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A04540 A Christian plea conteyning three treatises. I. The first, touching the Anabaptists, & others mainteyning some like errours with them. II. The second, touching such Christians, as now are here, commonly called Remonstrants or Arminians. III. The third, touching the Reformed Churches, with vvhom my self agree in the faith of the Gospel of our Lord Iesus Christ. Made by Francis Iohnson, pastour of the auncient English Church, now sojourning at Amsterdam in the Low Countreyes. Johnson, Francis, 1562-1618. 1617 (1617) STC 14661; ESTC S107828 395,581 331

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in their idolatrie and chose rather to suffer affliction and death it self so as Ierusalem vvas filled vvith innocent blood 2 King 21 1 16. and 23 36 37. and 24 3. 4. Dan. 11 31 32 33. with 1 Machab. 1 ch and 2 Mach. 6 7 ch and Heb. 11 35 36 37 38. Yet was Iudah still acknowledged by the Prophets to be the church and people of God as hath ben shewed here before and may be seen throughout the historie and their Prophecies 3. And when Esay vvas enjoyned by the Lord in Ahaz dayes to bynd up the Testimonie and scale the Law among his disciples so keeping it from the wicked and perverse that stubburnely despised the word of God communicating it onely with the godly Esa 8 16. with 7 1. 2 Chron. 28 chapt yet euen then also he acknovvledgeth them to be the house of Jacob from whom the Lord hid his face and the people of God that should seek unto him to his law testimonie Esa 8 17 19 20. with 1 3. and 3 15. 10 2 24. 4. The Prophet Amos also teaching the people to avoyd al places assemblies of idolatrie and false vvorship did not onely teach them not to seek Bethel nor to enter into Gilgal which vvere places in Israel but taught them also not to passe over to Beershebah vvhich was † 1 Kin. 19 3. a city in Iudah Amo. 5 5. Yet did he acknovvledge them to be the familie of Israell which God brought out of Egypt and the people of God euen Jacob the Lords covenanted people c. as I haue shevved more largely ” Pag. 62 83. here before Amo. 3 1 2. 5 1. and 7 2 5 15. So vvhether it be Iudah or Israel consequently other Churches better or worse they may be acknovvledged for the churches and people of God and yet must be left vvhen they stand in apostasie schisme idolatrie c. and not be communicated vvithall in such sinfull estate and transgression 5. Here therefore is to be observed that as they are the church and people of God none are to leaue or refuse communion with them but onely as they stand in apostasy schisme false vvorship c. Neyther Israel nor Iudah might be left nor the Temple in Ierusalem as they were the people and Temple of God but as Ieroboam caused Israell to sinne setting up the calues at Dan and Bethell c. as Manasseh polluted the house of God and caused Iudah to sinne vvith his idols Antiochus profaned the Sanctuarie and compelled the Iewes to transgresse the Law of God c. Yea euen touching the Church of Rome also in particular vve neyther doe nor may leaue it as it is the Temple and church of God but as Antichrist sitteth therein opposing and exalting himself aboue all that is called God or that is divine polluting the Temple and vvorship of God c. Rom. 1 7 c. compared with 2 Thes 2 4. and Rev 11 1 2 3. c Which being observed vve doe and may yea and ought to acknovvledge reteyn any doctrine of trueth ordinances of God stil had among them and yet are bound to leaue their corrupt and sinfull estate and in obedience to God according to his word to returne to the auncient estate of that and the other primitiue churches as they vvere planted by the Apostles in the fayth and order of Christ Rev. 14 9 12. and 18 4. and 22 14. with Jer. 6 16. and 18 15. Song 1 7 8. 6. Moreover it is vvell known that among such as doe much urge this objection there are some vvho haue left the French reformed Church in Amst for some things now had continued in that church Whereupon it will necessarily follow that eyther they hold a true church may be left for some things had among them and yet be held to be the Church of God notwithstanding or els that they hold not the French church aforesaid to be the church of God in their estate Let them novv tel vvhether 7. It is also Popish to hold that the church cannot erre And Anabaptisticall to think that when a church so erreth as it falleth into idolatry apostasie or the like transgressions then they cease to be the church and people of God any longer and very Popish again in deed irreligious under the title of the church of God to urge all eyther to walk as themselues doe what ever transgressions they haue against the word of God or els to account thē hereticks schismaticks seditious singular new fangled that refuse so to doe endevouring to vvalk in the faith and order of Christ in all things according to the word of God 8. Whereupon it cometh to passe in this case as heretofore it did when that was counted heresy in the Apostles and primitiue Churches which vvas not so in deed Act. 24 5 14. So now at this day both by Papists and others that is often esteemed to be schisme which in deed is not so True it is that schisme is very carefully religiously to be avoyded vvhether it be factious division in the Church or scandalous departing from it 1 Cor. 11 18 19. Rom. 16 17. Heb. 10 25. Iude v. 11 16 19. God hath set an order in his church and appointed bounds and limits which none ●hould transgresse Col 2 5. 1 Cor. 14 33 40. 1 Thes 5 14. Iude ver 19. with Psal 17 4. Schismes and divisions hatred and variance emulations and vvrath strife and envyings are among the works of the flesh of vvhich the Apostle teacheth that they vvhich doe such things shall not inherit the kingdome of God 1 Cor. 3 3 4. Gal. 5 19 20 21. But on the other hand syncere obedience unto God and an holy keeping of the fayth worship order which he hath once giuen unto his church is very carefully also to be reteyned and religiously to be performed notwithstanding the prohibition or opposition of any Princes Prelates people churches or other persons vvhosoever For the Lord hath promised to shevv mercy to those that loue him and keep his commandements and threatned to visit the iniquitie of such as hate him and follow their ovvne inventions misconceived courses in his vvorship service c. Exo. 20 4 5 6. Lev. 10 chap. Numb 16 ch Esa 29 13 14. and 65 2 7. Jer. 6 14 17. and 18 15. Mat. 15 7 8 9. and 28 20. Col. 2 5. 1 Tim. 6 13 14. Iude v. 3 23. Rev. 2 10 24 25 26. and 14 12. and 22 14 18 19. But here it will be demaunded when how we may knovv the estate of any church or churches to be such as we may leaue it or not Touching vvhich question although I had rather heare learne of others then set dovvne myne ovvn mynd specially considering vvhat Opposites I haue of sundry sorts and vvhat great difficulties and waighty consequences doe follovv about this matter every way Yet
being desirous that the trueth and vvill of God herein may vvhat in us is be found out and observed I am not unvvilling to note downe some fevv things that I haue observed from the word of God hereabout leaving them to be examined by the Scriptures and both other things also to be annexed and these things withall to be further or otherwise observed as shal be found to be most according to God and godlynes And these they are viz. That no churches of God are to be left though having or falling into errors and corruptions 1. If their constitution be such as the Churches and Pastors thereof stand as touching their ecclesiasticall estate immediately under Iesus Christ as did each of the churches of Asia with the Angels thereof and all the other Primitiue Churches planted by the Apostles c. Rev. 2 1 7 12 18. and 3 1 7 14. Act. 14 23. and 20 17 28. with the churches at Rom. Cor. Gal. Eph. Phi. Col. Thes c. 2. If they also haue and reteyne povver vvithin themselues to redresse any errour or corruption and to receiue any truth of God as it shal be revealed unto them and they perswaded thereof by the vvord of God As may be seen also in the Churches aforesaid 3. And if the Ministers and other members of the church be not urged in their owne persons to any thing wherein they should sinne and transgresse the lavv of God but be left free for themselues and their owne practise to keep the lavves and ordinances of God according to their places and occasions As may be seen in the church of the Iewes wherein vvere corruptions sundry times and of sundry sorts vvhere yet the Prophets and other godly persons in divers ages and Christ himself his disciples thus lived among thē See 1 Kin. 14 21-24 and 15 1 2 3. c. with 2 Chron. 12. 13. and 14 ch c. For vvhich see the historie and estate of the Iewes in the time of the Judges and of Rehoboam Abiiah c. Also Esa 1 1. c. Ier. 1 1 2 3. c. Ezech. 1 and 2 and 3 and 16. and 20 ch c. Dan. 1 1 8. and 9 23. Mic. 1 1 11. c. Zeph. 1 1 c. Hag. 1 1 c. Zach. 1 1. c. Mal. 1 1. c. with the historie in Ezra and Nehemiah And Matt. 3 ch and 4 23. and 23 ch and 26 17 20. Luke 1 5 6 8 9 10 21. and 2 21 22 23 24. and 4 16 20. and 21 37 38. Joh. 2 13 23. and 6 4. and 11 55. and 13 1. Act. 13 14 14. and 17 1 2 3. 4. Lastly if they doe not obstinately refuse the truth way God whē it is manifested unto them perversely withstanding it themselues speaking evil thereof before others reviling persecuting such as teach or receiue it c. As may be seen in the said Church and Synagogues of the Ievves vvhich were not left untill they came to this untoward and perverse estate and condition For which see the historie of the Euangelists and Acts of the Apostles particularly Act. 2 40. and 7 51 52. and 13 14 45 51. and 18 6. and 19 8 9. and 28 23 28. 1 Tim. 6 3 4 5. and 2 Tim. 3 1 5 11. c. But if any churches fall into apostasie and become so degenerate as they their Pastors come to stand under an Antichristian hierarchie or popular anarchie and reteyne not power vvithin themselues according to the word of God to receiue any trueth shewed unto them and to redresse any error or corruption arising among them but that the ministers and members are urged in their ovvn persons to such actions and duties as they cannot performe without sinne neyther can be suffred to keepe vvhatsoever Christ hath commaunded them but must hold such a faith performe such a worship obserue such an order as is prescribed or allowed by Princes Prelates people c. that now any vvho knowe the trueth and discern the corruptions of such churches should still remaine Ministers or members thereof in such estate and so liue and dye I wish that such as are thus mynded or inclining this vvay vvould plainely set downe their opinions and reasons from the Word of God concerning this matter Or if they like not of this maner of propounding of it as here I haue done that themselues vvould distinctly set down their owne opinions hereabout alvvaies keeping to the points in controversy and insisting upon the things called in question omitting to speak of such things whether touching faith worship or order as are agreed upon on all hands And thus much for the present touching the Objection aforesaid novv I proceed to the next and last concerning these matters OBIECT●ON VII But † The Anabapt The Charact of the bapt p. 48. M. Ains Animad p 98-76 98. c. the Church of Rome whereunto many things are applyed that are taken from Israell is not the Church of God nor under the covenant of God nor hath any of the Lords posts or ordinances left in it but is divorced from the Lord c. Neyther is the church of England the Church of God having his covenant but is likewise divorced from the Lord c. Therefore also the baptisme had in those Churches and the like is not true baptisme but an idoll Iustif p. 121 278. 461. others a fiction a lying and deceitfull signe a cursed and detestable sacrament c. ANSWER This objection is of much like sort with those which we had before touching Israell and the circumcision thereof Whereunto therefore like ansvver may be giuen in sundry respects so as the former answers and reasons many of them may hither likewise be referred Neyther the things onely that are spoken of Israel but those also vvhich concerne Iudah in her apostasie and defection whereunto the estate of the Christian apostate church may fitly haue reference in divers respects Which would be long to rehearse and insist upon in particular The indifferent Reader vvill carefully obserue it And the point it self is plaine ynough and undenyable by the reference vvhich the Scripture in sundry things maketh thereunto 2 Thes 2 4. 2 Pet. 2 1. Rev. 11 1 6. and 12 5 6 14. and 13 5 6. and 14 1 15. and 16 12 16. and 19 1. c. Yet considering the objection here made together with the continuall urging thereof and how piteously the Anabaptists and others are by this meanes overcaried with prejudice and drawen from the vvay of trueth to great error and iniquitie I haue thought it not amisse to note also somevvhat hereabout And first to speak of the church of Rome in particular I pray all to take knowledge that my mynd and desire in my self is and I trust shal be alway to plead against the present estate of that church and not for it acknovvledging it to be fallen into most sinful and deep defection and
of God wholly and onely on the good pleasure of his vvill but upon the faith holines unbelief or wickednes of men foreseen In the third by extending the redemption of Christ further then the intendement of God yea euen to the reprobate them selues In the fourth by ascribing our conversion and salvation in part to our selues our owne free vvill not vvholly and onely to the free gift of God and povverfull vvork of his grace in us In the first and last by debasing in deed the unchangeable decree and firme promises of God the mightie power and faithfull custodie of Christ our Lord the comfortable presence assured pledge and gracious vvork of the holy Ghost in his Saints and faithfull people Therefore such doctrines and opinions of theirs are erroneous and greatly disagreeing from the truth vvhich is according to godlines Let him that readeth consider And the Lord giue us aright to understand his vvord humbly to obey his vvill and faithfully to hold his truth unto the end Amen Now unto him that is able to keep us from falling and to present us faultlesse before the presence of his glorie with exceeding joy to the onely wise God our Saviour be glorie and majestie dominion and power now and ever Amen Jude v. 24.25 THE THIRD TREATISE Of some things which concerne the worship of God and order of the Church especially concerning the Reformed Churches HAving now briefly treated of these points of Religion which are called in question betvveen the Remonstrants and others of the Reformed Churches I will here also annexe some other things concerning the Reformed Churches themselues Which I acknowledge to be the Churches of Christ and with whom I agree both in the faith of Christ and in many things concerning the order and government of the church Yet because there are some particulars of vvaight touching the vvorship of God and policie of the Church wherein I think they are not as yet come to the synceritie of the Primitiue Churches constitution and am persvvaded that the Lord is now bringing his churches and people thereunto from the apostasie and corruptions of Antichrist the man of sinne and that he vvill in time accomplish this his work already begun vvhether before or together with the conversion of the Iewes to the Christian faith the Lord knovveth and time vvill manifest therefore haue I thought it good herevvithal to note some few things thereabout The particulars are not all of them of like waight or evidence in mine ovvne perswasion but some of them such as far more may be said and borne vvith about them then about others of them Neyther doe all of them concerne al the Reformed churches alike but some of them more and some lesse inasmuch as their estate in divers Churches and places doth diversly differ hereabout Yet notvvithstanding I thought it not amisse thus to propound thē here together desiring of al that they would seriously consider these things in the fear of God and according to his word hoping that the due consideration thereof wil through the blessing of God become profitable for the furtherance of the truth and further building up of the church to the praise of his name in Iesus Christ CHAPTER I. Touching Book prayer VVHether it be the Lords ordinance that his churches servants should vvhen they pray read their prayers out of a book euen certaine set vvords imposed by men and so use a forme and manner of prayer and leitourgie devised and prescribed by man for their spirituall sacrifice of prayer and vvorship of God And consequently vvhether it be lavvfull for us in such maner to vvorship the Lord. Exod. 20 4 5 6. and 30 9. compared with Psal 141 2. Esa 29 13. vvith Mat. 15 9. Lev. 10 1 Mal. 1.8 14. Rom. 8 26. Ephes 4 8 12. 1 Pet. 2 5. Rev. 8 3 c. I. Seeing that the book-prayer aforesaid being not appointed by the Lord or approved in his word is an invention of Man in the vvorship of God And mens inventions in Gods vvorship are transgressions of the second commandement Exod. 20 4 5. vvith Lev. 10 1. Judg. 8 27. Psa 119 113 128. Esa 29 13. and 30 21 22 II. Thus also it is as an image similitude of spiritual prayer which yet it is not And so these books and stinted prayers prescribed by man in the vvorship of God come in deed to be idols supplying the place of the vvord and spirit of God vvhich ought not to be In vvhich respect such manner of worship becommeth idolatrous superstitious forbidden of the Lord and not to be communicated vvithall For vvhat agreement hath the temple of God vvith Idols 2 Cor. 6.16 Exod. 20 4 5 6. compared vvith Rom. 8 26. Ephes 6 18. 1 Pet. 2 5. and vvith the other Scriptures aforesaid and the like III. The incense offred by the Priests upon the golden Altar in the time of the Lavv vvas a type of prayer offred up unto God by the mediation of Christ Psal 141 2. Rev. 8 3 4. And therefore as it vvas not lavvfull to use any straunge incense but that onely vvhich God appointed so neither is it lavvful to use any straunge manner of prayer but such onely as the Lord requireth Exod. 30 9. vvith Psal 141 2. Now that the Lord did ever ordeyne in his vvorship the book-prayer aforesaid vvho can shevv Yea or that any of the godly either the Patriarks Prophets Apostles or other men or vvomen recorded in the Scriptures when they vvould pray unto God did ever take a book in their hands to read out of it some stinted prayers prescribed by men for their sacrifice of prayer and supplication to God Or can vve think if this vvere the manner of prayer and worship vvhich God required that the Scripture would be silent in it or that none of the servants of God set before us for examples in the Scriptures should ever use it or that vve should prescribe or use such manner of prayer in the worship of God as never any of the godly mētioned in the Scripture did use If then in the time of the Legall shadovves under Moses God vvould not admit of any straunge thing in his worship but did severely punish it as may be seen in the example of Nadab and Abihu Levit. 10 1. hovv shall vve thinke that he vvill novv admit of any straunge manner of prayer for his worship in the time of the Gospel under Christ whenas Christ the sonne is vvorthy of more honour then Moses the servant Heb. 3 3 5 6. IIII. It derogateth from the honour fruit and benefit of the ascension of Christ vvho ascending up on high hath giuen gifts unto men for the worke of the ministerie and therefore as vvell for prayer as for doctrine and preaching c. Eph. 4 8 12. vvith Act. 6 4. If any be not indued vvith such gifts there is no vvarrant to chuse them to be ministers of Christ If they be so
