so_o govern_v still_o whereunto_o i_o answer_v according_a to_o the_o evident_a light_n of_o truth_n that_o the_o presbyter_n govern_v the_o church_n as_o under_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o but_o for_o a_o time_n until_o the_o apostle_n substitute_v bb._n or_o leave_v they_o as_o their_o successor_n commit_v the_o government_n of_o the_o several_a church_n unto_o they_o to_o the_o second_o part_n of_o his_o assumption_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o apostle_n contradict_v that_o government_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o by_o common_a counsel_n of_o elder_n rule_v without_o a_o b._n not_o so_o much_o by_o word_n as_o by_o deed_n when_o ordain_v bb._n in_o several_a church_n they_o commit_v the_o whole_a care_n thereof_o as_o jerome_n 1._o speak_v or_o at_o least_o the_o chief_a care_n and_o authority_n as_o ignatius_n trall_n testify_v to_o they_o and_o so_o leave_v the_o refuter_fw-la to_o roll_v the_o stone_n he_o speak_v of_o i_o proceed_v to_o my_o three_o argument_n the_o iii_o 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parish_n be_v it_o credible_a that_o any_o man_n shall_v be_v so_o transport_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o contradiction_n as_o that_o he_o shall_v not_o care_v so_o he_o may_v gainsay_v his_o adversary_n present_a assertion_n how_o shameful_o he_o contradict_v himself_o yet_o thus_o it_o fare_v with_o our_o refuter_fw-la in_o oppugn_v the_o proposition_n he_o say_v and_o labour_v to_o prove_v it_o that_o each_o church_n be_v but_o one_o parish_n the_o same_o he_o say_v and_o say_v again_o in_o defend_v their_o objection_n &_o propound_v his_o own_o only_a argument_n and_o yet_o here_o this_o assumption_n must_v be_v censure_v as_o have_v no_o truth_n in_o it_o for_o that_o it_o deny_v parish_n to_o have_v be_v distinguish_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o the_o presbyter_n to_o have_v be_v assign_v to_o their_o several_a title_n or_o cure_n they_o be_v his_o word_n in_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o assumption_n and_o the_o same_o he_o repeat_v pag._n 71._o but_o 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yield_v there_o be_v provincial_a church_n than_o i_o must_v confess_v there_o be_v no_o diocesan_n or_o if_o i_o will_v needs_o hold_v there_o be_v diocesan_n church_n than_o i_o overthrow_v the_o provincial_a so_o that_o what_o may_v soever_o we_o look_v say_v he_o i_o see_v nothing_o against_o we_o but_o all_o for_o us._n thus_o have_v he_o bring_v himself_o into_o a_o fool_n paradise_n where_o i_o leave_v he_o to_o feed_v upon_o his_o own_o fancy_n and_o to_o solace_v himself_o with_o the_o conceit_n of_o his_o imagine_a conquest_n chap._n vii_o prove_v the_o three_o point_n of_o the_o sermon_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v diocesan_n bishop_n serm._n sect_n 1._o now_o these_o presbytery_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n as_o the_o presbyterian_o confess_v have_v etc._n etc._n ad_fw-la lin_v a_o fine_a 4._o the_o refuter_fw-la have_v acquit_v himself_o in_o his_o own_o conceit_n so_o valiant_o and_o victorious_o in_o subvert_v my_o former_a assertion_n 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