give_v sometime_o to_o private_a man_n admonishment_n and_o exhortation_n say_v thereupon_o cohortatoriè_fw-la as_o luther_n observe_v he_o and_o the_o other_o learned_a father_n to_o speak_v many_o time_n ligasti_fw-la aut_fw-la soluisti_fw-la fratrem_fw-la yet_o be_v this_o no_o whit_n of_o this_o nature_n and_o kind_n whereof_o we_o entreat_v this_o be_v a_o exhortation_n or_o counsel_n and_o a_o common_a work_n of_o charity_n belong_v to_o all_o christian_n the_o other_o a_o judgement_n or_o a_o solemn_a and_o peculiar_a judicial_a proceed_n perform_v always_o by_o god_n minister_n only_o and_o lieutenant_n in_o this_o behalf_n wherein_o god_n deal_v by_o they_o as_o a_o king_n do_v by_o his_o judge_n and_o other_o immediate_a officer_n for_o any_o state_n occasion_n wherein_o although_o many_o have_v skill_n and_o can_v give_v counsel_n and_o aducie_a yet_o be_v no_o charter_n quoadius_n as_o we_o say_v pardon_v or_o judgement_n whatsoever_o of_o validity_n and_o force_n to_o carry_v or_o confirm_v any_o thing_n for_o or_o against_o any_o except_o they_o be_v pronounce_v or_o otherwise_o seal_v and_o warrant_v by_o those_o who_o be_v call_v and_o design_v to_o represent_v and_o supply_v the_o king_n place_n and_o person_n in_o any_o of_o the_o same_o and_o thus_o much_o brief_o of_o this_o first_o kind_n of_o excommunication_n which_o respect_v indifferent_o all_o kind_n of_o people_n that_o have_v soul_n to_o be_v save_v and_o may_v yea_o ought_v to_o be_v exercise_v in_o all_o place_n where_o any_o true_a minister_n be_v find_v albeit_o there_o be_v no_o order_n or_o power_n establish_v according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n or_o other_o order_a government_n whatsoever_o for_o so_o be_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o other_o excommunication_n which_o we_o make_v to_o be_v from_o the_o visible_a church_n wherein_o always_o be_v require_v some_o company_n live_v under_o form_n of_o outward_a government_n by_o which_o law_n may_v be_v make_v and_o enact_v for_o this_o or_o at_o the_o least_o some_o other_o kind_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o same_o for_o so_o saint_n paul_n speak_v of_o a_o company_n to_o be_v gather_v together_o as_o from_o which_o that_o incestuous_a person_n be_v to_o be_v remove_v by_o his_o own_o censure_n which_o also_o may_v appear_v by_o all_o other_o such_o separation_n which_o ever_o have_v be_v read_v of_o or_o be_v as_o yet_o practise_v in_o the_o world_n wherein_o by_o some_o kind_n of_o power_n establish_v among_o some_o company_n live_v under_o government_n be_v it_o of_o one_o kind_n or_o other_o certain_a person_n have_v be_v exclude_v oftentimes_o according_a to_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o governor_n thereof_o from_o the_o face_n and_o fellowship_n of_o some_o visible_a church_n which_o also_o according_a to_o the_o cause_n and_o diverse_a kind_n of_o operation_n and_o proceed_v by_o or_o against_o any_o this_o kind_n of_o excommunication_n must_v again_o be_v divide_v into_o that_o which_o by_o violence_n without_o cause_n and_o against_o all_o order_n and_o reason_n be_v oftentimes_o denounce_v and_o that_o which_o upon_o just_a cause_n or_o by_o some_o kind_n of_o order_n at_o the_o least_o be_v commence_v and_o execute_v for_o the_o separation_n of_o any_o from_o the_o visible_a church_n the_o first_o whereof_o may_v be_v call_v excommunicatio_fw-la violentiae_fw-la such_o as_o be_v exercise_v by_o tyrant_n against_o many_o a_o true_a member_n both_o of_o the_o visible_a and_o invisible_a church_n the_o other_o not_o unfitl_n term_v excommunicatio_fw-la ordinis_fw-la in_o which_o by_o some_o orderly_a proceed_n and_o under_o some_o course_n of_o law_n and_o constitution_n just_a or_o unjust_a any_o be_v remove_v from_o any_o such_o company_n and_o privilege_n belong_v thereunto_o which_o also_o be_v as_o all_o judgement_n be_v as_o the_o school_n distinguish_v they_o usurp_a or_o defile_v and_o taint_v with_o some_o in_o justice_n and_o wrong_n or_o else_o direct_a and_o regulate_v according_a to_o truth_n and_o equity_n so_o likewise_o be_v this_o excommunicatio_fw-la ordinis_fw-la whereby_o good_a jeremie_n and_o our_o saviour_n christ_n himself_o john_n 7._o be_v by_o such_o order_n as_o those_o time_n do_v afford_v abstente_n as_o the_o word_n in_o jeremie_n import_v and_o debar_v at_o the_o least_o from_o many_o privilege_n of_o that_o church_n and_o time_n as_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v by_o erastus_n his_o own_o acception_n or_o any_o other_o signify_v as_o well_o as_o that_o incestuous_a person_n most_o justly_o by_o paul_n from_o the_o company_n and_o privilege_n of_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n but_o to_o tie_v ourselves_o to_o that_o excommunication_n which_o by_o good_a order_n and_o upon_o just_a and_o necessary_a cause_n be_v always_o award_v rest_v in_o the_o hand_n &_o power_n of_o every_o true_a church_n and_o company_n gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n to_o profess_v his_o name_n and_o service_n that_o also_o have_v it_o difference_n and_o distinction_n for_o so_o by_o the_o school_n and_o kanon_n many_o such_o have_v be_v invent_v whereof_o that_o of_o excommunicatio_fw-la maior_fw-la &_o minor_fw-la the_o great_a and_o the_o less_o may_v very_o well_o fit_a our_o purpose_n according_a to_o the_o use_n of_o this_o great_a censure_n by_o all_o christian_a church_n in_o the_o world_n which_o upon_o the_o assistance_n at_o the_o last_o of_o christian_a magistracy_n and_o by_o their_o own_o special_a decree_n and_o constitution_n thereabouts_o have_v extend_v the_o power_n of_o this_o censure_n to_o the_o debar_v of_o those_o that_o be_v separate_v thereby_o from_o many_o common_a privilege_n whereof_o the_o civil_a estate_n make_v they_o otherwise_o partaker_n as_o appear_v by_o many_o civil_a constitution_n and_o statute_n law_n in_o force_n at_o this_o present_a among_o we_o de_fw-fr excommunicato_fw-la capiendo_fw-la and_o such_o like_a to_o that_o purpose_n for_o which_o cause_n this_o excommunication_n by_o order_n as_o we_o have_v term_v it_o for_o the_o better_a set_v down_o the_o true_a nature_n of_o it_o must_v once_o again_o be_v divide_v into_o that_o which_o be_v mere_o ecclesiastical_a as_o proceed_v only_o and_o whole_o from_o that_o power_n of_o the_o key_n which_o be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n for_o the_o roll_a and_o save_v of_o soul_n or_o else_o into_o that_o which_o be_v civil_a abusive_o so_o call_v and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o we_o say_v or_o last_o partly_o ecclesiastical_a and_o partly_o civil_a according_a to_o which_o be_v most_o proceed_n therein_o for_o the_o outward_a government_n of_o any_o church_n at_o this_o day_n that_o which_o be_v call_v ecclesiastical_a be_v so_o whole_o estate_v in_o the_o person_n of_o church_n governor_n as_o that_o if_o there_o be_v no_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o the_o world_n yet_o will_v and_o ought_v they_o to_o claim_v and_o show_v their_o authority_n and_o power_n if_o according_a to_o the_o true_a end_n and_o use_v thereof_o hereafter_o more_o particular_o to_o be_v set_v down_o the_o church_n shall_v judge_v it_o fit_a or_o necessary_a so_o to_o be_v award_v discipline_n author_n of_o late_a assertion_n for_o church_n discipline_n and_o no_o civil_a power_n have_v any_o more_o to_o do_v with_o it_o than_o as_o the_o late_a exceptor_n and_o pleader_n himself_o against_o many_o thing_n therein_o confess_v and_o prove_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o bishop_n horn_n and_o doctor_n bilson_n both_o reverend_a father_n of_o one_o sea_n in_o our_o church_n it_o have_v to_o do_v with_o make_v minister_n consecrate_v church_n immediate_a make_n of_o church_n canon_n for_o doctrine_n &_o case_n of_o conscience_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o such_o like_a reign_v in_o the_o preface_v to_o certain_a injunction_n make_v in_o henry_n 8._o and_o elizabeth_z their_z reign_v which_o some_o prince_n of_o this_o kingdom_n and_o all_o other_o wise_o possess_v with_o the_o truth_n of_o these_o matter_n have_v evermore_o disclaim_v howbeit_o for_o the_o other_o which_o concern_v first_o the_o body_n and_o outward_a estate_n and_o condition_n whatsoever_o of_o any_o and_o secondary_o and_o consequent_o the_o soul_n and_o inward_a man_n and_o so_o also_o respect_v for_o the_o most_o part_n the_o outward_a peace_n of_o the_o common_a state_n both_o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a they_o all_o must_v have_v their_o consideration_n determination_n and_o proper_a place_n according_o as_o proceed_v first_o from_o civil_a power_n may_v be_v intend_v or_o remit_v continue_v suspend_v or_o change_v and_o sometime_o exercise_v or_o inhibit_v by_o civil_a magistrate_n sovereign_a or_o subordinate_a of_o which_o sort_n i_o make_v all_o temporal_a punishment_n commutation_n of_o penance_n outward_a shame_n and_o all_o other_o bodily_a affliction_n whereof_o notwithstanding_o that_o of_o be_v give_v over_o to_o satan_n some_o have_v make_v one_o father_n erastus_n out_o of_o some_o