besides the fyer which consumed the two hundred fiftie men that offred incense the earth opened and swallowed up Dathan covered the company of Abiram their wiues their sonnes their litle children and all that appertayned unto them Num. 16. chap. with Psal 106 17 18. where there is mention of litle children in particular Numb 16 27. Like as there is also at the slaughter made in Ierusalem for the abominations done in the midst thereof Ezec. 9 1 6. And to conclude if children vvere not through sinne subject to death yea and to eternall death condemnation then should ●●ey need no Saviour and why then needed Christ in respect of them ●●●take part with children of flesh and blood that through death he might destroy ●n that had the power of death that is the Divell as the Apostle teacheth Heb. ● 14. And thus much by this occasion touching Originall sinne in children CHAPTER III. Wheher the Baptisme that is received in the apostaticall Churches of Christians as in the Church of Rome and the like is to be renounced a new to be repeated again or not ANother great errour also it is to think that the baptisme had in the Church of Rome or other apostate Churches is not to be regarded but to be renounced and another to be received anevv Which opinion vvhereupon soever it arise whether upon the denying of baptisme to children vvhich is used in the Churches aforesaid or upon other erroneous perswasions touching apostate Churches or the baptisme thereof certaine it is and evident by the Scriptures to be against the vvord and vvill of God and therefore to be sinfull so to hold or practise I. Which first may appeare by this that there is neyther precept not example nor other ground in all the Scriptures either in the Old or Nevv Testament for renouncing repeating nevv requiring or admitting thereof And therefore such perswasions new baptismes are not from heauen but of men Contrary to the baptisme of Iohn and the Apostles vvhich was from the Lord. Matt. 21 25. and 28 18 19 20. Joh. 1 25 33. with Act. 15 24. Gal. 5 7 8. II. Secondly there is one Baptisme as there was one Circumcision And Baptisme had in the apostate churches of Christians is answerable to circumcision retayned in Israels apostasie Now circumcision being once received in the apostasie of Israell was not repeated again at their returning to the Lord and leaving of their idolatrous vvayes to serue him according to his word but they that vvere so circumcised were vvithout any new circumcision of the flesh accepted at Ierusalem and admitted to the Passeover of vvhich none might eat that was uncircumcised In like maner also Baptisme being once received in the apostaticall churches of Christians is not to be repeated agayn when any so baptised returne unto the Lord and forsake their idolatries submitting themselues to the truth of the Gospel but they are without any new baptizing vvith water to be received of the Churches of Christ and admitted to the Lords supper vvhereof none may eat being unbaptized For these examples of Israell as all other things in the Scriptures written aforetyme are aforevvritten for our instruction and comfort Eph. 4 5. with Gen. 17 10 13. Ez● 12 48 49. 2 Chron. 30 chap. Jer. 9 26. Hos 1 2. Ier. 50 4 5 19 20. and 51 5. with Ezech. 16 and 23 chap. Ezr. 6 19 20 21. with Rom. 15 4. III. Also the covenant of Gods grace in Christ is * Gen. 17 7. Psa 89 30 34. and 106 45. and 111 5 9. Gal. 3 8 29. Heb. 13 8 20. with Deut. 4 30 31. and 29 10 15. and 30 chap. Rom. 11 15 16 28 29. an everlasting covenant into vvhich it pleased God to take us vvith Abraham our father vvhen he made that covenant vvith him his seed for ever And as the Lord himself vvho knoweth his works from the beginning † Iudg. 2 11. c. 2 King 13 23. and 14 27. 2 Chron. 15 3 4. and 30 6 7 8 9. Jer. 51 5. Ezech. 16 2 60. c. and 28 10 24 25 26. with 32 24 32. Hos 3 1. and 13 4 5. Col. 2 10 13. Rev. 18 4. hath regard unto it in his mercifull dealing concerning his people in apostaticall Churches and estate so ought we also our selues carefully to haue respect thereunto in the consideration of baptisme thus received as in all other things according to the word of God and manifold occasions ministred from the Lord. IIII. And seeing Christ dyed to sinne once being raysed from the dead dyeth no more but liveth to God And we are buryed vvith him by baptisme into his death to be planted with him likevvise to the similitude of his resurrection therefore also all that are once baptized into his name ought still to reteine it for continuall use and comfort and not agayn to repeat it any more then there is repetition of Christs death and sacrifice once offered to take avvay sinne Rom. 6 8 11. with ver 3 4 5. and Act. 13 34. Heb. 7 27. and 9 25 29. and 10 10 14. 1 Pet. 3 18. Revel 1 18. with Matth. 28 19 20. Act. 2 38 39 41 42. and 10 48. 1 Cor. 1 13. and 6 11. 12 13. Gal. 3 27 28 29. 1 Pet. 3 21 22. Rev. 1 4 6. V. And touching the Church of Rome in particular it cannot be denyed but that Church was espoused to Christ in the covenant of grace by the Gospel of salvation having baptisme with the rest of Christs ordinances in the Apostles dayes hath ever since reteyned it with other grounds of Christian religion notwithstanding all her adulteries and apostasie whereinto she is fallen As may be seen both in that Church it self all other churches vvhich are the daughters thereof in their constitution eyther for faith or order or both in vvhole or in part And hereunto as in Iudahs and Israels apostasies heretofore so novv in all cases and questions of this nature due respect is alvvay to be had As may appeare by these Scriptures Rom. 7 1 8. and 6 3 4. with Revel 17 chap. and 18 4. Gen. 17 7 14. with Jud. 2 11 12. c. 1 King 14 22 23 24. 2 Kin. 21 and 24 25 chap. Psal 89 30 34. 2 King 9 6. 13 23. 14 27. Ier. 2 ch Eze. 16 2 44 60 c. and 20 and 23 chap. Dan. 9. chap. Hos 2 chap. and 3 1. and 12 9. 14 1. 2 Chro. 30 6 7 8 9. with 15 3 4. Lev. 12 2 3. and 26 14 45. Deut. 4 25 31. and 29 10 15. and ●0 chap. with Rom. 11 15 16. Hebr. 7 9 10. VI. They professe Iesus to be the Christ to be the sonne of God mani●●●●●● in the flesh that dyed for the sinnes of the vvorld that by his sacri●●●● and death upon the crosse hath reconciled us unto God and payed 〈◊〉 ●ood as a full and sufficient
vvay namely Gods ordinance of the Eldership vvhich should carefully be kept intire against all usurpation both of the Prelacy of the one hand and of the people on the other Thirdly I doe now obserue more and in some things othervvise then before a difference between the churches constitution the hierarchie of Antichrist brought in upon it also betvveen Antichrist vvith his hierarchie whereabout our question is not and the Temple or church of God vvherein he sitteth whereabout our question is whereunto this man keepeth not Of which more hereafter besides that vvhich hath ben spoken thereabout already His reproachfull speaches here and throughout his book I leaue upon his ovvne head And now I come unto his ansvver which next follovveth Where first he answereth that in the former allegation of 2 Thes 2 4. the reason deduced from thence truth and error are closely cowched together But he telleth not vvhat he acknovvledgeth for truth and what he taketh to be error If so he had done it may be he would haue ben found eyther to acknowledge the trueth vvhich novv he sets himself to oppugne or that his ovvne errors vvould the sooner and better haue appeared which he vvould novv covvch and cary avvay as closely as he can But for discerning hereof he saith we are to consider first how Antichrists church is described in Gods vvord secondly what the state of the church of Rome is at this day And so proceeding in his description he speaketh of the Church and Synagogue of Antichrist of the Beast of the great City of the man of sinne of the great vvhore of Abaddon or Apollyon the sonne of perdition c. whereas he should treat of the Temple of God vvhereof Paul speaketh vvhose writings I suppose he vvill not deny to be Gods vvord But thus it was best for his plea to keep what he could from the point of the question in hand therefore also to confound things that differ as he doeth throughout his treatise So all his plea is frivolous and not to the purpose Likevvise when † M. Ain Animad p. 77. he tels us of a Church such as Bellarmine and others describe one part vvhereof liues on earth an other under the earth and a third part in heauen c. whereas our question is of the Temple of God vvhereof Paul speaketh 2 Thes 2 4. and of the Court and holy City vvhereof Iohn speaketh Revel 11 2. vvhich heretofore * M. Ain defence of Script p. 12 13 14 15. this man himself acknovvledged and proved by the Scriptures to be the Church of God Yet the writings of Bellarmine and other Papists were extant then asvvell as now and the novv Romish religion whereof he speaketh described their church then as novv it doeth But the case is altered with himself vayn shifts pretences are become his usuall pleas in opposition of the truth and for the maintenance of his errors and evill dealing After these things premised comming as he saith to our arguments he speaketh as follovveth M. Ainsw p. 77 78. Their first reason saith he from 2 Thes 2 4. is unperfectly alledged for the text there saith of the Man of sinne that he doth sit as God in the Temple of God whereupon their conclusion must be that Antichrist sitteth as God in the Church of God And if they can proue that he is the true God I will yeeld that his Temple is the true Temple and his church the true church Otherweise if he be but an Idoll and not God his Temple church and body will proue but an Idoll like himself and his blasphemie is vvorse then theirs which said “ Rev. 2 9 and 3 9. they were Ievves and were not but did lye and vvere the Synagogue of Sathan These are M. Ainsw words and this answer he giveth to that vvhich I observed out of 2 Thes 2 4. vvhich I noted dovvne † Pag. 140. here a litle before Now hovv full of shifts errors absurdities abuse of Scripture and contradiction to himself this ansvver is the text and matter it self declareth Of vvhich I vvill speak straight vvay But first mark and in some respects marvell how all these should proceed from this man in this matter in one and so short a speach passage if it vvere not that God would thus shew his just work in him for the more humbling of himself and warning of others by his example to take heed of such cariage and dealing as he is fallen into Novv touching the matter in hand although I could alledge vvhich perhaps himself would upon like occasion that those words as God where about he cavileth and useth his course of shifting are not in the Claromontane Greek copie of the Original neyther in the Syriack or old Latin Translations Bez. Annot in 2 Thes 2 4 as M. Beza observeth in his Annotations upon this place yet vvil I not insist thereupon but keep unto the vvords as they are in the Greek copies and translations usually And first let this be noted remembred that the question here treated off vvas vvhether the church of Rome vvere the church of God or no vvhereupon I alledged those vvords of the Apostle vvhere he saith that Antichrist should sit in the Temple of God 2 Thes 2 4. and so insisted thereon And that the question vvas not about the maner of Antichrists sitting in the Temple of God vvhether he should sit as God therein or no. For that was not the point in hand nor is called in question betvven us And therefore I needed not novv alledge these words or insist thereupon And this is knowen to be usuall in all vvriters and disputers sometimes not so much as to mention sometimes not to insist at all upon such words whether of Scripture or of other vvriters as perteyn not to the argument and matter in hand or may well be omitted in other respects Which this man himself knovveth so vvell as I need not giue him any instances thereof Let his ovvn vvritings and other mens be observed hereabout Or to let them alone obserue but these allegations in the Scripture with the particulars there mentioned and treated off viz. Heb. 12 26. compared with Hag. 2 6. Also Rom. 10 6 7 8. with Deut. 30 11 14. And Mat. 21 8. with Zach. 9 9. So all this ansvver is but a shift and a meer cavill Secondly for the question and point in hand mark the words of the text that the Man of sin opposeth exalteth himself aboue al that is called God c. so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of God c. In the Temple of God saith the text it saith not As in the Temple of God as this mans exception would imply with the inferences made thereupon In deed the Apostle speaking of the maner of Antichrists sitting saith that he sitteth as God but speaking of the seat where he sitteth he saith expressely in the Temple of God and saith
not as in the Temple of God as the answer here would import vvhich therefore is meerly shifting and full of deceit Thirdly he doeth not onely corrupt the text with evill gloses one upon another but he doeth in deed abuse the Scripture and directly pervert it vvhen for an inference he saith If they can proue that Antichrist is the true God c. as if Pauls vvords were not plaine to such as will understand that Antichrist exalteth himself aboue all that is called God so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of God c. and therefore is not the true God but the man of sinne sonne of perdition although that he as God sit in the Temple of God shewing himself that he is God 2 Thes 2 4. Fourthly difference is to be put as I haue noted here before between the man of sinne that sitteth and betvveen the Temple vvherein he sitteth The Man of sinne himself saith the Apostle sitteth as God yet the Temple wherein he sitteth saith the same Apostle is the Temple of God And othervvise how is it possible if he vvere in deed true God sitting in the Temple of God that he should also be the Man of sinne and sonne of perdition c. But see the like in the cases † Pag. 125 126. c. before mentioned that fell out at Ierusalem and the Temple there vvhen Baals Idoll of indignation vvas set at the entry of the house of God Ezech. 8 3 5. and vvhen Antiochus Epiphanes and his Officers profaned the Sanctuarie city of Ierusalem and set the image of Iupiter Olympius in the Temple and seat of God Dan. 11 31 36. c. who vvould not novv put difference between the idols and persons aforesaid on the one hand and betvveen the Temple and city of God vvherein they vvere set vvhich they polluted on the other And if question should be made vvhether the Temple and city so polluted vvere yet still notwithstanding the Temple and city of God and one for proof thereof should alledge the Scriptures aforesaid would any Opposite now reasoning thereabout be so absurde and voyd of reason as to make this or such like inference thereupon If they can proue that the idoll of Baal or Iupiter that Antiochus or any of his Officers is the true God then I wil yeeld that Baals Temple Jupiters Temple Antiochus and his Officers Temple is the true Temple and their city the true city Otherwise c. Or vvho vvould not rather in the feare of God reason thus Although that Baal Iupiter Antiochus and his Officers be idols and vile persons yea an abomination of desolation yet the Sanctuarie and city of Ierusalem wherein they were set and which they profaned were still Gods Temple and holy city notvvithstanding Fiftly obserue here throughout his treatise hovv still he calleth that the Temple Church and body of Antichrist vvhich Paul expressely and purposely calleth the Temple of God And so therein note still his shifts and his errours c. When Antiochus had polluted the Temple of God at Jerusalem and had set the image of Iupiter Olympius therein he sent then also an old man of Athens to compell the Iewes to call it the Temple of Jupiter Olympius 2 Mach. 6 1 2. Antichrist likevvise typed by Antiochus hath polluted the Temple of God in the church of Rome other like churches sitting therein as God and shewing himself to be God 2 Thes 2 4. and novv cometh this man of himself and like the old man of Athens wil needs call it perswade others to esteem and call it the Temple of Antichrist the church of Antichrist the body of Antichrist the Synagogue of Sathan c. Sixtly he doeth not onely pervert the Scripture but also crosse contradict it vvhiles that vvhich the Apostle saith is the Temple of God he saith it is an idoll like Antichrist himself Finally hovv ever he vvould shift of pervert obscure this Scripture and the matter in hand yet the light of the trueth so shineth before his eyes as euen here himself is forced to note and set it downe that upon the Apostles words who saith the man of sinne sitteth as God in the Temple of God our conclusion must be that Antichrist sitteth as God in the church of God These are his owne words and so in deed let this be our conclusion that Antichrist as the Apostle saith is exalted aboue all that is called God or that is worshipped so that he as God sitteth in the church of God Now then this man himself cannot deny but the Apostles vvords will beare this inference yea he saith our conclusion must be thus hereupon So notwithstanding all his strugling and opposition here against he is now driuen nill he will he to giue us the cause against himself and to overthrovv all his ovvne writing hereabout Which being novv done by himself I may the better spare labour in manifesting the vanity and iniquity of his pretended exceptions Onely because the point is of vvaight and of needfull use against the Papists and Anabaptists I will here briefly note a fevv things more which may giue some light for the present and occasion of further search hereafter about this matter And first seeing novv themselues affirme that our conclusion upon the Apostles words must be this that Antichrist as God sitteth in the church of God I aske vvhat church of God it is vvhereof the Apostle saith here that Antichrist as God sitteth therein If they say it is the church of Rome they giue us the cause If they say it is not the church of Rome but some other let them then shew it But in the vvhole processe of this treatise of theirs they still speak of the church of Rome And all the termes that here are used by the Apostle of the man of sinne the sonne of perdition his opposition his exaltation his sitting as God his shewing himself to be God c. they apply to Antichrist the Pope of Rome and his hierarchie But vvhen they come to this other clause of the Temple of God to expound it of the Temple body and Church of Antichrist the Synagogue of Sathan the Temple of the divell c. as they speak almost in every sentence of their treatise hereabout and this also in such sort as they vvill not haue it understood to be the church of God hovv straunge is this how far differing from their better and sounder vvritings heretofore If vve should thus expound and apply the Scripture what outcryes should we heare what reproach should we beare at their hands When M. Sm. as vve savv ‘ Pag. 133 erevvhile applied the city court without the Temple spoken off Rev. 11 2. to the confused assemblies of Antichrist Antichristian persecuters M. Ains could not bear it that the Court of the Temple should betoken Antichrists church c. but did soundly convince and sharply rebuke him Yet now loe himself in this treatise
