which they used in Catechising and in Baptism which were a great means to keep out Heresie and Church-Tyranny and Heresie were the Introducers of all their Alterations 10. The Lay-Christians of the first Aages were so full of Zeal that they would have taken it ill to have been forbâ—dden to speak their Answering and Consenting parts in the Church as the Iews before did and as now we would take it ill for the Minister to Sing alone and forbid the People And tho the scantness of History in the first two Ages tell us not what words were then used as a Liturgy and no doubt but praying by Habit was used chiefly yet some few Sentences that are recorded tell us that they used some Forms 11. Constantine himself made Prayers for his Soldiers and every Bishop then used what Prayers he thought best in his own Church and composed himself the Forms which he used constantly till Heresie and weakness of Ministers caused a Council to decree That every one should first shew his Form of Prayer to the Synods to be examined and approved before he used it 12. I do not read or hear of many Churches on earth at this dâ—y that used not a Liturgie except Nâ—w England and some Non confâ—rmists here Nor did I ever read that any one Church 〈…〉 for a 〈◊〉 Years after Christs time did ever scruple it or speak 〈…〉 remembrance so that it was for many Ages the 〈…〉 Church on earth At this day the Greeks Armâ—â—ians 〈…〉 Circassians Mâ—ngreliâ—ns Indian and Persian 〈◊〉 s the 〈…〉 Egyptians all the Countreys that have 〈…〉 Mâ—ronites beside the Papists have a Liturgie very 〈◊〉 more 〈…〉 Even those ascribed to Iames Mark 〈◊〉 The 〈◊〉 have one or divers in divers Countreys And thâ—se called 〈◊〉 Reâ—â—â—med have one tho a shorter and more simple 〈◊〉 France 〈◊〉 Hâ—lland the Palatinate Helvetia c. 13. The Nonconformists in England were generally for the Lawfulness of a Form or Liturgie and for Communion of the Parish Churches therein in the days of King Edward the Sixth Queen Elizabeth King Iames and King Charles the First And wrote more against Separation by far than the Bishops did as is yet visible in their Books specially Cartwright Hildersham Bradshaw Paget Gifford Brighâ—man Bayne Rathband Iohn Ball c. 14. Those then counted the Fathers of Independency were of the same mind for Parish Communion and against Separation Mr. Iacob Bradshaw Ames see his First and Second Manuduction 15. Yea those call'd Brownists or Separatists were for Communion in the Liturgie in the usual parts and for the truth of those Parish Churches that had good Ministers I have cited their own words before tho all of them were not of the same mind 16. The Martyrs in Queen Marys days had a chief hand in composing our Liturgie and rejoyced in it and worshipped God according to it And none that I read of separated for this from the rest as false Worshippers 17. When before 1639. there were but about one or two Nonconformable Ministers for each County if it had been unlawful to Communicate in the publick Churches with the Liturgy all England must have lived like Atheists without any Church Worship for want of Ministers except about thirty or fourty Yea those few kept up no usual Church Worship except those of them that by connivence had small Chappels or peculiars And of them most used much of the Liturgy 18. All the Congregations of the Nonconformists in England that I have heard save one now broken not counting such as Quakers c. have used and do use stinted imposed forms of Worship to this day and therefore judg it not unlawful meerly as forms or as imposed 1. Parents teach their Children a form of words in Catechisms in Prayers in giving Thanks for their Meat and impose these on them 2 Ministers impose on the Assemblies their own method and words in Prayer which are a form to the people yea and a form which they know not till they hear it and have no time to examine it while it floweth from the Speaker And their Sermons are imposed forms of Doctrine sometimes written also and read 3. Few men that retain any Sobriety in Religion are against the Creed to be used as a form of Confession of Faith 4. The Independents drew up at the Savor about 1658 or 1659. a form of Confession of their Faith and Discipline 5. They attempted Dr. Owen Mr. Nye Dr. Goodwin Mr. Sid. Sampson Dr. Cheynell and others by appontment of a Committee of Parliament to have drawn up a Catalogue of Fundamentals to have been imposed for consent on all that should be tolerated in the Land in Church-Worship they are yet to be seen in Print But Arch-bishop Usher being chosen for one and refusing and I being by his consent substituted in his room broke that attempt finding that their Fundamentals were lamentably composed and that Christianity was not an unknown thing and that Baptism the Creed Lords Prayer and Decalogue were a far better Catalogue of Fundamentals than theirs 6. We all constantly use an English form of Translation of the Scripture where all the English words the division of Chapters and Verses are mans invention imposed on all 7. We all use constantly forms of Confession Prayer Thanksgiving and Praise in the singing of Psalms where when Davids and the Iews Psalms are used the Translation or rather Paraphrase the rhime or meters and the tune are humane and imposed And the Separatists themselves make no question but other Psalms such as that of Ambrose c. more suted to the State of the Gospel Church may be fitly used as Paul requireth which must be composed by man and imposed on the Churches or never unanimously used Our common use of singing Psalms and Hymns is the use of stinted imposed forms 8. He that doth not celebrate Baptism and the Lords Supper often in words of the same signification shall corrupt those Sacraments by his affectation of variety of words the matter being the same 9. No man knoweth before-hand whether a Minister hath studied and sore compsed his Prayer or Sermon and yet all joyn with him 10. Many affect to compose all their Prayer in Scrpture Sentences which do but make up one form of many 19. When the King came in the Ministers of London were invited to attempt a Concord with the Bishops and they offered to joyn in the use of the Litugy if it were corrected And they offered Additional Forms or a Reformed Liturgy which they would have used I know it will be objected That I plead in this but for my own works But I answer 1. The Exceptions and Emendations of the old Liturgy offered was none of my work 2. And the new one which I drew up by their appoinment had their common review and consent It will be said That these were not all the then Nonconformists I answer It was the main Body of the London Ministers and it was as many as
