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A35131 Rebellion rebuked in an answer to a scandalous pamphlet entitled The Quaker converted to Christianity &c. written by one William Haworth ... and William Dimsdale ... / by John Crook, William Bayly. Crook, John, 1617-1699.; Bayly, William, d. 1675.; Crisp, Stephen, 1628-1692.; Stout, Mary, 17th cent. 1673 (1673) Wing C7212; ESTC R27638 40,731 115

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Young-man did not knowing he Offended God c. 2dly Whether it be the Quakers Way Faith Spirit and Principle to Assent to things without Ground or are they of that Frame of Spirit to be ready to assent to every thing another of them doth whether they have Ground for it or not as this Young-man was 4thly And whether it be the Quakers Way Faith Spirit and Principle to say You to a Single Person and to call Men Master as this Young-man did who confesseth He could not agree with them in all things So take notice what the things are he did dislike and could not agree with them in which kept him back as he hath said And now see if he were fully of the Quakers Way Faith Spirit and Principle and went fa●ther then most of them towards that they call Perfection as W. H. hath affirmed and published to his own Shame who is so blind through his Envy that he did not see the same Young-man giving him the Lye in several places in the aforesaid Pamphlet to which he wrote the Epistle And how may the whole Nation of England and many in other Countries and such as have been their Persecutors give this Envious Man the Lye and rebuke him for his Folly and Wickedness who hath made such Notorious Lyes and Slanders against an Innocent Suffering People as will more appear in what followeth It is well known to many yet living what a Stir and Stumbling there was about their Meeting in Silence their Keeping on their Hats and Speaking plain Language without Respect of Persons according to the Scriptures of Truth denying their former needle●s Words and vain Complements being come to know a Bridle to their Tongues Iam. 1. 26. and their Salvation wrought out with Fear and Trembling which was a strange Work and Wonder to Professor and Prophane though plentifully testified of in the Scriptures which they call their Rule but know them not as is manifest And what Great and Cruel Sufferings did many of them sustain because of their Faithfulness to God in these things which were Contemptible in the Eyes of the Wise and Prudent Men of this VVorld who scornfully reproached them by the Name Quaker because they were such as Trembled at the VVord of the Lord Isa 66. Now these are the things that kept this Young-man back which he did not like nor find Ground in himself to do them as he hath said But the Quak●rs do still find Ground in the Truth to do what the Lord requireth and their Way Faith Spirit and Principle is the same and not changed Now wherein this Young-man was fully of their Way Faith Spirit and Principl● who knows And wherein his Perfection did consist no Body knows except in perfectly denying the Truth and Power of God and fleeing the Cross with W. H. who also did stumble at the same St●mbling Stone which became as a Rock of Offence unto him as the Witne●s of God in him shall shortly bring to his Remembrance though at present his Pride and Envy hath blinded him and hath made Lyes his Refuge to Oppose and Villifie the People of the Lord. For this Young-man hath sufficiently confessed his Ignorance concerning the Work and Way of the Lord who did dislike and stumble at Silent Meetings which the Quakers do not dislike but do prize as a Means through which they came to know the Lord and his Salvation as their Brethren did in Ages past who waited for him in the Way of his Judgments Isa 26. 8. as may be plentifully seen in the Scriptures of Truth where the Lord commanded Silence and Stilness c. of which I may mention something at present for the sake of the Ignorant as Isa 41. Keep Silence before me O Islands and let the People renew their Strength let them come near then let them speak But this is hid from the vultures Eye and from all who Disobey the Light which they be lighted withal And Ezek. 2. 13. Be Silent O all Flesh before the Lord c. And Hab. 2. 20. But the Lord is in his Holy Temple let all the Earth keep Silence before him Hear this ye Earthly-minded who use your Tongues and the Lord never sent you And there was Silence in Heaven Rev. 8. But this is out of your Reach who cry Revelations are Ceased Be Still and know that I am God c. Psal 46. Tremble and Sin not Examine your own Hearts and be Still Psal 4. Therefore will I wait upon the Lord Isa 8. But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their Strength Chap. 40. 31. And Christ Jesus the Lord bid his Disciples wait till they were indued with Power or Strength from on High Much more might be mentioned but this may serve to let you see your Ignorance of the Work and Way of the Lord among his People who did not dislike nor stumble at such things as you do For he that loveth his Brother abideth in the Light and there is no Occasion of Stumbling in him 1 John 2. 