forsooth_o call_v christ_n his_o lore_n and_o yoke_n unto_o which_o all_o christ_n his_o true_a member_n must_v submit_v themselves_o which_o indeed_o be_v no_o other_o especial_o as_o they_o mean_v it_o for_o this_o point_n and_o argument_n which_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n but_o the_o new_a fangle_a device_n of_o their_o own_o discontent_a and_o ambitious_a spirit_n as_o in_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o first_o objection_n which_o now_o follow_v shall_v better_o and_o more_o full_o i_o hope_v appear_v for_o under_o that_o more_o large_a question_n touch_v the_o original_n and_o due_a bound_n of_o excommunication_n come_v another_o more_o special_a and_o subordinate_a very_o much_o urge_v and_o delight_v in_o by_o many_o how_o far_o prince_n themselves_o be_v subject_a to_o this_o censure_n or_o any_o other_o person_n or_o person_n or_o whole_a state_n sometime_o of_o like_a condition_n quality_n and_o consideration_n the_o which_o be_v diverse_o propound_v and_o intend_v by_o these_o two_o late_a pleader_n the_o one_o exempt_n prince_n altogether_o from_o all_o and_o every_o part_n as_o it_o seem_v of_o this_o excommunication_n as_o may_v be_v gather_v by_o his_o own_o word_n the_o other_o urge_v especial_o herein_o the_o abuse_n of_o it_o in_o his_o conceit_n by_o some_o 52._o nichols_n in_o his_o plea_n for_o innocent_n pag._n 51._o &_o 52._o to_o who_o which_o he_o so_o much_o mislike_v that_o be_v impropriate_v which_o in_o his_o judgement_n shall_v be_v common_a to_o all_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o that_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o be_v observe_v by_o a_o grave_a counsellor_n of_o our_o state_n by_o that_o which_o be_v put_v up_o in_o petition_n sometime_o by_o those_o innocent_n his_o client_n that_o by_o their_o rule_n the_o pastor_n of_o greenwich_n may_v excommunicate_v queen_n elizabeth_n so_o worthy_o famous_a throughout_o the_o world_n in_o those_o day_n and_o indeed_o be_v never_o agree_v upon_o by_o those_o new_a doctor_n themselves_o nor_o scarce_o any_o other_o of_o late_a time_n it_o may_v be_v allow_v very_o worthy_a our_o pain_n to_o inquire_v further_o into_o it_o 327_o author_n of_o the_o assertion_n for_o true_a and_o christian_a chruch-policy_n pag._n 327_o albeit_o we_o come_v short_a of_o any_o full_a conclusion_n or_o final_a determination_n of_o the_o same_o the_o rather_o for_o that_o our_o lawyer_n like_o exceptor_n over_o carry_v with_o malice_n and_o desire_n to_o charge_v our_o bishop_n with_o some_o foul_a and_o great_a imputation_n thereupon_o seem_v to_o have_v forget_v the_o first_o principle_n of_o their_o common_a profession_n herein_o or_o at_o the_o least_o forsake_a the_o grave_a judgement_n of_o their_o renown_a master_n and_o founder_n of_o their_o new_a discipline_n cry_v out_o very_o loud_o and_o challenge_v all_o confident_o in_o this_o manner_n who_o and_o where_o they_o be_v of_o their_o opinion_n and_o faction_n which_o hold_v that_o prince_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v whereas_o beside_o the_o general_a opinion_n of_o they_o all_o display_v in_o the_o petition_n abovesayde_v and_o discern_v by_o that_o honourable_a counsellor_n and_o elsewhere_o express_v in_o their_o disciplinarian_a assertion_n apologetical_a writing_n and_o conclusion_n mieldman_n sir_n walter_n mieldman_n that_o their_o oracle_n may_v speak_v as_o the_o mouth_n of_o they_o all_o what_o their_o judgement_n and_o desire_n be_v for_o this_o question_n whitguift_n master_n cartwright_n part_v 2._o reply_v pag._n 65._o bishop_n whitguift_n who_o little_o regard_v the_o troublesomnesse_n of_o those_o time_n wherein_o that_o worthy_a prelate_n sit_v at_o the_o stern_a of_o our_o ecclesiastical_a government_n and_o less_o discern_v as_o it_o may_v seem_v the_o mystery_n of_o any_o such_o politic_a administration_n and_o particular_n belong_v to_o so_o weighty_a a_o censure_n &_o proceed_n especial_o against_o such_o person_n as_o prince_n be_v &c_n &c_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o term_v the_o lord_n archbishop_n of_o caunterbury_n then_o be_v supra_fw-la pag._n 92._o ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la as_o the_o bawd_n to_o prince_n &_o other_o great_a magistrate_n sin_n in_o case_n they_o be_v not_o excommunicate_v as_o his_o wisdom_n with_o the_o senate_n of_o his_o associate_n do_v judge_v oftentimes_o meet_a and_o necessary_a 75._o demonstration_n of_o discipline_n pag._n 75._o and_o another_o add_v further_a in_o this_o point_n that_o prince_n must_v not_o be_v flatter_v in_o their_o sin_n and_o therefore_o this_o censure_n must_v be_v inflict_v upon_o they_o as_o well_o as_o upon_o any_o other_o but_o leave_v they_o to_o themselves_o i_o thus_o answer_v to_o the_o particular_n of_o this_o objection_n as_o they_o glance_v and_o glide_v on_o both_o side_n of_o this_o excommunication_n and_o be_v direct_v by_o the_o former_a exceptor_n and_o many_o other_o against_o the_o truth_n and_o nature_n of_o the_o same_o first_o that_o as_o for_o that_o excommunication_n from_o the_o invisible_a church_n whereby_o any_o minister_n pronounce_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n of_o any_o to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n or_o otherwise_o it_o and_o all_o the_o part_n and_o degree_n of_o it_o agree_v as_o well_o to_o the_o prince_n and_o any_o other_o such_o like_a person_n or_o state_n as_o to_o any_o other_o that_o have_v a_o soul_n to_o save_v and_o so_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o faith_n repentance_n confession_n and_o absolution_n necessary_a requisite_a and_o tend_v thereunto_o because_o in_o christ_n jesus_n and_o matter_n of_o soul_n government_n christian_a liberty_n and_o such_o like_a there_o be_v neither_o bond_n nor_o free_a as_o coll._n 3._o v._n 11._o second_o for_o that_o which_o we_o call_v from_o the_o visible_a church_n so_o far_o footth_v as_o it_o be_v mere_o ecclesiastical_a every_o prince_n and_o potentate_n be_v as_o well_o lyeable_a unto_o it_o as_o any_o other_o because_o the_o care_n and_o charge_n of_o their_o soul_n be_v no_o less_o upon_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n but_o rather_o much_o more_o than_o for_o any_o other_o and_o also_o their_o sin_n and_o example_n be_v common_o more_o infectious_a and_o dangerous_a than_o other_o man_n and_o last_o it_o be_v not_o only_o a_o great_a profanation_n of_o all_o those_o holy_a thing_n daily_o offer_v to_o such_o pollute_a and_o unclean_a soul_n but_o a_o great_a cruelty_n also_o and_o carelessness_n at_o the_o least_o in_o those_o that_o shall_v be_v soule-saver_n and_o physician_n to_o suffer_v any_o under_o their_o diet_n order_v and_o cure_v to_o surfeit_v themselves_o and_o surcharge_n their_o soul_n with_o new_a sin_n of_o take_v by_o this_o mean_v god_n name_n in_o vain_a pollute_v his_o sanctuary_n eat_v and_o drink_v their_o own_o damnation_n and_o such_o