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A27230 A brief discovery of some of the blasphemous and seditious principles and practices of the people called Quakers taken out of their most noted and approved authors, humbly offered to the consideration of the King and both houses of Parliament / by Edward Beckham ... Hen. Meriton ... Lancaster Topcliffe ..., Norfolk. Beckham, Edward, 1637 or 8-1714.; Meriton, Henry, d. 1707.; Topcliffe, Lancaster, 1646 or 7-1720. 1699 (1699) Wing B1652; ESTC R18109 27,538 34

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the Quakers that Saints were not to do Duties by or from a Command without but from a Command within and that the word Command in Scripture was not a Command to them till they had a Word within them He Answers ' That is no Command from God to me what he Commands to another neither did any of the Saints which we read of in Scripture act by the Command which was to another not having the Command to themselves And thou or any other who goest to Duty as you call it by imitation from the Letter without which was a Command to others in your own Wills and Time your Sacrifice is not Accepted but is Abomination to the Lord for you go without the moving of the Spirit in your own Wills and Strength which God Hates and which his Wrath is upon ' Agreeable to which William Penn in his Quakerism a new Nick Name c. Printed 1673. p. 71 72. Asserts ' No Command in the Scripture is any further Obliging upon any Man than as he finds a Conviction upon his Conscience otherwise Men should be ingaged without if not against Conviction a thing unreasonable in a Man So that Conviction can only Oblige to Obedience And when any Man is Convinced That what was Commanded another is Required of him then and not till then he is rightly Authorized to perform it ' And also assert That the Scriptures are No Rule A Shield of the Truth written from the Spirit of the Lord by Jam. Parnell Printed 1655. p. 11. ' He that saith the Letter is the Rule and Guide of the People of God is Without feeding upon the Husk and is Ignorant of the True Light ' Edw. Bur. p. 515. tells us ' That the Scriptures are not the Rule and Guide of Faith and Life unto the Saints but the Spirit of God that gave forth the Scriptures ' And further in a Testimony from the Brethren met together at London in the Third Month 1666. to be Communicated to the faithful Friends and Elders in the Countries by them to be read in their several Meetings and kept as a Testimony among them Signed by Rich. Farnsworth Alex. Parker George Whitehead and Eight more who by the Operation of the Spirit of Truth being brought into a Serious Consideration of this present State of the Church of God c. Declare in the Third Section ' If any Difference arise in the Church or amongst them that Profess themselves Members thereof we do Declare and Testifie That the Church with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ have Power without the Assent of such as Dissent from their Doctrines and Practices to Hear and Determine the same If any pretend to be of us and in Case of Controversie will not admit to be Tried by the Church of Christ Jesus nor submit to the Judgment given by the Spirit of Truth in the Elders and Members of the same but kick against their Judgment as only the Judgment of Man it being Manifested according to Truth and Consistent with the Doctrine of such Good Antient Friends as have been and are Sound in the Faith agreeable to the Witness of God in his People then we do Testifie in the Name of the Lord if that Judgment so given be Risen against and Denied by the Party Condemned then he or she ought to be Rejected as having Erred from the Truth and persisting therein Presumptuously are joined in one with Heathens and Insidels ' And pursuant to which Mr. Keith was Proceeded against in Pensylvania as guilty of Heresie not from the Scriptures as he desired but from Friends Books and was told by Sam. Jennings a great Teacher and Justice of Peace there in the Publick Meeting ' We are not to prove it from Scripture but from Friends Books for the Question between us and G. K. is not who is the best Christian but the best Quaker ' And accordingly they produced instead of Scripture a Citation out of William Penn's Christian Quaker to prove him a Heretick See G. K's Heresie and Hatred Printed at Philadelphia 1693. 