then apply it unto that vvhereof it vvas a figure and accordingly understand it Or may not vve so understand and apply it as the Apostle doeth vvho as himself saith here applies it to a particular church 1 Cor. 3 16 17. vvith which place may be joyned 2 Cor. 6.16 though that may also be further extended Besides was not the Temple in Israell for any and every Synagogue familie and person among them And may not we now accordingly apply it to the Churches and Christians of the Gentiles And that the more seeing that then also it vvas for them cōming to the faith of Israel vvhether mo or fevver Or vvere not the Ievves distributed into severall and particular Synagogues which being joyntly considered vvere and might be esteemed as one people And are not the Christians euen those among whom Antichrist hath most prevayled distributed likewise into particular churches or parishes Which if any would in some good respect consider joyntly as one people vvho would striue about it so as it were not any way abused for maintenance of any errour against the trueth or vvord of God But of this I will not insist neyther alledge other things that here might be observed That alone may suffice vvhich I noted here before By reason whereof also I need not stand on that vvhich he speaketh about the catholick or universall church seing it is ynough for the matter in hand to find it in the particular churches so as is aforesaid Yet some things by this occasion may here be noted vvithall As namely that the Church of Christ is sometimes accounted as one ‘ Sal. Song 4 12 16. and 5 1. 6 2 11 garden being considered joyntly in one sometimes as many or sundry * Sal. Song 4 15. 6 2. 8 13 gardens in respect of the divers particular congregations thereof Each of which particular ones both is a garden it self and is also a part of that one or universal garden of the Lord. So as he vvhich dwelleth the trees herbes vvhich grovv in any one of these may be said to dwell and grovv not onely in that particular garden alone but also in the general or universall garden as it compriseth al the particular gardens within it they being al of them parts of the generall Likevvise the Church is sometimes resembled by ‘ Exod. 25 31. 2 Chr. 13 11. Zac. 4 2 11. one Candlestick having one shank or shaft out of which come divers branches vvherein are * Exod. 25 37. with Rev. 1 11 12 20. and 2 3 ch seuen severall lampes so as the light vvhich is set in any one of the lampes standeth not onely in that particular lampe but in the generall candlestick sometimes by “ 2 King 7 49. 2 Chron. 4 7. ten candlesticks sometimes by ‡ Rev. 11 4. two c. so noting both one catholick Church in generall divers particular Congregations in speciall sometimes moe sometimes fewer yet so as they are alwaies parts and members of the generall or universall vvhether they be moe in number and more florishing or fevver more decaying Where note moreover that the Candlesticks and Lampes were set in the Temple of God and that the church of Rome vvas a golden Candlestick as well as the rest of the Primitiue Churches that this man himself saith definitely † Animad p. 103. the true churches were many of them apostate when John wrote whom yet notwithstanding the Scripture calleth Christ acknowledgeth them to be ” Rev. 1 11 12 20. and 2 1. golden candlesticks In any of vvhich if Antichrist the man of sinne had sit as in the church of Rome I suppose this man vvould not deny but his fitting then should haue ben in the Temple of God whether it vvere cōsidered as a particular Lampe and Candlestick it self ’‘ M. Brig on Rev. 11 4. or as a branch also and part of the great and generall Candlestick vvhich is ” Rev. 1 11 12 20. and 2 1. observed in the respects aforesaid to be a type both of the Catholick church and of the particular Congregations thereof like as here the Temple is by this man himself acknowledged and rightly also to be a type of both Animad pag. 78. As for the catholick or universall Church which the Pope claymeth for his Temple what is that to us vvho speak of the Temple of God spoken off by the Apostle 2 Thes 2 4. And vvhereas he vvould be taught hovv that vvhorish company that worship the Beast and Dragon can be the true catholike church spouse of Christ although that which I haue noted before be sufficient for the point in hand neither meane I now to insist on other things yet seeing thus he speaketh here let him first remember hovv but a litle before he told us ‘ Animad p. 77. the catholike church of the novv Romish religion as themselues describe it hath one part thereof on earth another under the earth and a third part in heauen now here himself speaketh onely of such as are on earth and those also such as vvorship the Dragon and the Beast spoken off Rev. 13 4. whereas the Catholick Church in deed conteyneth al the Churches and people of God that haue ben from the beginning of the world before ever there vvas a church yea or a city at Rome and that shal be to the end of the vvorld in any and every age thereof and in another respect all and onely the elect of God both Angels and men 2. And let himself now tell us vvhether he think there was no other church or churches of Christians catholick or particular vvherein Antichrist sate synce the apostasie of the Man of sinne but such as worshipped the Dragon which gaue power unto the Beast and the beast also himself withall Rev. 13 4. And who then were the Tabernacle those that dwelt in heauen whom the beast blasphemed and the Saints with whom he made vvarre tvvo and fourty moneths Rev. 13 5 6 7. and of vvhat church or churches they were considering also that the apostasie began so soone and spread so far and continued so long 2 Thes 2 3 7. with Rev. 11 1 2 c. 3. Let him also remember how Ierusalem came to be ‘ Ezec. 16 2 35 c. and 23 2 43. c an harlot old in adulteries and the Ievves to be ” Esa 1 4 5 c. a sinfull nation laden with iniquitie forsaking the Lord and revolting more and more yea * Esa 57 3 4 5. c. sonnes of the so●ceresse the seed of the adulterer and the whore “ Esa 65 2 3 c. a rebellious people which walked in a way not good after their ovvne thoughts ‡ 2 Chron. 36 14. c. transgressing after all the abominations of the heathen and polluting the house of the Lord which he had hallowed in Ierusalem c. vvhenas yet they vvere
haue also shevved that euen the church of Rome is the church and Temple of God as Iudah likevvise and Israell of old vvere in the time of their apostasies How much more then should we so esteem of the church of England yea and of the Lutherans vvho haue in so many things novv left the apostasie of the church of Rome and haue received the doctrine of justification by faith in Christ alone vvith many other precious doctrines of truth that are yet still miserably depraved and corrupted among the Papists But hereupon some object and say If they be the church of God none may leaue them it is schisme for any to leaue those that are the churches and people of God and vvhy then doe you not continew Ministers and members there still c. First to this objection I haue ansvvered before pag. 116 c. To vvhich I referre the Reader as also to that which M. Iunius hath written concerning this matter as may be seen here before pag. 184 186. Secondly if this objection were sound then might none leaue the present estate of the church of Rome seeing they are the church and Temple of God as before hath ben declared Yet the men that doe thus object haue many of them left it themselues And M. Iunius shevveth that both these may stand vvel together to esteem it to be the church of God and yet to leaue forsake it in their estate yea that it is our duty so to doe But in deed to note this by the vvay wel may it be that some Protestant writers otherwise of great good judgment haue heretofore the more denied it to be the Church of God because they thought if that were granted it vvould then follow to be schisme for any to leaue it as the Papists themselues are vvoont usually to object But the consequence is not good as is shewed before by the Scriptures and examples both in Iudah and Israell c. Pag. 116. Thirdly in a Church there are tvvo things specially that are still to be respected the faith and the order thereof Col. 2 5. For touching the worship of God therein it may in divers respects be referred to the one or to the other or to both of them Novv for the Faith which is in Christ alone to salvation we acknowledge that they professe it soundly and in the unity thereof vve also hope our selues to be saved with them and therefore albeit they intreat deale yll with us sundry vvaies yet we hold them to be our brethren in the Lord and in the faith of his Gospell But as for the churches order worship and government ecclesiasticall vve hold and professe that they stand yet still greatly corrupted and transgressing the second commandement many waies As namely ‡ Of these more particularly see in the Apologie and other Treatises of ours also in the Treatise here following touching the reformed churches in their Prelacie and inferiour ministerie in their Canons Constitutions and Worship devised and imposed by man especially in the Book of common prayer according to which all the ministers and people of that Church are enjoyned to minister and partake of the holy things of God had among them vvherein are corruptions not a few that are also observed and written against † The Abridgement of the Ministers book of Lincolne Diocesse The Survey of the book of Common praier c by divers of themselues besides the refusal opposition persecution of the trueth vvhich hath now a long time very often many vvaies benshewed unto them c. And yet more specially that the particular churches ministers thereof stand not as the primitue Churches and Pastors did immediately under Iesus Christ the Archpastor as touching their ecclesiasticall constitution but under another spirituall authoritie and Prelacie devised by man neyther haue povver in themselues as now they stand to receiue and practise all the ordinances of God to redresse all errors and corruptions that are manifested unto them by the vvord of God as the Pastors and Churches aforesaid had Which things standing thus hereby may appeare that none can stand Ministers or members of the Church aforesaid in their estate and performe the dueties thereof according to the Lavves and Constitution thereof but they shall sinne and transgresse the second Commandement Which the Lord that is a jelous God accounteth to be hatred of him and hath threatned severely to punish as on the contrarie he hath promised to shew mercy graciously to them that loue him and keep his commandements Exod. 20 4 5 6. compared with Lev. 10 1 2. Deut. 4 1 2. 2 King 10 18 31. 2 Chron. 19 2 3. Luke 19 27. Psal 119 126 127 128. Esa 29 13. and 65 2. Mal. 1 6 14. Mar. 7 4 6 7. c. Col. 2 20 23. Rev. 14 9 12. and 22 18 19. Fourthly which commeth to a like end vvith the former reason but yet vvill make it more plaine there are two things concerning the vvorship and service of God which we ought alwaies carefully to remember and obserue One that we ought to leaue and forsake all the inventions of men and more specially al the mixtures and corruptions of Antichrist the man of sinne in the service and worship of God And this not onely in things concerning the faith but in such also as concerne the order of the church Exod. 20 4 5. with Deut. 12 32. Iudg. 8 27. 1 Chro. 13. 15 2. c. 2 Chron. 33 17. Psal 119 101 113 128. Esa 30 21 22. Ezech. 43 8. Mal. 1 6 14. Matt. 15 9 13 14. Rom. 16 17. Rev. 14 9 12. and 22 18 19. The other is that vve obserue and practise all the commandements and ordinances of the Lord vvhich he hath once for all giuen unto his church vvhether concerning the faith or the order of the church and so consequently the Churches government vvorship ministerie ministration of all every of the holy things of God according to his vvord Exod. 20 6. compared with Deut. 12 32. Matth. 28 20. Gal. 3 15. Jude v. 3. 1 Tim. 6 13 14. 2 Chron. 13 8 12. and 19 8 11. Psal 119 101 128. Esa 30 21. and 33 22. Rev. 14 12. Which two things seeing that in the present estate of the church of England neither ministers nor members can obserue them nor be suffred peaceably so to vvalke hovv can it be but we must needs leaue that estate unlesse vve should still continew in sinne against the Law of God And hovv can that justly be counted schisme vvhich is our bounden duty to the Lord vvherein vve ought to obey God rather then Man Fiftly to make the matter yet more plaine let us put the case that some Kings and States vvould permit the Churches in their dominions peaceably to enjoy the ministerie of the word and the Baptisme of elder people among them but not of children urging those words according to the letter Make disciples
put for the Congregation of governours meeting at a knovvne time and place c. Psal 82 1. Num. 25 12. and 27 2. with 36 1. Iosh 20 4 5 6. Exod. 12 3 21. Lev. 8 3 5. with 9 1 3. See also M. Ainsvv Counterpoyson pag. 113. And note hovv R. Salomon understandeth those words in Lev. 4 13. If the whole ” Ghnedah Congregation of Israell sinne through ignorance c. of the Iudges of the Sanhedrin vvhich represented the whole Congregation As * Drusij Com. in locu difficil Pentat●ch p. 244. Drusius noteth upon that place Besides that if the vvord vvere Kahal yet ‡ As M. Ains himself also acknovvledgeth Count. p. 113. that word also sometimes is used for the assemblie of Elders and Governours the Synedrion c. 1 Chron. 13 1 2. and 29 1 6. compared vvith 28 1 2. and 2 Chron. 1 2 3. Deu. 23 1 2. and 31 28 30. and so is translated by the word Synedrion in the Septuagint Pro. 26 26. For which moreover see Psal 26 4 5. where for those vvords I haue not sit vvith vaine persons I haue hated the congregation of evill doers c. the Septuagint hath I haue not sit vvith the Synedrion or councill of vanity I haue hated the Congregation of the malignant c. or the church of evill doers as M. Ains translateth it how ever he passe over that point touching the Synedrion in his notes upon that place Which may the more be observed because the Psalme there useth the termes of sitting and of taking bribes and the like which the Scripture also otherwhere often ascribeth to Rulers and Governours And now that I am speaking of this matter it is also worth the noting how M. Ains himself a notable adversarie of this exposition cannot deny but that † M. Ain Animadv pag. 13. in the old Testament he hath observed the word Church to meane the congregation of Elders Yet to obscure the trueth and blynd his follovvers vvith vanity and errour vvhat he can herein he addeth this glose vvithall concerning it that now the old Testament is chaunged And vvhat if another now should arise and say in like sort that in the old Testament he hath observed the vvord Church to meane the Congregation of the people but that novv the old Testament is chaunged vvould not himself readily discerne and condemne the vanity and errour of such ansvvers and assertions Wherabout note that the speach is not of the legal covenant of works or the Curse thereof neyther of the ceremonies or any changeable ordinances of the Law as sometimes by the old Testament is understood but of the Scriptures and books of the old Testament and of the vvords and phrases used therein Touching vvhich he saith the old Testament novv is chaunged Which if it were true as he saith then should we be freed from the use of those vvords and Scriptures and whosoever obserue them should make Christ unprofitable unto them For so are we freed and set at libertie from the yoke of the Law old Testament that novv is changed Gal. 5 1 2. Col. 2 8 16 17 20. Heb. 8 7 13. Thus also he is fallen into the same errour vvhich heretofore † M. Ains Defence of Script pag. 28 32. c he convinced as detestable and blasphemous in M. Smith vvho likevvise perverting some words and phrases of Scripture as namely that of blotting out and taking avvay the hand writing that was against us c. gathered thereupon that the written Lavv of Moses the Prophets was novv blotted out and taken away from the church And thus moreover he maketh his own Annotations vvhich he publisheth on Genesis Exodus the Psalmes c. yea all the arguments and proofs that in his doctrine or other vvritings he bringeth out of the books of the old Testament to be vayn and unsound So as any that read or heare them might turne them away with his owne glose and tell him that the old Testament novv is chaunged Yea thus he annihilateth the proofs and testimonies that in the Nevv Testament are alledged by the Apostles out of the old And taketh avvay the meanes of persvvading the Iewes to the Christian faith with vvhom we must eyther reason from the Scriptures of the old Testament as being ” Psal 19 7 8 9. Prov. 22 21. Mat. 5 18. the Word of God that endureth for ever and that hath the certaintie of the vvords of truths or els vvhat hope can we haue ever to perswade them to the faith of Christ But the Apostles teach us farre otherwise then this Opposite that * 2 Pet. 1 19. the Propheticall vvord is a most sure vvord to which vve shall doe vvel to take heed And that † 2 Tim. 3 16 17. all the Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God and is profitable to teach to improue to correct to instruct in righteousnes that the man of God may be absolute and made perfect to all good works To let this Opposite therefore alone with his shifts and errors I vvill proceed vvith the matter in hand 3. Where obserue next the agreement of Christs speach in Mat. 18 17. with that other speach of Christ in Mat. 5 22. Where Christ in the one place teacheth the offending party how to carry himself Mat. 5.22.23 c. and in the other the party offended Mat. 18 15. c. and in both places shevveth to whom the brother offending may be brought saying in the one place Tell it to the church or Congregation Mat. 18.17 in the other he is in daunger of the councill or Synedrion Mat. 5 22. Besides the agreement that these Scriptures also haue with those other in 1 Sam. 2 25. Deu. 1 16. and 19. 16.17 and 21 19. 2 Chron. 19.6 10. 1 Thes 5 12 13. 1 Tim. 5 17. Hebr. 13 17. and the like And note here how M. Brightman treating of this matter in his exposition of Salomons Song and applying it to the time of the Gospell saith expressely that he thinketh there is one and the same intendement of Christs speach in Mat. 5 22. as is of that in Mat. 18 15. c. Of which judgment are others also vvhom I need not mention in particular 4. Moreover the Syriack translation in Mat. 5 22. hath Kenushta which signifieth a congregation assemblie or synagogue where the Greeke Originall hath Synedrion the Councill or Congregation of the Elders And the like againe in Mat. 26 59. Which plainly sheweth hovv they sometimes use the vvord congregation or assemblie where the Greek hath Synedrion the sitting or assemblie of the Elders And is the more to be marked because the same translation othervvhere useth the same word KENUSHTA so generally as it putteth it for the Greek vvord SYNAGOGE the Synagogue Mat. 4 23. 9 35. 10 17. where also it hath BETH DINE the house of judgment for the Greek SYNEDRION the councill or sitting of the Elders so both using
