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A86663 The cause of stumbling removed from all that will receive the truth; and from before the eyes of the wise men of London: in a treatise shewing the difference between the spirit of a man which is the candle of the Lord, and the light which hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world. Also shewing ... there is not diversity of lights and spirits, by which they are ministred ... Herein also is a false hosanna, and a false testimony reproved ... the name of him which hath so long travell'd to bring forth wind and confusion, is one known in the city of London by the name of Iohn Iackson ... that so ... understanding and knowledge of the truth may be increased, in those that follow on to know the Lord. Given forth from the Lords servant, Richard Hubberthorne. Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1657 (1657) Wing H3222; Thomason E929_5; ESTC R202544 39,439 35

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of the light which lighteneth every man that cometh into the world is not this to call light darkness to say that the light is so far from leading up to God that it drives the soul from God and keeps him in the Fall What is that which leads man out of the fall if the light keep man in it As this is contrary to Scripture and to truth so it is contrary to his own words as in pag. 7. there saying That by the Light is the will and minde of the Creator made known unto man and he sufficiently qualified to see it and understand it Answ. How can these two stand together That the Light drives man from God and keeps him in the fall and again That it makes known the will and mind of the Creator unto him and sufficiently qualifies him to see and understand it This cannot truly be called Hosana to the Son of David no●A Testimony to the Lords Christ but a Line of Confusion which is stretched out wherein darknesse is come forth as a Cloud and spreads it self over the earth to darken peoples minds from the knowledge and understanding of truth by words without knowledge but his folly shall proceed no further unreproved and made manifest Another false Testimony concerning the light is this That at first it moved upward and man could look God in the face and serve him but now since the fall the Thief is got into the Candle and now the Spirit burns downward and discovers the things beneath Ans. What is the nature of the Light cha●ged or is the Spirit so changed that before it ascended upward and now downward We shall try this according to the Scripture which saith Who knoweth the Spirit of man that goeth upward and the spirit of a Beast which goeth downward to the earth Eccles. 3. 21. so then if it goes downward it is the spirit of a Beast and not the spirit of a man And here it is plainly evident that he knows not the spirit of a man from the spirit of a Beast so unfit to cry Hosana to the Son of David or bear testimony to the Lords Christ But as for the Light which hath enlightned man that cometh into the world the fall did not change the quality of the light for the light is the same as it was but darknesse cannot comprehend ●t neither knows how to give a true testimony of it but confusedly speaks of two lights the one springing up with man in his natural birth sutable to his natural birth and another light sutable to the new birth that is born of the spirit This is a testimony which is not to be found in Scripture to be two Lights sutable to the two births for he that is born of the flesh persecutes him that is born of the Spirit and God hath put enmity between the two Seeds but to say that there is two lights sutable and so the one natural and the other spiritual the one of the earth earthly and the other of the Lord from Heaven as the two births are this is not a testimony according to truth for the light is but one and the spirit of truth is but one and the same spirit which led the Saints which believed into all truth the same did convince the world of sin because they did not believe in Christ Ioh. 16. ● And that light which is the condemnation of the world who love the darknesse rather then Christ the same is the Saviour of all them that believe and one man loves it and another hates it yet it is the same light Ioh. ● 19 but the Scriptures bears no such testimony as that there is two lights in man the one spiritual and the other natural and for any man to say that the light of Christ is natural is blasphemy against the Son of God and is a sin not easily forgiven and it is hard for such to find the place of repentance for every one that comes to repentance must first come to the light which Christ hath enlightned them withall and must know it to be spiritual and confesse it so and with this light come to discern the two births the one from the other and their several natures and how that the one birth is guided by the light it being as the eye giving them to see what to speak before they speak and so keeps them out of the worlds line which is confusion and as a Teacher giving them to understand what to do before they do it and so keeps them out of the condemnation bringing their works before-hand to judgement and so their works are wrought in God who answer the light which they be enlightened withall but the light is not sutable no● according to that birth which is born after the flesh but condemns that in all its wayes and actions and is given to lead the creature out of that nature and out of that birth into the regeneration to lead out of the deeds of darknesse and out of the shadow of death into the living inheritance among those that are sanctified in Christ Jesus Another testimony concerning the light relating to the two Covenants is this That as there was a new Covenant diverse from the former the old so there must of necessity be another light to accompany it diverse from the former that is as then mans spirit so now the spirit of the Lord c. page 35. Answ. Ther● are diversities of gifts but the same spirit and there are differences of Administrations but the same Lord and there are diversities of opperations but it is the same God which worketh all in all 1 Cor. 12 4 5 6. Now all people is to know that there was a ministration different from the administration of the Gospel the new Covenant a different administration from the old but there is no necessity that it be ministred from another spirit nor from another Lord nor from another Light therefore to say that because the Covenants or Admini●●ration● are diverse one from another that therefore it must not be the same spirit but the one by the spirit of man the other the spirit of God and that the light● is to be diverse the one from the other this is a false Testimony ●o●●●● same spirit in which the Law was administred the first Covenant ●● the same was the second administred which doth make perfect according to the conscience Now as all people is brought o●● of their o●● inventions and imaginations and from following their own spirits to own the light of Christ which hath enlightned them they shall know the diversities of Administrations and the diversity of opperations and yet but one Light and one Power and one Spirit and not as many lights as births nor as many spirits as opperations not every Administration to have a diverse light to accompany it for though there be that are called gods whether in heaven ●r in earth as there be gods many and lords many but to