like_a before_o by_o confession_n and_o true_a repentance_n outward_o testify_v at_o the_o least_o which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o any_o man_n can_v require_v and_o discern_v they_o have_v discharge_v themselves_o of_o their_o old_a sin_n as_o noxious_a humour_n in_o a_o foul_a stomach_n which_o eftsoon_o otherwise_o will_v break_v out_o into_o many_o aguish_a hot_a and_o cold_a fit_n as_o augustine_n call_v they_o of_o other_o sin_n and_o daily_a symptom_n of_o god_n judgement_n howbeit_o in_o this_o second_o kind_n of_o excommunication_n there_o be_v certain_a case_n reserve_v reseruati_fw-la casus_fw-la reseruati_fw-la and_o special_a rule_n evermore_o to_o be_v observe_v for_o the_o execution_n of_o it_o which_o may_v fit_v we_o in_o some_o better_a and_o further_o answer_v to_o this_o point_n as_o first_o that_o because_o the_o safety_n of_o many_o and_o the_o common_a peace_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v always_o to_o be_v respect_v and_o prefer_v before_o any_o mean_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o a_o few_o or_o of_o the_o prince_n himself_o in_o such_o time_n as_o by_o the_o excommunicate_v of_o some_o prince_n or_o other_o of_o great_a power_n or_o else_o some_o whole_a faction_n which_o may_v breed_v commotion_n in_o the_o church_n or_o whole_a state_n common_o note_v and_o call_v by_o turbidis_fw-la temporibus_fw-la this_o censure_n may_v very_o well_o yea_o ought_v to_o be_v forbear_v as_o in_o all_o other_o of_o that_o nature_n which_o may_v prejudice_n rather_o than_o help_v and_o further_o the_o peaceable_a government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o save_v of_o soul_n in_o general_n for_o which_o end_v this_o censure_n be_v first_o invent_v by_o god_n or_o man_n and_o all_o thing_n appertain_v thereunto_o and_o whole_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v refer_v second_o where_o the_o forbear_n of_o this_o censure_n or_o at_o the_o least_o some_o high_a degree_n thereof_o may_v be_v perceive_v by_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o church_n to_o make_v most_o for_o the_o regain_n of_o any_o who_o may_v otherwise_o haply_o be_v harden_v and_o discourage_v if_o not_o in_o some_o tender_a mind_a people_n swallow_v up_o with_o sorrow_n thereby_o as_o
word_n and_o have_v not_o god_n himself_o make_v this_o order_n and_o difference_n in_o all_o public_a and_o politic_a proceed_n as_o by_o the_o place_n above_o name_v and_o many_o other_o of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n which_o we_o have_v elsewhere_o use_v for_o the_o difference_n and_o dignity_n of_o minister_n in_o general_a may_v appear_v yet_o common_a experience_n reason_n and_o necessity_n will_v have_v enforce_v the_o same_o as_o we_o may_v see_v in_o all_o politic_a body_n ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a which_o have_v ever_o be_v in_o the_o world_n which_o otherwise_o through_o a_o general_a confusion_n none_o rule_v nor_o any_o obey_n will_v fall_v down_o of_o themselves_o as_o saint_n paul_n say_v if_o every_o member_n be_v a_o head_n where_o be_v the_o hand_n the_o foot_n the_o smell_a &c_n &c_n even_o all_o without_o order_n and_o difference_n a_o monstrous_a confusion_n and_o therefore_o these_o man_n themselves_o in_o their_o exercise_v and_o award_v this_o high_a censure_n or_o any_o part_n of_o their_o new_a devise_a policy_n and_o discipline_n reduce_v all_o such_o proceed_n to_o consistorial_n throne_n and_o jurisdiction_n and_o that_o in_o far_o great_a sovereignty_n and_o peremptory_a unreverseable_a power_n then_o wheresoever_o under_o christian_a magistracy_n any_o lawful_a ecclesiastical_a body_n do_v execute_v their_o jurisdiction_n and_o power_n and_o herein_o it_o differ_v not_o whether_o the_o immediate_a manager_n and_o actuary_n in_o this_o excommunication_n be_v good_a or_o bad_a as_o the_o donatist_n and_o anabaptist_n sometime_o except_v against_o baptism_n itself_o and_o some_o of_o our_o homebred_a schismatickes_n have_v often_o reviue_v those_o quarrel_n or_o else_o laicke_v sometime_o and_o in_o some_o case_n as_o the_o next_o question_n will_v better_o inquire_v so_o long_o as_o they_o have_v this_o external_a order_n and_o power_n by_o lawful_a authority_n under_o christian_a magistrate_n put_v upon_o they_o because_o therein_o they_o do_v not_o their_o own_o work_n or_o action_n as_o augustine_n have_v abundant_o answer_v against_o the_o donatist_n but_o the_o special_a function_n of_o the_o church_n by_o which_o they_o be_v move_v and_o in_o every_o particular_a direct_v and_o no_o way_n carry_v so_o far_o forth_o as_o they_o perform_v any_o ecclesiastical_a service_n by_o their_o own_o private_a motion_n and_o spirit_n as_o appear_v also_o in_o baptism_n ordination_n of_o minister_n and_o many_o other_o thing_n appertain_v to_o ecclesiastical_a power_n and_o censure_n and_o indeed_o the_o sum_n of_o this_o objection_n be_v none_o other_o than_o the_o demand_n of_o corah_n and_o his_o confederate_n challenge_v equal_a power_n and_o holiness_n in_o this_o kind_n to_o all_o the_o levite_n and_o minister_n in_o common_a 34._o num._n 16._o v._n 34._o which_o god_n have_v make_v then_o for_o the_o order_n and_o government_n of_o that_o church_n proper_a to_o the_o priest_n which_o be_v all_o one_o with_o the_o matter_n and_o question_n we_o have_v in_o hand_n for_o the_o conclusion_n whereof_o i_o desire_v all_o to_o read_v that_o with_o judgement_n and_o to_o translate_v the_o latin_a of_o it_o into_o good_a true_a english_a divinity_n or_o christian_a and_o godly_a policy_n if_o they_o will_v which_o that_o grave_n learned_a and_o true_a christian_a politician_n write_v sometime_o by_o way_n of_o council_n and_o theological_a determination_n to_o certain_a like_o mind_a with_o these_o questionist_n &_o obiector_n theologicis_fw-la melancthon_n in_o consiliis_fw-la theologicis_fw-la et_fw-la consistoria_fw-la ideo_fw-la constituta_fw-la sunt_fw-la ne_fw-la indocti_fw-la pastor_n aut_fw-la malidamnent_fw-la homines_fw-la sine_fw-la legittima_fw-la cognition_n sicut_fw-la manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la iracundos_fw-la pastor_n saepe_fw-la hoc_fw-la modo_fw-la iniuste_fw-la turbasse_n ecclesias_fw-la &_o notum_fw-la est_fw-la plurimos_fw-la pastor_n nescire_fw-la ordinem_fw-la cognitionum_fw-la satis_fw-la est_fw-la pastor_n quod_fw-la ad_fw-la ministerium_fw-la &_o iurisdictionem_fw-la svam_fw-la attinet_fw-la quando_fw-la crimen_fw-la est_fw-la notorium_fw-la admonere_fw-la reum_fw-la &_o si_fw-la non_fw-la obtemperet_fw-la arcere_fw-la cum_fw-la a_o communione_n etc._n etc._n which_o special_a power_n also_o be_v by_o the_o wisdom_n and_o appointment_n of_o our_o church_n through_o some_o delegate_v power_n leave_v many_o time_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o every_o the_o mean_a minister_n who_o also_o for_o the_o most_o part_n always_o have_v his_o ministry_n and_o use_n in_o the_o inflict_a this_o censure_n and_o absolve_a any_o person_n from_o it_o to_o which_o the_o same_o author_n add_v the_o practice_n and_o judgement_n of_o other_o learned_a man_n and_o church_n at_o that_o time_n more_o direct_o to_o this_o question_n anâ—â—_n annum_fw-la in_o ditione_n naumbergensi_fw-la magna_fw-la contentio_fw-la fuit_fw-la inter_fw-la quosdam_fw-la a_o singuli_fw-la pastor_n armandi_fw-la essent_fw-la hac_fw-la potestate_fw-la nominatim_fw-la sine_fw-la cognition_n consistorii_fw-la excommunicandi_fw-la aliquos_fw-la responderunt_fw-la autem_fw-la dr._n sneppius_n &_o casper_n aquila_n idem_fw-la quod_fw-la nos_fw-la nunc_fw-la scribimus_fw-la now_o for_o the_o three_o and_o last_o question_n and_o objection_n usual_o make_v against_o the_o mean_n and_o manner_n of_o execute_v this_o censure_n 3._o quaest_n 3._o namely_o that_o oftentimes_o mere_a laic_n or_o such_o at_o the_o least_o as_o be_v never_o full_o admit_v into_o holy_a order_n do_v not_o only_o intermeddle_v therewith_o but_o have_v for_o the_o most_o part_n the_o great_a stroke_n therein_o 50._o plea_n of_o the_o