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A01324 A reioynder to Bristows replie in defence of Allens scroll of articles and booke of purgatorie Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the supper of our Lord, and the apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, confuted by William Fulke, Doctor in Diuinitie, and master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge. Seene and allowed. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1581 (1581) STC 11448; ESTC S112728 578,974 809

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as_o they_o write_v of_o be_v orderly_a succession_n by_o the_o time_n of_o these_o father_n say_v bristol_n there_o have_v be_v four_o schism_n ar._n 85._o answer_n in_o the_o first_o proposition_n i_o speak_v of_o tertullians_n time_n and_o succession_n of_o doctrine_n and_o name_n succession_n simple_o in_o the_o second_o proposition_n i_o speak_v of_o the_o whole_a time_n until_o our_o day_n and_o of_o succession_n of_o person_n and_o of_o orderly_a succession_n therefore_o no_o contradiction_n the_o four_o it_o continue_v at_o that_o time_n in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o retain_v by_o succession_n that_o faith_n which_o it_o do_v first_o receive_v of_o the_o apostle_n pur._n 373._o 374._o contra_fw-la he_o charge_v it_o with_o sundry_a error_n here_o cap._n 3._o &_o 4_o namely_o p._n liberius_n with_o arianisme_n p._n innocentius_n for_o housle_v of_o insantes_n and_o eight_o pope_n for_o the_o supremacy_n i_o may_v answer_v that_o the_o charge_v of_o the_o pope_n 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church_n affirm_v your_o church_n to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o antichrist_n ar._n 85._o 16._o 106._o 10._o 27._o the_o latter_a part_n of_o this_o contradiction_n with_o as_o many_o falsification_n as_o there_o be_v quotation_n do_v sufficient_o declare_v that_o in_o all_o those_o place_n i_o speak_v of_o the_o popish_a church_n of_o rome_n that_o now_o be_v and_o not_o of_o the_o true_a church_n which_o of_o old_a time_n be_v at_o rome_n yet_o to_o give_v the_o reader_n a_o taste_n of_o his_o falsification_n of_o my_o word_n ar._n 106._o which_o he_o rehearse_v thus_o rome_n may_v be_v a_o nurse_n etc._n etc._n in_o truth_n they_o be_v these_o rome_n which_o feed_v her_o babe_n with_o poison_n of_o man_n tradition_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o milk_n of_o god_n word_n and_o will_v rather_o see_v they_o famish_v than_o they_o shall_v taste_v of_o god_n word_n may_v well_o be_v a_o nurse_n of_o antichristian_o but_o never_o do_v good_a unto_o christian_n the_o sixth_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v a_o puddle_n of_o all_o false_a doctrine_n and_o heresy_n whereof_o the_o whore_n bear_v a_o cup_n full_a out_o of_o which_o all_o nation_n have_v drink_v ar._n 102._o 38._o even_o from_o the_o apostle_n ●ime_v the_o devil_n never_o leave_v to_o set_v in_o his_o foot_n for_o his_o son_n antichristes_n dominion_n until_o he_o have_v place_v he_o in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o prepare_v the_o wide_a world_n for_o his_o walk_n and_o then_o come_v the_o general_a defection_n pur._n 287._o contra_fw-la all_o nation_n never_o consent_v to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o papist_n for_o it_o have_v be_v often_o say_v the_o greek_a church_n and_o all_z other_o oriental_a church_n of_o assa_n and_o africa_n never_o receive_v the_o popish_a religion_n in_o many_o chief_a point_n and_o special_o in_o acknowledge_v the_o pope_n authority_n they_o will_v not_o unto_o this_o day_n acknowledge_v her_o doctrine_n to_o be_v catholic_a nor_o her_o authority_n to_o be_v lawful_a ar._n 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bristol_n who_o ever_o