Communion is an Essential duty of a Church-member meaning a Christian. A. 1. And yet before he denyed that Communion lay essentially in this Exercise but only in Vnion Yea and Nay is his Custom 2. Some few Christians as those that live where such Communion cannot be had without sin c. are not bound to it therefore it is not true that it is Essential to Universal Church-membership And I think sickness endeth not the essentials that disableth men 3. Note Reader that by this mans Doctrine we are all unchristened and damned if we do not gather into disallowed Churches if we be unjustly cast out of the allowed ones For all must be Church members that will be Christians and an unjust Excommunication cannot disoblige us from Christianity nor bind us to consent to be damned Now read the 5 th 6 th 7 th 8 th c. Canons of the Church of England which ipso facto Excommunicate all that affirm any thing in their Liturgy Articles Ceremonies or Government sinful and answer Spalatensis arguments against Excommunicating ipso facto and prove all this just and you may prove what you will just But you see where he layeth the Controversie If any be Excommunicated without sufficient cause or by Lay Civilians to whom God never gave that power or by such Bishops or Pastors as have no just Authority for want of a true call or Consent or if any unlawful thing be made necessary to Communion all such persons must by his own confessions hold Church-communion whether these imposers will or not for all Christians are bound to be of some Church § 3. p. 33 34. He saith that None but publick Prayers are the Prayers of the Church properly and acts of Communion that is such as are offered by the hands of men authorized and set apart for that purpose c. Ans. Who would have thought that we are more for the Liturgy than he I undertake to prove that all the Responsal Prayers and all the Litany Prayers in which the Minister names but the matter to them and the People make it a Prayer by speaking the petitioning parts are all the publick Prayers of the Church and so are all the petitioning Psalms spoke or sung by the People and not only that which is offered by the Priest I do not think that he believeth what he carelesly saith here himself But the Independents are stiffer for his first Thesis of the necessity of Church-communion than he is his unfit words I pass by CHAP. III. Of his second Case § 1. THE next question of Occasional Communion as distinct from fixed he turns out of doors as if there could be no such thing and it 's very true as to the Church universal but as to visible actual Communion with this or that particular Church it is not true 1. A Traveller of another Country who on his journey communicateth with every Church where he passeth is not a fixed Member of that Church for 1. The Pastor or Bishop hath not that peculiar Charge of him as of fixed members 2. He is not bound where he passeth to take such notice of the lives of Communicants or Pastors and to admonish the Offenders and tell the Church as fixed members are 3. He hath not the right in chooseing Pastors or Deacons as the fixed Members have 4. An itinerant Bishop in transitu is not their fixed Bishop ergo an Iterant Lay-man is not a fixed Member The same I may say of one that is a fixed member of another Church in the same City and cometh to that only to signifie universal Communion or neighbourly which though he deny to be lawful I shall further prove anon And the same I may say of those that dwell where there is no fixed single Church at all for want of a Pastor but they congregate only when some strange Minister passeth through the Town CHAP. IV. His third Case § 1. PAge 48 49. He resolveth his third Case Whether it be lawful to Communicate with two distinct and separate Churches negatively and saith It is contrary to all the Principles of Church Communion as any thing can possibly be it is to be contrary to our selves it is Communicating with Schism That the Presbyterian and Independent Churches have made an actual separation from the Church of England he hath evidently proved and they are Schismaticks and to communicate with them is to partake in their Schism and if Schism be a great sin and that which will damn us as soon as Adultery and Murther then it must needs be a dangerous thing to communicate with Schismaticks And p. 42. There cannot be two distinct Churches in one place one for occasional and another for constant Communion without Schism Ans. To save those that are willing from the Poyson of these Schismatical Doctrines lapt up in confusion by men that abhor distinction or understand not what they say I will first lay down that truth that he fights against with convincing evidence and then shew you the mischief of his false Doctrine and Application § 2. The confusion of these words Church Communion Separation and Schism which every one signifie divers things is the chief means to blind and deceive his Reader whether it do so by himself I know not I. The Word Church signifieth sometime the universal Church sometime a single Organized Church as part of it and sometime humane combinations of such single Churches and that into Diocesan Classical Provincial Patriarchal National and Papal II. The Specification and Nomination of Churches is from the formal cause and the proper Government is that form And the Individuation is from matter and form but principally from the form III. The Union of Pastor and Flock in Relation makes that which is a form aptitudinal as the Soul to the Body to be the form in act as the Union of Soul and Body and Gods command and consent with the consent of the necessary relate and correlate cause that union IV. Union is in order to Communion which is primary by the exercise of the formal powers on the matter and secondary by the action of all the parts according to their several capacities and Offices V. The Union of the Church is of divers degrees 1. The formal Union of the Head and Body which maketh it essentially the Christian Church 2. The Vnion of the parts among themselves as Christian which maketh them a Body capable of Union with the Head 3. The Union of the parts as unequal Organized the Official with the rest which maketh it an Organized Body fit for its special use and welfare 4. Union in integrity of parts which maketh it an intire Body 5. Union in due temperament and Qualities which maketh it a healthful Body 6. Unity in Common Accidents which make it a Comely Beautiful Body joined with the rest But 7. Union in mutable Accidents is unnecessary and impossible VI. These several degrees of Union are found in Bodies natural and Politick 1. The
should not only hold any errour or practise sin but require men to subscribe and approve it and say it is no sin no man ought to do this nor yet to live like an Atheist and forsake all Worship because men forbid him if it were but to subscribe one untruth But alas this is no rare Case In one Emperours Reign all were Anathematized that subscribed not to the Council of Chalcedon and quickly after all that did or that would not renounce it The same division and changes were made by the Councils against and for the Monothelites de tribus Capitulis Images c. And when all Men living have many Errours and the Church of England disclaimeth her Infallibility and yet will receive no Minister that will not subscribe that there is nothing in her Books contrary to the word of God the Case is hard But when all the things mentioned in the Plea for Peace are proved lawful we shall be more yielding in this Case XLV 9. If true and sound Christians mistakingly think one or many things to be heinous sins as Perjury Lying Renouncing Obedience to God and Repentance c. which are things indifferent but of so great difficulty that most Learned and Godly and Willing Men cannot discern the Lawfulness and agree and yet are not necessary nor just conditions of Ministry or Communion and so it is the Imposer that entangleth them by difficulty in their dissent it is not lawful for these men therefore to forbear all Church Worship but must use it as they can XLVI 10. If any Church unjustly excommunicate such men or others they must not forbear all Church order and worship because men so excommunicate them No man must Sin to escape Excommunication and every man in the World is