6. They assert that Christ's Flesh is a Figure Saul's Errand to Damascus p. 14. The Question was put to Geo. Fox Whether Christ in the Flesh be a Figure or not and if a Figure How and in What To which he Answers Christ is the Substance of all Figures and his Flesh is a Figure And in Truth defending the Quakers by G. Whitehead c. p. 20. It is said expresly That Christ's coming in the Flesh is but a Figure And that Christ was Crucified within us and any other was Anti-Christ G. F. Gr. Myst p. 206. ' The Apostles Preached Christ that was Crucified within and not another him that was Raised up from the Dead was Risen that Lord Jesus Christ within It was he that was manifest in the Saints that was and is not another FOR THE OTHER IS THE ANTI-CHRIST Now I say if there be any other Christ but HE THAT WAS CRUCIFIED WITHIN HE IS THE FALSE CHRIST And he that hath not this Christ that was Risen and Crucified within is a Reprobate the Devils and Reprobates may make a talk of him without ' 7. They Vilifie and Deny the Sacraments viz. Baptism by Water and the Lord's Supper by Bread and Wine G. F. News coming up c. p. 14. ' Your Baptism is Carnal And their Sacrament as they call it is Carnal And their Communion is Carnal a little Bread and Wine ' And p. 34. 'A Voice and a Word to all you Deceivers who deceive the People and Blasphemers who utter forth your Blasphemy and Hypocrisie that tell People of a Sacrament and tell them it is the Ordinance of God Blush Blush and Tremble before the Almighty for Dreadful is he that will pour forth his Vengeance upon you ' Smith's Primer Printed 1668. p. 6. ' I would know Father saith the Child how it is concerning those things called Ordinances as Baptism and Bread and Wine which are much used in their Worship The Father Answers Why Child as to those things they arose from the Pope's Invention who hath had Power in the Night of Apostacy And hath set up his Devices which are yet continued in England tho' he seeming'y is denied And the whole practice of those things as they use them had their INSTITUTION BY THE POPE and were never so Ordain'd of Christ ' William Penn's Reason against Railing Printed 1673. p. 108 109. ' I affirm by that one Scripture Hebr. 9.10 that Circumcision is as much in force as Water-Baptism and the Paschal-Lamb as Bread and wine they were both Shadows and both Elementary and Perishable For a Continuance of them had been a Judaizing of the Spiritual Evangelical Worship the Gospel would have been a State of Figures Types and Shadows And we can Testifie from the same Spirit by which Paul renounced Circumcision that they are to be rejected as not now required Neither have they since the False Church Espoused
hold according to Scripture ' Now for your Friends at West Dereham to avoid the force of these Arguments when urged as a Reason for you to defend your selves from the Charge the Clergy exhibited against you pursuant to your Challenge as that they were written 25 or 30 Years since this could be no Argument since you pretend to write from the Mouth of the Lord moved thereto by the Holy Ghost And as such of greater Authority than the Bible for the Writings of Moses and the Prophets Christ and the Apostles are much older yet still of Force But this your Shuffle shew'd the Justices of Peace the Gentry and Clergy as well as the Protestant Dissenters that your Principles are so destructive to common Christianity as that they did not dare to stand the Test and this yea ONLY this so far as I know put them upon a Petition to the Honourable House of Commons to do that for God and the Christian Religion which they could not do namely to examine your Principles and censure your Errors as to their Wisdom should see meet And in this they both Church of England-Men and Protestant Dissenters are Unanimous and this disturbs you this perplexes you and for this your Tool John Field call and compare them to Herod and Pilate Hamon and Judas And say Field Do not blame till you examine I tell you they have examined and therefore blame and they find your Blasphemies so Great so Apparent and Manifest that they also desire their Superiors to examine and when they have so done no doubt but they 'll blame and censure your Errors And this starties you this makes you look about you and cry Persecution Persecution when no Body designs it nay no Body desires it for that 's the Way to encrease you who are for Boldness like a Flint Stone which lay it on a Table and smite it with a Hammer and it will abide Obdurate but lay it on a soft Cusheon and a little Stroke will make it fly into many ●…hivers And though none solicite against your having the same Liberty that other Dissenters have yet I must say there is not the same Reason for you to expect it For when the Baptists in your dear Friend Oliver Cromwell's time had said They thought it their Duty to preserve them i. e. Bishops and Clergy from all Violence your Teachers Assau●ted them from all Quarters even for so much as Tenderness towards the Bishops as to preserve their Persons from Violence and Injuries much more for thinking of granting them any Toleration Edward Burroughs your great Prophet and Primitive Pillar wrote a Tract on purpose against this Declaration of the Baptists and says 〈◊〉 them P. 618. of his Works as Reprinted 1672 What! Are you about to make a League and Covenant with Antichrist Do you look upon them to be Ministers of Christ or of Antichrist And P. 619. What are you now for Tolerating Episcopacy And if Episcopacy why may not Popery be tolerated seeing they are one and the same in Ground and Nature c. He was seconded by