Israel had not before us M. Ainsw Defence of Scrip. pag. 10. Which being well observed wil giue good light to many matters now in question But I wil proceed to other things 2. Whereas sometimes I alledge many Scriptures together my meaning is not that each of them proue the point in hand but that to this end they are to be compared layd together corfirmation of the truth to be derived frò thence by consequence discourse of reason as in questions of religion is woonted to be done 3. The questions that I set down are divers abort them there is great diversitie of judgment Touching some of thē I set down reasons but one way answer the objections to the contrarie For others of thē sometimes I propound reasons both waies so leaue al to be examined judged of according to the word of God At first I had thought onely to haue insisted upon the points thēselues without mention of any adversaries or confutation of any Opposites by name But afterward upon divers waighty reasons I chaunged my purpose course of manie Opposites haue named a few giuen a litle tast of the manifold Opposition that is made against us noting withall a few instances of the many shifts errors contradictions abuse of Scriptures into which they run are caryed exceedingly ‘ M. Ainsw Animadv c. Where also I could mention if I would sundrie manifest untruths published by some which are so very untrue as I need not produce any other proof or witnes herein but the publike records of Amsterdam stil extant the testimonie of such as were present and heard and saw what was done not excepting M. Ainsw owne followers Whom now moreover by this occasion I doe once againe exhort to consider their waies estate in their heart to cal to mynd both how they haue ben wanting in yeelding bearing witnes to the truth and how long now they haue continued in their schismaticall and scandalous Division frō the Church whereof they were and that both for the matter time and manner thereof besides many other sinnes and transgressions which they run into withall A just recompence of their contumacie frō vvhich they would not be reclaimed by any meanes Neither doth it availe thē that some others joyned hand in hand with thē becoming as Simeon and Levi did brethren in evill In such cases we must still remēber and obserue what Iacob the Patriark said O my soule come not thou into their secret unto their † Or Church as M. Ains doth otherwhere usually translat the word KAHAL which here he doth not so Note it assembly myne honour be not thou united Gen. 49.5.6 4. Now of the Anabaptists Arminians I need not speak particularly Some of their opinions here following I haue noted and refuted Gen. 37.9 Phil. 2.15 Iudg. 5 31. Prov. 4.18 Dan. 8 10.12 11.31.32 Act. 2.20.40 Rev. 6.12 both for the more clearing of the truth the further helping of others against their errors which do now here so much trouble endaunger the estate of church Common wealth The Reformed churches may for the faith of Christ which they professe wel be estemed as Israel was of old in their measure degrees to be as the Sunne and moone the lights of the world Which should therfore stil increase in al shining light of the truth holynes shyning more more unto the perfit day yea til they go forth as the Sunne in his might should be the more carefull hereof seeing the Scrtpture also teacheth how euen ‘ Rev. 16.8 c. Or by the Sunne here understand hotte persecution Sal. Song 1. 6. Mat. 13.6 21. upon the Sunne shal a vial of Gods wrath be powred out before the utter extyrpation destuction of the Beasts throne kingdome that the day is a comming wherein the moone shal be confounded the Sunne ashamed when the Lord of hosts shall reigne in mount Zion in Ierusalem before his auncients gloriously Esa 24.23 Which whether it shal be at the conversion of the Jewes to the Christian faith which now hasteneth on time and the work of God will manifest As also in what manner shal be verified that which the same Prophet hath foretold saying The light of the Moone shal be as the light of the Sunne and the light of the Sunne shal be seuen fold as the light of seuen dayes in the day that the Lord byndeth up the breach of his people and healeth the stroke of their wound 5. In the meane time who doth not obserue and lament that among the Lutherans and Reformed churches every where there should still remain so many great corruptions errors superstitions other transgressions not redressed or amended in the worship of God conversation of men Which threaten some heavy judgment of God not to be far off if we meete not the Lord with true and unfeyned repentance in time In which regard al are to be exhorted carefully without delay to think on their wayes to turne their feet into the Testimonies of the Lord. Buy the truth sayth ‘ Pro. 23.23 Salomon but sell it not Part with any thing for it but part not with it for any thing Enter in at the strait gate sayth ” Matt. 7.13.24 Christ for wide is the gate broad is the way that leadeth to destruction many there be which goe in thereat but strait is the gate narrow is the way which leadeth to life few there be that find it Finally let us all labour what in us is to grow in grace in the knowledge and obedience of the truth in all things not regarding the applause or displeasure of men but endevouring to please God more and more not onely to know profeesse in word but to obserue and practise in deed whatsoever the Lord hath commanded us knowing that ” Deu. 4 1 2. Matt. 28.20 Ioh. 7.17 13 17. 1 Tim 6 13.14 this hath the promise of blessing acceptance with the Lord. Wherein if these my poore labours shal any waie help and further thee giue praise unto God and remember me in thy prayers to the Lord In whom I rest and still shall remaine thyne FRANCIS IOHNSON Pastour of the English exiled church sojourning for the present at Amsterdam It was not an enemy that reproved me then I could haue borne it neyther was it he that hated me that did magnifie himself against me then I would haue hid my self from him But it was thou O man myne equall my guide and myne acquaintance who tooke sweete councell together and walked into the house of God in company Psal 55.12.13.14 Blessed are ye when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evill against you falsely for my sake Rejoyce be glad for great is your reward in heauen For so persecuted they the Prophets
32 33. and Act. 2 30. vvith Psal 89 3 4 29 36. and 132 11. Esa 16 5. and 32 1. Jer. 33 15 26. Dan. 7 14 27. Mic. 4 7. Which being rightly understood and spiritually applyed will not onely minister unto us much instruction and comfort but vvill also plainly manifest hovv vve should novv stil haue reference hereunto in the churches estate and in the many questions and controversies arising thereabout Briefly these things and an hundred the like in the Scriptures sufficiently teach us that although vve be freed from Moses ceremonies yet vve may not be aliens from Israels policie As the Apostles also taught and shewed the churches continually Ephes 2 11 12. vvith Gal. 5 1 13. Phil. 3 2 3. and Col. 2 8 17. and the vvhole Epistle to the Hebrevves 1 Pet. 2 5 10. 2 Pet. 1 19 20 21. Rev. 19 10. and 21 2. c. 4. So then stil remembring as I noted erevvhile that the ceremonies of Moses are in such sort abrogated vve freed from the outvvard observation thereof according to the letter of the Lavv as yet still the spirit equitie thereof abideth vve stand bound to the observation thereof accordingly notvvithstanding the many differences of estate and administration betvveen them and us I come now to the Apostles vvritings to giue some instances also out of them To name some particulars therefore to vvhich there is reference in the nevv Testament as the Tabernacle and Temple the Arke and Mercy seat the pillars the candlestick the Altar of burnt offering and incense the Passeover and continuall sacrifices and offrings the Priests and their ministration and service the feasts leven leprosie uncleannes by touching the dead c. Who knovveth not that these novv are ceased and that many great differences may be observed hereabout betvveen them and us betvveen their infancie and our riper age betvveene their administration and ours c. Yet notvvithstanding there is also the spirituall intendement use of these besides the letter and a perpetuall equity of them vvhich remayneth novv still for ever And accordingly doe the Apostles and all vvriters both old and nevv from hence dravv reasons informations applications of them unto us and our estate novv under the Gospell As ●●r example may be seen touching the tabernacle and temple hovv it is ●●plyed to Christ Ioh. 1 14. in the Originall and 2 19 21. Hebr. 8.1 2. and 9 ●● 12 23 24. Revel 21 22. And to the church in the time of the Gospell ●oth the universall and particular churches Act. 15 16 17. Ephes 2 21. ● Cor. 3 16 17. 2 Cor. 6 16. 2 Thes 2 4. 1 Pet. 2 5. Revel 3 12. and 11 1 2 19. and 13 6. and 14 15 17. and 15 5 6 8. and 21 3. and to particular persons ● Cor. 6 19. 2 Cor. 5 1 4.2 Pet. 1 13 14. with Ioh. 2 19 22. The like may be observed about the other particulars vvith the severall uses and applica●ions made thereof in sundry places as of the Arke Mercie-seat Rev. ●1 19. and Rom. 3 25. with Exod 25 17 21. in the Septuagint The pillars Rev. ● 12. Gal. 2 9. 1 Tim. 3 15. The Golden candlesticks Rev. 1 12 13 20. and 2 ● 5. and 11 4. The Altar of burnt offring Mat. 5 23 24 25. 1 Cor. 9 13 14. ●0 16 17 18. Hebr. 13 10. Rev. 6,9 and 11 1. and 14 18. and the Altar of inc●nse Rev. 8 3 4 5. and 9 13. and 14 18. The Passeover 1 Cor. 5 7. with Joh. ● 29. 1 Pet. 1 19. Revel 13 8. and other sacrifices and offrings Mark 9 49. Ioh. 1 29 36. Rom. 12 1. and 15 16. Phil. 2 17. and 4 18. Hebr. 9 23 26. and 10 ●2 26. and 13 15 16. 1 Pet. 2 5. The Priests and their ministration and seruice Rom. 15 16. 1 Cor. 9 13 14. Hebr. 5 1 5. 8 1 5. and 10 12 21. 1 Pet. ● 5 9. Rev. 1 6. and 5 10. and 20 6. The feasts 1 Cor. 5 8. Iude ver 12. Leven Matth. 16 11 12. Mar. 8 15. Luke 12 1. and 13 21. 1 Cor. 5 6 7 8. Gal. 5 9. Leprosie and other uncleannes 1 Cor. 7 14. 2 Cor. 6 17. Ephes 5 5. Jude ver 23. Revel 3 4. and 16 13. and 18 2. Now if from these vve may derive reasons and applications to our selues vvhy not also from circumcision notvvithstanding the differences betvveen them and us as vve see the Apostle also doeth in this particular likevvise Col. 2 11 12. And in deed vvhat is there at all in Moses or the Prophets from vvhich vve may not novv deduce reasons and receiue information to our selues for the Churches use and benefit continually seeing all the Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine for reproof for correction for instruction in righteousnes that the Man of God may be perfect and throughly furnished unto all good vvorks 2 Tim. 3 16 17. with Rom. 15 4. ● Cor. 10 1 11. 2 Pet. 1 19 20.21 and Luke 16 29 30 31. 5. Now to come more particularly to the objections here made concerning circumcision vve are to obserue that vvhen the Lord appointed ●he males onely to be circumcised then vvas the man-child to come of the seed of Abraham in vvhom all the nations should be blessed Gen. 17 10. vvith ●2 3. and 18 18. and 22 18. Act. 3 25. So as this ordinance of circumcising ●he males onely vvas then of exceeding good and great use for the bet●er direction and more confirmation of their faith in Christ Like as also vvas the appoynting of a male Lambe for the Passeover Exod. 12 5. and ●he consecration of the first borne of the males to the Lord Exod. 13 12. and Luke 2.23 both vvhich vvere types leading unto Christ Joh. 1 29 36. ● Cor. 5 7. 1 Pet. 1 19. and Rom. 8 29. But novv that Christ is come of the ●eed of Abraham according to the flesh and hath vvrought for us eter●al redemption through the blood of his crosse accomplishing the truth of those things which were shadowed by the ceremonies of the law this difference of sex estate is taken avvay so as now there is neyther male nor female Iewe nor Gentile bond nor free but we are al one in Christ Iesus Gal 3 28. And so now the female is baptized as well as the male and included though not particularly by name expressed in the commission of Christ Matth. 28 18 19 20. with Act. 16 14 15 33. Which is also against the Anabaptists inasmuch as the ministration of the outward signe of Gods covenant is now since Christs comming inlarged women being made partakers thereof which before were not And so the Anabaptists error sinne is the greater that would now straiten the extent of Gods grace in Christ denying the signe of Gods covenant to children whom the Lord appoynted before to be partakers thereof Gen. 17 7 13. Yea and
their assertions into the same transgression and impietie Other things more might be observed and answered about the particulars aforesaid but these are ynough more then here I would haue noted but that their owne dealing and the regard of others and of the truth it self did urge me thereunto And hitherto of the Shifts errors contradictions abuse of Scriptures vaine distinctions and Anabaptisticall assertions found in these fewe lynes What abundant store of such stuffe he hath about his and other matters besides in this treatise of his vvhich vvere endles ●o insist upon in particular may euen by this litle sufficiently appeare to such as are judicious unpartiall Now here I wil onely proceed to one or two moe objections that are much urged about the matter in hand OBJECTION IIII. But Israell in their defection from whom divers of the former reasons answers are taken becomming Apostate M.A. c when Ieroboam set up the golden Calues Animad v. p. 68 70. 81 82 88 89 90 91 92 c. and Israel committed Idolatrie with them were not in their apostaste the people of God or his church but were cast off by the Lord and divorced from him the covenant was broken not onely on their part but also on his so as now he gaue them a bill of divorce and ceased to be their God and they to be his people And as touching circumcision or any such ordinances reteyned among them * Animad pag. 70. seeing they then were fallen † 2 Chr. 15 3. frō God and from his church and so were ‡ Ier. 3 8. divorced from the Lord and were ‘ Hos 2 2. not his wife but * Hos 13 1 dead in their sinnes the ordinances of God which they in shew reteyned could not be unto them the signes and seales of forgiuenes of sinnes of life eternall and therefore were in their use of them false and deceitfull as were also the ordinances of God reteyned in other nations as “ Numb 23.1 Pompon Laetus de sacerdo c. Altars Sacrifices Priests tithes first fruits incense meat offrings drink offrings feasts baptismes or washings anoyntings excōmunications prayers vowes many the like wherof al histories do beare record that the Gentiles did reteyn thē ANSWER Very erroneous and ungodly assertions are here againe such as are directly contrary to the Scriptures in the true meaning intendement thereof For the Lord was yet stil their God they his people church both in the account of the Lord himself and of his holy Prophets as † Advert p. 59 63. in another treatise I haue shewed heretofore Which being still so erroneously denyed and colourably oppugned by them I will therefore novv againe insist hereupon And that also the more largely considering the waight of the matter and their abuse of the Scriptures about it Yet will I but treat of some speciall particulars of the exceeding many testimonies of Scripture and reasons that might from thence be deduced about this matter 1. The Prophet that annoynted Iehu King over Israell spake thus unto him in the Name of the Lord ‡ 2 Kin. 9 6. c. Thus saith the Lord God of Israell I haue annoynted thee King over the people of the Lord euen over Israell c. 2 King 9 6. Where first obserue that there vvas almost an hundred yeeres in that time “ Ieroboam Nadab Baasha Elah Zimri Tibn● Omri Ahab Abaziah Iehoram Iehu tenne kings from the defection of Ieroboam the sonne of Nebat who set up the calues unto Iehu now anointed to reigne over Israel Al which time the Lord was yet still their God and they his people as the Prophet here affirmeth in the Name of the Lord. Which that it may the better appeare I vvould aske of these Opposites first whether this Prophet spake trueth or falsehood vvhen now he said Thus saith the Lord God of Israell Secondly whether the Lord himself spake trueth or falsehood when he said to Iehu by the Prophet I haue anoynted thee King over the people of the Lord over Israell And thirdly vvhether Iehu was anoynted a true King in deed and not supposedly onely over Israel the people of the Lord Fourthly let us cōpare herewith the like speach of the Lords concerning David vvhen he said * Chro. 6 5 6. with 2 Sam. 5 2. 2 Kin. 20 5. I haue chosen David to be a ruler over my people Israell 2 Chron. 6 5 6. And vvas not this so in trueth and in deed Finally marke that in this speach † Gen. 17 7 Esa 63 19 the vvords of the covenant are still reteyned and expressely used vvhen the Prophet saith not onely The Lord but The Lord God of Israell and againe the people of the Lord euen Israell Now if the Lord and his Prophet spake the trueth as the thing was in deed then these Opposites teach falsehood and so if the Scripture be true their vvritings and assertions are false Yea they deale farre worse then the Captaynes that vvere then vvith Iehu who how ever in a svvaggering veyne they called the Prophet ‡ 2 King 9 11. a mad fellowe afore they knevv vvhy he came to Iehu yet vvhen they knevv the man the matter they presently shevved by their deeds and words that they esteemed his message as the vvord and work of the Lord and himself as the Lords Prophet and not as a mad fellow much lesse as a false fellow that spake leasing of the Lord and of Israell or any othervvise then as the case then stood in deede and in truth 2 Kin. 9 1 13. with 1 King 19 15 16. This dealing of those Captaines vvill rise up in judgment against these men if still they goe on in despising the word of God and reviling his servants will not upon knowledge of the will of God shewed unto them yeild thereunto as these Israelites now in apostasie did in the matter aforesaid Which I note the rather because ‘ 2 Kin. 9 6. this Scripture with some other hath ben “ Adver pag. 59. shewed them heretofore and yet they cease not but set thēselues purposely to oppugne us herein Now to proceed after Iehues time also the Scripture sheweth that when Hazael king of Syria had oppressed Israel al the daies of Jehoahaz the sonne of Iehu * 2 Kin. 13 22 23. the Lord was gracious unto them and had compassion on them and had respect unto them because of his covenant with Abraham Isaac and Jacob and would not destroy them neyther cast he thē frō his presence as yet where marke these things first how the Lord of his free grace holp and preserved Israel in their misery because of his covenant with Abraham and the Fathers vvherein he had promised to be not onely their God but the God also of their seed after thē Gen. 17 7. Secondly that God had not cast them from his presence as
