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A09618 The examinacion of the constaunt martir of Christ, Ioh[a]n Philpot arch diacon of Winchestre at sondry seasons in the tyme of his sore emprisonment, conuented and banted, as in these particular tragedies folowyng, it maye (not only to the christen instruction, but also to the mery recreacion of the indifferent reader) most manifestly appeare. Reade fyrst and than iudge. Philpot, John, 1516-1555. 1556 (1556) STC 19892; ESTC S100457 120,727 301

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father he be one And none in the spirite of God can deuide Christ frō the substaunce of God the father onles a natural sonne may be of an other substaūce than his father which nature dothe abhorre Who can abyde the eternall generacion of the sonne of God to be denied synce it is written of him his generacion who shal be able to declare Esa 53. Is ther any true christiā hart that grudged not at suche faythles blasphemours Can the eye eare tongue or the other senses of the body be cōtent to heare their creatour blasphemed not repyned should not the mouth declare the zeale of his maker by spittyng on him that depraueth his diuine maiestie which was is and shal be God for euer Apoc. 3. Yf God as it is mencioned in the Apocalipse wil spew ypocrites out of his mouthe suche as he neither hotte nor colde in his worde why maye not than a man of God spitte on hym that is worsse than an hipocrite enemye to the godhead manifested in the blessed Trinitie which wil in no wyse be persuaded to the cōtrarie Iohan. 2. Yf Christ with a whippe droue out the of temple suche as were prophaners therof ought not the seruaūt of God by some lyke outwarde significacion reproue the villanie of those as go about to take awaye the glorie of him that was the buylder of the tēple Yf there were as muche zeale in men of the truth as there is talkatiue knowlege they would neuer be offended with that which is done in the reproche and cōdemnacion of frowarde vngodlye men whome nothing can please but singularities and diuisions from the churche of Christ which ought to be the mother and mystres of vs al to leade vs Gala. 4. into al true knowledge of the worde of God and not ymagine by ignoraūce takyng the word of God dayly an other Gospel and an other Christ as euery sect dothe separating thē selues frō Christes spouse which is the same that is the accōplishement of truthe Ephe. 1. hitherto neuer knewe O insatiable curiositie O arrogaunt selfe loue the original of al these heresies O pestilent canker of thyne owne saluacion O Arrian the ryght inheritour to Lucifer Esay 14. that would exalte his seate and be lyke to the hyghest whose fal shal be lyke where the synne is equal Yf God dyd hyghly allowe the minister of Ephesus Apoca. 2. for that he could in no wise abyde such as said they were Apostles and were not indede howe maye any laye vncharitablenes vnto me which for the loue of my swete Christ do abhorre al phantastical Arrians in suche sorte as al men ought to do that loue the sonne of God vnfaynedly Yf Moses be cōmended by the scriptures Act. 8. for strykyng an Egiptian that dyd iniurie to one of the people of God howe may he iustly be blamed which dyd spit at him that doth suche iniurie and sacrilege to the sonne of God as to plucke him from his eternal and propre godhead was there euer creature so vnkynde was there euer man so temerarious to stryue against the glory of his glorifier was there euer heretike so bolde and impudent as the Arrian is that durst take frō the sōne of God the glorie which he had with the father frō the beginning Yf Christ be the beginning Apoca. 1. ending of all thing as he testifyeth him self to S. Iohn how may he be but a creature like vnto others who may dissemble such blasphemy that hath any sparke of the spirite of God who may heare with patience the right wayes of the Lorde peruerted by these deuilishe holi Arriās hold his peace A lyuely fayth is not dōme but is alwayes ready to resist the gainesayers as Dauid sayth I haue beleued therfore I haue spoken Speake than you that haue tonges to prayse confesse against these Arriās exalte your voice lyke a trompet that the simple people maye beware of their Pharisaical venome and be not deceaued as now many are vnwares of simplicitie Suffre them not to passe by you vnpointed at yea yf they be so stonte that they will not ceasse to speake against God our saueour and Christ as they are al newe baptised enemies therto refraine not to spit at suche inordidate swyne as are not ashamed to tread vnder their fete the precious godhead of our saueour Iesus Christ Our God is a gelous God and requireth vs to be zelous in his cause Yf we can not abyde our owne name to be euel spoken of without great indignacion shall we be quiet to heare the name of our God defaced and not declare any signe of wrath against thē It is writtē be angry and synne not A man than maye shewe tokens of angre in a cause which he ought to defende without breache of charitie The prophet Dauid sayeth shal I not hate them O Lorde that hate thee Psal 138. vpon thyne ennemyes shall I not be wrathful I wil hate them with a perfect hatred they are become myne enemyes Aaron bycause he was not more zelous in goddes cause whan he perceiued the people bent to ydolatry entred not into the lande of promyse God loueth not luke warme souidiars in the batel of fayth but suche as be earnest and violent shall inherite his kyngdome Therfore S. Paule biddeth vs to be feruent in spirit you that are to colde in these dayes of the cōntet of the gospel aswel against these arch heretiks as others wherof there be at these daies stered vp by the Deuill an infinite swarme to the ouerthrow of the gospell if it were possible I exhort you not to iudge that euil which God highlie commedeth But rather to pray that God will geue you the lyke zeale to withstande the enemies of the gospel neyther to haue any maner of felowship with these Antichristes whom the deuil hathe shitten out in these dayes to defyle the Gospel which go aboute to teache you any other doctrine The gospel pure in K. Edw. dayes than you haue receyued in kyng Edwardes dayes in the whiche praysed be God al the synceritie of the gospel was reuealed according to the pure vse of the primatiue church and as it is at this present of the trew catholike church allowed through the worlde The spirite of God the holye Goost the thirde persone in Trinitie whom these wicked Arrians do elude and mocke hath taught the church according to Christes promise al truth and shal we nowe receyue an other vaine spirite whome the holy fathers neuer knewe Trye the spirites of mē by goddes worde and by the interpretacion of the primatiue churche who had promyse of Christ to receyue by the cōming of the holy goost the true vnderstanding of al that he had spokē and taught after the which we haue ben truely taught to beleue three persones in one deitie God the father frō whom and God the sonne by whom God the holy Goost in whō al