innocent_a pag._n 49._o &_o 50._o to_o which_o i_o first_o answer_n that_o which_o some_o of_o these_o exceptor_n and_o pleader_n make_v contrary_a use_n of_o allege_v as_o the_o truth_n be_v and_o the_o order_n thereof_o by_o our_o canon_n and_o common_a practice_n of_o our_o church_n that_o the_o main_n sentence_n of_o excommunication_n be_v evermore_o reserve_v to_o be_v denounce_v by_o the_o bishop_n or_o some_o other_o minister_n as_o from_o who_o care_n and_o power_n this_o whole_a proceed_n do_v original_o descend_v by_o who_o and_o by_o what_o mean_v soever_o it_o be_v manage_v which_o second_o if_o it_o be_v not_o so_o i_o answer_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v perform_v herein_o by_o any_o such_o person_n either_o for_o the_o better_a &_o more_o safe_a preparation_n to_o the_o final_a sentence_n itself_o or_o else_o practise_v in_o the_o very_o denounce_v of_o the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v account_v for_o no_o other_o than_o the_o action_n of_o the_o sacred_a ministry_n itself_o or_o if_o you_o will_v rather_o speak_v with_o cyprian_a and_o jerome_n of_o the_o church_n and_o whole_a power_n any_o where_o establish_v for_o so_o they_o speak_v plain_o albeit_o very_o impertinent_o 59_o nichols_n in_o his_o plea_n pag._n 59_o and_o as_o ignorant_o cite_v by_o one_o of_o these_o grand_a exceptor_n against_o many_o thing_n in_o our_o church_n government_n and_o this_o one_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n among_o the_o rest_n clavium_fw-la potestas_fw-la non_fw-la unise_v unitati_fw-la conceditur_fw-la and_o so_o indeed_o the_o intermedler_n herein_o be_v not_o mere_o laikes_n or_o whole_o ecclesiastical_a in_o that_o behalf_n and_o their_o assistance_n herein_o or_o pronounce_v this_o sentence_n at_o any_o time_n be_v no_o otherwise_o then_o as_o the_o clerk_n of_o the_o peace_n at_o any_o common_a session_n do_v read_v denounce_v or_o any_o way_n assist_v the_o judge_n thereof_o to_o who_o proper_o and_o principal_o the_o whole_a commission_n be_v direct_v three_o many_o thing_n incident_a and_o especial_o belong_v to_o this_o great_a censure_n of_o excommunication_n as_o it_o be_v now_o for_o the_o most_o part_n exercise_v by_o any_o church_n be_v external_a and_o primary_o respect_v the_o body_n and_o outward_a estate_n of_o the_o offender_n as_o also_o the_o common_a peace_n and_o external_a policy_n of_o both_o church_n and_o common_a wealth_n together_o as_o we_o above_o show_v they_o be_v by_o all_o reasonable_a consideration_n to_o be_v manage_v and_o discuss_v by_o their_o proper_a professor_n and_o best_o experience_v therein_o neither_o last_o be_v it_o meet_v as_o the_o whole_a council_n of_o the_o apostle_n conclude_v in_o the_o like_a case_n that_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n shall_v attend_v upon_o table_n or_o take_v knowledge_n of_o all_o criminal_a cause_n in_o this_o kind_n and_o nature_n in_o respect_n whereof_o our_o new_a master_n of_o their_o church_n policy_n have_v find_v it_o very_o necessary_a to_o appoint_v diverse_a sort_n of_o lay_v person_n as_o elder_n deacon_n widow_n and_o such_o like_a make_v they_o essential_a part_n of_o all_o welordered_a church_n policy_n 2._o acts._n 6._o v._o 2._o according_a to_o christ_n his_o word_n rule_n and_o kingdom_n as_o they_o say_v who_o yet_o notwithstanding_o in_o the_o truth_n of_o those_o term_n be_v according_a to_o the_o use_n thereof_o in_o the_o first_o church_n and_o paul_n his_o mention_v of_o such_o kind_n of_o helper_n 1._o cor._n 12._o v._n 26._o under_o the_o
put_v out_o as_o bellarmine_n p._n 78._o l._n 2._o for_o fact_n r._n fast_n p._n 81._o l._n 35._o for_o antichrist_n r._n antichrist_n p_o 84._o l._n 35._o for_o conscience_n of_o some_o r._n conscience_n of_o sin_n p._n 85._o l._n 18._o put_v out_o not_o in_o the_o title_n of_o the_o chap._n p._n 96._o l._n 34._o for_o tollerent_fw-la read_v tolerent_fw-la a_o triple_a antidote_n against_o certain_a very_a common_a scandalle_n of_o this_o time_n which_o like_o infectious_a and_o epidemical_a disease_n have_v general_o annoy_v most_o sort_n of_o people_n among_o we_o poison_v also_o not_o a_o few_o and_o diverse_a way_n plague_v and_o afflict_v the_o whole_a state_n chap._n i._o contain_v the_o name_n nature_n and_o manifold_a kind_n and_o difference_n of_o excommunication_n excommunication_n be_v the_o high_a censure_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a power_n from_o which_o the_o other_o two_o of_o subscription_n and_o the_o cross_n with_o all_o such_o decent_a and_o profitable_a ceremony_n do_v natural_o arise_v and_o the_o lawfulness_n and_o necessity_n of_o these_o latter_a depend_v for_o the_o most_o part_n upon_o the_o former_a i_o have_v place_v the_o same_o in_o the_o forefront_n as_o it_o be_v of_o those_o many_o battle_n and_o encounter_n which_o by_o all_o kind_n of_o people_n almost_o in_o this_o complain_v and_o murmur_a age_n have_v be_v make_v against_o they_o all_o but_o especial_o against_o the_o truth_n power_n and_o use_v of_o excommunication_n which_o according_a to_o the_o name_n and_o nature_n thereof_o i_o have_v first_o of_o all_o endeavour_v to_o define_v after_o this_o manner_n namely_o as_o the_o word_n expound_v itself_o excommunication_n in_o the_o most_o general_a sense_n and_o acception_n thereof_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o separation_n from_o some_o common_a benefit_n of_o which_o any_o former_o have_v be_v separatio_fw-la excommunicatio_fw-la a_o communi_fw-la bono_fw-mi separatio_fw-la or_o otherwise_o may_v have_v be_v partaker_n which_o be_v the_o common_a receive_a definition_n by_o the_o school_n and_o canon_n which_o be_v somewhat_o too_o general_a for_o our_o purpose_n after_o certain_a division_n of_o these_o large_a term_n we_o hope_v at_o the_o length_n to_o comprise_v the_o full_a sum_n and_o substance_n thereof_o in_o as_o short_a a_o compass_n as_o so_o great_a a_o matter_n may_v be_v these_o common_a benefit_n and_o privilege_n therefore_o enjoy_v in_o this_o life_n be_v either_o ecclesiastical_a or_o civil_a this_o term_n of_o excommunication_n have_v be_v always_o by_o all_o sufficient_a writer_n restrain_v to_o those_o special_a grace_n and_o favour_n which_o belong_v proper_o to_o the_o church_n and_o so_o this_o censure_n be_v to_o be_v define_v according_o to_o be_v a_o debar_v and_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n which_o also_o be_v either_o visible_a or_o invisible_a the_o truth_n and_o nature_n of_o this_o excommunication_n must_v be_v in_o like_a manner_n examine_v and_o distinguish_v to_o be_v a_o separation_n from_o the_o visible_a or_o invisible_a church_n of_o which_o distinction_n sundry_a reason_n may_v be_v give_v which_o brief_o may_v be_v comprise_v in_o these_o two_o position_n from_o which_o many_o more_o particular_n may_v easy_o be_v collect_v first_o that_o the_o knowledge_n order_n and_o proceed_v in_o either_o of_o these_o kind_n be_v very_o much_o differ_v both_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o person_n censure_v accuse_v or_o offend_v as_o also_o of_o the_o default_n and_o punishment_n thereunto_o belong_v the_o one_o be_v always_o certain_a after_o one_o manner_n because_o god_n as_o augustine_n well_o observe_v who_o be_v the_o high_a judge_n in_o that_o privy_a court_n do_v see_v all_o thing_n evermore_o as_o they_o be_v and_o judge_v according_o by_o his_o present_a mercy_n and_o present_a justice_n take_v all_o action_n and_o person_n as_o he_o find_v they_o and_o so_o his_o word_n and_o ministry_n thereof_o with_o all_o other_o mean_v belong_v to_o this_o excommunication_n proceed_v by_o the_o same_o order_n and_o degree_n the_o other_o very_o variable_a from_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o uncertain_a 2047._o primo_fw-la secundum_fw-la praescientiam_fw-la 2._o causam_fw-la 3._o operationem_fw-la 4._o retributionem_fw-la sol_fw-la 2047._o take_v knowledge_n and_o give_v order_n for_o personal_a cause_n according_a to_o particular_a allegation_n and_o proof_n as_o