10. So here ye may read and see the Cause and Ground of your disliking and stumbling at these things which the Holy Men of God were acquainted with in all Ages And what was the Cause why the Name Q●●k●r was first given this People in Reproach at that day But only for witnessing the States and Conditions of the Holy Men of God recorded in the Scriptures of Truth whose Salvation was wrought out with Fear and Trembling who would have been called Qu●k●rs had they been in your dayes of which much mi●ht be spoken So this Young-man W. H. cryes up for such a Perfect Quaker is so far from being such a one that he is ignorant of those things and dislikes them for which that Name was given them as he confessed the same to me and could not own that Refuge of Lyes W. H. hath made concerning him And I do not understand from his Master or any in Hartford that he was ever Ten Times at the Quakers Meetings but went sometimes as other Boyes did as he hath said and may be further seen in that Account from Hartford here inserted So let the Reader observe and take notice what a thing of nought or rather Scandalous Lyes which W. H. hath heaped up he re●oyces in and makes his vain Oration and Boast of as in his Epistle And see some of this poor be●●●der'd Lad's C●ntradictions and Confusions in speaking about the Light wherein he hath shewed his Weakness and Blindness ●nd not his Perfection nor Ability to engage any Quaker ●● ●word as W. H. hath foolishly boasted like a Foolish Child of a Feather or like a Distracted Man that fights with the Air. Now here are some of the Young-man's own words as he hath set them down in the aforesaid Pamphlet by way of Question and Answer In pag. 15. Quest Was that Light by which I was convinced of Sin and by Obedience thereunto thought I should be brought into the Image of
which more may be written by another Hand towards the End of this Book as also a further Account from Hartford where he dwells concerning him which I would have the Reader take good notice of And in that he saith The Light by which the Heathens did the things contained in the Law Rom. 2. which shewed the Work of the Law written in their hearts is not the Light of the Spirit of Christ he is found a Denyer of the Scriptures John 1. 9. and Tit. 2. For if every Man that cometh into the World be lighted with the Light of Christ then the Heathens and all other Men were lighted And if the Grace of God which brings Salvation hath appeared to all Men then it appeared to the Heathens for they were Men and came into the World And herein W. D. thou contradicts thy Companion and great Adorer of thee W. H. who calls it the Deity Godhead as aforesaid and the Godhead is the same Spirit or Life and Light which was in Christ Jesus as it is written Col. 2. 9. which is Grace and Truth John 1. 16. 17. So then it was the Light Spirit Grace and Truth which was in Christ Jesus That appeared to the Barbarous or Heathen People by his Confession And so now let this Tree be judged of by its Fruits according to the Young man 's own Saying and let us see what kind of Fruits it bears for I have read That Men do not gather Grapes of Thorns nor Figs of Thistles and that A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fruit Mat. 7. Luke 6. 43 44. So by this true Rule let all who reads and tastes of these Fruits judge of this Tree the Light First pag. 7. It assented to the Words of Christ and his Apostles 2dly It Convinced him of Sin and Reproved him and called to him when he was going or thinking to Steal and it kept him from obeying that Temptation about the Herrings though he loved them and had a brave Oportunity to steal or slip one into his Pocket 3dly It caused him to be of Few Words and kept him from Lying or telling of Lyes 4thly It delivered him from Sinning outwardly and from doing any Wrong to his Neighbour 5thly It gave him Strength or Power to do that which was Good Just and Right in the Sight of God and Man 6thly It convinced him of one Sin or Evil one day and delivered him from it and another day another Evil and he had Power over it 7thly He had Joy Peace Quietness of Spirit and Comfort in Obedience to it Reply Now whence or from what kind of Tree cometh these Blessed Fruits and Effects if not from the Tree of Life Or who is the Author of or from what Spirit comes this Light if it be not the Light of Christ Jesus Is it not the Spirit of Truth that convinceth of Sin and keeps from Lying and Stealing and wronging of Neighbours and leads into all Truth to do that which is Good and Just and Right in the Sight of God and Man And was not that their Comforter who were lead and guided by it Did it not give them Joy and Peace and Comfort when they were obedient to it Read and understand Or who gives Peace to his People besides him And is it not the same Grace of God which Paul declared of Tit. 2. which taught them to deny all Ungodliness and Worldly Lusts and to live Soberly and Righteously Then did it not teach them to deny Lying and Stealing and Wronging their Neighbours and to do as they would be done by according to Christ's Doctrine Or is there any other Spirit or Light which can deliver from Sin and give Power over it but what is of Christ Jesus Is it not written of him That there is no other Name under Heaven by which Men can be saved or delivered And is he not called the Deliverer and Counseller who is the true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the World Read the Scriptures and consider these things Acts 4. Isa 59. John 1. 