say_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n prepare_v the_o way_n to_o antichrist_n i_o say_v ar._n 35._o many_o abuse_n enter_v into_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n immediate_o after_o the_o apostles_n time_n which_o the_o devil_n plant_v as_o a_o preparative_n for_o antichrist_n do_v i_o not_o here_o plain_o say_v the_o devil_n plant_v they_o as_o a_o preparative_n again_o ar._n 38._o i_o say_v the_o scripture_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n prepare_v for_o the_o general_a defection_n and_o revelation_n of_o antichrist_n wrought_v even_o in_o s._n paul_n tim_fw-la 〈…〉_o 2._o thessa._n 2._o first_o he_o quarrele_v that_o general_a be_v my_o wor●_n and_o not_o saint_n paul_n i_o confess_v but_o it_o be_v s._n paul_n m_o 〈…〉_o ning_a which_o speak_v not_o of_o a_o small_a or_o particular_a but_o 〈◊〉_d that_o great_a and_o general_a defection_n which_o in_o other_o pa_n 〈…〉_o of_o scripture_n be_v foreshow_v to_o be_v from_o christ_n unto_o 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christ_n come_v but_o let_v we_o examine_v his_o reason_n it_o be_v sin_n say_v he_o as_o soon_o as_o it_o be_v gendr_v but_o it_o gender_v not_o death_n so_o so_o one_o as_o it_o be_v gendr_v therefore_o some_o sin_n there_o be_v that_o gender_v notd_n eath_n the_o minor_a be_v false_a for_o saint_n james_n say_v that_o sin_n consummate_v gender_v death_n do_v not_o say_v that_o sin_n gender_v not_o death_n so_o soon_o as_o it_o be_v gendr_v but_o behold_v yet_o his_o impudent_a wrest_n of_o the_o scripture_n he_o add_v also_o a_o exception_n unto_o sin_n consummate_v that_o not_o every_o sin_n consummate_a gender_v death_n except_o the_o matter_n be_v of_o weight_n according_o for_o else_o that_o the_o lightness_n of_o the_o matter_n as_o a_o idle_a word_n bring_v not_o death_n he_o sufficient_o signify_v in_o say_v that_o in_o a_o weighty_a matter_n the_o lightness_n or_o imperfection_n of_o consent_n do_v it_o not_o these_o be_v his_o word_n by_o which_o you_o may_v see_v that_o 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bread_n from_o heaven_n but_o my_o father_n give_v you_o the_o true_a bread_n from_o heaven_n even_o he_o which_o give_v they_o manna_n for_o a_o sacrament_n of_o the_o true_a bread_n even_o he_o give_v then_o give_v now_o and_o shall_v give_v for_o ever_o the_o true_a bread_n from_o heaven_n which_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n incarnate_a crucify_a reviue_v and_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n for_o our_o salvation_n and_o how_o can_v saunder_n prove_v that_o christ_n say_v he_o will_v give_v his_o flesh_n mean_v any_o other_o gift_n than_o god_n his_o father_n do_v always_o give_v except_o he_o refer_v his_o give_v to_o the_o time_n of_o his_o passion_n the_o fruit_n whereof_o be_v and_o be_v give_v unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n that_o the_o bread_n which_o christ_n give_v be_v true_a under_o a_o figure_n that_o be_v the_o form_n of_o bread_n fulfil_v the_o figure_n of_o manna_n be_v a_o dream_n of_o sanders_n own_o head_n for_o christ_n speak_v not_o of_o any_o give_n under_o a_o figure_n or_o form_n of_o bread_n or_o of_o give_v the_o bread_n of_o his_o supper_n but_o of_o the_o general_a food_n of_o eternal_a life_n which_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o all_o they_o be_v partaker_n of_o which_o shall_v be_v partaker_n of_o eternal_a life_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v out_o of_o measure_n absurd_a that_o saunder_n will_v prove_v his_o figurative_a form_n by_o irenaeus_n which_o say_v that_o the_o eucharistie_n consist_v of_o two_o thing_n of_o one_o earthly_a which_o be_v the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n the_o other_o heavenly_a &c_n &c_n irenaeus_n say_v not_o that_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v