do as you do Phil. No my lorde I do not as I do for that cause For I am taught otherwyse by the Gospel not altogether to refuse the minister for his euell lyuyng so that he bryng sounde doctrine out of Goddes boke worce Do you thinke that the vniuersal churche may be deceyued Phil. S. Paule to the Thessalonians prophecied that ther should come an vniuersall departing from the fayth in the latter dayes before the comming of Christ sayeng Non veniet Christus nisi venerit defectio prius That is Christ shall not come tyl ther come a departing fyrst Cole Yea I pray you howe take you the departyng there in S. Paul It is not ment of fayth but of the departing from the empyre For it is in Greke Apostasia Phil. Mary in dede you M. Doctour put me in good remembraunce of the meanyng of saynt Paule in that place For Apostasia is properlye a departyng from the faythe and therof commeth Apostata whiche properlye sygnyfyeth one that departeth from his fayth And saynt Paule in the same place after speaketh of the decaye of the Empire Cole Apostasia doth not only signifie a departing from the fayth but also frō the Empyre as I am hable to shewe phil I neuer red it so taken and when you shal be hable to shewe it as you saye in wordes I wil beleue it and not before morc I am sorye that you should be agaynst the christen world phil The worlde cōmonly and such as be called christians for the multitude hathe hated the truth and ben enemyes to the same Gloue Why maister Philpot do you thynke that the vniuersall churche hathe erred and you only to be in the truthe phil The churche that you are of was neuer vniuersal For two partes of the worlde which is Asia and Affrica neuer consented to the supremacie of the bishop of Rome as at this daye they do not neither do folowe his decrees Gloce. Yes in Florentines coūsel they did agree phil It was sayd so by false reporte after they of Asia and Affrica were gone home But it was not so in dede as the sequel of them al hitherto doth proue the contrarye Gloce. I praye you by whom wyl you be iudged in matters of controuersie which happen dayly phil By the worde of God For Christ sayeth in S Iohn̄ the worde that he spake shal be iudge in the later daye Gloc. What yf you take the worde one waye and I an other waye who shal be iudge then phil The primatiue Churche Gloc. I knowe you meane the doctours that wrote therof Phil. I meane verely so Gloc. What yf you take the doctours in one sence and I in an other who shal be iudge then Phil. Then let that be taken which is most agreable to Goddes worde Cole My lordes why do you trouble your selues to answer him in this mater it is not the thing which is layd to his charge but his errour of the sacrament and he to shyfte him selfe of that brought in an other matter Phil. This is the mater maister Cole to the which I haue referred al other questions and desire to be satisfyed worce It is wonder to se howe he stādeth with a fewe against a great multitude Phil. We haue almost as many as you For we haue Asya Affryca Germany Denmarke and a great part of Fraunce and daylye the nombre of the Gospel dothe increase so that I am credibly informed that for this religion in the which I stād and for that which I am like to diē a great multytude dothe daily com out of Fraūce through persecucion that the cities of Germanie be scarse hable to receaue them And therfore your lordship may be sure the worde of God wil one day take place So what you can to the contrarie worcest They were wel occupied to bring you suche newes and you haue ben well kept to haue suche resort vnto you thou art the arrogauntest and stoutest fond felowe that euer I knewe Phil. I pray your lordshipe to beare with my hastye speache for it is parte of my corrupte nature to speake somwhat hastly But for all that I meane with humilitie to do my dewty to your lordships London Master Philpot my lordes wil troble you no further at this tyme But you shall goo from whence you cam and haue suche fauour as in the meane while I can shew you and vpon wednesdaye next you shal be called agayne to be heard what you cā say for the mayntenaunce of your error Phil. My lord my desire is to be satisfied of you in that I haue required and your lordship shall fynde me as I haue said worcest We wyshe you as well as our selues Phil. I thinke the same my lordes but I feare you are deaceuyd and haue a zeale of your selues not according to knowledge worcest God send you more grace Phil. And also God increase the same in you open your eyes Nay God ryd his shepe from such wolues that you maie se to maintaine his truthe and his true church Than the bishopes rose vp and cōsulted together and caused a writing to be made In the which I thinke my bloude by them was bought and sold and therto they put to theyr handes and after this I was caryed to my cole howse agayne Thus endeth the fourth parte of this tragedye God hasten the ende therof to his glorye Amen BEcause I haue begonne to write vnto you of myne examinacions before the B. other more to satisfie your desire than it is any thing worthy to be written I haue thought yt good to write vnto you also that which hath ben of late that the same myght come to light which they do in darkenes priuy corners and that the world nowe the posteritie herafter might knowe howe vnorderlye vniustlye and vnlearnedlye these rauening wolues do procede agaynst the selye and faithful flocke of Christ and condēpne and persecute the syncere doctrine of Christ in vs which they are not hable by honest meanes to resyst but only by tyrannie and violence The examinacion of Iohn Philpot had before the bishoppes of Lōdon Rochester Couētre S. Asses I trow one other whose seas I know not Doctor storie Curtop D. Sauerson D. Pendletō with diuers other chaplaynes and gētlemen of the Quenes chamber with diuers other gentilmen in a galerye of my lord of Londons palace MAster Philpot come you hyther London I haue desired my lordes here other learned men to take som paynes once agayne and to do you good and because I do mynd to sit in iudgemēt on you to morowe as I am commaunded yet I would you should haue as muche fauour as I can shewe you yf you wil be any thing conformable Therfore plaie the wyse mā and be not singular in your opinion but be ruled by these learned men phil My lorde that you saye you will sit on me in iudgement to morowe I am glad therof For I was promised by them
