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A78132 A defence of the lavvfulnesse of baptizing infants. As also of the present baptisme, as it hath continued in the severall ages of the world, from John Baptist the first beginner thereof. In way of answer to something written by Iohn Spilsberie against the same. Barbon, Praisegod, 1596?-1679. 1645 (1645) Wing B749; Thomason E270_12; ESTC R212355 60,304 74

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