another of your Teachers of great Name amongst you viz Richard Hubberthorne in his Works Reprinted 1663. who also attacked this Declaration of the Baptists P. 229 of his Works saying Why will you not tolerate Popery as well as Episcopacy Have not the Professors of Episcopacy murthered and slain and do labour to murther and slay the People of God as well as the Papists And will you tolerate the Common Prayer among the Episcopacy and not the Mass Book among the Papists seeing that the Mass was the Substance out of which the Common Prayer was extracted c. And much more to the same purpose in these and others of your Early Writers which shew sufficiently your Antient Principles and you tell us they are now no other than what they were when you were first a People as in my Books I have more largely set forth which may be had at Mr. Kettleby's at the Bishops-Head in St. Paul's Church-yard And for the Truth of my Quotations I am ready to justifie under the greatest Penalties my Superiors shall think fit to assign and for my Arguments every Man is left to his Judgment of Discretion as I desire my self and this may serve in Answer to all your Clamours and what I have yet to say you 'll see in my next which is ready for the Press which is a Proof of my own Charge against you at West-Dereham Church in Norfolk the 9th of December last Where not only the Quakers were forced to confess the Truth of my Quotations but four Clergymen of known Reputation have under their Hands certified the same As to your scattering your Books both in the Church and the Country round it is in Obedience to G. Fox's Doctrine and Example in his Book The Vials of the Wrath of God c. Printed 1655 P. 2. This Book is to be scattered among the Ignorant Simple and Blind People c. I am satisfied your Ancient Testimony was design'd to bring the Clergy to a Morsel of Bread but hitherto you have been disappointed For says G. Fox in his Paper concerning Poets c. P. 8. But I shall tell you the Scholars of Oxford and Cambridge It would be more pleasing to God for you to get a Spade on your Backs and a great old Glove and a Bill in your Hand and stop Gaps and make up old Hedges and thresh out Corn and go amongst Day labouring Men for 3 d. a Day c. And indeed if it be as Burrough's their great Prophet said in the recited Trial and Condemnation of the Clergy in his Works P. 223 227 234 viz. That they Agree and Concur with all the false Prophets and Deceivers in former Ages that they are Ministers of Antichrist and for which all honest People have left them yet have 1500000 l. a Year for their Antichristian Service as his Antient Testimony sets forth Printed 1655. and Reprinted by the Approbation of Geo. Whitehead c. 1672. then indeed 3 d. a Day is enough nay too much But that this Antient Testimony from which they say they do not deviate might be renewed and kept fresh in Memory W. Penn in his Guide mistaken c. Printed 1668. P. 18. saith Whiist the idle Germandizing Priests of England run away with above 1500000 l. a Year under Pretence of being God's Ministers and that no sort of People have been so universal●y through Ages the very Bane of Soul and Body to the Universe a● that Abominable Tribe for whom the Theatre of God's most Dreadful Vengeance is reserved to act their Eternal Tragedy upon c. And if so it 's time for them to get a Bill a great Glove mend Gaps and Thresh for 3 d. a Day as their Apostle Fox prescrib'd But J. Feild in his Book An Apology for the Quakers and an Appeal to the Inhabitants of Norfolk and Suffolk c. P. 9. 1 st Would the Clergymen account it
given to the Priests be given to the Poor And let all the great Houses Abbies Steeple-Houses and Whitehall be for Alms-Houses for all the Blind and Lame to be there ' c. And they are of the same Principles still they tell you so as in the Conclusion you will see it proved from their late Writings Again in their Book stiled These several Papers sent to the Parliament the Twentieth of the Fifth Month 1659. Inscrib'd by above Seven Thousand Quakers there is these Passages p. 63. ' Sell all the Gleab-Lands and the Bells except One in a Town or Two in a City to give Notice of Fire And all the late King's Parks and his Rents and the Abbies and deny your selves of his i. e. King 's Parks Houses and Rents So let them be sold and the Colledges sold For we Declare with our Hands and with our Lives and Estates against the Ministry that take Tythes and the Setters of them up and the first Authors of them and the Laws that Upholds them ' c. And they are the same still they have not Deviated from their Old Principles as they themselves say only they think it Prudent otherwise to word the Matter as afterwards you 'l hear And House of Commons Geo. Fox Junior in his Works Reprinted 1665. p. 87 88. Intitles his Epistle ' A few Plain Words to be Considered by those of the Army or others that would have a Parliament Chosen by the Voices of the People c. Wheren is shewed unto them according to the Scriptures