the_o earthly_a part_n of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o deed_n for_o those_o external_a form_n or_o accident_n be_v not_o any_o earthly_a thing_n which_o be_v a_o substantial_a matter_n irenaeus_n say_v of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n our_o body_n be_v increase_v and_o nourish_v so_o can_v they_o not_o be_v of_o sanders_n accident_n lib._n 5._o but_o he_o will_v show_v the_o absurdity_n that_o rise_v of_o the_o sacramentary_n opinion_n if_o christ_n gift_n say_v he_o consist_v of_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n sanctify_v in_o quality_n and_o make_v a_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n as_o the_o sacramentary_n teach_v it_o shall_v neither_o be_v the_o true_a bread_n which_o his_o father_n give_v he_o nor_o better_a than_o manna_n &c_n &c_n but_o where_o do_v the_o sacramentary_n teach_v that_o christ_n gift_n speak_v of_o in_o this_o chapter_n be_v the_o substance_n of_o bread_n sanctify_v in_o quality_n etc._n etc._n we_o teach_v that_o christ_n gift_n be_v his_o own_o natural_a body_n and_o blood_n give_v in_o his_o passion_n to_o all_o the_o faithful_a of_o the_o world_n to_o be_v the_o food_n of_o eternal_a life_n as_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n give_v in_o his_o last_o supper_n we_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n and_o seal_n of_o this_o gift_n therefore_o he_o 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you_o take_v chalk_n for_o cheese_n we_o inquire_v of_o the_o be_v of_o his_o humanity_n whether_o it_o may_v be_v natural_o sit_v in_o heaven_n and_o here_o with_o us._n jewel_n saint_n augustine_n say_v after_o that_o christ_n be_v ascend_v he_o be_v in_o we_o by_o his_o spirit_n and_o s._n basil_n and_o again_o s._n augustine_n say_v the_o like_a in_o diverse_a place_n and_o christ_n speak_v in_o s._n paul_n etc._n etc._n saunder_n shall_v one_o truth_n always_o displace_v another_o with_o you_o these_o be_v sowter_n argument_n christ_n be_v god_n therefore_o he_o be_v not_o man_n he_o be_v in_o heaven_n ergo_fw-la he_o be_v not_o in_o earth_n etc._n etc._n fulke_n saint_n augustine_n by_o his_o ascension_n and_o presence_n by_o his_o spirit_n conclude_v the_o absence_n of_o his_o humanity_n from_o the_o earth_n ascendit_fw-la in_o coelum_fw-la &_o non_fw-la est_fw-la hîc_fw-la he_o have_v ascend_v into_o heaven_n and_o he_o be_v not_o here_o in_o joan._n tr._n 50._o this_o be_v no_o sowter_n argument_n except_o saint_n augustine_n be_v a_o sowter_n in_o fine_a master_n sanders_n dainty_a judgement_n jewel_n this_o conjunction_n be_v spiritual_a &_o therefore_o need_v not_o neither_o the_o circumstance_n of_o place_n nor_o corporal_a presence_n saunder_n the_o conjunction_n be_v spiritual_a but_o the_o manner_n of_o work_v it_o be_v bring_v to_o pass_v by_o the_o corporal_a substance_n of_o christ._n fulke_n the_o corporal_a substance_n need_v not_o to_o come_v unto_o we_o that_o a_o spiritual_a conjunction_n may_v be_v make_v between_o christ_n and_o we_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n be_v the_o only_a necessary_a mean_n to_o make_v a_o spiritual_a conjunction_n jewel_n the_o conjunction_n that_o be_v between_o christ_n &_o we_o neither_o do_v mingle_v person_n nor_o unite_v substance_n but_o it_o do_v knit_v our_o affect_n together_o and_o join_v our_o will_n say_v s._n cyprian_n saunder_n s._n cyprian_n