a sinner And therefore all the World must be excommunicated if all Sinners must be so As I before said the times oft were when almost all the Bishops in the Empire were excommunicated by one another Councils and Popes have oft excommunicated some for trifles and some for Truth end Duty And such must not therefore renounce all Church Worship and Communion The Church of England do by their standing Law ipso facto excommunicate all as aforesaid that affirm any thing to be repugnant to Gods Word or sinful in their whole Church Government Articles Liturgy and Ceremonies and so to stand till they Publickly revoke this as a wicked Errour Now many Lords and Commoners in Parliaments have spoken against some of these particulars and some out of Parliament Many Ministers have done the like when the King Commissioned them to treat for Alterations And many when the Accusations or demands of others have called them to give a Reason of their Actions Some have maintained that it is repugnant to Gods word that Lay Civilians should have the decretive Power of the Keyes and that the Parish Minister must cast out of Communnion all that the Lay Doctors or Chancellors excommunicate and all that dare not receive kneeling and that they should deny Christendom to all that scruple the English sort of God-Fathers Covenants and the transient Symbolical Image of the Cross with abundance such things Now all these are ipso sacto excommunicate And thô they be not bound to avoid the Church till this be applicatorily declared yet actually excommunicate they are and that by a higher authority thâ—n the Bishops and they know the Churches decree and the Priests are sworn to Canonical Obedience And he that will not tempt them to be forsworn nor come into a Church that hath excommunicated him seems therein excuseable But must he therefore renounce the Church of God XLVII 11. If the People are so set against one Bishop for another as that half being for one and half for the other and both Orthodox they cannot be perswaded to unite in one A Council at Rome determined in the Case of Paulinus and Flavian at Antioch that both of them should hold their distinct Churches and so live in love and peace And though one or both parties in this were mistaken Sinners so are all morral men who yet must not live like Atheists XLVIII 12. An undetermined accident must be so determined as most serveth to do the greatest good and avoid the greatest Evil But whether divers Churches shall promiscuously live in the same City or Diocess or Parish is an Accident not determined by God and either way may be for the greatest good as circumstances vary e. g. When in a Church half cannot consent to condemn the words of Theodoret Theodore Mopsuest and Ibas and half will condemn them with the Council if these can serve God quietly in Love and Peace in different Congregations but cannot endure one another in the same it is most for the Churches Peace that they be permitted to joyn with those of their own Mind When one Pope declared that it 's sound Doctrine to say One of the Trinity was Crucified when another had declared that it is not sound Doctrine they that held with one Pope and they that held with the other might both be true Churches in different Assemblies When Iustinian raised the bloody controversie between the Corrupticolae and the Phantasiastae wise men thought both sides were true Churches Yea and so did many wise men think of the Orthodox and Nestorians and many Eutychians XLIX 13. It 's a common case under Turks and Heathens that they give liberty of Conscience for Christians of all parties Now suppose that in Aâ—â—ppo in Constantinople or elsewhere there be partly for Countrey sake and partly for Language but most for different Judgments one Church of Armenians one of Greeks one of English-men c. what Law of God makes only one of these to be a true Church and which is it L. 14. Suppose that the setled Church e. g. in Holland Sweden Saxony is for Presbytery or for an Episcopacy that arose from Presbyters ordination or that had none or a short Liturgy and the Prince would tolerate English men as Frankford did to set up a Church of the English Form and Liturgy I think few Prelatists would deny it to be lawful LI. I omit other instances and come to the matter of Separation which word serveth this man and such other in so general and undistinguished a sence as would make one think he were of Mr. Dodwell's mind That words in dispute have but one signification which all are bound to know that use them Even a Bell by the same sound sometime signifieth a call to Church and sometime a Funeral and sometime Joy but Separate Separate is rung over and over with these men as if it signified but one thing 1. He that heareth half the Sermon and Service and goeth out of Church doth Separate at that time from the rest When a Protestant Heretick was doing Penitence with his Faggot at St. Maries in Oxford and the Fryer was Preaching a mistaken Voice in the street made them think the Hereticks had set the
Jurisdiction by right in this Land And all that by mistake say the King hath not chief Power in all his Dominions meaning in France of which he professeth to be King and we so call him even in our Prayers to God All that say contrary to Art 38. that it is not their Duty liberally to give Alms according to their ability All that contrary to Art 39 think men in conforming may swear upon trust of their Superiours words without judgment and true understanding of Justice and Truth Aâ—l these are already ipso facto Excommunicated by this one Canon and if they elsewhere worship God are called Separatists and Schismaticks in danger of Damnation as Adulterers and Murtherers are And how great a number are these 10. All are ipso facto Excommunicate by the sixth Canon who affirm that the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England by Law established are superstitious or such as now commanded men who are zealously and godly affected may not with a good Conscience APPROVE use and subscribe as occasion requireth That is all that thus mistake kneeling at the Sacrament on the reasons aforenamed to be against the second Commandment or that judge so of the Surplice or that think the Cross as described by the Canon and Liturgy hath all the Essentials of a humane unlawful Sacrament of the Covenant of Grace And all that are against the Rites of Godfathers that never owned the Child as theirs to be the only Sponsors in its Name and to Vow its Christian Education when I never knew one living that so much as made the Parents believe that he intended it And all that think the words of the Liturgy making Imposition of hands an assuring sign of Gods Gracious acceptance make Confirmation a humane unlawful Sacrament and say so All these are cut off 11. By Canon seventh all are ipso facto excommunicate that affirm that the Government of the Church of England under his Majesty by Arch-Bishops Bishops Deans Archdeacons and THE REST THAT BEAR OFFICE in the same is repugnant to Gods word that is all Bishops Ministers Noblemen Gentlemen or People that say that it is against Gods word for Lay Civilians or Chancellours to govern by the Church Keyes excommunicate or absolve And all that think it unlawful for Surrogates that are not Bishops but Presbyters either as a Cryer pro forma to pronounce all excommunicate or absolved who are so decreed by the Lay Chancellor or else for them or a Priest-Chancellour to govern a Diocess by the Keyes of Excommunication