they_o say_v which_o hugo_n the_o sanct_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la legis_fw-la naturalis_fw-la &_o scriptae_fw-la do_v more_o large_o express_v make_v four_o kind_n of_o judgement_n second_o because_o one_o and_o the_o self_n same_o person_n may_v be_v admit_v and_o allow_v for_o a_o communicant_a in_o the_o one_o which_o happy_o have_v no_o interest_n nor_o fellowship_n in_o the_o other_o and_o so_o contrary_o the_o same_o person_n may_v by_o course_n and_o order_n of_o law_n and_o proceed_n in_o some_o case_n be_v remove_v from_o some_o part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o keep_v their_o place_n firm_a and_o sure_a in_o the_o invisible_a as_o 1._o timothy_n chap._n 5._o verse_n 24._o and_o 2._o samuel_n chap._n 16._o verse_n 7._o be_v plain_o avouch_v that_o god_n see_v not_o as_o man_n see_v and_o that_o some_o man_n sin_n go_v before_o unto_o judgement_n and_o some_o follow_v after_o now_o this_o excommunication_n from_o the_o invisible_a church_n be_v only_o infallible_o know_v and_o exercise_v by_o god_n who_o alone_o know_v who_o be_v he_o 2._o tim._n chap._n 2._o vers_fw-la 19_o and_o how_o at_o all_o time_n every_o one_o stand_v or_o fall_v to_o himself_o the_o great_a master_n of_o all_o rom._n 14._o vers_fw-la 4._o yet_o have_v he_o appoint_v certain_a person_n to_o who_o a_o special_a commission_n be_v direct_v to_o proceed_v in_o this_o inward_a and_o high_a court_n of_o conscience_n and_o by_o which_o special_a mean_n as_o by_o certain_a sign_n and_o best_a conjecture_n the_o knowledge_n of_o every_o one_o his_o estate_n and_o freeholde_v as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o invisible_a church_n and_o true_a fellowship_n with_o god_n and_o his_o saint_n may_v be_v discern_v which_o mean_v the_o learned_a have_v call_v voluntatem_fw-la signi_fw-la be_v indeed_o signa_fw-la voluntatis_fw-la subordinate_a to_o that_o infallible_a prescience_n and_o predestination_n of_o god_n by_o which_o together_o with_o these_o sign_n and_o mean_n which_o for_o that_o end_n be_v prepare_v and_o appoint_v by_o god_n all_o be_v deliver_v from_o their_o miserable_a estate_n and_o fellowship_n with_o the_o devil_n and_o church_n malignant_a and_o receive_v into_o this_o invisible_a church_n and_o company_n whosoever_o they_o be_v that_o be_v at_o any_o time_n so_o receive_v as_o saint_n augustine_n in_o many_o place_n learned_o show_v which_o sign_n and_o mean_n specify_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o common_o call_v and_o understand_v by_o those_o general_a grace_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v find_v in_o any_o or_o testify_v by_o any_o outward_a sign_n to_o those_o commissary_n of_o god_n as_o i_o may_v so_o term_v they_o above_o name_v so_o far_o as_o they_o can_v or_o aught_o to_o judge_v according_a to_o their_o rite_n of_o commission_n and_o proceed_n to_o be_v in_o any_o or_o otherwise_o to_o be_v want_v so_o be_v they_o judge_v and_o allow_v for_o meet_v partaker_n and_o communicantes_fw-la with_o that_o heavenly_a society_n be_v qualify_v thereunto_o by_o the_o former_a grace_n or_o else_o to_o be_v whole_o unworthy_a and_o out_o of_o the_o same_o and_o so_o be_v admit_v or_o exclude_v by_o these_o steward_n god_n minister_n who_o god_n have_v appoint_v and_o none_o other_o as_o shall_v be_v show_v hereafter_o to_o deal_v in_o that_o high_a court_n of_o his_o or_o pronounce_v private_o or_o more_o open_o so_o to_o be_v whatsoever_o they_o shall_v do_v in_o that_o behalf_n according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o their_o commission_n and_o order_n of_o their_o court_n roll_n which_o be_v the_o truth_n and_o scope_n of_o holy_a scripture_n shall_v be_v ratify_v and_o confirm_v in_o heaven_n both_o for_o the_o pardon_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o grace_n in_o this_o life_n joh._n 20._o vers_fw-la 23._o and_o the_o full_a state_n of_o glory_n for_o ever_o in_o heaven_n mat._n 16._o vers_fw-la 19_o in_o regard_v whereof_o this_o excommunication_n from_o the_o invisible_a church_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o it_o may_v be_v award_v or_o any_o way_n judicial_o proceed_v in_o by_o man_n ecclesia_fw-la definitio_fw-la excommunicationis_fw-la ab_fw-la invisibili_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la may_v thus_o be_v describe_v to_o be_v that_o part_n of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n whereby_o upon_o the_o sign_n and_o evidence_n of_o infidelity_n heresy_n irrepentance_n or_o such_o like_a every_o true_a minister_n do_v pronounce_v any_o to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o god_n wrath_n and_o out_o of_o the_o fellowship_n and_o communion_n of_o saint_n which_o power_n albeit_o saint_n augustine_n
i_o have_v deal_v with_o or_o hear_v of_o confess_v as_o much_o of_o our_o doctrine_n which_o yet_o indeed_o be_v thing_n well_o examine_v be_v as_o much_o as_o be_v require_v at_o their_o hand_n by_o this_o subscription_n and_o as_o for_o particular_a difference_n of_o learned_a man_n about_o the_o exposition_n of_o sundry_a scripture_n and_o diversity_n of_o judgement_n about_o any_o special_a point_n of_o positive_a divinity_n as_o for_o example_n in_o some_o part_n of_o that_o article_n touch_v christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n and_o such_o like_a very_o many_o about_o the_o read_n or_o translate_n quadam_fw-la in_o epistola_fw-la quadam_fw-la yea_o allow_v at_o all_o certain_a book_n general_o retain_v among_o the_o rest_n of_o holy_a scripture_n they_o need_v not_o hinder_v any_o man_n hand_n from_o subscription_n for_o as_o long_o as_o the_o world_n stand_v there_o will_v be_v infinite_a such_o difference_n and_o that_o which_o hierome_n observe_v in_o his_o time_n concern_v many_o such_o variety_n must_v go_v still_o for_o currant_n that_o in_o such_o cause_n quilibet_fw-la abundet_fw-la svo_fw-la sensu_fw-la and_o yet_o submit_v himself_o to_o the_o general_a truth_n and_o equity_n of_o thing_n ordain_v in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o best_a rule_n for_o every_o age_n and_o every_o special_a church_n for_o so_o neither_o be_v it_o any_o way_n contrary_a but_o very_o agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o every_o particular_a therein_o that_o the_o best_a humane_a constitution_n for_o matter_n of_o doctrine_n or_o manner_n shall_v be_v imperfect_a and_o not_o want_v their_o doubt_n and_o ambiguity_n nor_o yet_o that_o those_o that_o live_v under_o government_n for_o these_o imperfection_n no_o way_n imply_v any_o manifest_a error_n or_o impiety_n be_v they_o never_o so_o many_o shall_v refuse_v to_o subscribe_v thereunto_o be_v lawful_o require_v for_o so_o shall_v they_o yield_v unto_o nothing_o and_o yet_o when_o they_o have_v do_v all_o they_o can_v they_o must_v and_o do_v subscribe_v to_o some_o man_n and_o some_o rule_n for_o doctrine_n and_o matter_n traditionary_a among_o themselves_o and_o why_o not_o aswell_o to_o the_o present_a state_n whereby_o they_o live_v but_o that_o singularity_n syde_v and_o affection_n now_o rule_v all_o the_o world_n and_o god_n his_o ordinance_n be_v easy_o neglect_v and_o reject_v second_o in_o matter_n doubtful_a and_o difficult_a either_o for_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n so_o long_o as_o they_o contain_v no_o manifest_a impiety_n or_o notorious_a offence_n in_o they_o the_o superior_n authority_n ground_a upon_o the_o five_o commandment_n be_v sufficient_a warrant_n and_o bond_n also_o to_o any_o conscience_n for_o obedience_n therein_o for_o otherwise_o there_o will_v be_v no_o end_n of_o controversy_n as_o melanct._n pag._n 123._o part._n 2._o consil_n theolog._n ut_fw-la sit_fw-la igitur_fw-la discordiarum_fw-la finit_a recte_fw-la facit_fw-la potestas_fw-la obligans_fw-la homines_fw-la ut_fw-la obtemperent_fw-la cum_fw-la alioqui_fw-la parere_fw-la sit_fw-la necesse_fw-la according_a also_o to_o that_o old_a argument_n cognitio_fw-la in_o synodis_fw-la est_fw-la summum_fw-la iudicium_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la