of_o christ._n jewel_n emissenus_fw-la say_v christ_n be_v present_a by_o his_o grace_n sand._n you_o have_v put_v a_o false_a nominative_a case_n it_o be_v victima_fw-la the_o oblation_n which_o be_v present_a in_o grace_n fulke_n and_o what_o be_v the_o substance_n of_o that_o eternal_a sacrifice_n but_o christ_n for_o the_o action_n you_o confess_v to_o be_v utter_o pass_v jewel_n saint_n augustine_n say_v christ_n be_v present_a in_o we_o by_o his_o spirit_n sand._n that_o be_v true_a when_o he_o be_v in_o we_o by_o his_o flesh_n fulk_n it_o be_v his_o spirit_n that_o make_v his_o flesh_n present_a to_o we_o after_o a_o wonderful_a manner_n jewel_n you_o shall_v not_o eat_v this_o body_n that_o you_o see_v it_o be_v a_o certain_a sacrament_n that_o i_o deliver_v you_o sand._n the_o word_n of_o s._n augustine_n be_v i_o have_v commend_v or_o set_v forth_o fulke_n to_o commend_v or_o set_v forth_o be_v to_o deliver_v in_o doctrine_n sand._n that_o which_o be_v commend_v at_o capernaum_n be_v only_o the_o same_o flesh_n which_o die_v for_o we_o therefore_o that_o flesh_n must_v be_v deliver_v not_o in_o a_o visible_a manner_n but_o yet_o in_o truth_n of_o give_v by_o body_n &_o take_v by_o body_n fulke_n that_o give_v and_o take_v by_o body_n saint_n au_o gustine_n deni_v in_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n you_o shall_v not_o eat_v this_o body_n that_o you_o see_v nor_o drink_v that_o blood_n which_o shall_v be_v shed_v it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n or_o mystery_n which_o i_o have_v commend_v unto_o you_o which_z being_z sp_z 〈…〉_o itual_o understand_v shall_v quicken_v you_o sand._n in_o deed_n m._n jewel_n christ_n deliver_v his_o flesh_n as_o well_o at_o capernaum_n as_o at_o his_o supper_n by_o your_o doctrine_n but_o not_o so_o by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n fulke_n the_o gospel_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d except_o you_o do_v eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n and_o do_v drink_v his_o blood_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o have_v not_o now_o life_n in_o you_o christ_n speak_v in_o the_o present_a temps_fw-fr but_o how_o can_v they_o eat_v his_o flesh_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n that_o they_o may_v have_v life_n except_o he_o do_v then_o deliver_v his_o flesh_n as_o well_o as_o at_o his_o supper_n for_o many_o of_o they_o may_v die_v before_o the_o institution_n of_o his_o supper_n again_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n he_o which_o do_v eat_v my_o flesh_n &_o which_o do_v drink_v my_o blood_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v now_o life_n everlasting_a and_o i_o will_v raise_v he_o up_o in_o the_o last_o day_n for_o my_o flesh_n be_v very_o meat_n &_o my_o blood_n be_v very_o drink_v how_o be_v it_o very_o meat_n and_o drink_v when_o he_o speak_v if_o no_o man_n may_v eat_v and_o drink_v it_o before_o his_o supper_n again_o he_o which_o do_v eat_v my_o flesh_n and_o which_o do_v drink_v my_o blood_n do_v abide_v in_o i_o and_o i_o in_o he_o how_o can_v this_o be_v verify_v in_o the_o present_a temps_fw-fr so_o often_o repete_v except_o christ_n do_v at_o that_o present_a time_n deliver_v his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n to_o be_v eat_v of_o all_o that_o believe_v and_o offer_v the_o same_o to_o all_o that_o hear_v he_o wherefore_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v agreeable_a to_o that_o which_o master_n jewel_n teach_v and_o direct_o contrary_a to_o master_n sanders_n doctrine_n that_o christ_n deliver_v not_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n to_o be_v eat_v &_o drunken_a before_o his_o supper_n but_o only_o promise_v they_o at_o capernaum_n jew._n thus_o the_o holy_a father_n say_v christ_n be_v present_a not_o corporal_o sand._n both_o s._n cyrill_n and_o s._n hilary_n have_v the_o word_n corporal_o concern_v the_o sacrament_n fulk_n but_o neither_o of_o both_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n corporal_o i_o 〈…〉_o not_o carnal_o s_o 〈…〉_o s._n hilary_n have_v the_o word_n carnal_o fulk_n you_o play_v mockeholiday_n s._n hilary_n say_v not_o that_o christ_n