Phil. Yes I haue sufficient scripture for the profe of that I haue sayd For the fyrst it is writtē of Christ in the psalmes Diminuisti cum Paulominus ab angelis Thou hast made hym a litel lesser then angelles It is the fyftē spalme begynning Celi enarrant And there I misrekened wherwithall my lorde toke me London It is in Domine Dominus noster Ye maye see my lordes how well this man is vsed to saye his matyns Phil. Though I say not matyns in suche order as your lordship meaneth yet I remember of olde that Domine Dominus noster Celi enarrant be not far a sūdre And albeit I misnamed the spalme it is no ꝓiudice to the truth of that I haue proued London What saye you then to the seconde scripture how couple you that by the worde to the other Phil. The text it selfe declareth that not withstāding Christ did abase hym selfe in our humain nature yet is he stil one in deitie with the father And this S. Paule to the Hebrues doth more at large set furthe And as I haue by the scriptures ioyned these two scriptures together so am I hable to do in al other articles of fayth which we ought to beleue by the manifest worde of God to expounde them London How can that be seyng S. Paule sayth that the letter kylleth but it is the spirit that gyueth life Phil. S Paule meaneth not that the worde of God written in it selfe kylleth which ys the word of lyfe and the faythful testimony of the Lorde But that the worde ys vnprofitable and kylleth him that is voyde of the spirite of God although he be the wysest man of the worlde And therfore S. Paule sayed that the gospel to some was a fauour of lyfe vnto lyfe and to some other a sauour of death vnto death Also an example herof we haue in the syxt of Iohn who hearing the worde of God without the spirite were offended therby Wherfore Christ sayd the fleshe profiteth nothing it is the spirite that quickneth London What do you vnderstād that of S. Paule and of S. Iohn so Phil. Yt is not myne owne interpretacion it is agreable to the worde in other places And I haue learned the same of aunciēt fathers interpreting it likewise And to the Corinthians it is written Animalis homo non percipit ea que sunt spiritus Dei Spiritualis dijudica● omnia The natural man perceyueth not the thinges that be of the spirite of God But the spiritual man which is indued with the spirite iudgeth al thinges London You se my lordes that this mā will haue but his owne minde and wil wilfully cast away him selfe I am sory for hym Phil. The wordes that I haue spoken be not of myne but of the gospel wheron I ought to stand And yf you my lorde of London can bring better auctoritie for the fayth you woulde drawe me vnto then that which I stande vpon I will gladlye heare the same by you or by any other in this realme Wherfore I kneling downe besought the lordes to be good vnto me a poore gentlemā that would fayne lyue in the world yf I might to testifie as you haue heard me to saye this daye that yf any man can approue that I ought to be of any other manner of fayth then that which I now am and can proue the same sufficientlye I wil be neither willfull neyther desperat as my lorde of london would make you beleue me to be Ryche What contreiman be you are you of me Phylpots of Hampshere Phil. Yea my lord I was syr Peter Philpots sonne of Hampshere Ryche He is my nere kinseman wherfore I am the more sorie for hym phil I thanke your lordship that it pleased you to chalenge kinred of a pore prisoner Ryche In faith I would go a hundreth miles on my bare fete to do you good Chamber He maye do wel ynough yf he list S. Iohn Master Philpot you are my contreiman and I would be glad you should do well Riche You sayd euen now that you would desyre to mayntayne your belef before ten of the best of this realme You did not wel to compare with the nobilitie of the realme But what yf you haue ten of the best of the realme to heare you wil you be tried by thē Phil. My lorde your lordship mistaketh me to thinke that I chalenge ten of the best of the nobilitie in this realme it was no part of my mynd But I ment of the best learned on the contrarie syde Ryche Wel I take your meanīg What yf meanes be made to the Quenes maiestie that you shall haue your request Wil you be iudged by them Phil. My lord it is not mete that a mā should be iudged by his aduersaries Ryche By whom then woulde you be iudged phil I will make your honors iudges that shal be hearers of vs. Ryche I dare be bould to procure for you of the Quenes maiestie that you shall haue ten learned men to reason with you and twentye or fourtie of the nobilitie to heare so you will ꝓmise to abide their iudgement How saye you wil you promise here afore my lordes so to do Phil. I wil be contented to be iudged by them Ryche Yea but you will not ꝓmise to agree to their iudgement Phil. There be causes whye I maye not so do onles I were sure they would iudge according to the worde of God Ryche O I perceyue you wil haue no man iudge but your selfe and thinke your selfe wyser then all the learned men of this realme phil My lorde I seke not to be myne owne iudge but am content to be iudged by other so that the ordre of iudgement in maters of religion be kepte that was in the primatiue churche whyche is fyrst that Goddes will by his worde was sought thervnto bothe the spiritualtie and temporaltye gathered together gaue their consents and iudgement And suche kynde of iudgement I wil stande to London My lordes he would make you beleue that he were profoundly sene in auncient writers of the iudgementes of the primatiue churche and ther was neuer no suche maner of iudgement vsed as he nowe talketh of Phil. In the epistles of S. Ciprian I am hable to shewe it you London A I tel you there is no suche thing fet me Cyprian hither Phil. You shal fynde it otherwyse when the boke commeth And doctor Chadsey his chapleyne whome he appointed to fet his boke whistered the bishop in his eare and fet not the boke by lyklyhode that he should haue susteyned the reproche therof yf the boke had ben fette Wel my lorde ꝙ I maister doctor knoweth it is so or elles he would haue fet the boke ere this Ryche You would haue non other iudge I see but the worde Phil. Yeas my lorde I wyl be tried by the worde and by suche as wil iudge according to the worde As for an exāple yf ther were a controuersy betwyxt your lordship and an