9 Is it not the Light of Christ that makes Sin manifest Eph. 5. And doth not the Apostle say in that same place vers 8 9. The Fruit of the Spirit is in all Goodness Righteousness and Truth So judge of this Tree by its Fruits if it be not all Goodness Righteousness and Truth which it brings forth And doth not W. H. say It is the Spirit that maketh known Sin which is not seen before Mark Then whensoever any one seeth Sin it is the Spirit that makes it known for it is not seen before And that it was the Godhead in which the Barbarous People saw c. Acts 28. And yet how Enviously he Clamours against the Quakers in his confused dark Mind calling their Spirit Delusion and their Doctrine Antichristian like the Foolish Clamerous-tongued Woman Solomon speaks of whose Feet are without pulling down her own House How do you think your Babel will now stand when ye thus throw up and pull down your own Work and Revile us for the same Truth you acknowledge in Words like the Hypocrites of old who said They had one Father even God and yet called Christ Jesus Deceiver and Blasphemer and judged him worthy of Death because he acknowledged himself to be the Son of God who was truly so John 19. 7. So read your Spirit and Way which is not like Christ Within nor Without though thou sayest you have both but the contrary appears in thee And ye are more like the Mad-Man Prov. 26. who cast Fire-brands Arrows and Death at you know not what comparing the Light of Christ to Pharoah or Egypt and Light of Nature Contemning and Undervaluing it as if it were not of God but what ye know not like the Jews one while A Good Man and then Nay but he Deceiveth the people So you one while it s the Deity and then Nay it s Not the Light of the Spirit of Christ but the Light of Nature Thus are you confounded about that which delivers from Sin and Temptations from Lying Stealing and doing Wrong and keeps out of Evil and gives Power over it and convinceth of Sin and reproveth for Sin and which gives Strength to do that which is Good Just and Right in the Sight of God and Man and Joy and Peace in it Take heed of the Sin against the Holy Ghost for it is near when that which casts out Devils is called Belzebub Your Reproaching of us is little to us but beware how you sport your selves with a Consuming Fire and be you Warned in time for your own Souls sake And consider your Confusion and Darkness Whether the Lord requireth Obedience Service or Worship to any other Light or Spirit of Christians but his own or what Tree or Plant would the Heavenly Father have to grow but what is of his own planting as it is written Every Plant which my Heavenly Father hath
all Arm-Holes The Lord is against you and he will break down your Wall and rent your Pillows from you as in dayes past Ezek. 13. who have turned away your Ears from the Truth Christ Jesus the true Light which lighteth every Man that cometh into the VVorld and cause the People to Err by your Lyes and by your Lightness like your Brethren the False Prophets of old Was there ever such a Doctrine preached by any of the Holy Men of God as this since the beginning of the World Search the Scriptures and see which you call your Rule where ever they preached That the Faith that justified them and their Salvation was wrought out by a Righteousness or Person wholy without them as you do Did they not say Their Faith workt by Love and purified their Hearts Acts 15. 9. And that the Righteousness of the Law was fulfilled In them who walkt not after the Flesh but after the Spirit Rom. 8. 4. And that the Anointing was In them and was their Teacher and that it was Truth and no Lye And is not Christ the Truth who lighteth every Man And was not he their Righteousness Sanctification and Redemption And much more might be declared of their Testimony how their Salvation was wrought out with Fear and Trembling and that it was God that workt in them to Will and to Do of his own Good Pleasure And yet again thou W. H. saith in thy foresaid Epistle viz. Jesus Christ is amongst us we eat his Flesh and drink his Blood he dwelleth in us and we in him we have both Christ Within and Without we have both Word and Spirit and so we have the better of them that divide these Now if Jesus Christ dwelleth IN you as you say doth not the Saviour dwell in you And if you eat and drink his Flesh and Blood is it not then IN you O William Haworth Dost thou not yet see thy Darkness thy Confusion Contradictions and False Doctrine Hath thy Envy so far blinded thee to cry one while wholely without you and then again he dwelleth in you How will this hold together in the Day of thy Account which hastens And then thou sayest in thy Epistle pag. 9. viz. Our own Righteousness is within us inhering in our Souls it confists in those Vertues and Gifts that the Spirit of God works in our Minds And pag. 10. calls it The Righteousness of meer Man So then the Gifts and Vertues the Spirit of God works in our Minds is but of meer Man by thy Account and as Filthy Rags for so said the Prophet concerning their own Righteousness Isa 64. 