parere_fw-la igitur_fw-la est_fw-la necesse_fw-la nor_o yet_o any_o order_n for_o any_o proceed_n in_o the_o world_n which_o move_v saint_n augustine_n at_o the_o last_o to_o conclude_v this_o point_n for_o the_o compel_a of_o heretic_n and_o all_o contrary_o mind_v to_o wholesome_a doctrine_n and_o religion_n establish_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o in_o his_o retractation_n he_o show_v 18._o retractatio_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 18._o who_o judgement_n be_v so_o universal_o approve_v among_o we_o that_o refractory_a spirit_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v constrain_v to_o such_o obedience_n even_o against_o their_o judgement_n &_o that_o without_o any_o conscience_n of_o sin_n unto_o they_o i_o marvel_v how_o these_o standard_n out_o can_v in_o their_o conscience_n absolve_v themselves_o of_o a_o great_a sin_n against_o the_o five_o commandment_n for_o disobey_v in_o so_o mean_a and_o small_a imposition_n by_o so_o lawful_a authority_n whereas_o in_o obey_v they_o have_v the_o five_o commandment_n for_o their_o warrant_n and_o the_o command_a magistrate_n his_o soul_n and_o conscience_n engage_v in_o this_o behalf_n as_o who_o sin_n furthermore_o it_o be_v if_o it_o be_v any_o and_o of_o who_o it_o be_v to_o be_v require_v and_o not_o of_o the_o obeyer_n who_o in_o case_n doubtful_a and_o difficult_a make_v just_a conscience_n of_o obedience_n to_o superior_n and_o stay_v himself_o herein_o upon_o the_o five_o commandment_n and_o if_o they_o say_v that_o in_o subscription_n thing_n simple_o wicked_a be_v urge_v by_o our_o church_n as_o in_o our_o doctrine_n form_n of_o prayer_n and_o discipline_n defend_v and_o allow_v it_o be_v strange_a that_o they_o have_v never_o as_o yet_o in_o all_o their_o prying_n exception_n and_o conclusion_n among_o they_o exhibit_v any_o such_o foul_a matter_n to_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o judicious_a which_o god_n be_v thank_v be_v in_o great_a number_n among_o we_o and_o abroad_o in_o the_o world_n and_o it_o be_v very_o strange_a and_o wicked_a also_o that_o our_o neighbour_n church_n with_o who_o we_o entertain_v and_o profess_v agreement_n and_o confession_n alike_o shall_v want_v so_o much_o charity_n and_o that_o so_o long_o especial_o those_o aristarchi_n of_o geneva_n and_o beza_n himself_o write_v so_o oft_o to_o our_o late_a queen_n and_o some_o bishop_n also_o of_o this_o kingdom_n as_o never_o to_o have_v put_v we_o in_o mind_n thereof_o &_o in_o a_o word_n they_o may_v as_o well_o say_v we_o have_v no_o church_n at_o all_o which_o god_n be_v thank_v for_o matter_n of_o constitution_n for_o doctrine_n and_o manner_n be_v one_o of_o the_o most_o flourish_a church_n in_o the_o world_n as_o to_o say_v we_o shall_v retain_v such_o gross_a point_n contrary_a to_o faith_n and_o manner_n 113._o cassander_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la infantum_fw-la p._n 113._o as_o cassander_n learned_o dispute_v from_o this_o general_a to_o his_o particular_a defence_n of_o infant_n baptism_n against_o those_o anabaptisticall_a exceptor_n in_o germany_n of_o late_a very_o like_a in_o too_o too_o many_o thing_n unto_o those_o sectary_n of_o our_o time_n to_o who_o our_o wise_a and_o learned_a most_o noble_a sovereign_n late_o answer_v that_o if_o they_o suppose_v and_o judge_v such_o grossness_n as_o idolatry_n and_o such_o like_a to_o be_v in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o our_o religion_n or_o any_o mean_n of_o express_v the_o same_o that_o then_o they_o do_v very_o ill_a to_o stay_v so_o long_o among_o we_o and_o shall_v rather_o depart_v the_o kingdom_n which_o be_v also_o our_o answer_n in_o some_o case_n vel_fw-la subscribendum_fw-la vel_fw-la secedendum_fw-la rather_o in_o case_n they_o can_v be_v persuade_v than_o they_o shall_v do_v any_o thing_n against_o their_o conscience_n time_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o queen_n elizabeth_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o that_o time_n to_o depart_v from_o us._n three_o m._n digges_n his_o reason_n for_o association_n in_o religion_n which_o presume_v be_v well_o account_v of_o by_o these_o refuser_n and_o disliker_n of_o subscription_n the_o author_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n whole_o of_o their_o side_n make_v as_o much_o for_o uniformity_n in_o profess_v and_o express_v the_o same_o religion_n by_o one_o kind_n of_o ceremony_n and_o circumstance_n according_o and_o be_v it_o well_o consider_v and_o examine_v in_o matter_n and_o weight_n of_o state_n deliberation_n and_o execution_n it_o will_v be_v find_v thereupon_o by_o all_o that_o be_v true_o able_a to_o discern_v such_o matter_n and_o mystery_n that_o it_o be_v as_o like_a to_o have_v toleration_n &_o multitude_n of_o religion_n which_o all_o kind_n of_o opinion_n so_o much_o condemn_v as_o such_o variety_n diversity_n and_o contrariety_n in_o the_o outward_a manner_n external_a rite_n circumstance_n and_o ceremony_n to_o express_v the_o same_o as_o we_o have_v above_o intimate_v and_o in_o the_o outward_a perform_v thereof_o and_o albeit_o there_o be_v great_a odds_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o conscience_n with_o god_n which_o be_v but_o one_o and_o so_o will_v have_v but_o one_o religion_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n &c_n &c_n and_o so_o for_o the_o soul_n and_o safety_n of_o christian_a people_n which_o can_v have_v but_o one_o good_a and_o true_a religion_n yet_o for_o good_a policy_n matter_n &_o mean_n of_o common_a peace_n and_o well_o order_v the_o outward_a government_n of_o the_o church_n more_o inconvenience_n may_v well_o and_o wise_o be_v observe_v to_o proceed_v from_o the_o latter_a than_o the_o former_a as_o in_o compare_v ceremony_n with_o doctrine_n by_o certain_a reason_n draw_v from_o master_n luther_n and_o other_o we_o have_v elsewhere_o show_v in_o a_o more_o large_a treatise_n which_o if_o god_n please_v shall_v not_o be_v long_o behind_o this_o about_o this_o
the_o true_a end_n &_o scope_n of_o all_o those_o kind_n afore_o name_v or_o at_o any_o time_n use_v by_o the_o jew_n themselves_o or_o any_o other_o in_o their_o church_n government_n shall_v more_o special_o be_v show_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n chap._n ii_o comprise_v the_o true_a end_n and_o scope_n of_o all_o the_o kind_n and_o difference_n of_o excommunication_n above_o name_v with_o some_o little_a infusion_n of_o guomicall_a divinity_n touch_v one_o special_a point_n for_o proceed_v thereby_o against_o some_o kind_n of_o person_n after_o their_o confession_n and_o often_o absolution_n thereupon_o the_o end_n therefore_o of_o all_o those_o kind_n of_o excommunication_n which_o have_v be_v recite_v in_o the_o former_a chapter_n as_o appertain_v any_o way_n to_o the_o church_n power_n and_o authority_n concern_v either_o the_o common_a good_a or_o avoid_v any_o evil_a and_o imminent_a danger_n in_o any_o particular_a church_n which_o by_o suffer_v any_o notorious_a offender_n uncensured_a or_o scandalous_o to_o rest_v among_o they_o may_v by_o evil_a example_n or_o further_a infection_n be_v much_o annoy_v and_o sudden_o subvert_v or_o else_o the_o private_a duty_n and_o care_n the_o church_n sa_o a_o love_a mother_n &_o the_o minister_n thereof_o their_o spiritual_a father_n aught_o to_o have_v for_o the_o regain_n and_o recover_v any_o from_o their_o irrepentance_n and_o more_o special_a soul_n sin_n as_o also_o by_o true_a confession_n of_o some_o occasion_n and_o occurrent_n thereunto_o upon_o their_o receive_n again_o into_o the_o church_n to_o preserve_v they_o from_o further_a danger_n and_o to_o prescribe_v they_o remedy_n and_o direction_n for_o afterward_o and_o indeed_o more_o good_a be_v like_a to_o be_v do_v towards_o the_o most_o part_n of_o sinner_n upon_o their_o confession_n and_o absolution_n after_o these_o censure_n than_o we_o see_v come_v to_o pass_v or_o likely_a to_o be_v effect_v by_o our_o ordinary_a and_o general_a preach_n the_o common_a