the B. calling for .ij. chaires placed by him sayeng M. sherif I would you should vnderstād how I do ꝓcede against this man M. sherif you shal hear what articles this mā doth maītaine And so he red a rablemēt of fayned articles that I should denye baptisme to be necessarie to them the were borne of christiā persōs That I denied fasting praier al other good dedes And that I maintained only bare faith to be sufficient to saluaciō what so euer a man dyd besydes And I maintained God to be the author of al synne and wyckednes be fayne to imagine these blasphemous lyes against me you might as wel haue sayd I had killed your father the scriptures say that God will destroy all them that speake lyes And is not your lordship ashamed to say before this worshipfull gentyll man who is vnknowen vnto me that I mayntayne these abominable blasphemies which you haue rehearsed which yf I did mayntayne I were wel worthy to be counted an heretike and to be burned an hundred tymes yf it were possible London I doo obiect them vnto thee to hear what thou wilt say in them howe thou canst purge thy selfe of them phil Then it was not iustly sayd in the beginning of your lordship that I did mayntayne them synce almost I hold none of al those articles you haue red in forme as they are written London How sayst thou wilt thou answere to them or no Phil. I will fyrst knowe you to be myn ordinarie and that you maye lawfully charge me with suche thinges than afterward being lawfully called in iudgement I wil shew my mind fully therof and not otherwise London well then I will make thy fellowes to be wytnes agaynst thē wher are they come Keper They be here my lord London Com hyther syrs hold them a boke you shal sweare by the cōtentes of that boke that you shall al maner of affections layd aparte say the truthe of al such articles as you shal be demaūded of concerning this man here present which is a very naughty man take you hede of him that he doth not deceyue you as I am afraid he doth you muche hurte and strengthe you in your errours Prisoners My lord we wil not swere excepte we know wherto we can not accuse him of no euil we haue ben but a whil acquaynted with him phil I wonder your lordship knowing the lawe wil go about contrary to the same to haue infamous persons to be witnesses for your lordship doth take them to be heretikes and by the lawe an heretike can not be a witnes London Yes one heretike agaynst an other may be witnes well ynough And master sherife I wil make one of them to be witnes against an other Phil. You haue the lawe in your owne hande and you wil do what you list My prison felowes No my lorde London No wil I wil make you sweare whither you wil or no. I wene they be Anabaptistes maister sherife they thynke it not lawful to swere before a iudge phil We thinke it lawfull to swere for a man iudicially called as we are not nowe but in a blynde comer London Why then seyng you wil not sweare against your felowe you shal sweare for your selfes and I do here in the presence of M. sheryf obiect the same articles vnto you as I haue don vnto him and do require you vnder the payne of excommunication to answere particulerly vnto euery one of thē when you shal be examined as you shal be by by examined after by my regester som of my chaplaines My lord Prisoners we will not accuse our selues If any man can lay any thing against vs we are here redy to make answere therto otherwyse we pray your lordship not to burden vs for some of vs are here before you we knowe no iust cause why London M. sherif I wil trouble you no lenger with these frowarde men And so he rose vp and was goyng awaye talkyng with maister sheryf Phil. Maister sheryf I pray you record howe my lorde procedeth against vs in corners without al order of lawe hauīg no iust cause to laye against vs And after this were all cōmaunded to be had awaye And I was commaunded to be put in the stockes where I sat frō mornyng vntyl nyght the keper at nyght vpon fauour let me out The sondaye after the Bishop came into the colehouse at nyght with the keper and viewed the house sayēg that he was neuer here afore wherby a mā may gesse how he hath kept Goddes cōmaundement in visiting the prisoners seing he was neuer with them that haue bene so nigh his nose And he cā not then for any good zeale but to viewe the place and thought it to good for me and therfore after supper betwene eyght and nyne he sent for me sayeng London SYr I haue great displeasure of the Quene and the counsel for keping you so long and for lettyng you haue so muche lybertie And besydes that you be yonder and strengthen the other prisoners in their errours as I haue layd wayt for your doynges and am certifyed of you wel ynough I wil sequester you therfore from them you shal hurt no mo as you haue done And I wil out of hāde dispatche you as I am cōmaunded onles you wil be a conformable man Phil. My lorde you haue my body in your custody you may transporte it whither it please you I am content And I would you would make as quicke expedition in my iudgement as you saye I long therfore and as for conformitie I am ready to yeld to al truthe yf any can bryng better then I. London Why you wil beleue no man but your selfe what so euer they saye phil My belefe must notheng vpō mēs sayenges wtout sure auctoritie of Goddes worde the which yf any body cā shew me I wil be pliāt to yt. Otherwise I cā not go frō my certain fayth to an vncertaine Lon. Haue you thē the truth only Phil. My lorde I wil speake my mynde fully vnto you vpon no malice I bear you before God You haue not the truth neither are you of the church of God But you persecute both the truthe the true church of God for that which cause you cā not prosper long You see God doth not prosper your doinges according to your exspectation he hath of late shewed his iuste iudgemēt against one of your greatest doers who by reporte dyed myserably Gardiner I enuye not your authoritie you are in You that haue learning should knowe best how to rule And seyng God hath restored you to your dignitie lyuing agayne vse the same to goddes glorie to the setting forth of his true religiō other wise it wil not cōtinue do what you cā London With this sayēg he was apaused and sayd at lenght that good man was punished for suche as thou arte Where is the keper come let him haue him to