line of thy knowledge and understanding for thou thy self confessest that unto those first beleevers Abel Enoch Noah Abraham Isaac Jacob Moses David Daniel and the rest there was communicated unto them a Spirit of Faith and a Light sutable and proportionable whereby they were enabled to behold Christ who was the object of their Faith Then if it did arise from the Spirit of Faith within them and the light of Christ who was the Author of their faith it did not arise from the Declaration of God in the promise without so that the mystery of faith which is held in a pure conscience is yet to be learned which was witnessed amongst the Saints So when thou writes again of the Law of Works or the law of Faith or the discovery which the Lord maketh to his creature under the diversities of these administrations keep back to the measure of the gift of God and then will thy testimony be no larger than thy knowledge which is a guilt hath spread over many in these dayes But this I say Blessed is the man which doth not condemne himself in the thing which he alloweth and which doth not destroy himself with the breath of his own mouth But there is a Generation which their own breath as fire shall devour them Again concerning the Light which every man is enlightned withal which is thy stumbling block and rock of offence as it is unto all the rest whose deeds are evil Thou saieth God hath not annointed it to that work nor laid the weight of eternal Salvation upon the shoulders thereof it being too weak for that service Answ. Him hath God annointed who is the Light of the world and hath enlightened every man that cometh into the world and there is no work of eternal Salvation wrought but in the light which every man is enlightened withal and this light is of him and from him which bears the sins in his own body and is not too weak for that service which the Father hath given him to do and this light is Christ and whereas some say Hath every man Christ every man hath Christ to save or to condemne him Christ is as truly the condemnation of those whose deeds are evil as he is the Saviour of them that believe and as those that believe in the light are already saved by Christ so also those that believe not in his light which he hath enlightened them withal are already condemned and so Christ is near unto every one to answer every mans work according to the nature of it whether he serve sin unto death or be found in the obedience of truth unto eternal life for now is the day appeared to try every mans work of what sort it is and now is many offended because the light is broken forth and their eye is evil because the Lords is good But wo unto the world because of offences if any have the spirit of a King let them search out the cause of the offence which is now broken forth amongst the children of men that the enmity which is in all sorts of people of all professions should rise up together and become a body the wicked joyning hand in hand preaching and printing and crying for unity which they are making up of enmity that they may be strong against that which the Lord hath now brought forth in his light and power to be witnesses unto him in every place wheresoever he doth call them witnessing forth his mercy and truth by which iniquity is purged out and preaching the Gospel freely to every creature whereby they may come to the knowledge of the truth that they may be saved But in the world it is so come to passe in these dayes that he that can but give reviling terms and hard speeches against the light which Christ hath enlightned every man withall calling it natural or insufficient and if they do but revile those which they call Quakers and put this in the beginning of his Book then it passeth with toleration and have as good approbation from the world as any of the Priests have for their Ministry but if any man begin to speak of the light within and the annointing within and the word of faith in the heart and of the mystery of faith in a pure conscience and of the sprinkling of the heart from an evil conscience and of believing in the light as Christ said such a one speaking of these things and not directing his speech in open reproach against them called Quakers the peoples hearts will be filled with jealousie lest he be one So that even the light is become a reproach unto them and their dirision daily but the Lords hand is turned against all such and he is turning the wise men backward and making their wisdom become foolishness For once there was a seeking after light in many that it might rise and open the things of God unto them and reveal the mysteries of his life whereby their souls might be satisfied and now when it is risen in many and hath brought forth its powerful effects now the man of sin hath his time and doth prevail in many to make them believe that it is not the light which is able to save the souls of them which believe in it and doth beget a spirit of jealousie in them which is stronger than death and begetteth a fear in them which worketh torment and many now doth fear and are jealous that that light is not the Christ which hath enlightened them and every one which cometh into the world and this is the work of Satan in the hearts of the disobedient which as every one comes to obey his light and to answer his perfect love to them which is manifest in the light that fear will be cast out and life will be given to that witness of God which once did breath after his life without which the soul cannot rest nor be satisfied and this shall many come to witness as the man of sin comes to be revealed which letteth and will let until he be taken out of the way and then shall they see at what they have stumbled and by what they have been overcome and then they will know that it had been good for them if they had walked i● the light of the Lord insteed of setting themselves against it and as the light it self by such before mentioned is denyed so the testimony which the children of light give of it is also despised and contended against as if it were not to be owned for a Doctrine of truth which doctrine of truth hath been laid often before people and is yet once more that they may consider prove and try and so believe and so be able to give a testimony from the witness of God in themselves First We say that Christ is the light of the world according to his own words Ioh. 8. 12. And again we say That he hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world
occasion against us by searching our Books and as he saith hath found some contradictions in them which may appeare to be so to his dark mind yet in the sight of the spirit of the Lord that is truth which he sees to be no other then error However this is sent forth for the true information of peoples minds that they may know that truth is bold and confident and that it is Armor which defendeth from all enemies and giveth strength to answer the craftinesse of men And this same Iohn Iackson hath shewed himself now to be one with the common Priests of the world for as they have done so hath he opposed the way and people of God and with the very same Arguments shewing that he is of the very same spirit with them his discourse and arguments being of the same nature as theirs are yea he hath shewed himself to be of the very same spirit with all the open prophane wretches which doth revile and scorn and abuse in every town and countrey the Lords people and as they do so so hath he written with subtil Arguments to the very same end as they reproach and scorn to wit in a derision and despising the way and servants of the Lord so that his self-separation is now seen what it is to be a very cheat and hypocrisie who while he professeth a separation from the world doth practice the very same wickednesse and is not changed from them in nature though he be in appearance But what a poor work hath he brought forth in two years time which he saith his work hath been as Embres raked up in ashes yet a work that gains no praise of God nor very little of the praise of any man It seems he hath hatched mischief upon his bed and brought it forth in the morning Who would have thought but a wise man in that time would have brought forth a larger peece and more to purpose I am sure he might have made better use of his time in another exercise then to have writ against the servants of the Lord It had been more honest for him to have set his Pen to Paper and studyed to have given his testimony against the pride and drunkennesse and oppression and whoredoms and wickednesse in this great City I say it had been more honest and liker a Saint to have sought the reforming of prophanenesse and wickednesse that greatly abounds in this City then to have studyed two years to bring forth his invented stuffe against a harmlesse and innocent people which he nor any can justly charge with evil but as he hath