and Absolution being no Bishops and all that think it sinful for Archdeacons Commissaries Officials c. who are no Bishops to exercise the same Government by the Keyes over so many Pastors or Churches or for a Bishop to do his Office by others that are no Bishops any more than a Priest by those that are no Priests or for a Diocesan with his Lay Court to Govern many score or hundred Churches under him without any subordinate Bishop in those Churches that is to set up the Name and shew and make Christs Discipline impossible Or for Lay Chancellors or Surrogates to publish Excommunications in the Bishops Name which he never knew of nor tryed the cause Or for such Chancellours to oblige all Parish Ministers to publish all their Excommunications which are agreeable to these Canons What quality and number they are of that call any of this sinful I pretend not to know But they are all now excommunicate men 12. The eight Canon ipso facto excommunicateth all that affirm that the form and manner of making and consecrating Bishops Priests and Deacons hath any thing repugnant to Gods Word c That is all those that hold Bishops and Presbyters to be the same Order contrary to the words of that Book Which yet even the Church of England while Papists declared in King Aelfriks Canons see Spelman And all such as Thorndike who say the People and Clergy should choose their Bishops or that say the Peoples consent is necessary to the Pastoral Relation to them and that the old Canons for this are in force 13. The ninth Canon ipso facto excommunicateth the Separatists 14. The tenth Canon excommunicateth all that affirm that Ministers that refuse to subscribe to the Liturgy c. and their Adherents may truely take to themselves the Name of another Church not established by Law and dare publish that this their pretended Church hath long groaned under the burden of imposed grievances by the Church of England and the Orders and Constitutions therein by Law established Ipso facto is not here This reacheth to all that confine not Gods Church in England to the Party that subscribe and their Adherents If any say that if such as Blondel Rivet Amesius or any other the most Learned holy peaceable men that dare not subscribe as aforesaid should with any Christians worship God together and that these are a true Church though he judge them faulty and that these Canons are grievances such are to be excommunicated Though it be gross Schism in others to confine not onely the Purity but the Verity of a Church to their own Party For such to feel and groan loud here is Excommunication 15. The eleventh Canon much to the same purpose requireth the Excommunication of all that affirm that any Subjects in England may rightly challenge the Name of true and lawful Churches besides those allowed by Law though the King should License them 16. The twelfth Canon ipso facto excommunicateth all that make Rules and Orders in Causes Ecclesiastical without the Kings Authority and submit to them e. g. All that without the Kings authority agree to turn the Table Altar-wise to require People to kneel at the Rails or to bow toward the Alter or East or to set up Organs c. All these are now excommunicate by an Authority above the Bishops which no Bishop or Priest can dispense with but only forbear to publish and execute it but not nullifie it no nor absolve any that publickly repent not of it as a wicked Errour 16. By Canon fourteenth if any Minister shall diminish any part of the Orders Rites Ceremonies Prayers c. in regard of Preaching or ANY OTHER RESPECT or shall adde any thing in matter or form e. g. If he let the Parent express the dedication of his Child to God or lay any charge on any Parent he breaketh the Church Law and so far separateth from it 17. By Canon fifteenth when twenty or thirty thousand are commanded to come to a Church that cannot receive six thousand and the Alleys and Pewes are wedg'd so that they cannot all kneel yet all that kneel not at the Prayers and all that say not audibly the Confession Lords Prayer Creed and Responses disobey the Laws of the Church and so far separate from it 18. When twenty thousand Persons are commanded to come in more than can if ten thousand of them or any number should come to the
on this miserable Priest and save him from his heinous Schism that out of his own month he may not be condemned as no Member of Christ. 2. Reader while the Piper Harper or Trumpeter giveth no distinction in the sound 1 Cor. 7.7 8. but thinks that crying Communion Communion should charm men into the same Disease of Confusion and Schism which he is sick of If thou be awake I invite thee still but to use thy Reason in these three distinctions 1. Between Subjection and Communion 2. Between local Separation and mental 3. Between mental Separation in and from meer circumstances accidents or integrals and in and from essentials necessary to Christianity and Christian Communion And then if thou canst not Answer this Doctor and escape Schism which he tempts thee to without any further Confutation I dispair of curing thee 1. None are of Christ's Church that separate from any thing Essential to it 2. All Congregations are locally divided and separated frome one another 3. All Churches and Persons that differ in a Translation a Form a Word a Ceremony in their Communion by opposite Opinions or Practises are so far mentally opposite in their Communion E. g. They that were for observing Meals and Daies Rom. 14. and they that were not Peter and Barnabas that separated from the Gentile Christians while the Jews were there and Paul that reproved them for it Yea those that for small Mental difference separate locally A Prelatist that scruples taking one Parish Priest or Bishop for his Pastor suppossing him insufficient or a false Teacher separateth by removing his dwelling to another Diocess or Parish These Schismaticks have not yet dared to say that this man separateth from Christ. The Convocation caused Godfrey Goodman to be imprisoned 1640 His Diocess and the next were Separate in their Separate Heads Victor Excomunicated the Asian Churches Here were opposite Churches and Communion the Greeks and Romans the Abassine Syrian Assyrian Armenian Georgian c. Churches censure and Separate from others in their Communions to this day so do some Lutherans from other Protestants hold Communions opposite in point of Consubstantiation and Images So do such as Mr. Dodwell condemn all Communion that hath not uninterrupted Episcopal Succession You write against him and Archbishop Bramhall so far are your Communions opposite Doctor Gunning in the time of Usurpation was against the Parish-Communion then practised and separated from it Archbishop Usher Bishop Browning and multitudes of Episcopal men did not Did all these separate from Christ. Was Cyprian and all the African and Numidian Bishops separate from Christ or the Pope in Augustin's daies when there was so long opposition between three Popes and Aurelius Augustine and the rest of the Africans which party was unchristened Was it Miracle-working St. Martin that was unchristened or the Synods of Bishops whose Communion he renounced to the Death Epiphanius giveth so high a character of Audius that wise men think his Separation from the Bishops that abhorred his reproof unchristened him not Socrates and Sâ—zomen tells us of great diversity and opposition in the Communions of many Countries about Easter and other things that yet unchristened them not When the Scots and