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A59660 The church-membership of children, and their right to baptisme according to that holy and everlasting covenant of God, established between Himself and the faithfull ... cleared up in a letter, sent unto a worthy friend of the author ... / by Thomas Shepard ... Shepard, Thomas, 1605-1649. 1663 (1663) Wing S3108; ESTC R14745 40,639 50

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Passages citing the thesis of Suarez the Iesuit viz that any body whosoever that 〈◊〉 speak and wash may be a sufficient Minister of Baptisme whether he be man or woman believer or unbeliever baptised or not baptized if so be he know how to wash and utter the Words with a due mention haec assertio saith the Jesuit est omnino certa But saith Chamier in the name of the Orthodox we teach the contrary viz. that the right of conferring Baptisme belongs to those only who are publick Officers in the Church c. which accordingly he there makes good against the Papists 7 Baily the Iesuite whom Rivet encountereth to the Question between the Orthodox and the Papist viz. Whether the Infants of believers are holy before Baptisme he answereth roundly for them NO Rivet Cath. Orthod Tract 3. q 3. And touching that famous place controverted between our selves and the Anabap●●sts in regard of their wresting and perverting the sence of that Scripture 1 Cor. 7.14 ●ls● w●r● your Children unclean but now they are Holy we may observe how they tread in ehe steps of the Papists that have gone before them therein as they likewiso do in that noted Scripture Col 2.11 12. not allowing Baptisme to answer Circumcision according to the mind and meaning of the Holy-Ghost wherein see Ames against them Bel. Enerv. Tom. 3. l 1. Ca● 4. Thes. 13. and Rivet in Gen. 17 Exercit 88. Pag. 340. c. Take a tast of that 1 Cor. 7. as followeth Baily the Jesuit before Cited ibid quest 3. laboureth thus to avoid the dint of that text The Apostle saith he either speaks of a civil Sanctification before men that the Infants should not be ILLEGITAMATE or BASTARDS or else of an Instrumental Sanctification because that one shall procure the Salvation of the other c. the like we find of Bellarmine's apprehention and Judgment of the sence of that Scripture Such Children saith he are said to be not unclean that is Infamous and BASTARDS but holy that is LEGITIMATE and free from civil ignominie Ames Ibid. Lib. 2. C. 1. Thes. 6. The Rhemists also very perniciously abuse this Scripture and are not therein without their Antipaedobaptisticall followers Blessed Cartwright excellently upon the place in his confutation of their annotations on the new-Testament defend's this cause of Christ against their Popish glosses It is saith he one thing oftentimes in the Scripture to be Sanctified and another to be holy as for you you err in both for when it is said the unbelieving party is Sanctified by the believing it is not only meant as you say that the Marriage is an occasion of the Sanctification to the infidel party but that the use of the infidel party in Marriage company is Sanctified or made holy and lawfull unto the believing party as meat and drink is said to be Sanctified unto us by the word Prayer 1 Tim. 4.5 and as your Interpretation here is short so in the exposition of the Holiness of the Children which are begotten in this Matrimony it is utterly false and first it is to be observed that the Apostle speaking of the Children doth not as you do apply one word of them to both saying that they are Sanctified but saith that they are holy which is more then he had spoken before of the infidel party for although our meat and drink be Sanctified unto us and that the use of them is holy to those which are holy yet the meats and drinks themselves are not holy if therefore you were short in the interpretation of Sanctified you fail much more in giving the same exposition unto the holiness of the children for if the holiness here spoken of be not in the children when they are begotten and born of the Parents but come unto them afterward by Baptisme and Faith there groweth no sufficient comfort unto the faithfull party to continue in marriage with the Infidel consid●ring that occasion of holiness might come otherw●se then by marriage For that which is able to uphold the faithfull in comfort and strength to abide in marriage with the infidel is the knowledg that the Children begotten in that Marriage are in Covenant and are Children of Gods favour and grace washed in Christs Bloud and Sanctified by his Spirit and if you will know what this Holyness of Children new-born is the Apostle telleth you Gal. 2.15 That it is through the Covenant to be a Iew by nature or birth and if you will yet further understand what the Holyness of Children is the Apostle in the same place telleth you that it is not to be Sinners by Nature as those which are born of the Heathen for as much as their sins who are in Covenant are by Christ not reckoned unto them And this Doctrine of the Holyness of the Children which are born of the Faithfull if you could not attain unto it is so sensibly s●t forth unto you that unless together with the knowledg of the Truth you are also bereaved of your common sence you cannot be ignorant of it for how can you but understand that if the root be holy the branch is holy Rom. 11.16 and if the first fruits be holy the whole crop is holy All which privilidges of Children new-born sometime being proper to the Iewes are now our priviledges as well as theirs sithence we are grown int● one body w●th them Ephes. 