digged deep by his imaginations in recollecting a seeming-contradiction out of our writings which is no contradiction no more then Christs words are who saith Except ye eat my flesh and drink my blood ye have no life in you and yet in the same discourse saith The flesh profits nothing and for Isaiah to go with the word of the Lord to Hezekiah to tell him he should dye and not live yet in the same instant of time told him he should live and not dye Would not Iohn Iackson have counted these contradictions But what he hath done in this in sending forth a Book against the Quakers he hath been so far from beating down sin drunkards and rude scorners and abusive men that he hath fully strengthened their hands and the wickedst people in this Nation are very glad of his work He hath given them matter to oppose truth withall but his reward and theirs shall be both with one hand and he shall drink his portion in the same Lake with such whose hands he hath strengthened and let him know and themall God hath established us upon a sure Mountain which the Gates of Hell and Death cannot prevail against So his work i● counted of us and cast by as our spoyled prey of Babylons treasure only this is sent abroad after it in the pursute of it which is not done with multitudes of words of mans wisdom but in the plain nakednesse of innocent truth which is more strength then all his Arguments of guile whereby he would deceive the people but he can deceive none but such as are deceived already for all that are in the light and in the truth sees beyond all that he can say and are established where his word can never reach them to take away their peace or disquiet them for as I said we are established upon a sure foundation and are tryed and proved and cannot be blown away with any windy Doctrines of men which begets into st●ffe and not into true sincerity of heart but wo unto that man that works offence and doth cast stumbling-blocks in the way of the simple And though the Lords people be a suffering people yet wo unto them that causeth them to suffer And though he and some others in their spirits were elevated thinking thereby to trample upon the innocent by that occasion happening concerning I. N. which was not suffered of the Lord to be as an occasion to destroy his people but as an occasion to try them and to prove them and thereby are they tryed and proved and the more setled rather then confounded and Iohn Iackson and such like may glory in such things for a moment because the appearance of it seems evil yet the Lord will make their glorying void for the Lord hath wayes enough to preserve his people and this we have found in many needful times and as concerning this thing which was looked upon as a breach among us by many yet it 's over and truth stands a top of it the beauty of truth appears through it all and truth is more lovely when it is proved and purged What if the Lord suffer his to be lead and tempted for a season let not the wicked boast of this for though the righteous fall he shall rise again but the wicked fall into mischief But yet we learn something by this what a great use the devil hath made hereof and how many Books and lying Scribbles hath been sent forth about it concerning us which are all counted by us no better then the worst corrupted treasure that ever grew in Babylon and the best of it is but baubles to please vain minds for men of sound understandings can take no pleasure therein And we see how by all means the Devil and his people seeks occasion against the wayes and people of God how glad are the wicked when they get an occasion against the Lords people and how do they glory in it and boast in it for a time thinking that their hands are strengthened in a greater boldnesse to do mischief And Iohn Iackson is one of those that takes pleasure in these things and he hath managed his businesse with a great deal of craft but there is none that will praise him for it except such whose wicked hands he strengthens such as he must have stumblings after the way of the Lord hath
all truth to them that love it and obey it And that neither the Light nor the Law doth convince of the sinne of unbelief That the Lamp and the Light are convertable terms Thy word is as a Lamp Psal. 119. 105. and that the Light and the Law is one pag. 30. So by this the Light which is the spirit of man or mans Reason and the Law the word which of that which is called a Testimony of the Lords Christ we shall try it with the former testimony of the Lords Christ as it is written in the Scriptures which was given forth from those which were true witnesses First As in answer to these things there is not one Testimony in the Scriptures neither from Prophet nor Apostle that ever said the Spirit of man or mans reason or understanding was the Light which every one that cometh into the world is enlightned withall But the testimony of truth concerning those which followed their own spirits is this The Lord sent his Prophet Ezekiel to cry wo unto the fooli●h Prophets that followed their own spirits and had seen nothing Ezek. 13. 3. Now they were not without the spirit of a man for then they could not be a man as he saith now if they had the Spirit of man and Reason and if this was all eye how was it that they saw nothing when he saith It sees all things so it is not a true testimony of the Light nor of the Lords Christ But the spirit of man is the Candle of the Lord and the Lord having lighted it then it searcheth the inward parts of the belly And David who knew what the spirit of man was and what a Candle was without light and what it was when it was lighted he said For thou wilt light my candle the Lord my God will enlighten my darknesse Psal. 1● 28. So if the spirit of man be the Candle of the Lord then whether doth not Christ enlighten every man which cometh into the world and whether is not that light Christ seeing the spirit is but the Candle and that it must be lighted Another testimony of his is this That it is the property of Light to make manifest Eph. 5. 13. but all things that are reproved are made manifest by the Light for whatsoever doth make manifest is light pag. 29. And again in pag. 3● saith That it is not in the power of the light as it is in every man so much as ●o call any thing which is done either good or ●vil Answ. Whether of these two contraries must men believe whether the light is able to make manifest whatsoever is reprovable or that there is no● power in i● to call any thing good or evil But by this all men may see that this is not a true Testimony to the Lords Christ nor to his Light Never was there any such Doctrine preached by any that cryed Hosana to the Son of David no● that did give testimony to the Lords Christ That there is not power in the light to call any shing done good or evil Now let all who have received the measuring-Line and the equal Ballance weigh and consider seeing the Scripture saith Whatsoever things is reprovable is made manifest by ●●e Light Is evil deeds reprovable then they are ●ade manifest then you see them to be evil deeds lying to be an evil deed swearing to be an evil deed drunkennesse to be an evil deed covetousnesse to be an evil deed pride to be an evil deed whoredom to be an evil deed false accusing to be an evil deed gain-saying the truth to be an evil deed anger and wrath to be evil deeds and these things are reprovable and as the light doth make them manifest so it reproves them and such are convinced of sin because they believe not in Christ so that unbelief is reprovable and is made manifest by the Light And whereas some say That the Light doth not reprove for the s●n of unbelief that is false for unbelief is reprovable and whatsoever things are r●proveable is made manifest by the Light but he that doth evil hateth the light and will not bring his deeds to the light lest the light should reprove him Ioh. 3. 20. And Iesus said unto certain Greeks and people which stood by him which objected against his words which was no Saints nor believers While y●● have the Light believe in the Light that ye may be the children of Light Ioh. 12. 