apostasie and so to be a notorious harlot and idolatresse vvhich all the people of God ought to forsake and to vvitnesse the trueth thereagainst euen unto death Yet being also desirous as I signified erewhile about an other matter that in al these things the truth may be found out what vve can and fynding that the Prophets vvhich accounted * Esa 1 21 Ier. 3 3 20 Eze. 16 35 Hos 2 2 5 Ierusalem Israell to be harlots and pronounced ” Esa 57.3 4 5. Ier. 2 and 7 and 44 ch Hos 2 4. and 4 12. the children of Iudah and Israel to be the sonnes of the sorceresse the seed of the adulterer vvhore the children of transgression a seed of falsehood inflaming themselves vvith idols under every green tree slaying the children in the valleyes going a vvhoring from under their God Yea “ Ezec. 23 2 43. c with 16 2 3 44. c both of them Aholah and Aholibah Israell and Iudah to be the daughters of one mother who committed whoredomes in Egypt in their youth and afterward in the land of Canaan grew old in adulteries euen such as should be judged by * Ezec. 16 38. the Lord ‡ and 23 4● by righteous men after the manner of adulteresses after the manner of womē that shed blood because they were adulteresses and blood was in their hands c. did yet notwithstanding in other respects acknowledge them also to be the people of God the house of Jacob the Lords vineyard and heritage the dearly beloved of his soule the virgin daughter of Zion the children of Israell beloved of the Lord as a vvoman that is beloved of her husband though an adulteresse the congregation of the Lord the house of Israell c. Esa 1 3. and 2 6. and 3 12. and 5 1. and 48 1. Jer. 2 4 11 13. and 12 7 10 Lam. 1 15. and 2 13. Ezech. 4 5 6. Hos 3 1. and 4 1. and 5 1. Amos 5 1. and 7 2 8 15. Mic. 2 5. and 3 1 3 5. and 6 2 3. These things I say considered I haue thought it not amisse here also to obserue somevvhat touching the Apostate churches of Christians and now more particularly touching the church of Rome by this occasion And this the rather that I may stirre up others more able seriously to consider of this matter for the further searching out and clearing of the truth therein and because my self haue heretofore ben drawen to write somewhat of these things already Which together vvith that I shall here annex I doe still leaue to be examined by the word of God Neyther wil the searching of this matter proue unprofitable if it be done religiously but will be of good and necessarie use both for the more sound convincing of the Papists and for preventing manifold errors and evils whereunto the Anabaptists and others are subject in this behalf Now therefore to proceed and come to the Objection aforesaid 1. First I take an argument from the Baptisme had in the churches aforesaid thus The Baptisme had in the church of Rome * I speake of the outward baptisme it self not of the additions corruptions thereabout is the Lords baptisme the signe seale of his covenant the ordinance of God had in that Church from the Apostles times before Antichrist there arose Rom. 6 2 3. and so is true baptisme vvhich is from heauen and not of men that one Baptisme which perteyneth to the body of Christ Eph. 4 4 5. which the Lord hath giuen to his church and not man whereof a number of Martyrs and other Christians haue ben and yet are partakers which such as leaue Antichrists corruptions ought not to leaue and renounce but still to reteyne it as being the Lords and such as wherevvith they may lavvfully come to the Lords supper vvhereas no unbaptized person may eat thereof As I haue shevved † Pap. 27 34. c here before touching these particulars at large Therefore the Church of Rome is the Church of God and under his covenant and hath some of the Lords postes ordinances yet remaining in it though mixed with their own inventions c. And if the church of Rome be thus then the church of England much more which is already much purged by the mercy of God frō the apostasie iniquitie abominations of the church of Rome Otherwise also what vvill become of these men themselues who eyther haue no other Baptisme but that vvhich they had in the churches aforesaid or if they take another unto themselues run a vvhoring after their owne inventions vvithout any vvarrant of the word of God as I haue shewed here before pag. 27 c. 2. If the churches of Rome and England be not under the covenant of God but divorced from the Lord c. then is there no salvation for any in those churches For out of the covenant of God there is no salvation They vvhich haue not God to be their God in Iesus Christ cannot be saved And they vvhich are not under the covenant of God haue not God to be their God in Iesus Christ Esa 43 11. with Act. 4 12. and Gen. 12 3. and 17 7. Act. 2 38 39. and 3 25 26. and 15 11. and 16 31. Joh. 14 6. 2 Cor. 6 14 18. Rom. 9 24 25 26. and 11 25 26 27. Gal. 3 8 15 18 26 29. 1 Tim 2 5. Now touching these churches themselues great difference is to be observed For the church of England the case is far more evident and vvithout al colour of question seeing they doe freely and fully acknowledge justification by faith onely in Iesus Christ without any opinion of the merit of works or intercession of Saints departed c. For the church of Rome there is farre more difficultie where both the merit of works intercession of Saints and the Popes pardons purgatorie with many other notable errors are taught and defended Yet considering that they professe and hold * Rhemes Annotat. upō 1 Tim. 2 5. Christ by nature to be truely both God and man to be that one eternall Priest and redeemer which by his sacrifice and death upon the crosse hath reconciled us to God and payed his blood as a full and sufficient raunsome for all our sinnes himself without need of any redemption never subject to possibility of sinning againe to be the singular advocate and Patrone of mankind that by himself alone and by his owne merites procureth all grace and mercy to mankind in the fight of his Father none making any intercession for him nor giueing any grace or force to his prayers but he to al none asking or obteyning eyther grace in this life or glory in the next but by him Considering I say that thus they professe although herevvith they haue many great errors and corruptions as I noted before by which they are generally seduced and perverted yet vvho dare say but that God
by this faith in Christ saveth some of them who doe thus beleeue in simplicity and heare not of their other opinions and courses to be errors and corruptions nor resist the trueth vvhich God vouchsafeth to shew unto them And of this mynd concerning them I haue ben a long time haue by other occasion † In the Answer to M. Jacob p. 13 and 47. c. published it almost tvventie yeeres since And am the more confirmed in it inasmuch as some of them lay downe their liues and dye Martyrs in defence of the Christian faith acknovvledging Iesus to be the Christ the sonne of God against the Turks and Moores and such like enemies of Christian religion besides that many of the Indians and other Pagans with some Ievves are by them converted brought to the profession of Christian religion among whom I doubt not but the Lord hath and saveth his euen by that knovvledge faith of Iesus Christ which by their doctrine preaching among them they are through the mercy of God brought unto Yea and who can say but that wheresoever the name of Christ is preached and called upon the Lord saveth some according to his owne gracious purpose and mercy in Christ Iesus seeing that Iesus Christ is the vvay the truth and the life and whosoever beleeveth in him shal not perish but haue everlasting life Joh. 3 16 17. and 6 35. and 14 6. Act. 8 37. and 16 30 31. and 17 2 3 4. and 18 25 28. and 28 14 23 24. Rom. 10 9 13. Here also to the same purpose might be observed that out of the Church there is no salvation vvhich I suppuse themselues will not deny And that which is more that the Lords constitutions cease not to be his holy ordinances though the people that enjoy them should haue no benefit thereof to salvation but use or abuse them rather to their owne greater condemnation But omitting this I proceed to other reasons as follovveth 3 It hath ben the great question between the Ievves and us ever since the Apostles times and still is whether Iesus be the Christ that was promised and vvhether the Iewes or Christians novv be the church of God Now also there are in the vvorld the Christians the Ievves the Turks Pagans If then the question be asked vvhich of these is the church of God at this day should we not ansvver The Christians and among the Christians also comprise the churches aforesaid for the reasons before specified 4. Seeing baptisme is among Christians a visible signe of the visible Church of God as circumcision vvas of old among the Ievves hovv can vve soundly defend reteyn the visible baptisme received in the church of Rome and that also vvith reference to the circumcision received in the apostasies of Iudah and Israell if vve doe not accordingly acknovvledge the Church of Rome to be a visible church and the people of God as Iudah and Israell vvas in their defection of which more in the next reason follovving A visible church I say though miserably corrupted adulterate and apostate having Antichrist set therein c. Mat. 28 18 19. and Act. 2 41 47. with Gen. 17 7 12. 1 Cor. 1 13 16. and 10 1 2. Col. 2 11 12. and 2 Thes 2 3 4. with Dan. 11 31 36. c. 5. When Ierusalem the faithfull city became an harlot yet vvas it stil the citie of God Esa 1 21. Jer. 2 3 13 20 21 27. Ezec. 16 2 35. c. with Jer. 25 18 29. Dan. 9 18 19. and with Deut. 28.10 When Iudah fell into idolatrie apostasie and other notorious iniquity yet was it * Note the times and read the histories of the judges and Kings of Rehoboam Ahaz Manasseh Iehojakim Zedekiah c. still the church and people of God euen vvhen it had the transgressions and idolatries of Israell the abominations of the heathen as many Gods as she had cities the worship of Baal and of all the host of heauen building them high places images and groues in every high hill and under every green tree forsaking the Lord and setting an image of jelousy an idoll of abomination in the house of God vvhere the Lord put his name her children becomming the sonnes of the sorceresse the seed of the adulterer and the vvhore the children of defection a seed of falsehood and she her self so abominable as she justified Samaria and Sodom through her impieties c. Iud. 2 11 12 13 19 20. c. 1 King 14 21 24. 2 King 16 10 16. and 21 2 9. and 23 31 37. and 24 ch 2 Chron. 12 1 5. and 28 ch and 33 1 10. and 36 11 16. with Esa 1 3 4. and 57 3 4 5. Ier. 2 11 13 27 28. and 7 2 9 17 18. 12 7 10. and 24 ch and 31 21 22. Ezec. 16. and 23 ch Dan. 8 10 11 12. Mic. 1 1 5 9 13. and 2 5. and 2 1 3 5. and 6 2 3. The like may be observed touching Israell in her apostasie and defection as I haue shevved here † p. 58 c. before at large Therefore also the church of Rome that was a faithfull church is become an harlot being fallen into idolatrie apostasie and other notorious iniquitie as Ierusalem Iudah and Israell heretofore is in like sort to be estemed the church people of God that hath thus offended doth thus transgresse as is aforesaid The Proposition touching Iudah and Ierusalem I suppose these men vvill graunt themselues Yet for confirmation of it both touching Iudah Israell see the Scriptures alledged here and before besides many moe throughout the historie and Prophets that might be produced in this behalf The consequence is proved because these were figures and types of the like cases and estate of the Christian churches recorded for our instruction and learning 1 Cor. 10 6 11. with Rom. 15 4. and 2 Tim. 3 16 17. 2 Pet. 2 1. Iude v. 5 11. Rev. 2 14 20. and 11 2. c. And that so as the Scripture it self maketh these to be the very patternes of the Christians apostasie and more particularly of the estate of the church of Rome in this behalf For vvhich see moreover 2 Thes 2 3 4. compared with 2 King 21 7. Esa 14 12 13 14. Ezec. 8 3 5. c. Dan. 8 10 11 12. and 11 31 36 38. Also Rev. 11 2 5 6 compared vvith the Scriptures aforesaid and with Esa 1 10 11 11 21. Psal 59 5. 1 King 17 1. and 2 King 1 10 c. Of which more hereafter 6. And this is the more confirmed inasmuch as it should be sinne in the church of Rome for the Papists and apostate Christians to joyne in mariage with the Pagans to neglect Baptisme not to sanctifie the Lords day c. as it was in Iudah and Israell being in apostasie to joyne in mariage with the heathen to neglect circumcision to profane the Lords Sabbaths c. Dan. 11
vvill haue the Temple of God spoken off 2 Thes 2 4. not onely to signifie the church of Antichrist the Synagogue of Antichrist the Temple Church and body of Antichrist c. but cannot endure that others should otherwise understand it of the church of God as by his writing reviling assertions may appeare Here therefore for the better clearing understanding of the matter let me aske moreover whether these two propositiōs come to a like end agree the one vvith the other to note out the same thing or not viz. The man of sinne sitteth in the Temple of God And Antichrist sitteth † or in the Church of Rome and other like churches of Christians in the church of Rome If they be alike and accord together in one the cause will be plaine If not let them shevv the difference between these propositions that so the meaning of this Scripture may the better be found out And vvhereas also the terme sitting noteth authority and continuance as ‘ M. Ains Annot on Psal 1 1. and 61 8. 102 13. c. himself othervvhere vvell observeth let him tell us vvithal whether Antichrists authoritie and continuance be in the church of Rome or not according as the Apostle speaketh here of the Man of sin sitting in the Temple of God If he say the authoritie and continuance of Antichrist is in the church of Rome the case againe will thus also be evident If he say it is not there let him then shevv us the Temple of God spoken off by the Apostle vvhere it is Thus tvvo lines keeping directly to the point in question will more clear the matter and better convince both Papist and Anabaptist then tvvo thousand full of shifts errors vvhich doe but the more harden both of them against the trueth though severall wayes But I wil proceed Animad p. 78. The second thing that here he insisteth upon is the word Temple But the Apostles words are the Temple of God unto which he should haue kept as vvill more appeare afterward In the meane time obserue hovv he which euen novv said our reason was unperfitly alledged because of the omission of these vvords as God vvhich perteyning to another point then the question in hand might here therefore so be omitted yet doth now presently himself leaue out such words vvhich as touching the point in question may not be left out at all The particulars follovving vvil shew it more plainly He saith we take it for granted that by the Temple is meant the church so goe on in obscuritie Advert p. 58 59. My vvords were these speaking of the Apostles speach vvhere he saith Antichrist should sit in the Temple of God 2 Thes 2 4. that here by the Temple of God understanding the church of God it will follovv that Antichrist should sit in the church of God and is there to be sought and found not among the Jewes Turks Pagans c. Where first mark that I spake not of the Temple onely but of the Temple of God as the Apostle also doeth Secondly I doe in deed here deriue the reason from this exposition thereof that by the Temple of God is understood the church of God Which if it could be shevved not to be agreeable to the Scriptures otherwhere or that this place would not bear it I haue done But it is so evident that ‘ 1 Cor. 3 16 17. 2 Cor. 6 16. the Scripture thus useth it as euen here in the very next passage this man himself graunteth it Neyther doeth he shew any one place of the Scripture where this phrase of the Temple of God used figuratiuely as it is here doth signify any other thing then the church and people of God And what should I look for of an Opponent that vvould deal soundly and syncerely but that now he should proue that it is not here meant of the Church of God and should also shevv vvhereof it is to be understood and that by the word of God Which till he doe let the Reader obserue his exceptions here how idle they are and to no purpose for the matter in hand As first of all vvhen he saith that the Temple did primarily figure out Christ Joh. 2 19 21. and the Lord God almighty the Lamb is the Temple in the heauenly Ierusalem Rev. 21 22. To vvhat purpose is this will it hereupon follow that therefore by the Temple of God 2 Thes 2 4. vve may not understant the Church of God Or that they vvhich doe so goe on in obscuritie But if in this sense saith he we understand that speach of Paul touching Antichrist then must vve translate the vvords as * August de civ Dei l. 20 c. 19. some auncient Doctors haue done eis ton Naon for the Temple or as if himself vvere the Temple c. Where note first how he speaketh this with an If secondly that he telleth not vvhether himself doe think that it is thus to be understood or thus to be translated or not Which when he resolveth upon for himself and so sheweth it then may it more be considered of In the mean time let the Reader obserue how himself goeth on in obscuritie vvhat he can And for the phrase it self this onely for the present I will here note and leaue it to be observed and considered by the Reader that where Matthevv hath eis to onoma tou patros c. into the name of the Father c. Mat. 28 19. Luke hath for it epi to onomati Jesou Christou ‘ or upon in the name of Iesus Christ Act. 2 37. M. Brigh● on Rev. 1● 2. en to onomati tou Koriou in the name of the Lord Act. 10 48. And a good writer treating on Rev. 16 2. on those words eis tous anthropous saith They upon vvhō this ulcer there spoken off seizeth are men there fell an ulcer against men as Beza turnes it or into men as the vulgar reads that is on men as Antichrist is said to sit into the Temple for in the Temple 2 Thes 2 4. But the praeposition with an accusatiue case soundeth as if the sores did vex not so much by † sticking in the body as by afflicting it from without which doth more agree to these figuratiue sores c. And whether some such thing likewise may not here be observed about this phrase eis ton naon tou Theou os Theon cathisai to sit as God ‘ or upon See Esa 1● 13. into the Temple of God where the same praeposition case is used or els moreover to note out some very near deep close or inward sitting of Antichrist into or in the Temple of God I leaue to be further considered desiring that the true meaning hereof vvhat can be may be searched and found out for the better ending of these and sundry other questions vvhereunto this vvould giue great light and help As for the * Augustine auncient
of Rome and other churches be Christian churches or not and then let all consider thereof indifferently that so the trueth may be found out according to the vvord of God whatsoever other opinions or prejudice vve haue had to the cōtrarie heretofore And hitherto of these expositions of this Scripture Next whereas upon the understanding of this Scripture aforesaid I brought in tvvo consequences shevving hovv it would meet vvith and convince the errors both of the Papists and Anabaptists c. this Opposite setteth himself to withstand in both what he can The first was this that by the Temple of God 2 Thes 2 4. understanding the church of God it vvil follovv that Antichrist should sit in the church of God and is there to be sought found and not among the Ievves Turks Pagans and the like as the Papists and others vvould perswade us To this he opposeth saying it is a fallacie from an insufficient division because all out of the true church are not Ievves or Turks or Pagans but there is a fourth to make up the mease euen popish Antichristians among whom the man of sinne is to be found c. Where omitting that he setteth not down all my vvords first I obserue that now he maketh the Popish Antichristians to be the Temple of God vvhere Antichrist is to be found and but erewhile he told us that by the Temple of God vvhere Antichrist sitteth as God is to be understood Gods church and people invaded and destroyed by Antichrist So as eyther he thinketh the popish Antichristians to be Gods church and people or els he forgetteth and contradicteth himself extreemely Secondly let him tell us vvhether the popish Antichristians of whom he speaketh be Christians in the church of God or not If he say they are Christians and in the church of God he giveth us the cause and doth but use fallacie to deceiue the simple by the terme of popish Antichristians our question now being of the Temple of God vvhere Antichrist sitteth and so of fynding him there among † How in other respects they are or may be termed popish Antichristians or otherwise I doe not here stand upon Christians and not among the Ievves Turks Pagans and the like If he say they are not Christians nor in the church of God hovv then will he shevv that Antichrist is to be sought found among them seing he is to be sought and found in the Temple of God Thirdly I aske vvhen and vvhere those popish Antichristians begun yet are of vvhom he speaketh Also whether they vvere popish Antichristians and not the churches of God before Antichrist invaded and sate among them or became to be such aftervvard If he say they were so before let him tell us vvho they vvere and shevv that such then was their estate If he say they became so aftervvard let him then tel us what they vvere before whether Christians and the church of God or not how long it vvas aftervvard ere they ceased so to be and vvho they are of whom thus he speaketh remembring still to distinguish betvveen Antichrist and the Temple of God vvhere he sitteth Fourthly let him remember how yll he took it when M. Sm. speaking of Rev. 11 2. applied the Court of the Temple to the assemblies of Antichrist Which interpretation then he called ‘ Def. of Scrip. p. 12 13 14 15. impietie dotage his fancie blyndnes of heart abuse of the ●ord of God c. If he could not endure that he should so interpret the court of the Temple spoken of by Iohn how is it that now himself thus expounds the Temple of God spoken of by Paul to be popish Antichristians If it were then impietie dotage a fancie blyndnes and abuse of Gods word so to expound apply it what thinks he it is novv Fiftly where he saith further that in the true church Antichrist the man of sin hath sometimes ben found raunging as a wolf but not reigning as a God which in his own Temple he doeth First I aske what true church it is whereof thus he speaketh that the man of sinne Antichrist hath ben found raunging therein as a wolf Secondly note how now he understands sitting as God to be reigning as a God vvhich here before he understood to be invading and destroying Thirdly how that vvhich the Apostle calleth the Temple of God he stil calleth the Temple of the man of sinne Antichrists ovvn Temple c. Where in vvhether he doe not use fallacie let himself consider others judge Finally touching this Scripture this clause thereof how ever he oppugne what we propound let him yet obserue how others doe understand and apply it Whereof I will here giue but one instance More may be produced hereafter M. Calvin vvriting upon these vvords in the Temple of God noteth this ‘ Calv. in 2 Thes 2 4. By this one vvord is their errour yea their sluggishnes sufficiently refuted who doe therefore account the Pope to be the Vicar of Christ because he hath his fear in the church howsoever he cary himself For Paul placeth Antichrist no other vvhere then in the very Sanctuarie of God For he is no outward enemie but an home-bred or household enemy which under the very name of Christ oppugneth Christ But it is demaunded how a denne of so many superstitions may be called the church which ought to be the pillar of trueth I answer that so it is called not because it reteyneth all the qualities of the church but because it hath somewhat remayning Therefore I acknowledge it to be the Temple of God wherein the Pope ruleth but profaned with innumerable sacriledges Calv. in 2 Thes 2.4 And thus doe other the best vvriters both old and new understand this Scripture of the Church of God So as his opposition is not onely against us but in deed against the best vvriters in all ages And hitherto of the first consequence which I inferred upon the understanding of this Scripture aforesaid vvhich more specially concerneth the Papists and others likewise mynded thereabout Another consequence also I inferred upon the same ground against the Anabaptists and such as incline unto them herein Namely that by the Temple of God spoken off 2 Thes 2 4. understanding the church of God it wil follovv that Antichrist should sit in the church of God and that therefore he is there to be found and doth not wholly take avvay the church of God every truth ordinance of the Lord as Anabaptists and such as are herein Anabaptistically inclined would bear us in hand To this he answereth Neyther did the Divel take away vvholly every trueth and ordinance of God from among the heathens but they reteyned many rites of Gods worship received from their Fathers as ‘ Animad p. 70. before is noted But vvhy now saith he not that the Divell took not away vvholly the church of God from among the heathens Why leaveth he out this