Britains would not communicate with Gregories Austin nor eat in the same House with the Romans which party was cut off from Christ Was it Chrysostomes Ioannites or the Council that deposed him and the Cyrillians that were cut off from Christ Was it the Party of Meletius Paulinus or Flavian at Antioch that were not united to Christ Not only Socrates and Sozomen but Atticus and Procluus and other men freer from Schism and Ignorance than our Dr. thought the Novatians were united to Christ. Was Lucifer Calaritanus cut off from Christ for gathering a Church separate from the Bishops that he thought too hastily received the returning Arians Was it Zachary and Boniface that were cut off from Christ or the Two Presbyters that they excommunicated for holding Antipodes c Was it the Church of Canstantinople or of Rome that was unchurch't when Vigilius and Menna and other Patriarchs excommunicated one another If David Derodon have proved that Nestorius spake Orthodoxly and Cirilas was an Eutichian or if I have undeniably proved that they meant the same thing or Iob Ludolphus that the Eutychians were sound in the faith which of the parties that these 1300. years have condemned each other are cut off from Christ When the Italians set up a Patriarch at Aquileia an hundred years against Rome which side was unchurched When the Pope Alexander 3. Innocent 4. c. interdicted whole Kingdoms France England c. and part of the Churches obeyed the Pope and part the King and when in the Wars with Frederick Henr. 4 th and 5 th Oâ—hâ— c. part of the Bishops were for the Emperor and condemned the rest and the other part condemned them as Henrician Hereticks which side was unchurched When all the Truths that Philastrius calls Heresies in palpable ignorance had parties condemned for holding them as Hereticks was it the feigned Hereticks or the condemners that were unchurched But if this man's words be true and Priests can so easily damn men it 's time to think what those men do that have made such damning Canons as ours before-mentioned and that damn all that differ and obey them not in every word and ceremony which they will command on those damning terms And were this true whether it were not wisdom for all men to pack up and leave the Land to the Priests themselves and those that are ductile and sequacious enough to follow them to the last For my part I believe not that he that goeth from one Church to another as separating from a pair of Organs or Cathedral singing or Copes or from a sorry Priest for a better or from an undisciplined Church to one that useth true Discipline not judging the Church that he goeth from worse than it is doth any thing inconsistent with his Christianity nor is separated from Christ What the seed of Cain do that hate and persecute their brethren and whether they separate from Christ when they fight against Love I leave to others â— 31. Page 64 65. But the man hard put to it hath a new notable subterfuge He that hath said all this for One Church hath found Two Universal Visible Churches in the World besides the Invisible One câ—nsists of all those Christians and Churches who profess the true Faith of Christ observe his Laws and Institutions and live in Communion and Fellowship with each other This he owns Ans. So do we with these Suppositions 1. That no man observeth all Christ's Laws and Institutions without sin but true Christians profess and practice the observation of them sincerely so far as they know them 2. Those that you damn and persecute profess to do this to the best of their understanding and say it is for doing it that you revile and ruin them 3. We suppose that when Christ's
dilemmatically either by Peace and Union you mean inclusive Union with Christ and the Unity of the Spirit one Faith one hope and Union of Christian Love and by Communion a Communion in things necessary to salvation or you do not If you do then this is the true Paraphrase of your words They may have all the Essentials of a true Church except all the Essentials for those they have not If you do not include these then this is the Paraphrase They may be true Believers and penitent and love God and Man sincerely and be Members of Christ and have his Spirit and one Baptism and one true hope of Heaven and the pardon of sin and yet be Rebels and damned for want of somewhat ese which I call Unity Peace and Catholick Communion I think you mean subjection to such as you in all your Canonical Impositions In short the plain truth of this Case I before opened viz. When disobedience to true Church-â—astors proveth tâ— be as Adultery and Murder sins signifying such Predominance of the Flesh and absence of Divine Faith and Love as is inconsistent with 〈◊〉 then it is damning as other grâ—ss and reigning sin is But else it â—uts not off from Christ and if the Prelates pretend to cut off such they are liker to cut off themselves § 33 His rare distinction he fullier openeth which is Between the Visible Church and the one true Catholick Visible Church The Visible Church comprehends all Societies of professed Christians Hereticks Idolaters or whatever they be Tâ—e one true Catholick Church 〈◊〉 not Ans. I have answered this before It 's well the distinction is not commonly observed as the Coyner saith for it would be a common abuse Hitherto we have known but one Universal Church considered as Mystical in Believers or Visible in Prosessors of the same and not another Faith Profest Idolaters or Hereticks that deny the Essential are no Members of it as Visible But this Doctor hath forged an One true Catholick Church less than the Visible and yet Visible Could he have spoken sence he would but have said The Universal Visible Church hath some Members that are sound orderly and peaceable and some that are erroneous disorderly and unruly even as it hath some holy and some Adulterers Thieves and Persecutors In a great house are some Vessels of Earth to dishonour § 34. I fear if I should survey but half the confused passages of this book I should tire the Reader as well as my self I will be briefer with the rest P. 94 95 c. He giveth us an allay against the tenor of his Excommunications and Damnations to shew that he is not so uncharitable as he seems to be and that his Canon that maketh so great a noise hath but Powder without Bullet I look he should say I misunderstand him and therefore I will not tell you his meaning but the sum of his words viz. p. 87. to shew us why Those that believe in Christ repent of their sins and lead an holy life in all godliness and honesty may yet be excluded from all the ordinary means of salvation He first blames them that in these days have thought Holiness so sufficient and would cheat his Reader by citing Austin as of that mind who hath no mention in the words which he cites of Faith Holiness Love to God or to his Saints or Service but only a Catalogue of such Virtues as Heathens or â—nfidels plead for viz. Chastity Continence not coveâ—â—us not serving Idols not contentious patient quiet emulating and envying none sober frugal But yet an Heretick who is without the Christian Faith and Love so far is he from including these in his Description But no doubt he will have some Readers that will swallow all such Hooks as these Then supposing men have no Love that communicate not on his terms nor love the Peace and Unity of the Church unless they joyn in such Principles as his that would destroy it he tells us truly that Heaven is only the Gift of Christ as merited by him and therefore can be had only on his terms and that is only in Communion with his Church and by his Sacraments Ans. And what Christ's Terms are he hath told us Mark 16.16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved John 3.16 Whoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life c. The Whole Gospel is a Charter of salvation to all that have true Faith Hope Love and Holiness And all such are in the Church of Christ. 