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A12768 Maschil vnmasked In a treatise defending this sentence of our Church: vidz. the present Romish Church hath not the nature of the true Church. Against the publick opposition of Mr. Cholmley, and Mr. Butterfield, two children revolted in opinion from their owne subscription, and the faith of their mother the Church of England. By Thomas Spencer. Spencer, Thomas, fl. 1628-1629. 1629 (1629) STC 23073; ESTC S117745 62,307 124

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shall_v cease_v to_o be_v one_o in_o these_o word_n this_o sentence_n be_v imply_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v right_a and_o true_a false_a and_o erroneous_a together_o viz._n in_o different_a article_n and_o he_o do_v express_o avouch_v the_o same_o in_o divers_a passage_n of_o his_o book_n viz._n the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v corrupt_v and_o deform_v yet_o have_v the_o true_a essence_n of_o a_o church_n pag._n 30._o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v a_o religion_n more_o after_o homer_n then_o after_o the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o hold_v fundamental_a truth_n pag._n 4._o in_o the_o pope_n arithmetic_n article_n of_o faith_n be_v add_v pag._n 39_o such_o affirmative_n of_o we_o as_o concern_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n be_v profess_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag_n 41._o and_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a with_o he_o than_o word_n to_o this_o effect_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o be_v all_o those_o which_o lie_v in_o that_o religion_n 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