily to God Doth he not know of thousands about him at this day who do the like Is not this bodily Adoration doth he not know that in our publick Worship our people commonly stand in time of Prayer and are exhorted so to do and except in case of bodily infirmity ordinarly practise it as also signs of external reverence always in our songs of praises to God and when we hear the Word of God read to us as part of his Worship all are uncovered With what truth then can it be asserted we do not allow of bodily worship Page 128. Your Directory doth not only leave it out but excludes it by requiring all to enter the Assembly and to take their seats and places without adoration or bowing Ans Tho the words of the Directory be not fairly represented yet as the Author quoteth them I will espouse them and let the Author try his strength in answering my Arguments against religious bowing to any place or fabrick on Earth Ibid The Scriptures say O come let us worship let us bow down let us kneel before the Lord our Maker Ans Who denyeth this the Author can instance none of our perswasion who doth not practise kneeling before God if some Physical impediments do not obstruct it 2ly The Command Let us worship and bow is not when we come first to the Walls of a House but when we engage in acts of Worship then either to kneel or stand as conveniency will allow but this hath been cleared already and I am not fond of repeating and therefore must pass over much of what remaineth of this Chapter as being generally answered already Page 129. You sit generally at your publick Prayers This also hath been confuted already and all that is said Page 130. For the time of Thanksgiving before Receving being solemn Prayer our people generally stand excepting such as are set down at Table who continue sitting as at the first giving of Thanks by our Saviour they did sit But the Author in this Page 130 engageth himself in another useless labour of Collecting pretences against Bodily Worship and exposing of Dissenters as formers of these pretences which we solemnly detest as contrary to our common practice such Discourse might have been directed to Atheists and Quakers but to impress strangers so invidiously against all protestant Dissenters as enemies to the Adoration of God by any visible sign is most injurious 2ly In all the following Discourse to the end of this Chapter the Reader is egregiously imposed on the Author making no distinction between the Bodily Worship commanded of God and the Bodily Worship commanded only by men and so condemneth all as despisers of the Glory of God who will not bow down to Houses or Altars and would have his Reader take it for granted that its our principle to be against all external Adoration of God for no other reason but because we observe the second Command better than some of our Neighbours rendring that homage to Creatures which is only due to God wherein we cannot and by the grace of God will not comply with them Pages 130 131 132 133 134 Have nothing but a Confutation of pretences from Joh 4. 24. God is a Spirit and they that Worship him must worship him in Spirit and truth Ans Christ by this Scripture doth recommend and prefer Spiritual Worship to that which is only bodily God being a Spirit and all bodily worship separat from this is naught the external part is easie and separable from the internal and of it self is but bodily exercise that profiteth little nevertheless we constantly assert it our duty to glorifie
when God giveth opportunity 2ly This opportune season for publick edification we are willing to attend but then prefixed times especially long before celebration may prove no opportunity many things may and often do emerge making it not convenient for the publick good to observe these prefixed times and that Ministers and other Church Governours should determine the time as the edification of each Congregation requireth is convenient and necessary But Ibid. saith the Author By which rule the Lords Supper is excluded from being any ordinary constant part of Gods service Ans The Author cannot prove that this celebration ought to be a constant part of Gods service the many Scriptures I have already quoted testifie the contrary I perceive the Author preferreth the Popish way of constant consecration every Lords Day to his own way and ours for he saith Page 160. And truly in this point you seem more unexcusable than the Papists themselves for the Papists order the Elements to be consecrated every Lords Day and distributed to those that desire it but your Teachers neither offer it to the people nor invite them to it nay so far are they from it that they do not so much as afford an opportunity to those that desire to be constant receivers And he hath said already Page 159. That they themselves are too far short of the primitive practice and institution but the Popish Priests follow it in consecrating every Lords Day Ans As for the Authors preferring the manner of Popish Priests to our way is no surprisal to us seing he was pleased to yield them ample