impossible And there is many examples that baptisme may be singularly ministred to one person as we haue exāple in Christ baptised of Iohn̄ and in the Eunuche baptised of Philip with many mo suche lyke But so haue you not of the sacramēt of the body and bloud of Christ but cōtrary wyse by the expresse wordes of S. Paule you are cōmaunded to vse it in a cōmunion and participation of many together the xi to the Corin. Quoties conuenitis ad mandu candum alius alium expectate As ofte as you come together to eate meaning the Lordes supper tary one for an other And also the minister in the celebration of the sacrament speaketh vnto al that be present in Christes behalfe to cōmunicate with him sayeng take ye and eat ye Wherfore as many as be present not cōmunicate do breake goddes commaundemēt in not receauyng the same and the minister is no iust minister that dothe not distribute the sacrament as Christ dyd to al that are presēt where Goddes worde is transgressed there is not Christ present and consequently is no sacrament Harpsfelde What would you haue it no sacrament without it be a cōmunion phil I make it not so but Goddes expresse worde teacheth me so yea also all the auncient wryters As S. Chrisostōe wryting vpon the epistle to the Ephesians sayeth that the oblatiō is in vayne where as none doth communicat with the priest If by his iudgement the action of the priest alone is in vayne where is no communion howe can that be a sacramēt which he calleth a vayne oblatiō a vayne standing at the altare Cosins You are such an other felow as I haue not heard that will not haue the masse to be a sacrament you are no man for me to reason with all Come let vs goo poyntyng to the morow masse chaplayn we wil leaue you master archdiacon and him together And so they went away Afterward the archdiacon fell into earnest persuasions with me sayeng harpsfild Master Philpot you and I haue ben of old acquayntance a long tyme we were scolefelowes both in wynchester and in Oxforde many yeares wherfore I must wyshe you as well to do as my selfe and I praye you so thinke of me Phil. I thanke you for your good will towardes me but yf you be deceaued as I am sure you are I shall desyre you not to wyshe me deceaued with you For afore God I tell you playnely you are highly deceaued and mayntayne false religion and be not those men you take your selfes for And yf you do not repent leaue of your persecuting of christes trueth you wil go to the dyuell for it Therfore consyder it in tyme I gyue you warnyng for in the day of iudgement ells I shal be a wytnes agaynst you that I told you this here talkyng together Harpesfild Fye that is but your owne vayne syngular opinion I perceaue you are styll now that man you were in Oxforde Phil. I trust you can reporte no notorius euill that euer you knew by me there Harpsfeld I can saye no euill of your conuersacion but I knew you to be a studious man Mary if you remembre when we met in disputacion in paruis you wold not lyghtly gyue ouer and for that cause I speake that I haue sayd Phil. Master Harpesfeld you knowe in the scoles at Oxforde when we were yong men we dyd stryue moche vpon vayn glory and vpon contention more than for the trueth But nowe our yeares and our ryper learnyng teache vs to fal to a truthe which must be our portion for euer And yf I was then in my tyme of ignoraunce earnest in myne owne cause I ought now to be earnest in my maister Christes cause in his truth I know now that nothing done vpon vayne glorie and singularitie can please God haue it neuer so goodly a shewe Wherfore I praye you iudge not so of me nowe Harpfi What wil you thinke your selfe better learned then all the learned men in this realme Phil. My fayth hengeth not vpō the learned of the worlde but vpon the learned after Goddes worde Harpf. Wel I wil talke with you nomore as nowe but pray to god to opē your harte Phil. I pray God open both our hartes to do more his wil then we haue done in tymes past Harpf. Ho keper take him away with you Phil. I pray you M. Harpsfeld tel me what this pronowne Hoc doth demonstrate and shewe in this indicatiue proposition as you cal it Hoc est corpus meum This is my body Harpf. It dothe demonstrate the substaunce of bread which by the wordes spoken by the priest by the omnipotency of God is turned into the substaunce of Christes very body Phil. Is the substaunce of the bread as you saye turned into Christes bodye Harpf. Yea that it is phil Why then Christes body receaueth dayly a great increase of many thousād peces of bread into his bodye And that is his body become nowe which was not before and by this you would seme to make that ther is an alteracion in Christes glorifyed body which is a wicked thing to thinke Harpf. Then he fet about agayne and remembring better him selfe and seyng the inconuenience of his first assertion of the transubstantiacion of the bread into Christes bodye he sayd that the substaunce of bread after the wordes spoken by the priest was euacuated or vanished away by the omnipotency of God Phil. This is an other song thē you said fyrst And here you maye see howe contrary you ar to your selues For in dede your scole mē do holde that the verye substaunce of bread is really turned into the substaunce of Christes body And nowe you perceauing of late the inconuenience which is obiected agaīst you in the opinion of late you ar dryuē to imagin a new shyfte and say the substance of bread is euacuated contrary to that your churche hath fyrst beleued and taught O what contrarietie is ther among you and all to deface the syncere truth Harpesfild Is not God omnipotent cannot he do as he hath sayd Phil. But his omnipotency will not do as you say contrary to his word and to his honour it is not Goddes honour to include bodely in a pece of bread and of necessitie to tye him therto It is not Goddes honour for you to make a pece of bread God mā which you se before your face doth putrifie after a certen tyme. Is not Goddes omnipotency as hable to geue his body with the sacramental bread as to make so many turninges away of the bread as you doo And that directly against the scripture which calleth it bread many tymes after the cōsecraciō Are you not ashamed to make so many alteracions of the lordes holy institucion as you do And to take away the substanticall parts of the sacrament as take ye eate ye drinke ye all of this So ye this in remembraūce of me and to place in their steades heare ye