2. And as ordinarily doth the Scripture tell us that the preaching of the Gospel is the means of faith and holiness by which God saveth them that believe and that by the hearing of faith preached the spirit is given Gal. 3.2 c. Rom. 10.14 17. John 5.24 Acts 18.8 Acts 10.44 The holy ghost fell on all them that heard the word before they were baptized even the miraculous gift of the Spirit Matth. 13.18 Mark 4.20 Luke 8.13 21. and 11.28 Christ himself preached but did not baptize He sent forth his Disciples to convert men by preaching Matth. 10.7 and 11.1 Mark 1.38 and 3.14 Luke 4.18 19 43. and 9.2 60. Acts 5.42 and 10.42 and 8.5 25 35 40. and 9.20 1 Tim. 3.16 1 Cor. 1.17 Paul saith he was not sent to baptize but to preach the Gospel John 15.3 Ye are clean through the word c. John 6.63 The words that I speak unto you they are spirit and life John 17. Sanctifie them through thy truth thy word is truth 6.68 and 8.30 2 Cor. 5.19 20. 1 Tim. 5.17 and 1.2 John 4.2 It is able to save souls James 1.21 1 Pet. 2.2 John 8.31 Heb. 4.12 It is able to make us wise to salvation It is by the word of God that men are born again as an incorruptible seed 1 Pet. 1.23 It is that abiding in us that is our continued life 1 Iohn 2.14 There is no mention in Scripture of any one that was converted and made a Believer by Baptism or the Lord's Supper The Adult were all to repent and believe before they were baptized and God promised them forgiveness thereupon He never bid men baptize Infidels nor graceless men Baptism was but the publick solemnizing of the Covenant which they consented to before and the solemn investing them in that relation to which they were before entered And entring them by Baptism stated them in the Universal Church before ever they were setled under any particular Pastor in a particular Church as the case of the Eunuch Acts 8. shews But that which I call his Allay is that he copiously tells us that Heaven is a supernatural state of happiness and not the natural reward of an eartly creature p. 92 93. It is but an earthly happiness that Nature was made for and was promised to Adam in Paradise an immortal life on Earth An immortal life after death cannot be the natural Reward Innocent flesh is flesh Were it not for Heaven
men for the Ministry that had the extemporate gifts of Prayer and Preaching 2. And you confess that each Church had then many Elders for oversight besides those that laboured in the Word and Doctrine Do you believe that all these had such extemporate gifts of utterance Or that these might not on occasion Pray and Preach 3. If Parents teach Children necessarily to Pray in a prescribed form of words without designing to defeat Christ or his Spirit but to subserve them how can you tell but the first prescribers of publick forms did mean as well when they found few persons able to do so well without and abundance of Hereticks ready to corrupt Gods Worship with their Errors 4. Let it be soberly considered Whether mens long and hard Study for all the words which they write in Books and for their Sermons be done to defeat Christ and his Spirit or to subserve them And why the use of words studied by others and weighed by us before we utter them should defeat the Spirit any more than words premeditated by our selves Or at least is not the Spirit as much defeated in the People that joyn who ever prepareth the words For they do not themselves put them up by their gift of utterance And its impossible when you speak for the people to know whether those words were before studied and whether by your self or by another from whom you borrowed them I have heard Mr. Ph. Nye wish that some men were sent into Wales and other such places with an injunction to read good Sermon Books to the people such as Dr. Prestons Sibbs c. was this spoken to defeat the Spirit or to serve him D. O. 1. A total neglect of all gifts of the Holy Ghost in the Administration of Church-worship and Ordinances § 14. THe first Consequence is an untruth No doubt but Liturgies were abused to cherish Ignorance and Negligence XXVII Error But that the neglect was total is not true whether you respect all the Churches or all the parts of Worship and Ordinances 1. The many holy and excellent Men whose fame and writings are transmitted to us did not totally neglect all gifts of the Holy Ghost Were all the great Volumes of Sermons preached and written by Chrysostome without any gift of the Holy Ghost Or was Preaching no Ordinance Were all Augustine's elaborate Volumes done without him Or all Cyprian's Macarius Ephrem Syrus Basil's Gregory's yea or Bernard's Homilies and Works 2. Are the gifts of Holy Desire Faith Hope Repentance no gifts of the Holy Ghost Or can you prove that these were all totally neglected in the administration of Church-worship 3. It 's known thar in the Exercise of Discipline which is a Church-Ordinance and in Catechizing and Preaching they were not tied only to a form of words no nor in all Confession Prayer and Thanksgiving 4. It 's a great blow to the Universal Church to say That it totally neglected all the gifts of the Holy Ghost D. O. 2. When a Plea for the Work of the Holy Ghost began to be revived it produced all the enmity hatred and contempt of and against the Spirit of God himself and his whole Work in the Church which the World is now filled withal § 15. THat word his whole work in the Church is another mis-report XXVIII Error It is not his whole work that is so contemned A man may preach for Mercy to the Poor for Obedience to Authority for Love c. and he may sing Psalms of Praise and pray for Pardon and for Kings and Magistrates and for daily Bread and may profess to believe the Creed and Scripture c. without the contempt which you describe But no doubt but Malignity will take advantage of Liturgies and of almost any thing and so hath still done All is not unlawful which bad men abuse What is more turned against Christ in the world abroad than his Two great Ordinances of Magistracy and Ministry What more abused to strife than the Sacrament of Love Union and Communion Are all these therefore unlawful And it 's a palpable Mistake That the foresaid scorn of all done by the Spirit ariseth from hence alone XXIX Error a justification of the devised way of Worship It ariseth more from a malignant enmity to serious godliness and from worldly interests and designs and from the slanders of Seducers that accuse good men and too much from the miscarriages of many that have boasted most of the Spirit as Quakers Ranters Familists c. do And Experience confuteth you For all those Countries that make but little use of Liturgies have yet malignant parties that hate and oppose spiritual serious Exercises of Religion D. O. All the Reproaches that are daily cast upon the Spirit of Prayer all the concontempt and scâ—rn which all Duties of religious Worship performed by his aid and assistance are entertained withal ariseth from hence alone namely a justification of this devised way of Worship as the only true way and means thereof Take this away and the wrath and