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A86599 An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop. Houghton, Aylmer. 1658 (1658) Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689 240,876 351

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liberty_n to_o swerve_v from_o these_o primitive_a practice_n etc._n etc._n 4._o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant●_n be_v of_o that_o weight_n with_o the_o paedobaptist_n that_o you_o must_v b●ing_v more_o convince_a argument_n than_o you_o have_v yet_o do_v to_o take_v they_o off_o from_o that_o custom_n as_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o baptise_v mr._n cradock_n to_o who_o mr._n baxter_n refer_v you_o tell_v you_o 4._o you_o gospel-liberty_n p._n 2d_o &_o 4._o i_o hat_n christ_n have_v not_o make_v baptism_n such_o a_o ordinance_n as_o that_o in_o all_o climate_n and_o countries-and_a region_n they_o must_v go_v over_o head_n and_o ear_n in_o a_o river_n etc._n etc._n sect_n 22._o h._n h._n you_o say_v that_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o infant-baptism_n be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n as_o high_a as_o to_o the_o apostle_n as_o there_o be_v many_o sufficient_a history_n extant_a inform_v we_o and_o that_o the_o defer_v of_o baptism_n come_v in_o with_o the_o rest_n 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not_o so_o believe_v 3._o you_o distinguish_v foolish_o between_o faith_n and_o obedidience_n for_o faith_n itself_o be_v a_o obediential_a act_n it_o be_v call_v the_o obedience_n of_o faith_n loc_n faith_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e_fw-la ut_fw-la homines_fw-la fide_fw-la obediant_fw-la deo_fw-la beza_n in_o loc_n rom._n 1.5_o &_o 16.26_o and_o to_o believe_v be_v to_o obey_v as_o appear●_n by_o the_o opposition_n joh_n 3.36_o 〈◊〉_d 3.36_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o that_o believe_v not_o the_o son_n i._n e._n he_o that_o obei_v not_o the_o son_n as_o beza_n translate_v it_o and_o child_n of_o unbelief_n be_v call_v eph._n 22_o child_n of_o disobedience_n 4._o it_o seem_v by_o your_o confession_n that_o your_o word_n whereby_o you_o express_v yourself_o do_v not_o pertain_v to_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n and_o obedience_n 5._o i_o wonder_v you_o daresay_n that_o you_o put_v not_o man_n on_o believe_v or_o do_v any_o thing_n as_o a_o duty_n that_o be_v not_o write_v in_o scripture_n for_o do_v you_o not_o put_v man_n to_o believe_v that_o infant_n be_v neither_o disciple_n nor_o church-member_n nor_o in_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n that_o they_o die_v in_o their_o infancy_n be_v save_v by_o christ_n death_n without_o actual_a faith_n pag._n 61._o and_o have_v you_o not_o right_o prove_v pray_v in_o a_o man_n family_n give_v thanks_o at_o meal_n woman_n receive_n the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n to_o be_v duty_n yet_o none_o of_o the_o foresay_a particular_n be_v express_o write_v in_o scripture_n and_o will_v you_o have_v they_o do_v but_o not_o in_o faith_n sect_n 53._o h._n h._n herein_o lie_v the_o depth_n of_o all_o deceit_n viz._n because_o christ_n expound_v the_o scripture_n of_o the_o prophet_n therefore_o man_n will_v take_v in_o hand_n to_o expound_v his_o exposition_n q._n we_o can_v make_v they_o plain_o than_o he_o have_v leave_v they_o or_o make_v any_o thing_n true_a that_o be_v not_o write_v in_o they_o and_o because_o philip_n 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