of Truth That a Parliament so Chosen are not like to govern for God or the good of his People Consider these things says he which I Declare unto you which in waiting upon the Lord he by his Spirit of Wisdom and Understanding Opened in me concerning the Chusing of Parliaments by the Voices of the People ' And p. 89. he says ' You are not like to see your desires fulfilled by a Parliament Chosen by the Voices of the People Now if you believe these Scriptures Joh. 15.19 Math. 7.13 Rom. 9.27 then may you see That a Parliament that is Chosen by most Voices are not like to act for God and the good of his People ' And p. 91. ' And likewise the Chusing of Parliament Men according to the Custom of England which is called its Birth-right stands in respect of Persons and not in Equality for the Rich Covetous Oppressing Men who Oppress the Poor they have the only Power to Chuse Law-makers and they will Chuse to be sure such as will uphold them in their Oppression ' And p. 92 93. ' And we see the People have been in great Blindness in contending for Parliaments so Chosen ' Pag. 149. ' Again it is God's proper right to give Laws unto Man Now in this particular also Man have set himself in the Seat of God and so have Dishonoured the one Law-giver by setting up many Law-givers ' Pag. 150. ' Now Mark and Consider these things seeing that the Righteous are fewer in Number than the Unrighteous and that the Law-makers are Chosen by the most Voices and that of the Richest People outwardly how are the Righteous like to be preserved in outward Freedom by the Laws that are so made ' Pag. 159. ' And I must deal plainly with you saith he in the sight of God who hath made me a PROPHET TO THIS NATION ' Again Edw. Burroughs in his Works p. 522. 'A Running to the Powers of the Earth What have you Ministers lost the Lord to be your Strength that you must flee for help to Men Must they make Laws to Establish you and Set you Up Is not this the Whore that Rode upon the Beast and that the Beast Carried ' Again p. 524. to the Parliament thus viz. ' You do but cause people to drink of the Whores Cup and you are but them i. e. Beast which Carry the Whore viz. the False Church And this is plain dealing to tell you the Truth for we are Gathered up into the Life which the Holy Men of God Lived in and are fallen from the World and its Ways and Nature ' p. 50. ' For even the FATHER bears Witness of us and therefore our Witness is True ' Against Judges Justices and Constables News coming up c. Geo. Fox p. 18. ' Dreadful is the Lord and Powerful who is coming in his Power to Execute true Judgment upon all you Judges and to Change all your Laws ye Kings and all you Rulers must down and cease And all you Underling-Officers which have been as the Arms of this great Tree which the Fowls have lodged under All your Branches must be CUT down for you have been all the Fruitless Branches grown on the Fruitless Tree ' Pag. 20. ' Sing all ye Saints and Rejoice Clap your Hands and be Glad for the Lord Jehovah will Reign and the Government shall be taken from you pretended Rulers Judges and Justices Lawyers and Constables all this Tree must be Cut down and Jesus Christ in us will Rule alone So you must be Cut down with the same Power ' p. 19. ' that Cut down the King that Reigned over the Nation ' And in Edw. Bur. Works Printed 1659. and Reprinted in 1672. and Recommended by the same Geo. Fox Fran. Howgil Geo. Whitehead Jos Coale c. p. 501. he saith ' We stand Witnesses against Parliaments Councils Judges Justices who Make or Execute Laws in their Will over the Consciences of Men or Punish for Conscience sake And to such Laws Customs Courts or Arbitrary Usurped Dominion WE cannot yield OUR Obedience ' c. Against Lawyers Again Geo. Fox to the Parliament of the Common-Wealth of England c. saith p. 5. ' Away with Capmen and Coifmen as they are called away with all those Counsellers that will not tell Men the Law without Ten Shillings Twenty Shillings or Thirty Shillings And away with those Lawyers Twenty Shillings Counsellers Thirty Shillings Serjeants Ten-Groats Attorneys ' Against Lords of Manours Again p. 8. ibid. ' Let all those Fines that belong to Lords of Manours be given to Poor People for Lords have enough ' 10. Which Government that they might not Support they Declare against the Use of the Carnal Weapon in 1660. A Declaration from the People of God called Quakers against all Plotters and Fighters c. presented to King Charles II. 1660. ' All Bloody Principles and Practices We as to our own Particulars do utterly Deny with all outward WARS and Strife and Fightings with outward WEAPONS for any end or under any pretence whatsoever And this is our Testimony to the whole World And we do certainly Know and so Testisie to the World that the Spirit of Christ which leads us into all Truth will never move us to Fight and WAR against any Man with outward Weapons either for the Kingdom of Christ nor for the Kingdom of this World ' c. Subscribed by Geo. Fox Sam.