room in the Communion of the Catholick Church when he thrust us out at one blow 2ly He saith the popish Priests distribute the Elements in the plural number to those that desire it If it be so it s a new thing we heard not of that they distribute the Cup to those that desire it for they say plainly tho Christ distributed the Cup yet they see it not fit However we must be worse than Papists do what they will yea worse than the most degenerated or barbarous people that ever called themselves Christians This is the Authors spirit of meekness that he said would give no just offence Page 161. They rarely press their people to communicat Ans We do press them to communicat but much more to examine themselves that they may be prepared for it Ibid They have few Sermons or Discourses to that purpose Ans This is a matter of Fact also and hard to answer without irritation I love not to be using words of evil manners only I cannot but say it 's not a truth as many hundreds of witnesses can Testifie Ibid No body can certainly tell what frequently many often or convenient signifie And therefore where only these words are used in a Rule it 's little better than to have no Rule at all as appears in this very case Ans The Scripture useth these words as often and is this little betten then no Rule at all This must be dangerous treating of the word of God 2. These same words as often tho' they be few yet are much better than no Rule at all and have been very useful to the whole Church of God and encouraged many Souls to endeavour frequency of receiving because the word of God mentioneth often tho' no not how often Ibid. I appeal to you whether it is not yet reckoned a great thing among many of you if once in a year or two a Communion be celebrated in one of your meetings nay among some of you it 's often ommited for several years together and in some places for ten or more Ans This is also matter of Fact and a great mistake for we account it no great thing to have it every year and some of us have it oftner and some of our Communion have it much oftner than once or twice a year as God giveth them opportunity and all of us would be glad of conveniency for having it more frequently But let the Reader understand that we judge it not warrantable to admit persons to the Lords Table because they have in their memory and can say over the belief the Lords prayer and Ten Commandments which a Child or an Athiest may have in readiness to repeat But Stewards of the Mysteries of God who must not cast Pearls before Swine tho' they judge not of mens hearts leaving that to God whose Prerogative it is yet must have some satisfying account of a competent measure of knowledge in partakers and must take care to know they are able to discern the Lords Body as likewise that they have some knowledge of the Covenant of Grace the Sacrament being a Seal thereof and besides their knowledge which this is but a taste of lest Ministers be partakers of other mens sins by profaning the Holy Sacrament they must also take care that such be not admitted whose practice doth contradict their profession of Christianity As also sometimes Ministers must take time to support the weak dejected by their own fears and doubts and to encourage them as occasion serveth to approach the Lords Table so also to have any Animosities or contentions composed and healed that may be found amongst the people before they receive And if at any time so extraordinary a thing fall out that some Congregations be deprived of that Sacrament many years as this is altogether extaordinary so there will be found some extraordinary reason for it but I know not of one instance in the North of Ireland where any Congregation of our Communion wanted that Ordinance for Ten years I love not confident unwarrantable assertions but I say if any such thing be it will be found that these Congregations have either wanted Ministers of our Communion or somewhat altogether extraordinary is the cause and no Church or Society should be judged by extraordinaries Page 162. A man may live comfortably amongst you to the Age of 30. or 40. Years and never receive and I could not compute that one in ten going to your meetings ever receive through the whole course of their lives Ans Blessed be God we can make it appear that not one of ten come to Age of our Communion but have received already with us which our Examination Rules can instruct and hundreds of witnesses testifie 2ly No man of our Communion come to the Age of 30. or 40. Years but is particularly noticed if he do not receive but where Scandalous Immoralities are found if he were 50. or 60. Years of Age such will not be admitted with us heartily wishing our Neighbours to take the like care To the Dissenting Ministers of Derry PAge 170 But as to you my brethren that disown my Communion and authority I have reason to fear that what I shall offer to you may receive some prejudices from my station and Character yet reason is reason from whomsoever it proceeds and I only desire that you would weigh seriously what I have