vpper hande And in the Apocalyps you may se it was prophesied that the true church should be dryuen into corners and into wyldernes and suffer great persecution Morgan A are you seen in the Apocalyps ther is many strange thinges phil If I tell you the trueth which you are not hable to refel beleue it and daly not out so earnest maters Me thinke you are liker a scoffer in a play Morgan ryghtly painted out than a reasonable doctor to instruct a man you are bare arced and daunse naked in a net and yet you se not your owne nakednes Morgan What I pray you be not so quicke with me Let vs talke a lytle more coldly together phil I will talke with you as myldly as you can desyre if you wil speake learnedly and charytably But yf you goo about with tauntes to delude the truthe I will not hyde it from you Morgan Why will you not submit your iudgement to the learned men of this realme phil Bycause I see they can bring no good ground wher vpon I may with a good conscience settle my faythe more suerly then on that which I am now grounded by Goddes manifest word Morgan No do that is maruel that so many learned men should be deceaued phil It is no maruel by S. Paule for he sayth that not many wyse neither many learned after the world be called to the knowlage of the gospel Morgan Haue you thē alone the spirit of God and not we phil I say not that I alone haue the spirit of God but as many as abide in the true faith of Christ haue the spirit of God aswell as I. Morgan Howe know you that you haue the spirit of God Phil. By the fayth of Christ which is in me Morgan A by faith do you so I wene it be the spirit of the butterye which your felowes haue had that haue ben burned before you who were dronke the night before they went to theyr death I wene went dronken vnto it Phil. It appeareth by your communicacion that you are better acquainted with the spirit of the buttrye then with the spirite of God wherfore I must nowe tell the thou paynted wall and hypocryte in the name of the lyuing Lord whose truth I haue told the that God shal rayne fyer and brymstone vpon suche scorners of his word and blasphemers of his people as thou art Morgan What you rage now Phil. Thy folishe blasphemies haue compelled the spirite of God which is in me to speake that which I haue said vnto the thou enemy of all righteousnes Morgan Why do you iudge me so phil By thyne owne wicked wordes I iudge of the thou blind and blasphemous doctor for as it is written by thy wordes thou shalt be iustified and by thy wordes thou shalt be condempned I haue spoken on Goddes behalfe now haue I done with the. Morgan Why then I tell the Philpot that thou arte an heretyke and shalt be burnt for thy heresy afterwards goo to hell fyer phil I tell the thou hypocryte that I passe not this for thy fyer and fagots nether I thanke God my lord stand in feare of the same my faythe in christ shall ouercom them But the hell fyer which thou thretnest to me is thy porcyon and is prepared for thee oneles thou spedely repent and for such hypocrites as thou art Morgan What you speake vpō wyne thou hast typled well to day by lykelyhode phil So fayd the cursed generation to the Apostles being replenished with the holy gost and speaking the wonderous workes of God they sayd they were dronke whē they had nothing els to say as thou doest nowe Morgan Why I am hable to answere the ywis I trowe phil So it semeth with blasphemies lyes Morgan Nay euen with learning say what thou canst philpot That appeared well at my disputacion in the conuocation house where thou tokest vpon thee to answere those few argumentes I was permitted to make and yet wast not hable to answere one but in thyne answeres dyddest fomble and wonder that the hole house was ashamed of thee And thy fynall conclusion of all thyne answers was that thou couldest answere me yf I were in the scoles at Oxforde Morgan What dyd I so thou belyest me Phil. I do not belye the the boke of the report of the disputation beareth record therto and all that were present can tel yf they list thou saydest so And I tel thee playne thou arte not hable to answer the spirite of truthe which speaketh in me for the defence of Christes true religion I am hable by the myght ther of to dryue thee rounde about this galarie before me And yf it would please the Quenes maiestie and her counsell to heare thee me I would make thee for shame shrynke behynde the dore Morgan Yea would you so lo phil Thou hast the spirite of illusion sophisirie which is not hable to counteruayle the spirite of truthe Thou arte but an Asse in the true vnderstanding of thinges pertaynyng vnto God I cal the asse not in respecte of malice but in that thou kickest agaynst the truthe art voyde of all godly vnderstandyng not hable to answere to that thou bragest in Morgan Why haue I not answered thee in al thinges thou hast sayd vnto me I take them to recorde Phil. Aske of my felow whether I be a these Cosins Hearke he maketh vs al theues phil You knowe the phrase of that Prouerbe that like wil holde with lyke And I am sure you wil not iudge with me against him speake I neuer so true And in this sense I speake it the strongest answer that he hath made agaynst me is that you wil burne me Morgan Why we do not burne you it is the temporal mē that burne you and not we phil Thus you would as Pylate dyd washe your hādes of al your wicked doynges But I praye you inuocate seculare brachium Cal vpon the secular power to be executioners of your vnryghteous iudgementes And haue you not a rytle in your lawe De haeruicis comburendis for to burne heretikes Harpes I haue heard you both a good while reason together and I neuer heard so stoute an heretike as you are maister Philpot. Cosins Neither I in al my lyfe Phil. You are not hable to proue me an heretike by one iot of Goddes worde Harpes You haue the spirite of arrogācye I wil reason with you no more And so he was departing and M. Cosins also And with that the bishop and Christoforson came in agayne sayd London M. D. howe dothe this man and your agree Morg. My lorde I do aske him where his churche was fyfty yeares ago London Are you not halfe agreed as one man sayd ones to tway partes of whom the one was equally disagreyng from the other Crhisto My lorde it is but foly to reason with him any further your lordeship shal but lose tyme for he is incurable London Wel then let his keper haue hym