36. Now he did not bid them believe in that which could not reprove unbelief I am come a light into the world that whosoever believeth in me should not abide in darknesse And Iesus cryed and said He that believeth on me believeth on him that sent me Also Ioh. 12. 44 46. This Light was not mans reason nor understanding neither was it mans spirit that was the true Light which lighteneth every one that cometh into the world Ioh. 1. 9. Again another false testimony concerning the Light is this That the Light did drive Adam from the voice and presence of God and so far is the Light from leading up to God that it drives the soul from God and keeps him in the fall pag. 53. Answ. This Doctrine is to turn the truth of God into a lye and to call light darknesse and darknesse light for there is no such testimony in the Scriptures that the Light did drive Adam from the voice and presence of God but Adam saith I was afraid because I was naked and I hid my self It was because he had disobeyed Gods voyce not because he was enlightned for the Scripture saith It is your sins that hath s●parated you from God it doth not say that it is the light which hath separated you from God or driven you from him this may well be called a damnable Doctrine or Doctrine of Devils Hath God sent his Son ● Light into the world to drive the souls from God and keep them in the fall Now let all consider and judge that ever knew the Light whether it be darknesse or it be light which drives the soul from God and keeps it in the fall Now this Doctrine being compared with the Scriptures is utterly false and there is few that professe godlinesse in this Nation that can bear it or approve of it and for such as account themselves the highest profession and above forms under the Name of Seekers to publish such a thing in print here it appears that the best of men is but as a Briar and the most upright is sharper then a Thorn-Hedge for the day of thy Watch-men and thy Visitation cometh now shall be their perplexity Mi● 7 4. Now here is a day for tryal that they which can may try the spirits and doctrines whether they be of God Now I shall lay it to that of God in all is it not the work of the Devil to drive the soul from God and to keep people in the fall If so then it is not the work
according to his words who was sent a Messenger before his face to bear witnesse to the truth and his witnesse is true Ioh. 2. 9. And as Christ hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world so we say to every man warning both small and great to believe in the light that they may be the children of light which was Christs Doctrine to the world Ioh. 12. 36. And now what Christ doth and effecteth by it in those that believe in his light and followeth it which effects and opperations by the world is denyed and by us is affirmed some of the effects of it I shall mention which is opposed as first That it will not let those that are guided by it take Gods Name in vain but will draw th●m out of the Worships of the world and keep them in the fear of God and to stand still in it is the first step to peace That it discovers things that are contrary to it That it is their Teacher that love it and their condemnation that hate it according to Christs words Ioh. 3. 19. That waiting in it will guide them to God and shew them the way to the Father as Christ saith No man cometh unto the Father but by me Ioh. 14. 6. and no man cometh unto the Father by Christ but as they are led and guided by his light within them That it op●ns all the Scriptures and leads man out of the fall up to God for him hath the Fath●r given to be a Leader and Commander unto the people and he leadeth them by his light Another effect is That it convinceth of all ungodlinesse and worldly lusts and is a Teacher and Director teaching and directing in righteousnesse purity and holinesse c. And that the light is but one in him that loves it and in him that hates it leading the one to God from whence it comes to receive eternal life and condemning the other from God because he obeyeth not the truth that he might be saved And this is the testimony of truth which is now held forth never to be denyed But who hath believed our report even they to whom the Arm of the Lord is revealed And this is the way by which people may come to know the truth of this testimony by obeying the light which Christ hath enlightned them withall thereby shall they know whether this Doctrine be of God or whether we speak of ourselves and whether all those effects is not brought forth by the working of Christs light in them and then they shall not believe onely because of our words nor be envious against it because of others words but will finde the testimony in themselves which is according to the record which God hath given of his Son and according to the testimony which we have given of the light and he that believeth shall be established Now that which opposeth this is that which beareth a testimony contrary to Christ who saith For this end was I born and for this end came I into the world to bear witnesse unto the truth and every one that is of the truth heareth my voice Ioh. 18. 37. And this was his witnesse and his Messengers witnesse That he was the Light of the world and That this is the true light which hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world Ioh. 8. 12. Ioh. 1. 9. And this contrary testimony which is brought forth is this That it is the spirit of man that is the light which hath enlightned every man and so going about to prove the spirit of man not to be sufficient under this would destroy the sufficiency of the light of Christ But the Scriptures never did give testimony that the spirit of man was the light of the world neither did we ever say that this light was the spirit of every man nor a natural light And therefore this man which hath writ a Volume in proving a natural light or mans reason insufficient let all people take notice what he contradicts or disproves by it he doth not by it contradict nor disprove any thing that we have said for we never did affirm that mans reason was the light but he hath laboured to contradict himself He hath set up an Image and then glories in breaking of it down from our words draws a false inference and glories in confounding it And this is the general course of our opposers to raise a false proposition or conclusion from their own imaginations and then contradict it and then cry The Quakers contradicted or confuted and their Doctrine disproved and they irrecoverably slain and many such cryes is gone forth in the world among people like the noise of many waters To which I answer Nay they are not of such a birth that they are so easily slain nor of such a Doctrine that they are so easily disproved for the immortal birth is brought forth unto which God hath given wisdom and understanding to be as wise as Serpents and in their innocency is their wisdom brought forth which Seed inheriteth the strength of the Almighty so though they be permitted to fight and contend against the truth yet to prevail is not given them Therefore in vain is the Net spread in the sight of any Bird and in vain do they exercise their strength against the Lords annointed for this which they have brought forth is but as setting of bryars and thorns in battel against the Lord or as if the untimely birth should strive against that birth which is brought forth without deformity to slay it as those in former ages who were wiser in their generation then the children of light sought to slay the Heir that the Inheritance might be theirs In like manner do men now also rise up against the life of the same Seed which is risen in the hearts of the children of men to slay it that so they may professe the Scriptures in their high swelling words of vanity having mens persons in admiration because of advantage for if this Seed doth live which the Lord hath not onely brought to the birth but also brought forth it will stop that profession which stands in the hypocrisie and will quench that violence of fire in which that zeal flames out which is not according to knowledge But the Seed is risen which inherits the strength of the Almighty which can bear all things and suffer all things and will come to reign over all gainsayers for all the high swelling words of vanity shall come to nought and truth shall be exalted over all in the power of the eternal Spirit when blacknesse of darkness will cover all those spirits which have spent their strength against the appearance and manifestation of truth and those that now boast themselves in their presumption against the servants of the Lord and testimony of truth Shall come to be a servant of servants even to the least in the kingdom of God before they have right unto that which they now profess