be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n carnal_o jew._n no_o 〈…〉_o rally_v sand._n s._n ●●larie_o have_v the_o term_n natural_o diverse_a time_n and_o s._n cyrill_n call_v it_o natural_a partake_n and_o natural_a union_n fulk_n neither_o the_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o ever_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n natural_o touch_v the_o natural_a participation_n and_o union_n it_o have_v be_v show_v how_o it_o may_v be_v without_o christ_n be_v present_a natural_o in_o the_o sacrament_n jew._n but_o as_o in_o a_o sacrament_n by_o his_o spirit_n &_o by_o his_o grace_n sand._n here_o appear_v what_o stuff_n you_o have_v feed_v the_o reader_n withal_o in_o your_o whole_a book_n for_o partly_o you_o deny_v a_o truth_n which_o be_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o corporal_o present_a against_o the_o express_a word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o father_n as_o i_o have_v show_v fulk_n and_o yet_o neither_o the_o express_a word_n of_o god_n nor_o any_o of_o the_o father_n have_v this_o sentence_n christ_n be_v corporal_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n or_o any_o thing_n equivalent_a to_o it_o sand._n partly_o you_o prove_v that_o your_o heresy_n by_o a_o other_o truth_n which_o rather_o establish_v than_o hinder_v the_o real_a presence_n for_o christ_n can_v be_v better_a present_a in_o spirit_n and_o grace_n then_o if_o he_o be_v present_a in_o his_o flesh_n fulk_n the_o presence_n of_o christ_n by_o his_o spirit_n and_o grace_n exclude_v your_o heresy_n of_o presence_n corporal_o and_o he_o be_v better_a present_n by_o spirit_n and_o grace_n whereby_o he_o tarry_v in_o we_o for_o ever_o then_o by_o your_o imagine_a presence_n of_o his_o body_n in_o which_o you_o confess_v he_o to_o tarry_v but_o a_o short_a time_n no_o not_o in_o they_o that_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n most_o worthy_o your_o conclusion_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n but_o a_o repetition_n of_o such_o cavil_n slander_n and_o rail_n as_o you_o have_v use_v throughout_o the_o book_n deserve_v no_o several_a answer_n partly_o because_o the_o great_a part_n of_o they_o be_v answer_v already_o and_o partly_o because_o both_o they_o and_o the_o rest_n contain_v nothing_o but_o general_a accusation_n without_o any_o special_a argument_n to_o prove_v they_o as_o for_o that_o you_o make_v boast_v that_o you_o have_v pr_v 〈…〉_o every_o one_o of_o your_o book_n whether_o i_o have_v a_o 〈…〉_o ough_o brief_o yet_o sufficient_o confute_v or_o no_o i_o commit_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o indifferent_a reader_n god_n be_v praise_v bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fuke_n bristol_n ●fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n f_o 〈…〉_o bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n ●ulk●_n bristol_n fulk●_n bristol_n ●●lke_v bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fu●ke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristo_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristow●_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristow●_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulk_n 〈…〉_o ambros._n de_fw-fr sacralib_n 1._o cap._n 1._o bristol_n fulke_n bristol_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n ●ulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n ser._n 6._o de_fw-la jei●_fw-la 7._o man_n saunder_n fulke_n esay_n 9_o saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n full_a 〈…〉_o saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_o saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_o saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n sande●_n fulke_o sand._n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulk_n cont._n dua●_n epist_n