ground_n of_o all_o which_o may_v be_v observe_v especial_o in_o the_o latter_a invention_n for_o bodily_a and_o more_o sensible_a punishment_n to_o have_v proceed_v from_o the_o strange_a corruption_n and_o fleshly_a mind_n of_o all_o mankind_n for_o the_o most_o part_n with_o who_o all_o other_o mean_n of_o exhortation_n admonition_n reprehension_n promise_n or_o threaten_n for_o the_o time_n to_o come_v and_o such_o like_a will_n little_o prevail_v except_o some_o present_a sensible_a temporal_a affliction_n inward_a or_o outward_a be_v adjoin_v thereunto_o and_o therefore_o not_o only_a mean_n of_o grief_n fear_n and_o shame_n but_o other_o also_o more_o near_o and_o outward_a punishment_n upon_o their_o good_n body_n and_o good_a name_n for_o ever_o have_v be_v devise_v and_o appoint_v to_o drive_v they_o to_o confess_v and_o leave_v their_o sin_n and_o by_o the_o affliction_n of_o the_o flesh_n as_o saint_n paul_n teach_v in_o what_o kind_n soever_o to_o recover_v and_o save_v the_o soul_n in_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n jesus_n his_o judgement_n wherein_o the_o church_n deal_v as_o god_n himself_o be_v wont_v with_o hard_a heart_a and_o irrepentant_a sinner_n who_o when_o all_o other_o mean_v fail_v he_o afflict_v for_o no_o other_o end_n but_o their_o own_o salvation_n with_o many_o inward_a and_o outward_a plague_n and_o judgement_n in_o all_o which_o temporal_a and_o outward_a affliction_n this_o one_o thing_n ought_v evermore_o to_o be_v regard_v by_o those_o that_o have_v the_o award_v of_o they_o that_o such_o particular_a mean_n in_o this_o kind_n may_v ever_o be_v apply_v as_o whereby_o the_o offender_n may_v more_o sensible_o be_v touch_v and_o not_o to_o punish_v the_o rich_a one_o by_o the_o purse_n which_o they_o little_a regard_n and_o the_o poor_a with_o shame_n and_o bodily_a chastisement_n which_o they_o be_v well_o harden_v to_o endure_v but_o rather_o contrariwise_o that_o so_o at_o the_o least_o they_o may_v be_v bring_v into_o order_n of_o outward_a government_n if_o not_o to_o the_o inward_a reform_v of_o themselves_o and_o so_o by_o true_a and_o unfeigned_a confession_n to_o god_n and_o man_n to_o be_v restore_v again_o to_o the_o invisible_a church_n which_o all_o the_o part_n and_o kind_n of_o these_o latter_a excommunication_n aim_v at_o and_o serve_v unto_o for_o so_o indeed_o this_o confession_n and_o absolution_n thereupon_o be_v one_o of_o the_o chief_a and_o true_a end_n of_o this_o the_o great_a censure_n of_o excommunication_n and_o all_o the_o mean_n and_o part_n thereof_o as_o may_v appear_v by_o those_o hard_a place_n in_o the_o 6._o and_o 10._o to_o the_o hebrew_n and_o the_o 18._o of_o matthew_n if_o they_o be_v thorough_o look_v into_o and_o well_o compare_v together_o as_o also_o by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o jew_n themselves_o to_o the_o which_o some_o of_o those_o place_n at_o the_o least_o be_v refer_v and_o by_o the_o same_o as_o the_o practice_n of_o those_o time_n for_o the_o most_o part_n to_o be_v expound_v who_o be_v not_o only_o arm_v for_o their_o ecclesiastical_a estate_n with_o great_a authority_n but_o have_v further_a power_n to_o inflict_v corporal_a punishment_n which_o the_o roman_n themselves_o will_v not_o altogether_o abrogate_v nor_o much_o alter_v according_a to_o who_o practice_n and_o proportion_n of_o truth_n touch_v this_o argument_n contain_v in_o the_o former_a place_n one_o special_a point_n touch_v confession_n and_o absolution_n thereupon_o but_o especial_o the_o exercise_v of_o this_o high_a censure_n in_o some_o case_n volo_fw-la quod_fw-la gnomicum_fw-la esse_fw-la volo_fw-la and_o against_o some_o person_n i_o think_v fit_a and_o necessary_a to_o be_v unfold_v for_o the_o jew_n themselves_o have_v not_o only_o their_o consistory_n wherein_o this_o church_n power_n be_v exercise_v which_o math._n 18._o 14._o 2._o thessaly_n 3._o cap._n vers_fw-la 14._o be_v term_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n and_o saint_n paul_n will_v have_v disorder_v note_v person_n carry_v thither_o by_o which_o nothing_o else_o can_v be_v mean_v but_o this_o church_n power_n we_o now_o speak_v of_o rest_v in_o the_o hand_n &_o execution_n of_o they_o to_o who_o any_o particular_a church_n shall_v commit_v the_o same_o for_o the_o time_n judana_n in_o his_o dictionary_n call_v thisbite_n de_fw-fr politia_fw-la judana_n but_o also_o as_o elias_n levita_fw-la report_v &_o may_v easy_o be_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n but_o that_o other_o have_v ease_v i_o of_o that_o labour_n of_o late_a and_o out_o of_o berteram_n also_o and_o sigonias_n they_o proceed_v diverse_o by_o outward_a and_o temporal_a punishment_n according_a to_o the_o nature_n and_o quality_n of_o their_o sault_n which_o against_o some_o person_n and_o in_o some_o case_n be_v so_o far_o extend_v as_o that_o they_o be_v never_o receive_v into_o the_o outward_a fellowship_n of_o the_o church_n again_o or_o at_o the_o least_o have_v not_o the_o sentence_n of_o absolution_n public_o and_o quoad_fw-la forum_n externum_fw-la as_o we_o say_v afford_v unto_o they_o as_o by_o the_o three_o word_n use_v by_o the_o jew_n to_o express_v three_o kind_n of_o excommunication_n may_v plain_o be_v gather_v 〈◊〉_d nidni_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o first_o whereof_o they_o remove_v more_o grievous_a and_o obstinate_a sinner_n from_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o church_n 〈◊〉_d cherom_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o second_o they_o inflict_v and_o award_v some_o more_o grievous_a punishment_n which_o may_v stick_v by_o they_o as_o we_o say_v and_o even_o pierce_v they_o to_o the_o heart_n and_o bone_n as_o themselves_o expound_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d shamatha_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o the_o three_o do_v anathemize_v they_o to_o a_o perpetual_a separation_n wherein_o they_o shall_v remain_v unto_o their_o death_n which_o last_o i_o take_v it_o be_v only_o mean_v of_o these_o outward_a mean_n in_o church_n government_n and_o no_o way_n respect_v forum_n internum_fw-la or_o any_o one_o interest_n at_o the_o least_o for_o ever_o in_o the_o invisible_a church_n but_o that_o therein_o any_o private_a minister_n or_o member_n of_o that_o church_n beside_o may_v yea_o ought_v to_o deal_v by_o all_o good_a mean_n for_o their_o confirmation_n again_o and_o recovery_n and_o so_o that_o place_n in_o saint_n paul_n 1._o cor._n 16._o vers_fw-la 22._o concern_v anathema_n maranatha_n until_o the_o lord_n come_v be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o all_o those_o that_o shall_v as_o hebr._n 10._o vers_fw-la 26._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o their_o wilful_a and_o more_o than_o voluntary_a rebellion_n as_o i_o may_v so_o speak_v and_o return_v unto_o their_o old_a sin_n make_v but_o a_o sport_n and_o scorn_n of_o this_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n and_o even_o tread_v under_o their_o foot_n the_o blood_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n than_o the_o which_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o despiteful_a