thinges visible inuisible do cōsist haue their beyng and lyfe In the which beleue we were baptised by the institution of Christ in to the name of the father the sonne the holy Goost Mat. 28. And shal we now begin to stande in doubt of this most firme fayth the which frō the beginning hath ben cōfirmed besydes the vndoubted testimonies of the scriptures with the precious bloud of an infinit nomber of martirs and cōfessours It is no maruaile thoughe these Arrians denye the holy goost to be God who refuse the testimonie that he made of him selfe in fiery tongues to the primatiue churche Act. 1. Math. 3. and before that in the likenes of a Doue at the baptisme of Christ They must nedes denye the spirite of truth who be led by the spirite of errour vnder the colour of Godlynes denyeng their true sanctifier instructour whom Christ euidently taught to be an other comfortor besydes him The holy goost is an other comforter besides Christ And therfore to th ende he should so be beleued appeared visibly as Christ dyd but as their corrupt faces bashe not to denye the eternall sonne of God so are they not ashamed to denye the holye Goost to be God The Arrians are past shame their forehead is lyke the forehead of an hore hardened with counterfaited hypocrisie styffnecked wretches they are that wyll not yeld to the truth though it be neuer so manyfestly layde before their face they haue sworne to runne after their master the deuil wtout staye to draw with thē as many as they can in the which they are very diligent The Lorde confounde them the Lorde conserue his electe from their dampnable poyson the Lorde open al christian eyes to beware of them The Lorde gyue al his churche an vniforme zeale minde to abhorre them to cast faith frō them You that be of the truth haue any zeal of God in you stere it vp bynde it against these enemyes of our lyuyng God which is the Father the Sonne the holy Goost to whome be al honour praise and glorie for euer Canst thou be angred with thy brother beyng lawfully called to be a mynister in Christes church and to be a teacher in the same for spitting at an obstinate aduersarie of Christ refusyng to obey the truthe and declare no maner of indignacion against the Arrian the thefe that robbeth thy God of his honour Doth the iniurie of the Arrian more offende thee than the defence of thy redemer please the Art thou not ashamed rather to take part with an Arrian than with a true christian Thou wouldest seme to haue charitie by bearing with the wicked and contrarie to al charitie thou backbitest thy brother for doyng that which thou shouldest rather do than to haue any familiaritie with thee Yf thou dwel within the churche of Christ what hast thou to do with them that be without Which go about nothing els but to buyld a new Babilon and to destroye al the Godly order of the Gospel I tel thee plaine that I am nothyng of that face but gyue God thankes that I heare euil for wel doyng Yf I should please mē I could not please God I maruaile that there should be so litle zeale in a true christian hart that it can seme to take the part of an Arriā We can not scrue Christ and Baal how long wil mē halt on both sydes let your halting be healed Yf ye be vnfainedly of the truth abyde in the truthe let al your wyl be toward the ꝓfessours of the truth in the vnitie of Christes church least you might appeare to be scatterers with heretiks rather thā gatherers together with Christ Do ye not se what a rable of newe founde scaterers ther be such a sorte as neuer at ones hath bē heard of in one realme the one contrarye to the other The deuil hath shakē out his bagge of heresies against the gospell So that the deuel myght seme to haue powred out al his poysons at ones against the gospel And wyl you that glorie of the truth go about by worde dede helpe to maintayne any suche in their headdy errours he that toucheth pitche can not chose but defyle his fyngers therwith Be not deceaued sayeth S. Paule for wicked talke corrupteth good maners 1. Cor. 14 Therfore watche ye righteously and synne not for many therbe that haue not the knowlage of God I speake it to your shame 2. Tim. 2. Saint Paule willeth vs to be more circūspect in talking or acquainting our selues with suche then men at this daye be to their incorragemēt strenghtnyng in their errour The wordes of an heretike as he sayeth in an other place eateth lyke a canker 2. Tim. 2 And therfore wrytyng vnto Tyte Tit. 3. he commaundeth al Christian persones to auoyde an heretike after once or twyse warnyng knowing that such a one is peruerted and synneth and is dampned by his owne iudgement And to the Thessalonians he also sayeth 2. Thes 3. we commaunde you in the name of our Lorde Iesus Christ that you wythdrawe your selfes frō euery brother that walketh inordinatly not according to the institutiō which they haue receaued of vs. There can be no felowship betwixt fayth and infidelitie he that is not with Christ is his enemy Luke 11. he that is an enemie to the vnitie and peace of Christes churche he maye not be coupled with vs. And Salomon rendreth a cause why Prou. 16. A peruerse man in his mouthe doth carye perdicion and in his lippes hydeth fyer Agayne he sayeth an euil man obeyeth the tounge of the vnrighteous Prou. 17 but the Iuste harketh not to lyeng lippes Also Ecclesiasticus warneth sayeng Eccle 28. Hedge thyne cares wyth thornes and do not heare a wycked tounge This haue I touched to gyue you warning howe to behaue your selues with the Arrians and other sismatikes and heretikes whome al godlie ordre and good learning displeaseth the which yf our Christian brethren and systerne did well way and folow there wolde not be so many stoute heretikes as there be I doubt that the heretikes be better prouided for than the poore faithfull afflicted flocke of Christ If you heare that ther is contētion betwene vs and thē that be in prison maruaile not therfore neyther let your mindes be alienated from the truth any thing therby for as it is writtē it is necessary the heresies should be 1. Cor. 11. that the elect might be tryed Christ and Antichrist can neuer agree 1. Ioh. 2. And as S. Iohn saith Antichrist is come and there is nowe many Antichristes they ar gon out from vs such as were non of vs for if they had they wold haue cōtinued with vs by thys sayeng of S. Iohn we maye wel trye and knowe all the rowte of Antichristes generacion suche they be as breake the vnitie of Christes church neither abide in the