6. Would not this be Blasphemy to call the Gifts and Vertues that the Spirit of God works in our Minds Filthy Rags Consider it And would not this be Madness and Folly for Paul to say I count all Loss and Dung that I may win Christ and that I may be found in him not having those Gifts and Vertues which the Spirit of God's work in my Mind Oh Heap of Confusion how hath thy Envy and Pride blinded and befooled thee And then in page 11. thou sayst viz. The Quaker goes about to make his own Righteousness to stand Yes and blame him not if it consists in those Gifts and Vertues that the Spirit of God works in his Mind as thou sayst it doth how is any one a true Christian without these O Will. Haworth How is the wise foolish man taken in his own Envy and Craftiness against the poor honest Quaker The Lord hath found thee out and rebuked thy Madness thou back-sliding treacherous Man And thou art even proclaiming thy Folly like Jannes and Jambres who withstood Moses which is now made manifest And be it known to thee and all the World that the Quaker owns no other Righteousness to be justified by but the Righteousness of Jesus Christ the Righteousness which is of God by Faith in him according to the Scriptures of Truth nor no other Name under Heaven by which Men can be saved whatever any of you dream of them and yet they desire those Gifts and Vertues the Spirit of God works in their Minds may stand and be increased according to that good Exhortation 2 Pet. 1. 5. Add to your Faith Vertue and to Vertue Knowledge and to Knowledge Temperance c. for he that lacketh these things is blind c. Had not Gamaliel more Wisdom Patience and Understanding then thee and thy Companion in this Work who said If the Work were of God it would stand and they could not overthrow it And you call the Work of God the Righteousness of meer Man and say its rotten and must fall as in the last page of your Book Who is Anti-christ now W. H. the Quaker or thee Read 1 Joh. 4. 2 3 4. and consider your Babel where God is confounding your Language and the Language of all the Earth whole Weapons shall not prosper against his Truth and People but he will condemn every Tongue that rises up against them as he hath thine And why dost thou call the Quakers Spirit a Spirit of Delusion and say their Doctrine is Anti-christian in diametrical Opposition to the Doctrine delivered by the Apostles of Jesus Christ which Way wilt thou go about to prove this false envious Charge against us thou canst never prove it while thou livest but it shall turn upon thy own slandering Head for we can prove our Doctrine to be parrellel with the Doctrine of the Apostles and of Christ himself by the Scriptures of Truth and we are made manifest in mens Consciences as the true Ministers of the Gospel were and we witness that in Truth which thou hast stole the Words of for we do eat the Flesh of the Son of Man and drink his Blood c. which didst thou really witness thou wou●dst have Fellowship with us and not revile and belie us as thou dost But whose Doctrine is yours like think you who cry wholy without and the Devil had Cards to p●ay against Satisfaction from wholy without for all your Sins past present and to come and that the Father hath poured forth all his Wrath upon his Son Jesus Christ Oh ye Blasphemers who blaspheme God and his Tabernacle and them that dwell in Heaven for I testifie for God ye call his true and faithful Witness in you the Devil and the Hour is coming in which you shall feel his heavy Stroaks for these things and he will play you such Cards as you call them as all your Skill Wit and Strength will not be able to prevail against and then your false Hope Joy and Peace will perish It s the Word of the Lord God unto you all who deny his pure Light wherewith he hath lighted you and call his Gifts and Vertues but of meer Man And then you shall know there is Wrath left enough to punish the Hypocrite Lyar and Slanderer and that God is angry with the wicked every Day Psal 7. And thou W. H. ●ayst
so was not suoh a Perfect Quaker as W. H. hath said but stumbled at the very Door and VVay by which the Quakers came to know God and Jesus Christ whom he hath sent which is Life Eternal John 17. 3. as I have before shewed And so William Haworth's great Joy Refreshment and Boast of the Quaker Converted is founded upon a Lye which is of the Devil the Father of Lyes which he hath made his Refuge and Bulwork against the Truth and them that walk in it and that he might privily shoot his Arrows at the upright in Heart the Children of Light whom he calls Seducers Anti-christian in whom Satan is transform'd into an Angel of Light with many other envious rayling speeches for which the Lord will judge him But the Children of Light are out of his reach and of all such who in their dark Envy and vain Imaginations seek to devour them and as they abide in the Truth they are in that the Devil is out of and he hath no Power over them and they are armed with the whole Armour of Light against all the fiery Darts of the Wicked Everlasting Praises be to him that sits upon the Throne and to the Lamb forever who is getting the Victory over the Beast and his Image the Dragon and his Floods Whore and False Prophet And Great Babylon is sinking