before_o hezechias_n his_o time_n and_o yet_o do_v not_o any_o of_o the_o king_n before_o he_o pull_v it_o down_o nor_o any_o of_o the_o prophet_n of_o those_o time_n do_v call_v upon_o they_o so_o to_o do_v much_o less_o as_o some_o of_o these_o new_a master_n enjoin_v christian_a prince_n be_v any_o of_o those_o prince_n bind_v upon_o fear_n of_o that_o serpent_n so_o to_o be_v abuse_v or_o give_v occasion_n to_o idolatry_n which_o can_v not_o be_v but_o very_o great_a 16._o 2._o of_o king_n cap._n 28._o v._n 4._o &_o 2._o chroni_n cap._n 29._o vers_fw-la 16._o it_o be_v place_v in_o the_o temple_n itself_o as_o by_o the_o story_n repeat_v in_o the_o king_n and_o chronicle_n compare_v together_o may_v appear_v and_o that_o it_o be_v no_o necessary_a thing_n but_o indifferent_a hezechias_n his_o pull_v it_o down_o without_o any_o reproof_n of_o the_o prophet_n or_o breach_n of_o any_o god_n law_n as_o it_o seem_v sufficient_o declare_v who_o also_o if_o he_o have_v let_v it_o continue_v still_o and_o cause_v the_o people_n by_o instruction_n and_o true_a discipline_n to_o leave_v that_o their_o abuse_n of_o it_o no_o scripture_n or_o prophet_n i_o dare_v say_v can_v have_v reprehend_v he_o for_o it_o as_o we_o do_v not_o read_v that_o any_o one_o or_o other_o commend_v he_o great_o for_o take_v it_o away_o nor_o reprehend_v any_o other_o of_o the_o king_n for_o not_o pull_v it_o down_o before_o and_o last_o the_o set_n up_o of_o the_o image_n or_o portraiture_n of_o any_o one_o father_n or_o friend_n which_o be_v a_o thing_n in_o my_o poor_a opinion_n too_o too_o common_a in_o some_o other_o respect_n even_o in_o the_o place_n where_o all_o the_o part_n of_o our_o holy_a service_n be_v perform_v as_o also_o the_o arm_n and_o picture_n of_o prince_n which_o be_v as_o common_a in_o many_o church_n may_v with_o great_a show_n of_o reason_n be_v call_v into_o question_n if_o there_o be_v any_o force_n in_o this_o argument_n than_o our_o cross_n which_o be_v but_o aërious_a and_o a_o transient_a sign_n as_o we_o have_v above_o show_v and_o neither_o image_n nor_o simulachrum_fw-la as_o the_o learned_a distinguish_v they_o and_o as_o those_o we_o last_o name_v be_v which_o also_o have_v not_o only_o be_v abuse_v to_o the_o great_a superstition_n and_o idolatry_n as_o appear_v by_o all_o story_n but_o also_o the_o very_a first_o occasion_n and_o original_n of_o all_o idolatry_n as_o out_o of_o the_o 14._o of_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n partly_o appear_v and_o many_o learned_a man_n have_v gather_v from_o thence_o and_o how_o the_o picture_n of_o prince_n have_v be_v by_o the_o flattery_n of_o sycophant_n their_o own_o pride_n and_o cruelty_n abuse_v this_o way_n many_o history_n report_v and_o yet_o i_o hope_v for_o these_o abuse_n cause_n or_o occasion_n thereof_o than_o the_o which_o there_o can_v be_v no_o great_a none_o will_v be_v so_o bold_a not_o only_o for_o fear_n of_o law_n in_o that_o case_n provide_v but_o even_o upon_o conscience_n of_o due_a reverence_n to_o the_o same_o as_o to_o pull_v they_o down_o or_o conclude_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v pull_v down_o or_o any_o way_n deface_v they_o or_o disgrace_v they_o by_o word_n or_o practice_n second_o whereas_o they_o object_v that_o there_o be_v no_o necessary_a use_n of_o this_o cross_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o and_o may_v be_v for_o they_o also_o but_o that_o nothing_o can_v hold_v they_o to_o make_v it_o necessary_a because_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v so_o ancient_o use_v it_o and_o the_o present_a church_n government_n judge_v it_o still_o fit_a to_o be_v retain_v among_o we_o neither_o ought_v any_o private_a spirit_n to_o call_v that_o common_a profane_a or_o unnecessary_a as_o saint_n peter_n sometime_o be_v advertise_v which_o god_n by_o his_o lawful_a magistrate_n have_v make_v holy_a and_o necessary_a to_o be_v perform_v by_o us._n 10._o act._n 10._o neither_o yet_o can_v any_o accidental_a abuse_n albeit_o in_o the_o high_a degree_n of_o any_o thing_n whatsoever_o necessary_a or_o indifferent_a discharge_v the_o subject_n from_o his_o due_a obedience_n to_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n once_o command_v by_o the_o magistrate_n which_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v and_o yield_v unto_o many_o temporal_a law_n of_o this_o kingdom_n which_o be_v force_v to_o tolerate_v many_o a_o mischief_n oftentime_n ought_v eftsoon_o to_o be_v repeal_v three_o beside_o that_o there_o have_v be_v and_o yet_o be_v very_o many_o good_a and_o so_o necessary_a use_n of_o this_o cross_n as_o we_o have_v former_o prove_v so_o be_v there_o no_o better_a way_n to_o show_v and_o reform_v the_o abuse_n of_o the_o same_o 4._o cap._n 4._o then_o that_o both_o by_o preach_v which_o i_o can_v wish_v be_v more_o careful_o perform_v in_o this_o behalf_n and_o due_a use_n and_o practise_v the_o same_o in_o the_o public_a congregation_n all_o sort_n of_o people_n may_v be_v inform_v in_o the_o truth_n and_o lawfulness_n of_o this_o ceremony_n by_o god_n word_n last_o for_o those_o place_n which_o be_v allege_v out_o of_o exodus_fw-la esai_n and_o hosea_n to_o strengthen_v this_o argument_n i_o answer_v that_o most_o of_o they_o be_v particular_a case_n ground_v upon_o special_a circumstance_n of_o those_o people_n sin_n and_o so_o be_v not_o to_o be_v draw_v to_o conclude_v any_o general_a proposition_n for_o or_o against_o these_o kind_n of_o ceremony_n as_o for_o example_n there_o be_v great_a odds_o between_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n where_o all_o such_o mean_n and_o monument_n of_o idolatry_n be_v in_o particular_a command_v utter_o to_o be_v deface_v and_o any_o part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o which_o any_o such_o abuse_n have_v sometime_o happen_v or_o more_o constant_o be_v continue_v for_o which_o god_n never_o give_v any_o peremptory_a and_o general_a commandment_n or_o special_a charge_n against_o they_o second_o those_o place_n in_o esai_n and_o hosea_n be_v threaten_n and_o promise_n of_o god_n to_o his_o church_n 2._o esay_n 30._o hosea_n 2._o for_o the_o better_a inform_v order_v and_o comfort_v the_o same_o and_o in_o no_o reasonable_a construction_n or_o exposition_n any_o peremptory_a commandment_n against_o the_o thing_n there_o speak_v of_o as_o where_o it_o be_v say_v i_o will_v pollute_v their_o image_n and_o cause_v the_o name_n of_o baal_n to_o cease_v the_o one_o be_v a_o just_a judgement_n denounce_v against_o the_o idolatry_n of_o that_o time_n which_o god_n be_v thank_v be_v far_o from_o we_o and_o our_o state_n which_o make_v severe_a law_n for_o the_o punishment_n of_o the_o same_o the_o other_o a_o gracious_a promise_n as_o the_o scope_n of_o that_o place_n and_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n declare_v and_o what_o a_o deal_n of_o sophistry_n be_v commit_v by_o allegation_n of_o scripture_n any_o judicious_a text-man_n or_o observer_n of_o the_o many_o strange_a conclusion_n of_o these_o time_n may_v easy_o perceive_v and_o elsewhere_o myself_o have_v give_v some_o touch_n unto_o they_o and_o taste_v unto_o other_o because_o indeed_o which_o be_v diligent_o to_o be_v mark_v for_o the_o true_a understanding_n of_o many_o scripture_n many_o thing_n be_v speak_v therein_o especial_o in_o their_o sermon_n cohortatorie_n as_o luther_n observe_v in_o the_o father_n that_o be_v usura_fw-la 2._o 2._o quaest_n de_fw-fr usura_fw-la by_o way_n of_o exhortation_n and_o maiorem_fw-la cantelam_fw-la as_o caietanus_n also_o observe_v in_o the_o school_n themselves_o wherein_o thing_n be_v apply_v to_o the_o time_n present_a and_o not_o any_o way_n determine_v of_o for_o the_o lawfulness_n or_o unlawfulnesse_n thereof_o and_o so_o such_o promise_n and_o threaten_n imply_v always_o a_o condition_n do_v put_v nothing_o in_o be_v as_o the_o school_n speak_v which_o be_v always_o to_o be_v examine_v and_o only_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o rule_n and_o canon_n of_o the_o moral_a law_n of_o which_o nature_n also_o be_v certain_a homily_n of_o we_o from_o which_o these_o exceptor_n think_v they_o have_v so_o great_a advantage_n as_o well_o for_o not_o subscribe_v thereunto_o as_o for_o the_o overthrow_v this_o matter_n of_o the_o cross_n which_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n beside_o also_o that_o many_o thing_n be_v by_o comparison_n and_o symbolical_o draw_v by_o these_o disputer_n from_o the_o old_a testament_n to_o the_o new_a and_o so_o as_o the_o school_n say_v argumenta_fw-la symbolica_fw-la &_o comparativa_fw-la be_v parum_fw-la argumentativa_fw-la little_a or_o norh_v at_o all_o able_a to_o conclude_v any_o thing_n whereas_o those_o godly_a exhortation_n be_v make_v as_o the_o title_n of_o they_o show_v against_o the_o peril_n of_o idolatry_n and_o by_o way_n of_o great_a detestation_n and_o not_o according_a to_o their_o particular_a judgement_n what_o