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a_o image_n which_o be_v no_o god_n be_v all_o one_o kind_n of_o formal_a idolatry_n wherefore_o dr._n st._n since_o he_o assent_v to_o this_o doctrine_n parallel_n the_o veneration_n of_o image_n practise_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o the_o worship_n of_o false_a god_n and_o look_n upon_o they_o both_o as_o one_o kind_n of_o formal_a idolatry_n and_o certain_o the_o worship_n of_o false_a god_n as_o reject_v the_o true_a god_n be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n for_o what_o idolatry_n be_v so_o if_o this_o be_v not_o in_o the_o same_o pag._n he_o pretend_v to_o show_v that_o the_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o the_o world_n be_v excusable_a on_o the_o same_o ground_n whereon_o we_o excuse_v from_o idolatry_n the_o veneration_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n which_o he_o compare_v with_o the_o idolatry_n of_o those_o who_o say_v christ_n be_v the_o sun_n and_o he_o add_v pag._n 136._o that_o the_o absurdity_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v great_a than_o of_o that_o doctrine_n which_o teach_v the_o sun_n to_o be_v god_n and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o call_v it_o as_o venial_a a_o fault_n the_o worship_v that_o for_o the_o true_a god_n which_o be_v not_o so_o such_o be_v the_o idolatry_n he_o father_n upon_o we_o and_o term_n it_o the_o superstition_n of_o a_o undue_a way_n of_o worship_v as_o the_o worship_v false_a god_n which_o he_o style_v the_o superstitian_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n and_o pag._n 137._o he_o say_v thus_o the_o most_o stupid_a and_o senseless_a of_o all_o idolater_n who_o worship_n the_o very_a image_n for_o god_n which_o the_o wise_a among_o the_o heathen_n according_a to_o his_o judgement_n always_o disalow_v be_v in_o truth_n the_o most_o excusable_a upon_o this_o ground_n upon_o which_o we_o excuse_v from_o idolatry_n the_o veneration_n we_o give_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n and_o by_o consequence_n the_o idolatry_n he_o father_n upon_o we_o in_o this_o matter_n be_v in_o his_o opinion_n worse_o and_o less_o excusable_a than_o the_o most_o stupid_a and_o senseless_a idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n in_o the_o page_n immediate_o before_o he_o compare_v our_o veneration_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n with_o the_o egyptian_n worship_v the_o sun_n for_o god_n and_o the_o israelite_n the_o golden_a calf_n believe_v it_o be_v the_o true_a god_n pag._n 142_o 143._o speak_v of_o the_o veneration_n the_o roman_a church_n allow_v to_o saint_n he_o add_v i_o will_v willing_o understand_v why_o i_o may_v not_o as_o well_o honour_n god_n by_o give_v worship_n to_o the_o sun_n as_o to_o ignatius_n loyola_n or_o st._n francis_n or_o any_o other_o of_o the_o late_a cannonized_a saint_n and_o why_o do_v he_o not_o speak_v of_o the_o b._n virgin_n mary_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o st._n augustine_n and_o of_o other_o ancient_a saint_n since_o he_o equal_o impugn_v the_o veneration_n of_o all_o saint_n the_o reason_n he_o add_v be_v excellent_a i_o be_o sure_a say_v he_o the_o sun_n be_v a_o certain_a monument_n of_o god_n goodness_n and_o i_o can_v be_v mistake_v therein_o but_o i_o can_v never_o be_v certain_a of_o the_o holiness_n of_o those_o person_n viz._n the_o late_a cannonized_a saint_n for_o all_o that_o i_o can_v know_v ignatius_n loyola_n be_v a_o great_a hypocrite_n but_o i_o be_o sure_a that_o the_o sun_n be_v none_o i_o know_v the_o best_a of_o man_n have_v their_o corruption_n and_o to_o what_o degree_n it_o be_v impossible_a for_o other_o to_o understand_v but_o i_o be_o certain_a the_o spot_n of_o the_o sun_n be_v no_o moral_a impurity_n nor_o displease_v to_o god_n how_o frivolous_a this_o reason_n be_v will_v clear_o appear_v by_o this_o instance_n dr._n st._n will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o some_o reverence_n respect_n esteem_v and_o veneration_n may_v be_v give_v in_o this_o life_n to_o man_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o holiness_n sanctity_n and_o honesty_n of_o life_n and_o that_o one_o may_v here_o upon_o earth_n implore_v the_o 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answer_n dr._n st._n shall_v give_v to_o this_o instance_n will_v solve_v the_o objection_n he_o make_v against_o we_o for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o sun_n be_v as_o uncapable_a to_o understand_v or_o to_o be_v make_v to_o understand_v our_o address_n or_o to_o intercede_v for_o we_o or_o to_o lead_v a_o moral_a honest_a life_n as_o a_o cat_n or_o a_o dog_n but_o dr._n st._n know_v too_o well_o that_o it_o be_v not_o for_o his_o interest_n to_o consider_v the_o incoherency_n of_o his_o principle_n or_o the_o train_n of_o absurdity_n which_o common_o wait_v upon_o his_o argument_n yet_o for_o our_o present_a intent_n it_o be_v enough_o to_o show_v that_o the_o idolatry_n he_o endeavour_v to_o fasten_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n which_o she_o allow_v of_o be_v in_o his_o persuasion_n as_o bad_a or_o worse_o than_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sun_n page_n 159._o he_o make_v a_o large_a parallel_n between_o the_o veneration_n that_o roman_a catholic_n afford_v to_o saint_n and_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n in_o sacrifice_v to_o their_o inferior_a deity_n or_o hero_n do_v the_o israelite_n say_v he_o use_v solemn_a ceremony_n of_o make_v any_o capable_a of_o divine_a worship_n so_o do_v the_o roman_a church_n do_v they_o set_v up_o their_o image_n in_o public_a place_n of_o worship_n and_o then_o kneel_v down_o before_o they_o and_o invocate_v those_o represent_v by_o they_o so_o do_v the_o roman_a church_n do_v they_o consecrate_v temple_n and_o erect_v altar_n to_o they_o and_o keep_v festival_n and_o burn_v incense_n before_o they_o so_o do_v the_o roman_a church_n last_o do_v they_o offer_v up_o sacrifice_n in_o those_o temple_n to_o the_o honour_n of_o their_o lesser_a deity_n or_o hero_n so_o do_v the_o roman_a church_n whence_o it_o appear_v that_o dr._n st._n do_v hold_v we_o for_o as_o great_a idolater_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o honour_n we_o afford_v to_o saint_n as_o the_o heathen_n be_v in_o adore_v 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