pel._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 4._o saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n 〈◊〉_d saunder_n f●lke_v saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulk_n sanden_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n saunder_n fulk_n sande_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n sande●_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n 3._o reg._n 17._o 3._o reg._n 19_o saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n 〈…〉_o der_fw-ge fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n ●ander_n ●ulk_n saunder_n fulke_n sande●_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulke_n saunder_n fulk_n saunder_n fulke_n
a_o signify_v mystery_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n be_v it_o be_v call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v to_o say_v it_o signify_v it_o the_o author_n of_o this_o gloss_n dare_v not_o have_v write_v thus_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v a_o opinion_n general_o receive_v that_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o proper_a but_o figurative_a three_o it_o be_v against_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v so_o make_v present_a as_o it_o shall_v enter_v not_o only_o into_o the_o mouth_n of_o wicked_a person_n as_o a_o dead_a body_n work_v no_o life_n but_o also_o into_o the_o belly_n of_o brute_n beast_n which_o be_v even_o horrible_a to_o name_n four_o it_o be_v not_o agreeable_a to_o the_o love_n of_o christ_n towards_o we_o in_o his_o second_o come_v that_o his_o body_n by_o such_o a_o presence_n shall_v be_v think_v to_o have_v lose_v all_o natural_a condition_n of_o a_o substantial_a body_n see_v the_o scripture_n put_v we_o in_o hope_n that_o our_o vile_a body_n shall_v be_v make_v confirmable_a at_o his_o come_n to_o his_o glorious_a body_n philip._n 3._o wherefore_o that_o heresy_n of_o carnal_a presence_n be_v contrary_a to_o our_o faith_n of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o our_o body_n five_o it_o be_v against_o the_o profit_n of_o christ_n church_n which_o by_o his_o ascension_n be_v draw_v upward_o into_o heaven_n from_o the_o earth_n but_o by_o this_o imagine_a presence_n be_v move_v to_o look_v down_o unto_o christ_n upon_o the_o earth_n col._n 3._o therefore_o in_o all_o these_o respect_n the_o exposition_n of_o the_o word_n must_v be_v figurative_a another_o reason_n saunder_n have_v that_o see_v all_o figure_n be_v invent_v either_o for_o lack_v of_o word_n or_o for_o pleasantness_n of_o speak_v and_o christ_n neither_o lack_v word_n nor_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v speak_v figurative_o only_o for_o his_o pleasure_n therefore_o he_o speak_v not_o figurative_o if_o there_o be_v no_o more_o cause_n of_o figurative_a speech_n than_o these_o two_o note_v by_o saunder_n than_o christ_n never_o use_v any_o figurative_a speech_n for_o he_o never_o want_v word_n to_o have_v speak_v proper_o that_o other_o man_n can_v speak_v proper_o neither_o can_v he_o be_v prove_v to_o have_v speak_v figurative_o only_o for_o his_o pleasure_n and_o least_o of_o all_o he_o affect_v the_o praise_n of_o eloquence_n but_o if_o it_o be_v out_o of_o question_n &_o saunder_n also_o confess_v that_o in_o other_o place_n christ_n speak_v figurative_o then_o be_v it_o out_o of_o question_n that_o this_o argument_n of_o saunder_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o pare_n of_o his_o nail_n for_o there_o be_v other_o cause_n of_o figurative_a speech_n than_o these_o two_o by_o he_o allege_v and_o especial_o the_o profit_n of_o the_o hearer_n who_o be_v more_o move_v and_o better_o understande_v often_o time_n by_o figurative_a then_o by_o proper_a speech_n and_o for_o this_o cause_n y●_z holy_a ghost_n speak_v of_o sacrament_n 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