anger of men against the Spirit of God and his wâ—rk in the Worship of the Church will be abated yea the necessity of them will be evident Tâ—is we cannot comply with lest we approve the original design of it and partake in the sins which proceed from it § 16. BEcause you lay the main stress of your Cause on History and Experience you constrain me to add some more History which I had rather have past by But if I set not Experience against Experience I shall leave abundance unto the danger of error who can judg by little else than Experience and that see and feel what 's present and forget what is long past and gone The Truth I have opened in my Christian Directory that both ways are liable to great abuse and all humane actions have their inconveniences The benefits of a sound Liturgy are 1. To keep out Heresie and ill words from publick worship 2. To be a help to men of unready utterance 3. That the people may know before-hand what they joyn in The inconveniences are 1. The dulling of Affection in hearing still the same words 2. The tempting of slothful worldly Candidates and Ministers to learn no other way of praying when this will serve all their worldly turns But I must add That this followeth not the imposing of a Liturgy but the exclusion of other Prayer and taking up with this alone 2. The conveniences of praying from an habit are 1. A just variation as Occasions vary 2. Help to fresh Affection 3. Forcing Ministers to get ability for utterance The inconveniences are 1. That the people know not till the words are past whether they may own them and so hardly try all and follow with just consent 2. That abundance of young raw unskilful men do ordinarily disgrace Prayer by their unskilful methods and expressions 3. That Hereticks and erroneous men have great opportunity to put their sins into their
and all Ministers belong to his Worship and yet Christ hath not in Scripture named you but left the Choice of you to Man So of all Accidents undetermined It is another Error That the Prescription of Forms and Modes of things in Worship XXXV Error not commanded by Christ can arise from nothing but from Supposition of a defect in the Wisdom care and faithfulness of Christ. I confute it 1. You know not the hearts of all the World and therefore cannot say That this can arise from nothing else Did you know Ambrose that made the Te Deum and all that made and prescribed Psalms Hymns and Prayers and Calvin that made a Liturgy and Bucer and the Martyrs here and all that prescribed Translations and Metres c. so well as to know that all these and almost all the Churches on Earth do suppose Christ to be unfaithful 2. Is it only such a charge or Supposition against Christ which made you your self prescribe your form of Church-Covenant your Savoy Articles your Catalogue of Fundamentals your Lay-Elders your time and place of Meeting your Utensils and Ornaments at the Sacraments c 3. I tell you another possible end They did it because they thought that these Modes are mutable according to Persons Place Time Occasion c. And therfore that it belonged not to Christs faithfulness to detemine them and that they should deny his faithfulness if they did deny that it hath left them to humane Determination under general Rules and bid the people obey them that have the rule over you c. D. O. 5. Argument That which is a means humanely invented for the attaining of an end in Divine Worship which Christ hath ordained a means for unto the exclusion of that means so appointed by Christ is false Worship and not to be complied withal The end intended is the Edification of the Church in the Administration of all its holy Ordinances this the Service-book is ordained and appointed by men for or it hath no end or use at all but the Lord Christ hath appointed other means for the attaining this end as is expresly declared He has given gifts unto men for the work of the Ministry for the edifying of the Body Ephes. 4.7 8 11 12. that is in all Gospel Administrations But this means ordained by Christ namely the exercise of spiritual gifts in Gospel Administrations unto the Edification of the Church is excluded yea expresly prohibited in the Prescription of this Liturgical Worship § 19. TO the Major of your 5 th Argument I answer As to the former No man is to comply by Approbation with any thing that excludeth any of Gods means for instance not with you that exclude the great duty of Catholick Communion But we may so far comply with you and others as to joyn with you in Gods Worship tho you mix some evil Mr. Faldo at Barnet was fain many years to Preach to a people that excluded singing Psalms He did what they would bear when he could not do what he would He complied not by Approbation with exclusion for he spake against it Are you sure that all your ways have tended to the Edification of the Church Every weak Minister that preacheth or prayeth when an abler might be had hindereth the Edification of the Church Is it a Sin therefore to hear any but the ablest 2. That which hindereth the Churches Edification by the Rulers fault it may be the Peoples duty to obey for a greater good For instance â—t is less edifying to use our old singing Psalms than a better Version And yet for Concord if the Ruler appoint them the People must use them because Concord with that imperfection is better than to sing every one a several better Version or divers at once so a faulty Translation of Scripture a weak Sermon an inconvenient hour and place when Concord is necessary and cannot be had in the more edifying circumstances it must be had in the best way we can If the Sheriff appoint an unfit time and place to meet to chuse Parliament-men it 's a duty to comply rather than not to meet at all every evil so far excludeth good And yet we must not renounce Communion in all good where men mix any evil left we also give over all good our selves 3. Christ giveth gifts to men now in the due use of means and not by miracle Therefore he giveth them in great diversity and by hard Study and long Time Heb. 5. For the time they ought to have been teachers c. Therefore a Novice must not be a Bishop but an Elder whence the Office had its name All your pupils people or Ministers that had the Spirits gifts had not your redundancy of Expression And many can talk more fluently for falshood than good men can for truth I was never much troubled my self for want of words to express what I know but I have ten thousand times more beg'd hard for more Knowledg Faith Love and Hope than ever I did for the gift of utterance a full heart is earnest fervent and ready It is another mistake That the exercise of Spiritual gifts is expresly forbidden XXXVI Error unless you had meant that just at the use of the Litutgy extemporate utterance is forbidden but it is not so in the Pulpit And you should not confound things so different as is the use of the Liturgy and the forbidding of other prayers Nor yet the act of the Commander and of the People If Rulers should command Preaching Prayer c. to exclude the singing Psalms that is their Sin and not the Peoples who must not like peevish Children at meat refuse all because they cannot have what they would D. O. The pretence of mens liberty to use their Gifts in Prayer before Sermons and in Preaching is ridiculous they are excluded in all the solemn Worship of the Church § 20. THis answer is not only a mistake but of an ill aspect on your selves XXXVII Error It 's not true That the use of Gifts is excludeded in all the solemn Worship of the Church As if Prayer Praise Thanksgiving Confession Explication of the Scripture Reproof Exhortation Comfort Direction Benediction were no part of the solemn Worship of the Church Indeed some Superconformists have said so but I had hoped you would not 2. I said It 's of an ill aspect For 1. If Preaching and Pulpit-Prayer before and after be none of the solemn Worship of the Churches then all those Churches which seldom use any other saving a Psalm which is a Liturgick form have no solemn Worship at all 2. But if it be otherwise as it is then the Parish Churches so far excel most of you that they have all that you have Pulpit Prayer and Sermon and sometimes a Chapter and all the Common Prayer more And is not that better than your nothing except at Sacraments I know that the Nonconformists that I have converst with are in judgment for more