same neyther submit their iudgemēt to be tryed in the causes which they brable for by the Godly learned pastours therof but arrogauntlie depraue them and take vpon them selfe to be teachers before they haue learned affirming they can not tell what and speaking euil of that which they knowe not proude they are and puffed vp in the imaginacions of their owne hartes blinde senses and iudge them selues best of all other bycause they can make a pale face of ypocrysye to the worlde cast a glas of desembling water before the eyes of the simple people as these Arrians do But praised be God his word is lyuelie and mightye and beateth thē al downe like an yron rod an earthen pot in peaces yet they ar so hard harted far frō grace that they wil not yeld to the manifest truth whē they haue naught iustlie to replie besydes coūterfaited wordes There ys no pyth in thē ful of cōtētion backbiting these braulīg heretikes ar vnder a p̄tēce of fayned holines whō our saueour Christ aptly cōpared to painted sepulchres which be nothing els wtin Math. 23. but ful of rottē bones For wheras trew faith is not in the vnitie of Christes churche there is nothing but abhominable in the sight of God for God Psal 67. as the Prophete sayeth maketh his people to dwell after one maner in one house But with al maner of sectes can these peruerse generation awaye with al more thā with the vnitie of Christes pure catholike churche to the which in no wyse they will agree albeit the same is the piller stablishment of truthe as S. Paule wryteth to Timothe 1. Tim. 3. I neuer sawe neither hearde before of suche a syght of gydie and fantastical heades who delite only in singularitie whom I do muche pitie bycause they take so muche paynes to go to the deuil Arrogaunt singularitie and enuious contention be ready pathes leading to the same in the which they walke manfully Stil thei haue the scriptures in their mouth and crye the scripture the scripture but it commeth lyke a beggers clooke out of their mouthes ful of patches al out of facion and when they be by the worde ryghtly alledged ouerthrowen that they haue not with reason what to replye yet will they neuer be confounded But either departe in furie or elles stoppe their eares at the sayeng of the wyse charmers lyke deafe serpentes or els fal to scolding which is their surest diuinitie they fight with all And yf perchaunce any of them be soberer than other their aunswer is I praye you let vs alone our consciēs is satisfyed you labour but in vayne to go about to turne vs. Thus in selfe loue blyndnes and vayne hipocrisie these heretikes cōtinue be they neuer so charitably or learnedly informed And where they haue nothing to laye against their louing informers than they ymagine most spitfully and falsly to declare whose children they are blasphemies spreadyng the same abrode bothe by them selues by their adherentes against the syncere professours of the Gospel that we make God the author of synne and that we saye let men do what they wil it is not material yf they be predestinate and that we maintaine al carnal libertie dyse cardes dronkennesse and other inordinate thinges and gayne with this I among other am most slaūderously charged and defamed by these outragious heretikes to whome I haue gone about to my power to do good as God is my witnes but I haue receaued the rewarde of a Prophete at their hādes although I am not worthy to be counted vnder that glorious name which is shame rebuke slaunder sleyng of my good fame They are lyke Sathan their graund syer in this poinct Ioh. 8. who was a lyer and a mā queller frō the beginning These presciptuous heretikes do dayly declare their colde charitie which procedeth out of their colde faith God forgyue it them and inflame them with a better spirit I protest before God his angelles that I neuer ment neyther sayde any of these infamies wherof I am besyed of them with many other good mē Onely bycause I hold affirme beyng manifestly instructed by goddes word that the electe of God cannot finally perishe therfore they haue pyked out of their owne malicious nayles the former parte of these blasphemyes and bycause at an other tyme I dyd reproue them of their temerarious rashe iudgement for condempning of men vsyng thinges indifferent as shoting boulyng hawking with such lyke ꝓuyng by the scripture that al men in a temperancy might vse them in their dewe tymes shewyng that honest pastyme was no synne which these contencious sysmatikes do improue wherupon they do maliciously descāt as is before mēcioned And whether I haue deserued to haue this reproche for tellyng them the truthe which they can not abyde let al men iudge that be of an vpright iudgemēt Might not these hipocrites be ashamed of their bridleles blasphemous tounges yf the deuil had not rubbed awaye all shame frō their fore heades S. Iames sayeth Iames. ● that yf any persone which would seme to be a gospeller refrayne not his tounge his religion is in vayne O what a meany of vayne caterpillers be there whiche corrupt the swete and holsom flowers of the Gospel to the shame therof as moche as it lyeth in them It had ben better for them neuer to haue knowen the Gospel than by their prowde freewill knowlage to go aboute to subuert the same I would they would be taught by the churche of Christ where they ought to be and become syncere confessours or elles leaue bogging of heresies to their owne damnaciō and deceauing of many The heretikes clout vp the scriptures without vnderstanding and fal to their owne occupacion euery man according to his owne callyng and learne to eate with the swet of their owne browes their bread to helpe others as goddes word cōmaūdeth thē not to lye in corners lyke hūbledories eating vp the hony of the bees do nothing els but murmure and sting at the veritie and at all faithful labourers in the lordes vynyarde Thus by the waye I thought it good to admonishe you of other heretikes besydes the Arriās who be hād maidens vnto them do dayly make an entraunce for thē to encrease who belong to one kingdome of darknes although the one be not so high in degree as the other Blynde guydes they are Mat. 15. and leaders of the blynde and as many as folowe them do fal into the ditch for as it is sayd of Salomō ther is a waye that semeth to a mā right Prou. 14. yet the ende therof tendeth to destruccion Direct therfore your steppes with the churche of Christ in the wayes of the gospel and in brotherly vnitie and accompt it as the synne of witchcraft to make diuision from the same And God of his mercy eyther turne their hartes shortly or els confounde