much strengthning of the Anabaptists in their erroneous opinions and courses but he blameth and oppugneth the comparing of the church of Rome vvith Israel saying They doe but roll the first stone saying the same things comparing Antichrists church vvith Israell vvhereas the holy Ghost compareth it vvith * Rev. 11 2 8. 17 5. the Gentiles euen the most vile the Sodomites Egyptians Babylonians and heathen Romanes Pag. 84. The like he hath againe in pag. 85 and often in his treatise Where marke not onely hovv he strengthneth the Anabaptists hands but useth also the Anabaptists language and ansvver When M. Clyfton to approue the reteyning of baptisme received in the apostasie of our forefathers alledged the example of circumcision received in the apostasie of Israell M. Smith then opposing returned this ansvver ” M. Sm. charact of the Beast p. 48. that the apostasie of Antichrist is deeper then the apostasie of Israell for first saith he Antichristians are not called Israelites but Babylonians Egyptians Sodomites Gentiles in the Revelatiō whereby the holy spirit of vvisedome giveth us to conceiue that he doeth account the apostasie of Antichrist equall to Paganisme it self yea to the very vvorst kind of Paganisme c. Novv let the Reader compare these together and then let him consider vvhether M. Ainsvvorth doe not in deed plead the Anabaptists cause and that also after their manner and almost vvith their very vvords As touching the point it self I haue ‘ Pag. 129 135. c. already out of the Scriptures shewed how the word Gentiles may here be understood vvhich I need not repeat Yea M. Ainsw himself shevveth * Anno● on Psa 59.6 54 5 othervvhere though now he forget it that by this terme of the Heathens David understandeth the Ievves that were wicked and persecuters c. Psal 59 5. And the Prophets often compare ‘ Esa 1 10 Jer. 23 14. Ezech. 16 3 45 46. c. Hos 12 7. Amos 9 7 the Jevves to them of Sodome and Gomorrah to the Canaanites Ethiopians Philistines Syrians c. Wil he therefore conclude hereupon that they were not the Church and people of God Not to speak how the Scripture also describing the iniquitie of Antichrist the estate of the Church of Rome and other Christian churches in apostasie hath reference often to the estate of Iudah and Israell as I haue shewed more largely ” Pag. 127. c. here before Which alone is sufficient to convince both M. Ainsw and M. Sm. answers and the Anabaptists errors hereabout 4. He grants that in Pauls time the church of Rome was set in the way of God and soone after fell into apostasie Pag. 84. Pag. 84. 85. And yet in the next page he saith the ordinances of God vvhich are still reteyned in that church are stollen as vvhen a thief steales a true mans money Pag. 85. Wherein he contradicteth himself hardeneth the Anabaptists And is in some respect as if he should say whē an honest man having money in his purse that is truely gotten becommeth afterward a thief and stealeth some goods of other mens the money which he had before and still hath is stollen money because the other goods are yll come by which he getteth afterward by unlavvful meanes Or rather thus as if he should say that vvhen an honest woman becommeth an harlot now all the goods vvhich lavvfully she had before still reteyneth are stollen goods Thus if he vvere the judge she should be condemned not onely of adulterie but of theft And note moreover that when a thief repenteth he may not keep but must restore againe all the goods he hath stollen Accordingly then by his doctrine if the church of Rome should repent as Iudah often did of her adulteries and when any of that church novv doe repent and forsake that apostasie they should not reteyn the baptisme other ordinances of God vvhich that church hath but should presently part with them and no longer keepe them seeing they are stollen goods How could you ever be thankfull ynough to M. Ainsvv O ye Anabaptists for thus pleading your cause if your opinions were good and his arguments and ansvvers sound thereabout Pag. 85. 5. The like errour and iniquitie he falleth into againe vvhiles he matcheth baptisme the other ordinances of God reteyned in the church of Rome with the feasts worship and sacrifices of the heathen ” Ephes 2 11 12. who vvere without Christ being aliens from the common vvealth of Israell and straungers from the covenants of promise having no hope and vvithout God in the world yea matcheth these things moreover vvith the Divel himself being transformed into an Angell of light Pag. 85. What miserable assertions are these and merely Anabaptisticall Certaine it is that the apostasie of the church of Rome and iniquitie of Antichrist is extreemely sinfull yet alvvaies we should remember in cases of apostasie as in Israell and Iudah to put difference betvveen the ordinances of God that still are reteyned in such estate and the inventions of men that are taken up of themselues and mixed vvithall Which this man not regarding though it be shewed him vvhiles he vvould shun the gulf of Poperie runs his leak bark upon the rocks of Anabaptistrie P. 86 92. 6. He maketh a large discourse touching Israel wherein he hath many truths which vve also hold and urge But yet notwithstanding he hath also some sleights errors contradictions mixed withall Whereof take these for instances I. That setting down my vvords he omitteth some special clauses of waight As namely vvhen I speak of ‡ Advert p. 60 and 61. a double consideration about the covenant of God made with his people I declared it thus * These clauses he omitteth Animadv pag. 86. one in respect of the Lord himself on the one part the other in respect of the people taken into covenant by him on the other part Deut. 26 17 18 19. Iudg. 2 1 20. And again that in these tvvo respects * These clauses he omitteth Animadv pag. 86. sometimes having reference to God sometimes to Israell may there many things be observed to be spoken diversly Pag. 87. c. II. That he oppugneth this diversitie of consideration hereabout whereof I haue spoken sufficiently ‘ Pag. ●6 111 c. here before Which double consideration vvhether it be not necessarie to be observed for the right understanding of the Scriptures and the estate of Israell and other churches let the vvise of heart judge As also whether he doe not in some things speak so about the covenant as may establish the righteousnes of works in some respect Alvvaies remembring that the covenant of God wherof vve speak is this that the Lord said to Abraham I wil be a God unto thee to thy seed after thee And again I will be your God and you shal be my people Gen. 17 7. 22 18. Hos 2 23.
which avouch the papacie to be the church it self which vve haue before disproved The papacie is a poyson in the church which poyson must needs be vomited out if it will be preserved or els the church vvilbe extinguished by it if it suffer that poyson to prevaile and possesse all the veynes of the bodie But how can she be the church will some say in which the papacie is Euen so as there is the body And this in which a disease worketh But because the papacie is a deadly corruption the more that the papacie getteth strength the more the church is weakned the increase of the one is the decrease of the other And hence it commeth to passe that in the churches which are called popish some are more healthie and some more unhealthie then others the more healthie are those which haue lesse of the papacie and more of the church and those are the more unhealthie which haue more of the papacie and lesse of the church of this kind I doubt not that church to be which at this day is at Rome For it had long agoe giuen up the ghost if God by the medicine of his grace and long suffring had not nourished and kept it warme Notwithstanding that we may giue content unto their minds which doe not yet reach unto these things And this or think that they are more subtily then truly spoken of the church which they call the papal or popish church let us answer this question in few words from the regard of al particular churches as they are among mē or in consideratiō of things humane Everie church which in deed is a church is considered two waies on Gods behalf as they speak on our behalf On Gods behalf it is altogether a church whersoever there is found a companie called of God with his calling by the spirit the holy Scripture the ministerie of persons ordeined for holy things divine actions On our behalf there is no church at al although it be so of God And this also as we haue said to which there doth not cleaue corruption concerning the persons things actions and finally the whole ministration of man ordeyned by God Now that which is on Gods part is not taken away by our default so long as it seemeth good unto the Lord to acknovvledge it for his church and call it by his calling by the spirit and holy Scripture and the ministerie For shall the unbeleef of men saith the Apostle Rom. 3 3. make the faith of God without effect shal the weaknes of man make voide the truth of God or his imperfection the perfection of God Far be it off yea let God be true and everie man a lyer saith the Apostle in the same place We wil make the matter plain by an example similitude out of the words of Ieremie ch 3. A wife being filthie with adulteries if her husband will pardon her and consent to receiue her And these clauses he passeth over and to dwell with her she abideth still the wife of her husband not in deed by her own fact for she hath broken wedlock what in her was but by the benefit or goodnes of her husband So a church overflowing not onely with lighter infirmities but also with grievous adulteries should cease in deed on her part to be a wife but she ceaseth not on her husbands part For touching the election as the Apostle saith Rom. 11 28. she is beloved for the fathers sakes speaking of the church of the Iewes It is a church so long whiles God calling her proclaymeth that which is in Ier. 3 13. Onely acknowledge thine iniquity that thou hast transgressed against the Lord thy God And these following hast scattered thy waies to the straungers under everie green tree and ye haue not obeyed my voice saith the Lord. Turn O backslyding people saith the Lord for I am maried unto you I wil receiue you c. It is a church so long whiles God with protestation calleth upon it departing from him being rebellious as it is in Esa 50 1. Where is the bil of your mothers divorcement wherewith I put her away or who is there of my creditors to whom I sould you c. The church then at length ceaseth to be a church whē God ceaseth to cal it back taketh away the evidence of that holy marriage that is the holy Scripture out of the hand of the adulteres and her that is stubburne testifying that the matrimonie is dissolved on his part so receiveth the covenant of grace to himself It is not for any man to deny that to be a church which God calleth a church Neither is it for any man to cal that a church which God having giuen the bil of divorce taken away the draught of the mariage contract denyeth so to be And after this maner doe we esteem of the church in which the papacie is God calleth her with his calling by his spirit word the publike records of that holy mariage which we cal the holy Scripture the ministerie holy things actions And this also which before we haue briefly reckoned up These things doe remain to that church most manifestly on Gods behalf But in that on the behalf of men al these holy things actions together with the very persons themselues abound overflow with most grievous deadly corruptions this is the sinne of men not the fault of God whose grace truth is perfected in infirmitie On Gods part she is yet called Hammi my people Ruchama finding mercy which most truly on her part may be called Lo hammi not my people Lo ruchama not obteyning mercie as we read in Hoseah the Prophet But we rely upon the mercy of God and according to his grace revealed we speak our mind or deliver our sentence concerning a church erring and going astray But this church hath every thing in it corrupt I cōfes it But in that it hath al the divine things in the Scriptures it is of God in that it hath thē al corrupt that is of it self And this in that it hath al the divine things it is a church in that it hath the same al corrupt it is a corrupt church The church is not takē away by corruption unles it be total as they speak which they cal destructiō And this A corruptiō that is in part doth not take away a church but wekē it The church of Rome hath al things corrupt but not altogether this is not a destructiō but is to be called a corruptiō of it in part For to prosecute these heads particularly which we haue briefly noted in the consideration of the church God by the alone presence of himself calling doth lay the foundatiō of the church And this whole passage he omitteth in Christ the head therof The church of Rome addeth another foundatiō to this foundation
and baptise them Matt. 28 19. Or if of younger persons also yet vvould not suffer any to haue the Lords supper at all because of the many questions and troubles that haue ben and yet are among the Papists Lutherans and other Protestants thereabout Novv hereupon I would aske vvhether it should be sinne and schisme to leaue such an estate and to obserue also Gods ordinance of the Lords supper according to his institution Or if any vvould permit the use of it but onely under one kind Or if in both kinds to wit both with bread wine yet vvould not admit it vvithout the acknowledgment of Transubstantiation or at least of Consubstantiation pressing still those vvords This is my body c. Matth. 26 26. Or would not haue it administred according to the simplicity of the Gospell but as Princes or people did themselues like best to haue it Or admitting both preaching of the vvord and ministration of the Sacraments yet would haue al though never so profane and notoriously vvicked to be partakers of the Lords Table and not to be censured admonished debarred excommunicated c. Or would not suffer the people to chuse their ovvne Officers according to the word of God or the Officers not to performe the dueties vvhich God requireth at their hands but at the pleasure of man Princes or people or at least of the greater part of the people urging those vvords Tell the church c. Matth. 18 17. and All things are yours c. 1 Cor. 3 21 22 23. Or finally and summarily vvould not suffer the Churches the ministers and people to obserue whatsoever Christ hath commanded Matth. 28 20. but if they had the word preached would not suffer the seales of Gods mercy the Sacraments one or both to be enjoyed or if they had both these vvould not permit the Lords discipline to be had the censures and sanctions of his judgment according to his word and instistution c. Whether novv I say in these and such like cases we should not obey God rather then man and whether it be schisme and sinne so to doe Sixtly the church of England it self and all the reformed churches and Protestants at this day are charged by the Papists to be schismaticks for leaving the present estate of the church of Rome But are they therefore so in deed Sundry Protestant Writers haue shewed good reasons to the contrarie divers of vvhich being indifferently vveighed may be applied to the points case now treated off albeit withal I acknowledge great and unspeakable difference to be between the estate of these churches blesse God daily for the many good things had in the church of England for that they haue left the church of Rome For which see particularly of our ovvn countreymen D. Raynolds sixt Conclusion eyther in Latin or as it is in English joyned with his Conference vvith Hart pag. 666 667 c. And D. Willets Synopsis Papismi in fol. pag. 608 609. c. Lastly vvhereas Conformity is much urged and such as doe not conforme themselues are charged vvith schisme vvhether they remayne in that church or leaue the present estate thereof that they may keep the ordinances of God according to his vvord vve are still to remember that there is a double Conformitie touching the outward worship of God The one is that Conformitie of rites and order which the Lord requireth and prescribeth in his word The other is the conformity vvhich the lavves and constitutions of men ordeyn and require To the former all are bound and unto it the Lord hath giuen his promise Matth. 28 18 19 20. 1 Tim. 6 3 4 5 13 14. compared with Exod. 20 4 5 6. Deut. 12 32. Mal. 1 7 14. Where Piscator well observeth that in the outward worship of God there is required both a conformitie of rite agreeing with the prescript of Gods commandement and synceritie in all which performe that worship to the Lord. Piscat Observ in Mal. 1 7 c. To the latter we are bound no further or othervvise then as it agreeth with the conformitie prescribed by the Lord himself because vve must worship the Lord onely as he hath appointed in his vvord and as we haue the promise of his acceptance and blessing therewithall For which see the Scriptures aforesaid and Deut. 4 1 2. Psal 119 101 128. Esa 29 13. 30 21 22. Matth. 15 9. Hos 4 15 17. Amos 5 4 5. 2 Cor. 6 14 15 16 17. Col. 2 23. Rev. 22 18 19. Some other things perteyning hereunto see also before pag. 116 117 c. and in the third Treatise here following Now if any aske vvhether that Christians and Churches may not and ought not to beare one with another in their differences of this also I haue spoken here before pag. 118 and 119 c. the brief summe whereof is this that we may and should so doe vvhen the Churches and Pastors thereof professing the faith of Christ stand in their ecclesiasticall estate immediately under Iesus Christ having libertie power in themselues to receiue any truth and redres any error or evil as they shal be perswaded thereof and in the meane time doe not urge others to sinne in their owne persons but suffer them peaceably to practise and walk in the vvay and order which the Lord hath prescribed in his word Which if it vvere the estate dealing of the churches in England and other the like at this day the question would in divers respects be othervvise for esteeming of them and vvalking with them then novv it is And these are the things which I thought here to note by this occasion touching the church of England in regard of the points in question betvveen us the Anabaptists others to much overcaried that way Other things there are also good to be considered off as namely the divers degrees of Gods manifesting the truth and consuming of Antichrist with his apostasie the different estate and proceeding of the Angels spoken off Rev. 14 6 8 9 15 17. c. and 15. and 16 chap. c. the difference of ordinarie and extraordinarie estate and calling the divers consideration of spirituall and bodily or personall communion the distinction of Provinciall Diocesan and particular churches vvith the Bishops thereof Also whether the particular churches among them be not become parts and members of the Diocesan and Provinciall churches in their estate Whether the prelates bereaue not the particular churches of many rights perteyning unto them more particularly take away from them some speciall rights and dueties of the Pastors ruling Elders people and in some respects of al estates generally among them Finally whether such Ministers as haue left the corruptions of that estate and liue in Churches rightly established may not yet notvvithstanding upon occasion † 1 King 13 chap. Hos 5 9. 7 12. Amo. 7 13 Rev. 14 6. c. preach in the other churches aforesaid both to
