Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	according_a	church_n	word_n	2,678	5	4.0797	3	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A80164	Vindiciæ ministerii evangelici revindicatæ: or The preacher (pretendedly) sent, sent back again, to bring a better account who sent him, and learn his errand: by way of reply, to a late book (in the defence of gifted brethrens preaching) published by Mr. John Martin of Edgefield in Norfolk, Mr. Samuel Petto of Sandcroft in Suffolk, Mr. Frederick Woodale of Woodbridge in Suffolk: so far as any thing in their book pretends to answer a book published, 1651. called Vindiciæ ministerii evangelici; with a reply also to the epistle prefixed to the said book, called, The preacher sent. By John Collinges B.D. and pastor of the church in Stephens parish in Norwich.	Collinges, John, 1623-1690.	1658 (1658)	Wing C5348; Thomason E946_4; ESTC R207611	103,260	172

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n we_o say_v if_o it_o signify_v choose_v here_o yet_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n choose_v 2._o our_o brethren_n say_v this_o can_v not_o be_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o choose_v by_o suffrage_n now_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n can_v not_o make_v suffrage_n all_o this_o be_v a_o riddle_n to_o i_o for_o if_o i_o understand_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i●_n signify_v the_o hand_n not_o the_o tongue_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o stretch_v out_o not_o to_o speak_v the_o word_n no_o otherwise_o signify_v a_o choose_n by_o suffrage_n than_o the_o lift_n up_o of_o the_o hand_n do_v testify_v the_o suffrage_n but_o why_o can_v not_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n make_v suffrage_n sure_o they_o make_v two_o and_o that_o be_v the_o plural_a number_n sure_o the_o truth_n be_v the_o primary_n signification_n of_o the_o word_n be_v to_o choose_v by_o lift_v up_o of_o the_o hand_n 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