or before they be counted worthy to cry Hosanna to the son of David or to bear a testimony to the Lords Christ For he will have none such to be his witnesses as deny his light which he hath enlightened every man withal For the true witnesses bear this testimony of Christ That he is the true light and is the light of the world which hath enlightened every man that cometh into the world that every man through him might bel●eve and every one in whom this witnesse is found true is justified of God Another Accusation is against Richard Farnsworth for saying That Christ did break the Passeover with his Disciples and herein he is Charged to want Light or that the light in him was not sufficient in him to open this and that he did not discern between the Passeover and the Supper of the Lord And likewise is Accused for calling that a Shadow which the Scripture saith was but to shew the Lords death till he came Answ. To call the Supper the Passeover doth not demonstrate that he wants light neither that the light is insufficient for the Disciples called it the Passeover which they prepared for him and Christ called it the Passeover which he eat with his Disciples Mark 14. 12. 14. Matth. 26. 20 21 22. and that which they eat he broke but it doth not say That he broke his bones nor eat his bones yet he eat the Passeover with his Disciples And whereas he is accused for calling that a shadow and many now in imitation take bread and wine and call that the Lords Supper opposing those that are come to the substance and witness the substance eating that which is meat indeed and drinking that which is drink indeed But this man which doth oppose Richard Farnsworth and others in these things he ha●h the least reason to mention this Supper or the breaking of Bread of any for others do call their breaking of bread and drinking of wine the Lords Supper because they practise it But this man doth neither practise that as the Lords Supper nor witness the substance so that this is the greatest hypocrisie To contend about that or to accuse others in denying of that which he himself denyes the practise of So that this accusers doctrine and accusations wants both light and reason Another Accusation is against these two Writers Richard Farnsworth and Francis Howgill as if they should be in an unreconciled Difference because the one hath affirmed That the light of Christ is sufficient to open all the Scriptures And the other saith Thou that tells of opening Chapters or Verses by meanings thou never heard a word of Christ Answ. These are not Differences for the light of Christ and mans meanings are contrary So for the one to say the light doth open and the other to say mans meanings doth not open this is not contrary So the confusion is turned again to the Accuser and doth not belong to these two Writers So the ignorance of this Accuser is to be taken notice of which would make people believe things that is not For if he write his Book for those that can neither read see nor hear his labour is in vain and if he write it to those that can read see hear and understand they will account it foolishness especially in this day when the light of life is broken forth among the children of men to give them an understanding according to truth for in this day he that keepeth silence is reputed wise and better is he that keepeth silence than he that speaks unless the spirit of the Lord give him utterance Another Accusation is against W. D. he speaking so such a one as is guided by the Lamb c. saying The light in thy Conscience the righteous law cryes through thy earthly heart and brings it into judgement c. And then speaking of the parable of the little leaven hid in three measures of me●l that it changeth the whole lump into the nature of it self so the little light that shines in thy dark heart is the powerful Word of Faith and that the light is the sure word of Prophesie whereunto ye do well to take heed until the day dawn and the day-star arise in your hearts And for these things he is Accused Answ. Those that are guided by the Lamb do witness that the ●ight the righteous law cryes through the earthly heart and brings it into judgement and will not accuse one for saying so and as for speaking of the little light as Christ spoke of the little leaven Was it no offence in the dayes of the son of man to preach that the kingdom of heaven was like unto a grain of mustard seed or like unto a little leaven And is it an offence now ●o preach the word of Faith to be as a little light or to preach the annointing to be as a little light in those in whom the light is little doth this also offend you What then if we should say That Christ is the light of life the son of righteousness and the glory and express figure of the Fathers substance in some and but as a little light o● day-star in others or in others as a light before the day-star arise in their hearts Is not the light great in some and little in others And is not Christ the same May that only be called Christ which takes away the sins And may not that also be called Christ which pierceth through the soul and revealeth the thoughts of many hearts Luke 2. 35. May he only be called Christ unto whom the Father hath given the Heathen for his inheritance and the utmost parts of the earth for his possession who reigneth and hath all his enemies under his feet and is not he the same as he is descended into the lower parts of the earth and which took upon him the form of a servant So therefore that none may err in their judgments concerning the testimony which is given of Christ and of his light his light is more or less according to his manifestation in every one there being given to every one a manifestation of the spirit to profit withal and every one is to be turned to the measure of their manifestation to know and witness Christ in it though in many it be but as a little light yet they are to be turned unto it while it is so which as it doth encrease and is enlarged it may be called or declared under another name than little as the kingdom of Heaven is not alwayes like unto a grain of mustard-seed nor as a little leaven but comes to rule in the children of men And whereas the Accuser replieth against the light and against Christ to be the word of Faith saying Christ is called the Word of God Rev. 19. 13. but not the Word of Faith and yet saith in page 45. That Christ is the Author and finisher of Faith Answ. If Christ be the Word of God and faith