flesh and blood which can not comprehend them Rom. 9 18. Psal 115 3. Esa 14 24 27. and 28 29. and 46 9 10 11. Ezech. 1 4 c. Psal 92 5. Matth. 11.25.26 and 20 15. 5. Moreover If sinne foreseen be the cause of Reprobation then it is eyther originall or actuall sinne But not originall sinne because then all men being so borne should be reprobate Neyther actuall sinne first because then no infants no not of the Turks or Heathens that dye in their infancie should be reprobate secondly because that then on the other hand all of yeres should be reprobate and rejected seeing all such sinne actually as the Scripture teacheth and al vvil acknovvledge 1 King 8 46. Psal 14 2 3. Rom. 3 9 19. Eccles 7 20. 6. Besides if unbelief or other sinne foreseene should be the cause of Reprobation then should also faith and holines foreseen be the cause of Gods election But this is not so as vvas shevved here before p. 221 c. 7. Finally vvhy els should the Apostle so sharply rebuke such as make vaine and odious objections hereabout as he doth vvhen he saith O man vvho art thou that repliest against God Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it Why hast thou made me thus Hath not the potter povver over the day of the same lumpe to make one vessell unto honour and another unto dishonour What if God vvilling to shevv his vvrath to make his povver knovven indured vvith long suffring the vessels of vvrath fitted to destruction and that he might make knovven the riches of his glorie on the vessels of mercy which he hath afore prepared unto glorie Rom. 9 20 23. And hovv greatly again doth the same Apostle admire and reverendly adore Gods dealing herein teaching us by his example so to doe as he doth saying O the depth of the riches both of the wisedome and knowledge of God how unsearchable are his judgements and his waies past traceing out For who hath knowen the mynd of the Lord or who hath ben his counsellour Or who hath first giuen to him it shal be recompensed unto him again For of him through him and to him are all things to vvhom be glorie for ever Amen Rom. 11 33 36. SOME OBJECTIONS AND ANSWERS Object I. But this opinion and doctrine maketh God to be the first cause and author of all sinne Ansvv Not so For first the elect also sinne and not the Reprobate onely And Gods decree of reprobation perteyneth onely to the Reprobate and not to the elect Another cause therefore there is and must needs be of sinne both in the elect and reprobate namely the abuse of free vvill in Adam in vvhom all haue sinned and of whom all are descended both the elect and reprobate and synce Adams fall mans naturall corruption his corrupt vvill concupiscence Gen. 3 1 6. and 5 3. compared vvith Rom. 5 12 19. Jam. 1 13 17. Eccles 7 29. Ephes 2 3. 2. Secondly vve are to distinguish between the action and the corruption of sinne Also betvveen sinne and the punishment of sinne Sinne as sinne and the corruption thereof is of man who being made righteous transgressed vvittingly willingly For vvhich see the Scriptures aforesaid and the like But as it is an action the abilitie to doe this or that is of God in vvhom we liue and moue and haue our being Act. 17 21. also as it is the punishment of sinne it is justly inflicted by the Lord vvho is just to punish sinne Thus God hardneth the heart of Pharaoh Exod. 4 21. 9 12 16. vvith Rom. 9 17 18. and Pharaoh hardneth it himself Exo. 8 15 32. and 9 34. Which as Pharaoh doth it is sinne as God doth it it is the punishment of sinne And thus it hath the consideration of good for declaration of the justice of God For God is just in all his waies and holy in all his vvorks Psal 145 17. and his understanding is infinite vvhich man may admire but cānot cōprehend Psa 147 5. 77 19. vvith Rom. 11 13-36 3. Thirdly distinguish also betvveen effects and consequents Sinnes come after Gods decree of Reprobation not as effects therof but as cōsequents that follovv after it It is most holy so not the cause of sinne 4. Neither is it sound to say because God suffereth this or that therefore he doeth it Difference is to be put between Gods decree of permission vvhich concerneth all and between Gods decree of Reprobation vvhich respecteth onely some to wit the Reprobate Besides all know that men suffer many things which they doe not nor can be said to doe nay vvhich many times they forbid And the cause of an action rightly and properly considered is in the doer not in the sufferer 5. Otherwise let it be observed whether these men themselues doe not in deed by their opinions make God the author of sinne and of evill and destruction vvho hold that God would haue all and every particular man vvhosoever to be saved and cannot deny but he is able to saue all vvhom he is vvilling to saue and yet also grant as the truth is that he doth not saue all What now vvil follow hereupon according to their assertions let them consider with themselues 6. Finally God is so farre from being author of sinne as it is sinne as he hateth forbiddeth and condemneth it vvhich his word everie where and his vvorks at all times make manifest Object II. But the Lord saith by Ezekiell I will not the death of the wicked but that the wicked turne from his way and liue Ezec. 18 23 32. and 33 11. Ansvv 1. The Lord is not contrarie to himself who saith by the same Prophet As the vine tree among the trees of the forest which I haue giuen to the fire for fewell so vvill I giue the inhabitants of Jerusalem and I vvill set my face against them they shall goe out from one fire and another fire shall devoure them and you shall knovve that I am the Lord vvhen I set my face against them Ezec. 15 6 7. Where the Prophet shevveth that as the vine tree is by Gods framing and disposition of it giuen to be fevvell for the fyer so also the Ievves inhabitants of Ierusalem vvere then by the speciall decree of God appointed to the fire and destruction 2. The Prophet speaketh of temporarie death as may appeare by Ezech. 33 11 25 28. and 18 2 13 27. compared vvith chapt 12 and 13 and 14 and 15 c. vvhereas the question is about reprobation to eternall death And great difference there is betvveen these tvvo as may be seen in the cases of Naboth and the Blasphemer spoken of Lev. 24. who vvere both of them stoned to death Lev. 24 14 21. and 1 King 21 1 13. Also in Iosiah and Achab who vvere both slaine in battell 1 King 22 34 35. and 2 Chron. 35 20 24. These now had a like bodily
hath there ben a reconciliation made again betweene the parties aforesaid and that enmitie between them taken avvay for Christ is the Lambe slaine from the foundation of the world Rev. 13 8. Hebr. 13 8. And so the counsell and vvork of God should be infringed touching that hostile and perpetuall enmitie vvhich the Lord himself said he vvould put between the seed of the serpent and the seed of the vvoman as is aforesaid But this cannot stand with the unchangeablenes of Gods counsell or truth of his word And therefore is erroneous Not to speak of that confirmation thereof which the continual experience of all ages and euen of this generation wherein we liue at this day may afford 4. And if vve look at Israel we may obserue that in the Tabernacle Temple there were tvvo Altars the one called the brasen Altar for the burnt offering and sacrifice the other the golden Altar for the burning of incense thereupon At both vvhich the Priests as types of Iesus Christ ministred in Israell The one more specially typing out the Redemption vvrought by Christ the other his Intercession Exod. 27 1 8. and 30 1 8. Ezech. 40 47. and 41 22. and 43 13 27. compared vvith Heb. 13 10 11 12. Revel 8 3 4. By which as we may learne against the Papists that Iesus Christ is our Redeemer at the brasen altar on vvhom alone vve are to relie for salvation and our Intercessour at the golden altar on vvhom alone also vve are to relye for the mediation of his Intercession for us and not upon the Angels or Saints departed so likewise for the question in hand we may furthermore learne this withall that Iesus Christ is Redeemer onely for them for whom he is Intercessour And Intercessour he is onely for the Elect and faithfull and not for the world the Reprobate and wicked therein As Christ himself and the Prophets and Apostles doe teach us Ioh. 17 9 20 24. Psal 16 3 4. with Act. 2 25 36. Esa 53 12. Rom. 8 33 34. Heb. 9 24. Rev. 8 3 4. Therefore also he is the Redeemer onely of the elect and not of the world the wicked and reprobate vvhosoever Which is yet further confirmed unto us by the very names and titles vvhich in the Scriptures are attributed to Christ agreably hereunto as namely that he is called Jesus Christ the Saviour the Annoynted one the Author Captaine and finisher of our faith and salvation the great shepheard of the sheep the shepheard and Bishop of our soules the Father of eternitie the Prince of peace the Angell of the covenant the Sun of righteousnes the comfort of Israell and eternall life c. Mat. 1 21 22 23. 16 16. Act. 2 36. Heb. 2 10. and 12 2. and 13 20. 1 Pet. 2 25. 1 John 4 14. Esa 7 14. and 9 6. 1 Tim. 2 5. Mal. 3 1. and 4 2. Luk. 2 25. 1 Ioh. 5 12.20 5. Hither also may be referred that as the Passeover of old vvas instituted and killed for Israell onely and not for the Egyptians so Christ our Passeover was ordeyned and sacrificed onely for his Israel chosen people and not for the vvicked and all in the world vvhosoever none excepted Exod. 12. chap. 2 Chron. 30. and 35. Ezr. 6 19 22. compared with 1 Cor. 5,7 and Rom. 8 33 34. 1 Pet. 1 2 18 21. 1 Joh. 5 19 20. 6. Christ by his death hath redemed those onely for vvhom the Lords pleasure prospereth in his hand whom also he maketh to be his seed him to be the chastisement of their peace to be healed vvith his stripes Esa 53 5 10. with 1 Pet. 2 24 25. Which fruit and effect is onely in the elect and not in all whosoever as all will confesse Otherwise also we should extend the redemption of Christ further then God himself vvho gaue him to death for us intended it and contrarie to the Scriptures which apply it onely to some and not to all and everie one in the world whosover Psa 16 2 3 4. c. with Act. 2 25 36. Esa 9 6 7. 53 4 67. Ier. 23 5 6. Dan 9 24 27. Ioel 2 33. Mic. 5 2. Mal. 4 2. Mat. 1 21. 20 28. 26 28. Luk. 19 9 10. Rom. 8 33 34. Heb. 9 28. 10.14 13 10 11 12 20 21 1 Ioh 5 4 12 13 19 20. 7. Christ layd dovvne his life onely for his sheep Joh. 10 11 15 16. and 15 19. Heb. 13 20. 1 Pet. 2 24 25. And therefore not for al in the world seeing all are not his sheep Joh. 10 26. Mat. 25 33. c. 8. Christ dyed to confirme the covenant of Gods grace for eternall salvation unto his people Dan. 9 24 27. Gal. 3 13 18. Heb. 9 15 16. and 13 20 21. Mal. 3 1. and 4 2. with Mat. 1 21. and 26 27 28. And therefore onely for them that are the heires of salvation For vvhich see the Scriptures reasons aforesaid Now whereas Daniell speaking of the Messiah saith he should be cut off and bring in everlasting righteousnes and confirme the covenant with Many Piscat resp ad disp Taufren p. 73. c. c. Dan. 9 24 27. two things there are about the vvord Many well observed by some vvriters which here I vvill mention One is that if we doe thus translate and understand the vvord Many then we must remember that the elect godly for the number of them are to be considered two vvaies either in comparison with others or simply in themselues The elect and godly in comparison of the reprobate and ungodly are few and the lesser number Mat. 7 13 14. and 20 16. and 22 14. Rom. 9 27 Piscat in Dan. 9 27. 28 29. with Esa 1 9. and 10 22 23. But being considered in themselues the elect and faithful are many and the number of them very great Mat. 20 28. Heb. 9 28. with Esa 53 11 12. Rev. 7 4 9. The other thing is that the word here translated Many may also be translated the excellent the great the noble glorious honourable c. as the same vvord is by Daniell in the singular number used applied to God vvhen he calleth him the great God Dan. 2 45. and by others also is used when they speak of men or other things that are great or excellent as in Iob. 32 9. Ier. 41 12. Hos 8 12. and so likevvise may be understood in Esa 53 11. And thus it agreeth vvith Davids speach Psa 16. where using another word he bringeth in Christ speaking to God the Father thus My goodnes extendeth not to thee but to the Saints vvhich are on earth to the excellent in vvhom is all my delight Psal 16 2 3 c. By vvhich Psalme also we may learne for the question in hand that the benefit of Christs redemption and mediation is not to be extended to Idolaters unbelevers or other like wicked persons vers 4. but onely to
those in whom Christ delighteth that is to the Saints that are great excellent and noble being made the sonnes of God in Christ ver 3. vvith 1 Ioh. 3 1. Joh. 1 12. For whom Christ dyed and rose again from the dead is set in glorie at the right hand of God vvhere are pleasures for evermore Psal 16. And that thus we may understand and apply this Psalme unto Christ and to the work of his redemption and mediation vve may learne by the Apostles themselues so alledging applying it other psalmes accordingly Act. 2 25 36. compared with Psal 16 8 11. and 110 1. 132 11. 9. They whom Christ hath redeemed by his death haue remission of sinnes through the blood of his crosse receiue the spirit of adoption of sonnes are sanctified renewed and made conformable to the image of Christ are never separated from the loue of God vvhich is in Christ Iesus become members of that body vvhereof Christ is the head and Saviour are the Saints of the High ones or of the high places and haue the Angels sent forth to minister for them as being the heires of salvation Ephes 1 7. Col. 1 12 14. Rom. 8 15 39. Gal. 4 4 7. Exod. 29 36 37. and Ezec. 43 13 27. with Heb. 13 10 12. and 2 9 11. and 10 14 19 20. Tit. 3 4 7. Phil. 3 10. Ephes 1 3 23. and 5 23 27. Dan. 7 13 14 18 25 27. with chapt 9 24 27. Psal 91 11 16. Mat. 18 10 11. Heb. 1 3 13 14. Of vvhich graces and benefits seeing all are not partakers but the elect and beleevers onely therefore also the Redemption of Christ and the fruit thereof perteyneth to these onely not to all in the vvorld whosoever 10. Christ at his first comming vvas once offered to beare the sinnes of the Many unto vvhom expecting him he shall appear the second time vvithout sinne unto salvation Heb. 9 28. Which second appearance of his seeing it shall not be unto all for salvation but onely to the many spoken off who are the heires of salvation as may be seen in 1 Pet. 1 2 5. Matth. 25 31 46. 1 Thes 1 10. and 2 Thes 1 6 10. Tit. 2 11 14. 1 Ioh. 1 2 3. in the other Scriptures aforesaid therefore also Christ was offered to beare the sinnes onely of them and not of all in the vvorld whosoever whatsoever they be Herevvith also accord sundry speaches of auncient writers As vvhen Ambrose saith God knovveth vvhat the Spirit desireth Rom. 8 26 27. and vvhat is the mynd of the Spirit because he maketh intercession for the Saints as it is written because euen the Spirit maketh intercession for us For they for whom Christ suffered and whom he hath cleansed with his blood for them doth the spirit also make intercession Ambros tom 2. libr. 5. epist 23. And Augustine The Donatists vvould not agree that by the name of the World the church could be signified contrarie to the words of the Apostle who saith 2 Cor. 5.19 God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself and contrarie to the words of the Lord himself who said The sonne of man came not to judge the world Ioh. 3 17. 12 47. but that the world through him might be saved For the world cannot be reconciled to God and saved by him unlesse that by the name of the World the church be understood which onely being reconciled by him is saved August tom 7. lib. contra Donatist And again He that spared not his owne sonne Rom. 8 32 33. with ver 29.30 but delivered him up for us all how shall he not with him also freely giue all things unto us But to whom To us that are foreknowne and predestinated justified glorified of whom it followeth Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Gods Elect August tom 9 tractat 45. in Iohan. Again also Hovv then said he unto these ye are not of my sheep Because he saw they were predestinate to eternal destruction Ioh. 10.26 not ordeyned or purchased to eternall life by the raunsome of his blood Ibid. tractat 48. in Iohan. And Cyrill likewise Christ is novv also subject to the Father Hebr. 9.14 1 Pet. 1 19 20 21. yet not for all but onely for them that beleeue in him for whom he offered himself as a lambe without ●●ot unto the Father that he might offer them unto God being freed from all sinne Cyrill Thesauri lib. 10. cap. 8. CHAPTER IIII. Touching freewill or power in our selues unto good since the fall VVHether true conversion unto God saving faith in Iesus Christ be not the free gift of God and the vvork of his grace powerfully vvrought in us to his praise and glorie And is not of our selues or in the povver of our freevvill as grace is offered to receiue or to refuse it to beleeue or not to beleeue as we will our selues but is vvholly the free gracious and povverfull work of God in us as is aforesaid Eph. 1 ch and 2 1 8 9 10. Phil. 1 29. and 2 13. Col. 1 12 13 21. 2 Thes 1 3 11 12. Ioh. 1 5 11.12 13. and 3 3 6 27. and 6 44 65. Act. 16 14. and 26 15 18. Gen. 6 3 5. Deut. 30 6. Job 15 16. Psal 51 5. and 100 3. Prov. 27 22. Ier. 31 18 33. Ezech. 11 19 20. and 16 6. Iam. 1 17 18. 1 Ioh. 3 1. Heb. 12 2. and 13 20 21. 1. Because saving faith holynes is a fruit of Gods election of grace and therefore is the vvork of his grace povver in us to his praise Act. 13 48. Ephes 1 3 4. and 2 8 9. Tit. 1 1. Of vvhich see here before pag. 222. 2. It is God that maketh us and not we our selues to be his people the sheep of his pasture Psal 100 3. Ioh. 10 16 27 29. Heb. 13 20 21. 1 Pet. 2 25. It is Gods vvork alone vvho as he created us at first according to his owne image and likenes so also createth regenerateth renevveth us againe by his Spirit in Christ according to his image in righteousnes holynes of truth Gen. 1 26 27. vvith Ephes 4 24. Col. 3 10. Ier. 31 18. Lam. 5 21. Euen the heathens themselues acknovvledge for our naturall life that vve are the generation of God in vvhom vve liue and moue and haue our being as the Apostle alledgeth out of their ovvne vvritings Act. 17 28. And should not then Christians much more acknowledge for our spirituall life that our new birth and regeneration is of God that as our first generation for our naturall life is not of our ovvne selues nor in our ovvn power to vvork or hinder it so neyther our regeneration or new birth but is the good powerful vvork of God in us by his Spirit through Iesus Christ to whom he giveth us and out of vvhose hands none is able to take us Psal