like a Mlll-stone whose Harpers Voice shall be heard no more at all and the Voice of her grinding Mill shall be heard no more at all Glory in the Highest The Day is come in which no Man will buy her Ware any more her Merchants are Howling and Gnawing their Tongues for Pain for strong is the Lord that judgeth Her And God is Confounding this Great City and setting up his Holy City upon a Hill which cannot be hid whose Light is like a Jasper clear as Chrystal And without are Dogs and all Lyars and whatsoever worke●h Abomi●ation and maketh a Lye And her True Light is shining and the Glory of God is arising more and more which shall shake terribly the Earth and the Inhabitants thereof amongst whom the Devil is come down in great Rage knowing he hath but a short time Rejoyce ye Children of the Lord and lift up your Heads all ye Upright in Heart Rejoyce ye Heavens and ye that dwell in the Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus and Praise your God forever whose Power is come whose Glory shines whose Dominion is witnessed over Death and Hell and the Gates of it whose Dreadful Presence is now again known which the Worker of Iniquity cannot endure The Eye-lids of the Morning are unto them as the Shadow of Death Every one that doth Evil hates the Light neither cometh to it lest their Deeds should be reproved This is the Ground of their Vexation and Rage against the Pure Appearance of the Lord But Arise O God more and more and let the Sea Roar and the Waters be Troubled bring forth thy Glorious Work already begun in the Earth and rent thou the Vail of thick Darkness from Top to Bottom which is yet spread over People and Nations that the Graves may be opened and the Dead may here thy Voice and arise and come forth to Judgment let thy Dread fall upon the Heathen round about to awaken them and Exalt thy Everlasting Truth and Name over all the Powers of Darkness that many may be gathered into thy Heavenly Kingdom of Righteousness and Peace that the Poor among Men may Rejoyce and the Meek increase their Joy in t●ee who art the Strength of thy People in all Ages who never failed them that put their whole trust in thee To whom be Everlasting Praises Glory and Thanksgiving from all that know thy Name God over all Heaven and Earth blessed forever and ever Halelujah And now Will. Haworth I would put thee in Remembrance once more to consider this thy Work and the Ground of thy Rage against the Lord and his innocent People and what the Effects and End thereof will be and recollect in thy mind and ponder thy false Charges and things which thou hast written against them in that Pamphlet and see if thou canst stand by them when examined to thy face which thou hast published to the view of many People and let the Witness of God arise in thee and answer for it s of the Deity by which thou sayest the Barbarous People saw that Vengeance was due on Murderers and see if it will not be thy own Portion who art found a Hater of thy Brother as Cain did Abel without just Cause For he that hateth his Brother is a Murderer and we know that no Murderer hath Eternal Life abiding in him 1 John 3. 15. Chap. 2. vers 11. Therefore consider it and see if thy Fruits do agree with thy Profess●on for the Tree is known and judged by the Fruits it brings forth who sayst You eat Christ's Flesh and drink his Blood and that he dwelleth IN you and you IN him too high words for a Lyar and Slanderer and Murderer for such as eats his Flesh and drinks his Blood hath Eternal Life John 6. 54. which the Hater of his Brother hath not nor the Lyar and Railer hath not any Inheritance in the Kingdom of God and of Christ 1 Cor. 6. 9 10. which thou art manifested to be both as by thy Fruits hath Appeared And so thy saying Christ dwells IN you and you IN him will not save thee from the Lyars Portion which is the Lake of Torment which is already begun in thee and the Smoak thereof ascends in this thy foaming out thy own Shame against an Innocent People for which the Lord doth judge thee and it will ascend forever if thou repent not speedily Who art so Hardened to say Thou Testifiest in the Lord that the Quakers Spirit is a Spirit of Delusion and that their Doctrine is Antichristian And callest them Seducers and other Reproachful Names and that thou hast many Ten Thousands are ready to Testifie the same with thee But Thy Lord thou hast manifested whose Name thou art in to be the Lyar and Murderer from the beginning which ruleth in thee as by thy Fruits is evident And we do judge of a Tree by its Fruits as the Young-Man also said whom thou sayst is a Quaker Converted to Christianity as if the Quakers are no Christians shewing thy Envy against them and thy Ignorance or Wilful Blindness concerning the Scriptures of Truth in which may be seen plentifully that God's People whom he hath had regard unto above all People in all Ages were such as Trembled at his Word as in Isa 66. and Moses was a Leading-Quaker Hebr. 12. and Ezekiel was a Quaker see Chap. 12. 18. and Daniel a Man greatly beloved was a Trembler Chap. 10. 11 12. and Paul preached in much Trembling and in the Demonstration of the Spirit and of Power 1 Cor. 2. 3. and the same Apostle bid the true obedient Christians to work out their Salvation