come by Hearing and Hearing by the Word of God then how is it that he is not the word of Faith being that word by which Faith comes when it is heard and he being the Author of it May he not then as well be called the Word of it as the Author of it seeing he is the Word by which it comes but that all may understand what this word of faith was which the Apostle preached This was Christ Rom. 10. and they preached no other Word to be the Word of faith but Christ That whosoever believed on him should not be ashamed So that if the ignorance of Christ and of the Apostles words were blotted out of the hearts of our Accusers they would be silent and the daylie reproach would cease And whereas it is affirmed by us That the Light or a measure of Christ within is a sure Word of Prophesie or a more sure Word of Prophesie as Peter saith 2 Pe●. 1. 19. And whereas many are offended at this and labours to make people believe that this is the Writings of the Prophets which is the more sure Word of Prophesie the Apostle speaks of because he saith Knowing this first that no Prophesie of the Scriptures is of any private interpretation for the Prophesie came not in old time by the will of man but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by she Holy Ghost c. Ans. Now I shall make it appear that it was not the Writings of the Prophets which was that more sure Word as first concerning that here is one thing held out to be a sure Word and another thing held out to be more sure as unto those to whom it was spoken And as concerning the first That which is held out to be a sure Word is that which ●ame from the Father the voice which cam● from the excellent Glory saying This is my beloved Son in whom I am w●ll pleased and this voice which came from Heaven the Disciples heard when they were with him in the holy Mount This was a sure Word when it was spoken and when it was written it was a sure Testimony as sure as any of the Prophets Writings for the Prophets did see that he was to come and that he that was to come was the well-b●loved Son of the Father and they wrote this down and it was a sure testimony of Christ and Peter and the rest saw that he was come and did hear the voice from the excellent Glory proclaiming him to be the Son of God and when they had seen it they wrote it down and this was as sure a testimony yea a surer then the Prophets and that which the Apostles were eye-witnesses of and did write down for truth was as much ●● be taken heed unto as that which the Prophets declared and this will all men of understanding judge that the Apostle Peter did not direct the people to the Prophets words to take heed to them because they were more sure th●n his own and more to be believed But although the Apostles words and writings was confirmed with more power and witnesse of the Spirit then the Prophets and both true yet the Apostles Ministry unto those which did not see those things which the Prophets saw muchlesse those things the Apostles saw no not so far as the dawning of the day nor to the day-star risen in their hearts therefore Peter dividing the word of God aright saith unto them We have a more sure Word of Prophesie whereunto ye do well that ye take heed as unto a light that shineth in a dark place until the day dawn and the day-star aris● in your hearts 2 Pet. 1. 19. It was more sure for them to ●ake heed unto that which was as a light shining in a dark place till the day-star did arise and the day dawn in their hearts then the declarations from others without them decla●rd in words writings as thus for example by experience to such I shall direct my speech who canno● witnesse the day dawned nor the day-star risen in their hearts nor hath heard the voice from the excellent Glory to such I say That which I have seen and heard the visions power and glory wherein I am an eye witnesse of his glory and of his appearance this I may declare and write unto you and you may believe it But to such I say It is more sure for them to take heed to the light that shines in the dark place till they come to witnesse in ●hemselves the day dawned and day-star risen and the Son of God made manifest in them then to take heed to the words which I have declared though it be a true testimony for the Apostle did not write to himself nor say that it was more sure unto him bu● unto them unto whom he wrote his Epistle for unto him no Word of Prophesie was more sure then that which he had seen and heard when he was with Christ in the holy Mount So this may inform your understandings who have more desir● to know the truth then to oppose it and may put to silence the vain disputings by men of corrupt minds who are destitute of the truth alwayes corrupting the words of truth to oppose the life of it as many such there are in these dayes which the Lord hath and will rebuke sharply that they may be asham●d but all who are led and guided by the light of Christ shall know the annointing in them and the word of faith yea the Son of God He that can receive it without offenc● let him 5. Obj. But he that hath opposed us saith in pag. 25. of his Book in the second part That the dawning of the day is rather an evening then a morning Ans. Now let all which have but known a day and a night in the Creation judge whether the evening or the morning be the dawnings of the day or whether the day-star be a fore-runner of the day or of the night then it will not be incredible which I have said before that he calls darknesse light and light darknesse but in such things our opposers will not receive a good report from those which can give true judgement and to such it is left to judge of those things Obj. Again he saith in pag. 35. That the spirit of truth was not a Comforter to the Apostles nor a reprover to the world before Christ was ascended and yet himself to contradict himself saith that he was in them before and dwelt in them the same spirit but not the same measure Ans. Here is Babylon at the height fit to be pul'd down but needs little answering seeing that i● answereth it self and for such reasons as these he might well conceal his name And if he could have put this off by hiding his Name for an Hosanna to the Son of David or A Testimony to the Lords Christ then he might well have boasted and have gloryed in his shame as if there had been
he may say that it is both unnecessary and unseasonable either to conceive or bring forth any such thing against the seed which the Lord hath blessed for there was never any as yet which did strive against the Lord or his annoynted ones which did prosper neither shall to the ends of the earth So the burden of this man is searched Judged and found not to be the burthen of the word of the Lord though he thought it to be so when in him he felt the fire of enmity boyling and bubling up within him as in his Epistle But we have found it to be such a burthen as the false Prophets in Jerusalem did see for the people which was false burthens and causes of banishment Lam. 2. 14. But if the fire of the Lord had been kindled in him it would have consumed this birth in the womb before ever it had been brought forth But the hour is comeing and now is in which the Lord is fulfilling his promise according to the Scriptures which saith that he will make Jerusalem a burthensome stone for all people all that burthen themselves with it shall be cut in peices though all the people upon the earth be gathered together against it Zac. 12. 3. And as this was spoken so it is fulfilled and fulfilling that the testimony of God may be sealed up among his children For now is the light risen with which the Lord Christ is gathering into the new Jerusalem the City of the living God and now hath many burthened themselves with it And so burthened that they cannot tel how to unburthen themselves of it but to ease themselves of that burthen which is ready to presse them down they break forth into revileing termes and un●avory speeches and false assertions against the light and those that walk in it and will deny both the light and children of light to be spiritual Some calling it natural light some calling it natural conscience some created light some the light of reason and understanding some old creation light some a dim light some the spirit of man and so burthen themselves with it when they have both spoken and printed such things to ease them of their burthen their burthen grows again and so they do not cease to vex and grieve the holy spirit of God from day to day and when they have burthened themselves with the enmity against the light and the works of righteousnesse proceeding forth from it to the father then they cry the burthen of the Lord the fire of the Lord within them But saith the Lord to such I will destroy that man and his house and the burthen of the Lord shall ye mention no more for every mans word shall be his burthen for ye have perverted the words of the living God of the Lord of Hosts our God Ier. 23. 36. Theref●re is the measureing line gone forth to measure the false burthens whereby they pervert the words of the living God with their own words and Imaginations and unto those which ever were reproachers of the way and people of God the Lord saith I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you and a perpetual shame which shall not be forgotten Ier. 13. 