heard him that spake unto me c. Eze. 2.1.2 vvith chap. 1 28. and 3 23 24. The like againe may be observed in the Lords dealing with Daniel and so is noted by himself Dan. 10.8 19. And in Christs dealing with Lazarus vvhen he raised him up from death Ioh. 11.43.44 vvith ver 40 41 42. And as touching the preaching and ministerie of the word vvhereabout the objection is much urged we read in the Acts of the Apostles hovv vvhen Luke had noted that Lydia being together vvith other vvomen assembled heard the Apostle speak unto them he presently annexeth that the Lord opened her heart that she attended to the things spoken by Paul And so she became a Christian and was baptised and her houshold Act. 16 14 15. Which likewise shevveth that instruction and exhortation is a meanes vvhich it pleaseth God to use and yet that the fruit thereof dependeth upon the Lords ovvne gracious and powerfull vvorking in us thereby as he pleaseth Whereupon it was that the vvord spoken by the Apostle vvas more fruitfull in Lydia then in the other persons that were there also met together to vvhom Paul spake asvvell as unto her Act. 16.13.14 Without vvhich vvork and blessing of the Lord no increase followeth whatsoever meanes be used as vvas shewed here before Whereunto may be referred that the Apostle saith I haue planted Apollo vvatered but God gaue the increase 1 Cor. 3 6. It is God saith the Apostle that giveth the increase He saith not I haue planted Apollo vvatered but it is of men themselues vvhen the grace is offered to receiue or to refuse it and so to haue some increase or none at all as pleaseth themselues The Apostles teach not so but their doctrine leadeth us to acknovvledge the meanes used by God and yet thereupon neyther to debase the vvork of God nor to advance the vvill or povver of man vvho is dead in sinne and alienated in mynd 〈…〉 the flesh and of the mynd till vve be quickned converted and renevved by the Lord. Ans 3. Besides God may vvell so speak unto man as he made him at first in holynes and righteousnes having free vvill and abilitie unto that vvhich vvas good and holy Whereof novv being deprived by his ovvne voluntarie fall and transgression the blame therefore lyeth upon our selues that vve are not able to performe the commandements exhortations giuen unto us unlesse it please God to renevv us and to vvork in us both to vvill and to doe of his good pleasure Gen. 1 26. and 3.1 7. and 5.3 Eccl. 7.29 vvith Ephes 4.20 24. Phil 2.13 Ans 4. Othervvise in this our corrupt estate vve find that the Lavv vvorketh vvrath and increaseth sinne and maketh it more appear vve being in our selues miserably corrupted since the fall and more and more hardned in evill vvithout the grace of God and povverfull vvorking of his spirit in us as is aforesaid Rom. 4.14.15 and 7.8.9 c. Ans 5. And thus also may be observed hovv the commandements and exhortations spoken off shevv our dutie rather then our abilitie As the Lavv shevveth us vvhat vve ought to doe not vvhat vve are able to doe Whereof vve may likewise make good use to know our own weaknes and sinfulnes the more that so being humbled in our selues we may pray unto God for his grace and mercie that he would work in us his owne good vvork with power to the praise and glorie of his name in Iesus Christ Which is another good use of the commandements and exhortations giuen unto us 10. Finally the contrarie doctrine derogateth greatly from the glorie of God and giveth unto man part of the glorie of our conversion and salvation For look how much we ascribe to the will and power of man so much in very deed vve take from the grace and work of God And if it be in our selues and in the power of our own vvill to turne unto God to exempt our selues from others that doe it not then should we haue so far forth whereof to glorie But most sure it is that we haue not where of to glorie vvith God herein vvho vvill haue the full and vvhole glorie to himself of our conversion and salvation in Christ Therefore in this respect also the contrarie doctrine is erroneous not according to the truth of the gospell 1 Cor. 1 26 31. and 4 7. Ephes 2 8 9. 2 Thes 1 11 12. compared vvith Joh. 7 18. and 16 13 14. Herewith also agree some sayings of the auncient Writers As vvhen Augustine saith Free will to loue God vve haue lost by the greatnes of the first sinne August tom 2. epist 107. ad Vitalem And againe Man using free vvill yll lost both it and himself Ibid. tom 3. Enchiridio ad Laurentium cap. 30. Petrus Diaconus and others What could or can be borne of a servant but a servant For Adam when he was free begate not children but after he vvas made the servant of sinne Therefore as everie one is of him so also everie man is the servant of sinne through him Petr. Diac. c. de incarnatione gratia Christi seu de gratia libero arbitrio cap. 6. And Fulgentius Hold firmely and doubt not at all that no man can come to repentance but whom God inlighteneth and converteth of his gracious mercy compassion Fulgent or August lib. de fide ad Petrum Diaconum cap. 31. And thus much concerning free vvill or power in our selues unto good since the Fall CHAPTER V. Touching the perseverance of the Saints that are truely godly and syncerely beleeue in Jesus Christ VVHether the Saints of God such as faithfully beleeue being made partakers of the spirit of adoption ingrafted into Iesus Christ by true and living faith are not by the grace povver of God in Christ so guided susteyned and preserved as they shall not and in respect of God can not wholly and for ever fall avvay from the Lord utterly be rejected by him and loose that his quickning spirit and saving faith in Iesus Christ Although they be subject still in this life through infirmitie of the flesh in themselues to fall into sinne sometimes also into great and grievous sinnes As may be seen in Noah David Peter c. 2 Cor. 1 19 22. Ephes 1 13 14. and 3 16 20. and 5 23. Rom. 8 15 23. 1 Joh. 5 1 13 1 Cor. 1 4 9. Esa 54 8 9 10. and 55 3. with Act. 13 34. Ier. 31 31 37. and 32.40 Amos 9 9. Habak 2 2 3 4. vvith Rom. 1 16 17. and Heb. 11 ch with 10 38 39. and 13 20 21. Mat. 24 24 31. Ioh. 4 14. and 5 24. and 6 35 37 39 40 54-55 and 10 27.28 29. and 17 24. Rom 8 28 39. and 11 29. Phil. 1 6. Heb. 6 17 20. cōpared with Gen. 9 8 16.21 2 Sam. 11 3 4. Mat. 26. 69 75. 1 Cor. 10 13. 2 Tim. 1 12. 1 Pet. 1 3 4
these allegations out of the Scripture Another allegation about the matter aforesaid is taken out of auncient writers Park Polit eccles p. 236. c. shewing that in some churches heretofore there were two Bishops or Pastors in one and the same office in one church at once As namely that there vvas in the church of Ierusalem at once Narcissus and Alexander and in the church of Hippo Valerius and Augustine in Rome Felix Liberius in Nazianzum Gregorie the father Gregorie the sonne c. Euseb l. 6. c. 7.9.10 Sozomen l. 4. c. 14. August epist 110. Gregor Nazianz. epist ad Gregor Nyssenum Whereabout may be considered I. Whether this vvas ordinarie or extraordinarie If ordinarie how is it then that the same other auncient vvriters doe usually still make mention but of one in one church at one time as in their vvritings everie vvhere may be seen If extraordinarie and upon some speciall occasions what then vvas the ordinarie course that vvas otherwise kept and observed usually II. By the instances alledged it appeareth that there were but two of these Bishops in these churches at those times Whereas by the Scriptures alledged and the generall acknovvledgement almost of all there may be many Elders or Bishops in a church and far moe then tvvo Yea if there were but one pastor one teacher one ruling Elder in a church there vvould yet be moe Elders or Bishops then two at once III. The tvvo aforesaid also vvere both of them teaching Elders and Ministers of the vvord and Sacraments vvhereas the Scriptures shevve that there vvere and should be in the Church both teaching and ruling Elders IIII. The vvriters vvhich mention these note some special occasions thereof as that it was in case of old age or sicknes or special good liking and approbation of the parties and returning to the churches and places from which through troubles or otherwise they had some vvhile ben absent or other the like and some difference vvithall observed betvveene some of them Which is also duly to be regarded For vvhich see the ●●ters and places aforesaid V. The time moreover is to be noted when this vvas done Which by the instances alledged appeareth to be some good vvhile after the Apostles dayes Whereas the question is concerning the primitiue institution and practise from the beginning VI. Also if such examples in later times so recorded by these writers should be respected vvhy should not then the other examples of former times recorded by the same and other Writers likewise VII And finally the onely sure ground of truth and end of controversies in Religion is the word of God vvherevvith so far as the auncient Writers accord their testimonies vvritings may in their place well be regarded According to it therefore I leaue these things vvith the other before alledged out of the Scriptures to be considered discussed And hitherto of the latter braunch of this question Novv furthermore note withall that how ever it be for the matter in hand touching the Pastors and other Elders of particular churches yet still it lyeth on them who receiue or plead for Diocesan and Provinciall churches Pastors or Bishops that they shevv such churches and Pastors planted by the Apostles at the beginning For if it cannot be shevved that the Apostles by vertue of their commission from Christ established such Diocesan and Provincial churches and Bishops who then may establish or submit unto them If they vvho were the Master-builders under Christ did not set them up vvhat povver then is there under heauen that may erect them and what homage is it that a Christian soule can with good conscience yeeld unto them in this behalf 2. The churches must be such and so established as the Lord appointeth and approveth in his vvord Revel 1 12 20. And everie officer in the church must in a due regard be counted a mēber in the body of Christ Rom. 12 3 8. 1 Cor. 12 12 28. Ephes 4 4 16. And none may set members in the body of Christ but the Lord himself 1 Cor. 12 18 28. c. Euen as on the cōtrarie none may keep out despise or abandon those vvhom the Lord hath appointed to be in his church and to continevv therein to the end of the vvorld Rom. 12.6.7.8 Ephe. 4 11 12. with Esa 66 21. 1 Tim. 3.1 15. and 5 3 9 17. with 6 13 14. and with Mat. 28.18.19.20 Luke 10.16 and 12 42 43. Ioh. 13 20. 1 Pet. 5 1 4. Rev. 1 16 20. and 2 1 8 c. 3. Moreover the functions duties of such Prelates if they be members of the body of Christ are to be shewed out of the word of God as vve see done for the Officers of particular churches Rom. 12 6 7 8. Ephes 4.11.12 vvith Esa 66.21 1 Thes 5.12.13.24 1 Tim. 5.17 Rev. 2.1.8 c. and as vvas in Israell for the hy Priest and for the other Priests and Levites besides that vvhich was in their cities and Synagogues Exod. 28. and 29. Lev. 1 16 chap. c. Num. 3 and 4 and 8. Deut. 16 19 chap. Josh 21 chap. 1 Chron. 23 26 ch Luke 4 16 20. Act. 13.14.15 c. 4. The place also and manner vvhere and hovv such Bishops doe and can meet together with the rest of the body whereof they are members that is with their Diocesan and Provinciall churches is to be shewed in their practise agreable to the Scriptures as may be done for the Pastors of particular churches and their assemblies Rev. 1 20. and 2 and 3 ch vvith Acts 20.17.28 Rom. 12.4 8. Col. 4.16.17 1 Thes 5.12.13.14.27 Heb. 13.7.17.24 Jam. 2.2 vvhere the Apostle calleth the assemblies of Christians Synagogues vvhich as I noted before may haue reference to the Synagogues of the Ievves Mat. 4 23. Luke 4 16 20. Acts 13.5.14.15.42 and 14.1 and 17.1.2 and 18.4.7.8 c. As also Ierusalem was the place whither the Iewes were bound to come thrise a yere and where the high Priest and the other Priests and Levites that ministred there were bound to sacrifice and performe the other duties of their callings for the vvhole church from time to time according as the Lord particularly appointed in his word 5. Yea the higher and greater that the members and functions are which the Lord hath set in his church the more undoubted it is that they are specially described in his word and the more needfull both for the church and the Officers themselues to haue certain knowledge and assurance thereof As was for the chief Priests other officers of the church of Israell Necessarie therefore it is that the Diocesan and Provinciall Churches if any such vvere planted by the Apostles and the office entrance administration of Diocesan and Provinciall Bishops vvhich challenge to be chief in the church and distinct from the Pastors and Bishops of particular churches should be shewed out of the Scriptures by such as hold would uphold them if they
or others that are not tyed to any particular churches I leaue it to be considered discussed by the vvord of God vvhether such be not sometimes raised up of God extraordinarily or having an ordinarie calling may upon speciall occasion be sent out by Princes as of old was done by Iehoshaphat king of Iudah or be called and allovved to teach by the Vniversities and Governors thereof or designed by particular churches or approved by the Pastors and Presbyteries of one or moe churches or by some other good and lawfull meanes be admitted appointed to the performance of the duties aforesaid according to the rules and examples had in the vvord of God 1 King 19 16. Amos 7 14 15. Mat. 9 36 37 38. and 21 23 25 34 36. Luke 1.17 2 Chron. 17.7.8.9 Sal. Song 8.1.2 or 8.9 Acts 8.4.14.26 and 11.19.22 and 13.1.2.3 1 Tim. 4.14 with 2 Tim. 1.6 and 2.2 Revel 11.3.4.10 and 18.24 Some write † M. Brou on Rev. 11. p. 108. 109 that among the Ievves such as vvere taken to be Doctors or Teachers for to teach the people were first held to be very learned and that then some of the Sanedrin laid their hands upon such a one and said Rabbi take thou authoritie to teach what is bound and vvhat is loose Maymon in Sanedrin And then might Christ vvell haue reference thereunto Mat. 16 19. and John 20 23. Which point I thought good here to note downe and to leaue it to further observation As also vvhether some like course may not or should not still be used for the orderly calling of Teachers and ministers to the office and work of the ministerie in the time of the Gospell And finally vvhat may be intended by those words of the Prophet vvhere Esay prophecying of the time of the Gospell and calling of the Gentiles bringeth in the Lord speaking thus And I will also take of them of the Gentiles for Priests and for Levites saith the Lord. c. Esa 66.21 22. Where all the vvords are vvell to be observed when he saith And also I will take saith the Lord of the Gentiles for Priests and for Levites c. For in deed the Lord himself took the Priests and Levites out of the tribes of Israel to be the ministers of the Sanctuarie and to minister therein still on age after age one after another untill the time of correction at Christs comming Exod. 28 and 29. Lev. 8. and 9. Numb 8. Deut. 10.8 and 33.8 11. 1 Chron. 15 2 3 24. 2 Chron. 29.4 11. with Heb. 9.6 10. c. Whereas the ruling Elders and Governors vvere then at first appointed to be chosen by the people Deut. 1.9.13 and 16.18 And vvhat also by the Apostles speach vvhen speaking likevvise of the ministeriall offices of the Gospell he saith that Christ ascending up on high gaue gifts unto men And that he gaue some Apostles some Prophets and some Euangelists and some Pastors and Teachers for the perfecting of the Saints for the work of the ministerie for the edifying of the body of Christ till we all come into the unitie of the faith and of the knovvledge of the Sonne of God unto a perfect man unto the measure of the stature of the fulnes of Christ Ephes 4.11.12.13 Where likewise there is no mention of the ruling Elders as not being appointed for the vvork of the ministerie and being also before plainly ynough and sufficiently designed in the Elders of the church of Israell But the speach here is onely of the ministers of the Gospell vvhere again al the words are to be observed both touching the giver Christ himself ver 1 and 11. and the severall offices of ministerie giuen ver 11. the use ver 12. vvith the durance and continuance of them ver 13. For although the offices of the Apostles Prophets and Euagelists be not novv in any particular mens persons as they were then yet the fruit of them abideth still and is perpetuall in their writings and labors in the foundation layd once for all and in the plantation of the churches according to the ordinance of Christ Mat. 28.18.19.20 John 15.16 1 Cor. 3.10.11 and 4.9.10 Eph. 2 20. and 3 5 6 7. and 4 8 13. 1 Tim. 3 1 15. and 6 13 14. 2 Tim. 2 2. Rev. 21 14 19 20. And the offices of Pastors and Teachers answerable to the Priests and Levites in Israell Esa 66 21. Ier. 33 18 22. are still to endure in the church for the work of the ministerie age after age to the end of the vvorld And vvhether therefore the Lord hath not still preserved his ministerie though corrupted as he hath also done his seale of Baptisme through the corruptest times that ordinarily such a calling should alvvay be had thereunto of al Pastors and Teachers as we may be assured it is derived from Christ himself by the Apostles Euangelists and other ministers of Christ from the beginning unto this day and shall likewise still be continued untill the appearing of our Lord Iesus Christ Ephes 4 11 12 13. compared with Esa 66 21 22. and 59 21. Jer. 33 18 22. and vvith Mat. 28 18 19 20. Act. 14 23. and 20 17 28. 1 Tim. 3 1 15. and 5 22. and 6 13 14. 2 Tim. 2 2. Tit. 1 5. Heb. 12 28. 1 Pet. 5 1-4 Rev 1 4 11 19 20. 2 1 8. c. and 7 16 ch and 10 7 11. and 11 10 11 12. and 14 6 18. and 18 24. and 21 and 22 chap. CHAPTER VIII Touching the exercise of Prophecy VVHether in the churches vvhere there are men indued vvith fitte gifts there should not be had the exercise of Prophecy for interpreting of the Scriptures disputing of points of religion propounding of objections ansvvering of questions fitly and needfully made and such other good uses profitable for the church and the edification thereof in the truth vvhich is according to godlines And this exercise also to be done not onely by the Ministers of the vvord Specially such as employ themselues in the study of the Scriptures but by others also having gifts that are fit and able thereunto Yet alvvaies so as al things be done decently and in order Rom. 12.6 and 1 Thes 5 20. compared vvith 1 Cor. 12 7. and 14 chap. Luke 2 46 47. with Ioh. 7 14 15. 1 Pet. 4 10 11. 2 Tim. 2 2 15 16 23. vvith Act. 15 1 2 6 7 22.32 and 17 2 3. and 18 4 26. and 19 8 9 10. Mat. 13 52. Also 1 Sam. 10 5 10 12. and 19 20 21 23. 2 King 2 3 5 7. and 4 38. and 5 22. and 6 1. Amos 7 14. with 1 Cor. 14 1 40. 1. Because this order and exercise vvas in Israell and in the primitiue churches Luke 2 46 47. Act. 17 1 2 3. and 18 1 4 24 26. and 19 1 8 9 10. vvith Rom. 12 6. 1 Cor. 12 7. and 14 ch 1 Thes 5 19 20. 1 Tim. 1 3 4. and 2 Tim.