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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85414	A short ansvver to A. S. alias Adam Stewart's second part of his overgrown duply to the two brethren. Together with certaine difficult questions easily answered; all which A. Stewart is desired to consider of, without replying, unlesse it be to purpose. A. Steuart [sic] in his second part of his duply to the two brethren. page 166. The civill magistrate cannot bee orthodox, and tollerate a new sect, (hee meanes independencie, and may as well say Presbytery) unles hee tollerate us to beleeve that hee is either corrupted by moneys, or some other waye, so to doe.	Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665.	1644 (1644)	Wing G1201; Thomason E27_6; ESTC R8324	30,557	41

and Gomorrah than for many people amongst whom Christ wrought most of his miracles Know you not that many who live and dye Papists because through ignorance as Paul whilst he persecuted the Saints 1. Tim. 1. 13. Whom God therefore had mercie on shall rise up in judgement against all Protestants which know Gods will and do it not Doe you not take it to be mad doctrin of Pauls when he presupposes there may bee a case when the best Christians I say not Presbyterians may nay ought never more eat flesh drinke wine nor anything where at a brother stumbleth is offended or made weake And yet if you beleeve Rom. 14. 21. 1. Cor 8. 13. you may finde it Evangelical a little othergates than such stuffe as you baptize with Orthodox and then think it pleaseth the Holy Ghost because such men such dust and ashes as your selfe know no better that all the world will they nill they must fall down and worship it If Independents say they have no faith in communicating with your mixt multitude and joyning in an English Directory alias a Scotch Common-prayer-booke and you notwithstanding by imprisoning or discountenancing compel them to it doe you not make them commit Idolatrie Are they not damned because they doubt thereof Rom. 14. 23. Can the Priests in Frame the Divels in Hell or Presbyterians anywhere do worse by Protestants But you promise largely you say the Presbyterians will not compel the Independents to act against their consciences only you will not suffer them to seduce other mens consciences What an Agrippa-like halfe Christian paradox is this Doth the truth constraine you to acknowledge that compelling Independents to joyn with you in your mixt communions and stinted worship against their consciences would amount unto Idolatrie and may they not instruct their Famelies friends brethren and all such who gaspe after a word of knowledge or but desire to be instructed by them how to decline Idolatrie and worship God in sincerity and truth Did not Nature engrave it in the hearts of al men that it is better to obey God than man Did not the Apostles for our clearer understanding resolve it when 't was made a question Act 4. 19. Are not all such condemned for unproffitable servants who put a candle under a bushel For lapping up their tallent in a napkin For not strengthning others after they themselves are converted And though you so often upbraid this as a licentious course and way to let in all Heresie and impiety have patience if I tell you the Papists say the verie same for excluding Protestantisme out of their Dominions and neither you as profownd an AS as you take your selfe to be nor all the Presbyterians in the world can say one tittle more than Papists doe in this behalfe now wherein your Divinity your Disciplin your Righteousnes exceeds not that of Papists take it not so hainously that Independents who have not so learned Christ may not dare not joyne with you yet if upon a second consideration hereof you shall still remain head-strong banishing all farther truth left some Heresies should creepe in therewith good now do but discover to us a possibility how after the Presbyterian rule which according to AS sayes the Civil Magistrate has power not to admit the true Church or to turne it out though it had beene admitted and established by low The Roman Church can ever be reformed or the Iewes converted to the Gospel Concerning the Churches of New-England you say their Independency is worse than Heresie you strengthen your selfe in denying them a toleration in Old-England because they will not graunt you one in New-England and yet you bid them begon thither and live in peace but tell me a little how can they be secure in New-England from the omnipotency of the Presbyterian Disciplin which is as covetuous and ambitious as Rome it selfe which claim 's no lesse than all the World ought you not to endeavour their conversion equal to your brethrens of Old-England and that as well unto your Disciplin as to your doctrin Are their soules not worth saving Or their Country not worth living in the soile is thought no whit inferiour if not better then the best in Old-England though there be not so good plundering for money and rich moveables But why should not the soules of your New-English Brethren bee as deare unto you as those of Old-England Or though your Brethren of New-England should know the way to heaven of themselves How can you with a quiet mind endure they should get thither without your Passe your Mittimus your Peter-pence Or why may not the Old-English be thought as charitably on or find the like favour from your over dilligent Presbyerie But put the case you did really desire the New-English their conversion you approve of them in suffering no opinions to be published but their owne If this Disciplin be strictly observed How can they possibly attaine to better light and knowledge What course will you take for their informing for convincing them of this worse than Heretical tenet as you call it if to their's and your Church pollicy they should lykewise attaine as sharp a Civil sword as yours Or put case that even your own most excellent Doctorship were not so sound or orthodox as self conceited which many have strong presumptions for who are thought better able to judge thereof than AS himselfe will you put your selfe in an impossibilitie of ever being reformed except tumultuously or illegally both waies compulsively Was ever any AS so dull so stupid so voide both of Civil and Christian policie But what shall I say unto you since according to your Theologie nothing is so likely to prevaile with you as cudgelling Page 172. You say that refusing to tolerate the Independents will helpe to confirme the Churches and people in the truth of Presbyterian Diciplin and Doctrin that many men are led by authority and take many things upon the trust of great men c. Phy AS Are you not asham'd thus to uncover the nakednesse of your Churches To tell us and them that the Presbyterian world takes up a religion and government upon trust And if the Venerable and learned Assemblie as you stile them should not graunt a toleration of any thing but Poprie or Turcisme would not your good people whom you speake of be as easily confirmed of the truth thereof Surely they will unlesse they bee wiser than their Anchesters which will not be beleeved Page 179. You ask What power hath either King or Parliament to intrude and force upon the Kingdome new religions or a toleration of all Sects And say the Parliament assumes no such power to it selfe If this bee true How can it settle not to say intrude as AS does improperly and unmannerly the Scotch Presbyterian disciplin in England more than the Independency of New-English Churches For since the Churches of Scotland and New England for Doctrin agree in fundamentals differ onely in Disciplin