40. So this is written that no man should any more burthen themselves with the burthensome stone wereby they will be broken to peices if they fall upon it But that every one may come to it that with it they may see their false burthens and the sin which doth so easiely beset them and may cease grieving of the spirit of the Lord while his spirit striveth with them may come to know every man his own word which will become his burthen when it returns again unto him But the word of the Lord goeth forth returns not empty neither doth it burthen him which it goes forth from when it returns again unto him Although the true burthen of the word of the Lord be known in many before it go forth from them Therefore then seeing that it is an untimely birth and not that which is born of the sprit which is come forth from him to whom I now am to speak Now least others being in the same blindnesse with him think as he doth that it is a true voice or Hosana to the Son of David or a true testimony to the Lords Christ I shall weigh his testimony seeing that the true Voice is gone forth both in the dayes of his flesh and since in which dayes he was truly declared to be the light of the world and the true light which lightneth every one that cometh into the world Ioh. 1. 9. Ioh. 8. Now seeing that this Author hath set up another thing to be the light which hath enlightned every man then Christ viz. the spirit of man I shall try this testimony according to the Scriptures whether it be a testimony of the Lords Christ or a testimony against him in these things following which are the Heads of his Doctrine conc●rning the Light Concerning the LIGHT what it is It is the spirit of every man which is in him and without which he cannot ●e a man and is the Candle of the Lord Prov. 20. 27. This spirit of a man is the Reason of a man or the Vnderstanding of a man What this Light doth it gives him to know his Creator and the end of his creation viz. who made him and why he was made also how he should answer the end of him that made him and that God set up this Light in man to see by both whom he is to serve and how he is to serve him together with the reason thereof Because God made him And with this Light God hath s●● up a Law which Law is called Light Prov. 6. 23. whereby the will and mind of his Creator is made known unto him and he sufficiently qualified to see it understand it c. p. 7. It searcheth the inward parts of the Belly At first it moved upward and it could look God in the face and serve him But now since the fall the Thief is got into this Candle and hath dim'd the light and covered the aspiring ascendan● quality and now it burn● downward and discovers the things beneath pag. 6. That it is all eye it sees all that is done but doth nothing it neither likes nor dislikes approves nor disproves but as it is in conjunction with a Law pag. 10. That it is the property of Light to make manifest Eph. 5. 13. Pag. 29. That it is not in the power of the Light as it is in every man so much as to call any thing that is done either good or ●vil pag. 32. That the Light did drive Adam from the voice and presence of God so far is the Light from leading up to God that i● drives ●●e soul from God and keeps him in the fall pag. 53. That it doth not lead into all truth such as love it and obey it pag. 54. Not doth it reveal
no spirit of discerning in those he calls Quakers nor others but the eye of truth is not yet so blinde but we know an evening from a morning a night from a day and a lye from truth and we know also that the disciples had a measure of the spirit of truth while he was with them upon earth and this spirit did both comfort them and did carry them on in obedience to his will and in the power of this spirit went forth into the world and reproved the world of sin because they did not believe in Christ and the devils was subject unto them by the spirit of truth that was in them before Christ ascended and to this there is a Cloud of witnesses So that this from him filling his Book with such things as these is as if a man should fill a Ba●n with Chaff instead of Corn and deceive others with selling i● for Corn Another contradiction of the same nature is this That the manifestation of the Spirit is given to no man for himself but to every man to profit withall to edi●ie and build up and do service in the body as an hand foot or eye or some other member of the body c. and to contradict this in the next words saith Not that the spirit or the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man i. e. to every individual person forasmuch as some men are sensual having not the spirit therefore no manifestation thereof pag. 17. Ans. This is like the former and so to be cast out with it for his distinction of words between every man and every individual person wil not cover him for where the Scripture saith every man without distinction that is every individual man and woman And the Apostle saith But the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit withall he doth not say not to every individual person And this also I say and affirm That to every man is given a manifestation of the spirit to profit withall and he that profits with it by it shall be justified and he that doth not profit with it by it shall be condemned because he is an unprofitable servant and this truth shall stand when all confusion shall have an end yet some are sensual having not the spirit Obj. Again in despising the testimony from the measure of the gift of the spirit of God when they have spoken according to the measure could not boast themselves above their measure but in their measure witnessing the work of God as it was fulfilled in them such he scornfully reproacheth saying What means those cracks and crannes in their knowledge knowing but in part there is no pieces nor parts nor measures nor degrees in absolute perfection but whosoever sayes he knows in part he is short of perfection and whosoever saith he knoweth perfectly he knows not how perfect his knowledge is and the first of these is called a vain man boasting of that which is not and of a false gift and is like clouds and winde without rain Ans. Herein is Pauls Doctrine as well as ours declared against to be but as cracks and crannes and a vain boasting of a false gift for Paul saith We dare not make our selves of the number or compare our selves with some that commend themselves but they measuring themselves by themselves and comparing themselves with themselves are not wise But we will not boast of things without our measure but according to the measure of the Rule which God hath distributed unto us a measure to reach even unto you for we stretch not our selves beyond our measure not boasting of things without our measure that is of other mens labours Now this measure of which he thus spoke was in Christ so in perfection and there is parts and degrees in Christ and so in absolute perfection for so far as every man is in the measure of the gift of God so far he is in Christ and so far his knowledge is perfect and abiding in this he abideth in that which is perfect and as he glories in this he gloryes in a true gift and none shall make this glorying void Obj. And whereas Iohn Iackson saith of those that say they have but attained in measure he calleth that the bleeting of the sheep and the lowing of the Oxen which declares plainly that they are not at home they are not in the City but have certain miles to travel before they arrive Ans. This is a false interptetation as I shall leave it unto all of understanding to judge for the bleeting of the Sheep and the lowing of the Oxen did signifie Sauls disobedience unto the commandment of God for which the Lord did reject him But when Paul said he knew in part and prophesied in part and would not boast above his measure this did not signifie his disobedience to the Lord but contrariwise his obedience and that he was in Christ Jesus so this was not as the bleeting of the Sheep and lowing of the Oxen neither did it shew that they were not in the City for Paul testifieth of the holy Brethren which he