not Hereticks with Exceptions That they may yet possibly be saved Christians But those that I confute charging the whole Church on Earth for 1200. years with Idolatry or false Worship which God accepteth not and none may communicate therein do thereby call all men to come out from among them and be separate and to hate them with that hatred which is due to Idolaters and to afford them no other love than is due to Idolaters or men that we must renounce Communion with I write therefore but as a Defendant of Love and Unity and the Catholick Church and the Communion of Saintâ— and the Souls of Thousands young ignorant persons that being justly afraid of sin and Idolatry and Damnation are aâ—frightned from Christian Love and Unity and Forbearance into the Wilderness of sinful Divisions and Confusions by these false frightful Names As I renounce all Canons that ipso facto exccommunicate men for being against humane unnecessary Formalities Offices yea and Corruptions So do I for the same Reasons renounce them that at one blow woâ—ld cut off all Christ's Churches on Earth or renounce Communion with them if they have but really or conceitedly such Corruptions and Defects Yea I maintain in the First Part That such faulty seâ—arating from one another is not a separation of them all from Christ when they see not the Consequences of their own Errors and man on Earth is in so great darkness that we all swarm with multitudes of Errors Now Reader if opposing all this be not Peace-making I know not what is And if the Peace-makers be the Incendiaries for confuting the Excommunicators and to be taken for the Enemies of Peace for breaking Satan's factious Peace breaking Peace Christ was mistaken that calleth them blessed And if the Zeal of the Sects which inclineth men to speak evil of such Peace makers as Troublers of the Church be the Wisdom from above why did Christ call such the Children of God O that men would often read over Rom. 14 and 15. 1 Cor. 12. and Iames 3. with â—hil 2. The â—lain Consequents of the Cause which I confute are these which I charge on the ill Cause and not on the honest ignorant men that see them not 1. That is is unlawful to communicate with almost any Church on Earth 2. That Christ having no Church for 1200. years was no Head of it and so no Christ. 3 That men must covenant to disobey Rulers or Pastors if they bid them kneel be uncovered or any of the oft named Accidents and manner of Worship And Children must dâ—sobey Parents that command them a Form of Prayer Psalm or Catechism 4. The Scots Covenant and Independent Covenant Catalogue of Fundamentals c. are made Idolatry 5. The contrary Extream is encourag'd To charge all this falsly on the Nonconformists if we confute it not 6. The Nonconformists that 1660 1661. attempted Concord by reforming the Liturgy are made Idolaters or their Communion unlawful c. II. And whereas my Writing is judged unseasonable by some that own the Cause â— write for 1. â—t never will be so seasonable as to be liable to no inconveniencies or great abuse nor hath been this Three and Twenty years 2. It is when the Universaâ— Non-Communion is maintained in Print by many and more dangerously by an excellent man in Writing and multitudes by these drawn into the sin 3. And when thousands are possest with a false Opinion that the Nonconformists commonly are of these Opinions and are to be hated and destroyed our silence seeming to them to own them 4. And when by 20 years forbearing publick Communion tho commanded and persecuted for it our hearers are brought confidently to believe that we all this while took it for unlawful and that if any now say otherwise it is but cowardly backsliding 5. It is when the Papists assaults of us and of honest Conformists as Trimmers maketh it necessary to unite and encourage all honest men That we fall not all into Roman snares and not to bid all Christians forsake all such honest Parish-Ministers 6. It is at a time when thousands are in danger of being ruined for mistake and thousands to be drawn from all Church-Worship when they can have no other than in Parish Churches 7. It is when we are in danger of transmitting this dividing Error to posterity by suffering for it as for the cause of God 8. It is when other Ministers do it not and therefore some one must And I that have no great impediment from friends or outward temptations but wait for my change am fitter to bear the noise of Censures than they that I hope may labour longer 9. And if I do it it must be now or never For there is no work in the Grave and Darkness But of all this my Reasons say more III. As to the Manner of my writings I doubt not but all that ever I wrote are faulty I am imperfect and can do nothing perfectly I herein suspect this and all my self and which is worst I have not skill enough on the longest consideration to avoid the faultiness For I have a strong love to Truth and hatred of Lying and specially a love to historical Truth and hatred to the deceiving of the World and Posterity And I have a diseased Impatience above any ordinary Tryal to hear men rage and be confident in Error and pour out words for untruths with unconvincible Fallacy and speak evil most zealously of that Truth which they least understand And in this Impatience I am apt to fit my Confutations to the Cause taking words to be false that are not to be adapted to the Matter But when I have done the guilty yea and their favourers cannot bear them and the words fit not the hearer which fit the Matter but the Disease is exasperated by the Medicine But then I think what 's needful to save those that are not yet infected and to silence reproaching Enemies tho the guilt be not cured As to this writing it grieved me to write a Defence against Mr. Ralphson in Prison and more when I heard that he was dead But I knew no other means suitable against a printed Temptation and Accusation but a printed Antidote and Defence Mr. Warner hath since printed a further Accusation with the same charge of Idolatry and false Worship against all the Manner of Worship not instituted and gives no Answer to my Confutation of it in Mr. Ralphsâ—n and said so little that I will not write for him that cannot himself confute him The Twelve Arguments I understand are likest to prevail most by the honour of Dr. Owens name more than by any strength that is in them I was willing as long as I could to believe that they were not his they being as fallacious and frivolous as any of the rest and one Error managed with above forty Mistakes But when his own Friends that have more of his on the same Subject chiding me for Answering them