was a Minister unto That they were come unto Mount Sion and unto the City of the living God the heavenly Ierusalem and to an innumerable company of Angels to the general Assembly and Church of the first-born which are written in heaven and t● God the Iudge of all and to the spirits of just men made perfect and to Iesus the Mediator of the new Covenant to the blood of sprinkling Now let him that have thus accused shew how many Miles these had to travel before they came to the City whether was any parts measures or degrees in these or whether there was absolute perfection without any measure or degrees of it and whether Paul was not come so far as these unto whom he preached wisdom even among those that were perfect and might he not in that estate say that he would not stretch himself beyond his measure But this I say None are true witnesses of perfection but those who know their measure and abide in it and likewise those that call the witnessing of the truth in a measure of the spirit the bleeting of the Sheep or the lowing of the Oxen such never knew perfection neither yet presseth after it but would keep all others from it by despiteful terms against the measure of the spirit which leadeth unto it But the day is come and the light is risen which hath found out and discovered all the cunning craftinesse of men in which they go about to deceive the hearts of the simple and beguile unstable souls but the elect Seed is risen which it is impossible to deceive for it is not the Scripture-words which men may take and speak in the hypocrisie which can darken our knowledg no● any way hinder the testimony of truth in those which have received it in the power of God only with such things the blind may lead
the blind and with such things they may strive to keepe others out of the kingdom which have not tasted of the good word of God neither are brought to know a measure of God in themselves whereunto to be obedient but I see the Lord is opening a way for such to come out of the pits which they have been led into in opening their eyes and letting them see that their Watchmen is blind and that understanding is departed from them even from their Leaders and the counsels of God is departed even from the ancient and the people is even like to perish for want of vision because they have not seen for themselves but their Teachers have seen for them vain visions and lying divinations and prophesied lyes causing the ignorant to believe them but the Lords hand is stretched out against such and is stretched out to gather his own Seed from such to bring them into the fear of the Lord which is the beginning of wisdom and into the knowledge of the holy which is understanding Prov. 9. 10. which understanding is a Well-spring of life Another seeming strength risen up against us is the conceit of the discovery of a schism in the body as if the Band or Girdle which bound up the body were broken and as if there were now a character brought forth amongst us shewing a variety of persons doctrines and practices and as if the testimony of our being of the body of Christ from the unity in the body were ceased and as if the Heads were divided and a● for proof instances G. F. to I. N. I N. to G. F. I. B. to I. N. and as if it were not person but party which some wonder at admiring and waiting to see the Lords counsel and pleasure in it Ans. All those that wait to see the Lords counsel and pleasure and his wisdom in this thing shall see it and be satisfied and it will for the time to come be more for the confounding of those that watch for iniquity then any way for confirming them in iniquity and by that which God hath done and is doing shall the Girdle and Band of our love be made stronger and in this shall the sight of our enemies fail and become blindnesse for their thoughts is not as Gods thoughts in these things neither their eye as his eye for he saw a better thing for us in these things then they have imagined for that which they thought wrought for evil hath wrought together for good unto those that stand in Gods counsel who always waits to see those works which stands in his wisdom contrary to mans reason for that which they thought did break that hath bound and that which they thought did separate that hath united together so that there is not a difference nor dividing of Heads not in persons nor in parties nor in doctrines nor in practices but the same unity in the body in the faith in the seed in the covenant in one heart and one soul one way and worship of God in the spirit is now as much or more then ever before witnessed so that God hath cut off occasion from those that seek occasion and hath taken away the corner-stone that the wicked thought to build upon and hereby hath God tryed and discovered and brought to light that which lay in the bottom of the deepest pits for God hath brought in this his day many things forth to try and prove those who said they were his people and those that a few dayes since seemed to be like Lambs do now manifest themselves to be in the nature of Lyons and ravening Wolves and those that pretend to wait for the coming of Christ in power and had the Name of Seekers they are now found to reject his coming and to be such as watch for iniquity in those among whom Christ is come and now they are turned backward and now drink up that which they had vomited up for now if they could but finde any iniquity among such as God hath made known the glory of his power among or if they can but suppose or imagine any such thing from false conceptions and conclusions this would be a sufficient ground to them to print a Book upon and publish it abroad and but that the Lord hath been on our sides well may we say when all sorts of men and religions hath risen up against us by their violence had we been consumed for the powers of darknesse and all the divers worships of the Beast are now more joyned together then ever and the deepest subtilty of the Serpent is now at work in his members to devise wayes and change the Laws and times whereby the spirit might be quenched which God hath raised up in his children whereby a mighty cry is gone forth through the Nations against the mystery of iniquity where it worketh both in the root and the branches of it and now is the burden of the Beasts of the South felt as truly as in the Prophets dayes Isa. 30. 6. from whence cometh the young and old Lyon the Viper and fiery flying Serpent and now doth the mighty and terrible cry of the spirit of the Lord go forth to the men of this generation as it went forth before time to the Aegyptians concerning this which the Lord hath wrought your strength is to stand still and if this counsel of the Lord be by you received you shall know more of the wayes and workings of the Lord with his children and that all things which the Lord hath done is for the furtherance of the Gospel and that those which are approved may be made manifest what a strong ground of occasion would the envious one have thought he had if he had come among the babes in Christ who were met together at Corinth hearing Paul say that there was divisions among them and said that there must be heresies among them that they which are approved may be made manifest 1 Cor. 18. 19. and this was no character that God had broken them without hands no● that he had made their profession of unity of no force but through this manifestation he did work schism out of the body that so there should be no Schism Rent Heresie nor any such thing in the body and this thing was not that the enemies of God might glory against the truth and if any labour to seek occasion against the holy Brethren and say they are divided into Heads because two eminent men of them withstood one another as concerning eating with the Gentiles viz. Paul and Peter to such I say he that gathered at first into unity is the Healer and Repairer of such breaches and they may professe and witnesse as much unity after this as ever before And th●se three which the envious one hath mentioned to be at difference in Doctrine and practice viz. G. F. J N. and J. B. the unity in the life and power of God in them and in their Doctrine and