2.15 and being Burgesse● of the same Heavenly City that they are must needs have the same infranchisement and Prerogatives t●●t they have not that every one which is ●orn under the Covenant is holy but t●●t they are so to be taken of the Church until the contrary do manifestly appear c. By the premises we may see therefore whence even from that MOTHER of harlots probably this Illegitimate birth this antichrist an fl●ud of Anab●●t●●me hath issued forth yea and I also fear is l●ke to be ●●sed and maintained ●n it's course unt●l God hath dried up those breast and rive●s of spiritual Babylon in the mean while Calvins admonition touching Anabapt●sme may not be unseasonable meri ò debet nobis esse suspectum quicquid à tali officina proa●erit Opuscu● ●n Psychopannychia Pag. 411. S. M. There are some who though they graunt the Baptisme of some Children yet utterly deny the continuance of that Covenant-mercy of God to their succeeding Generations though the Church-society whereof they were Members be not dissolved nor the surviveing posterity so much as deserve to be by the Discipline of Christ in his Church excommunicated This seems in truth to arise f●om their not acknowledging sufficiently or not abiding by the true genuine grounds of the Baptisme of those whose right to Baptisme is acknowledged by them For the information therefore of the minds of the weak and stablishing their hearts in this Truth of God according to the Scriptures even in the Doctrine of P●●dobaptisme a Doctrine of so great concernment and of so much comfort and incouragement
both to believing parents their children not in life only but in death whence it is that they only can be preserved against sorrowing when they fall asleep as others do which have no hope This ensuing Treatise is at the earnest request of many worthy freinds to the Author of it of blessed memory now published wherein we may see both 1. The Membership of the Children of Church-Members proved to be of Divine institution and likewise 2. among other things The continuance of the Membership of those Children in particular Churches when they are grown up even until they are excōmunicated unless there be a dissolution of the person by death or of the Church-society So that this latter is not a principle of Innovation and Apostacy but as it was the Judgment of the Author of this following Letter as is therein to be seen and to manifest which was one speciall end of the Printing thereof so was it the light which others have held forth who in their time were Stars not of the smallest magnitude whom we have here seen sometimes shining with him in Christs right hand but are now set and shining with that Sun of righteousness in another World That there is no cessation of the membership of a person in this or that particular Church the Church whereof he i● a m●mber continuing in b●ing together with the person himselfe unles it be by meanes of a Church-act intervening is a truth of no small importance And therefore as for that notion which doth obtain with some That in particular Churches of Christ walking in the order of the Gospel there are such as become Ecclesiastically Felones de se that is such Church-members who by their scandalous sin do become their own executioners Ecclesiastically cutting themselves off from the Church so as that they thereby become actually non-members and that the Church hath no more power over them either Ecclesiasticallly to admonish them or Excommunicate them this seem's unto me to be but an humane invention and not of Divine institution yea in truth destructive to the Order of the Gospel And therefore to apply it as to members in full communion so to these Children of the Church whom we now speak of is not of God as may appear by these reasons following 1. Because it is unscriptural In matters of Gods worship a negative argument is conclvsive if that which is asserted be not contained in the Scripture expresly or 〈◊〉 the consequence therefrom it is to be rejected To the Law and by the Testimony The Scriptures alledged by som●●●d thought to favour this notion of Felones de se are only such as do but lay down before us the sinns of some Church-members and do not speak of the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 punishment or censure as 't is called 2 Cor. 2.6 which in such cases is to be inflicted and therefore are not ad rem only that which seem's to have most weight in it and to which therefore I shall breifly reply is that in Acts 8.21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter Answer I would not say that this text propounded with reference the children of the Church that are not in full cōmunion is not apposite because the text speak's of a member in full communion though to say so much is accounted by some a sufficient answer to such Scripture arguments as conclude against felones de se from Church-members that are in full Cōmunion quatenus Church-members to such Church members as are not in full communion But yet having gained this fort that what is in Scripture spoken of a member in full communion is applicable as farr as meer membership reachet● to a member that is not in full cōmunion we may now the more easily proceed in the after discourse To this Scripture then ●lledged for children of the Church not in full communion by their sin when adult to become felones de se as above said I answer 1. That the objection from hence tend's as much to frustrate the Church act or censure of excommunication upon members infull communion and makes that ordinance of Christ vain needless to the parents in full cōmunion as to these children 2. These words of the Apostle Peter were indeed a dreadfull admonition and the Apostle being a Church Officer did judg this sinner to deserve it for his simonie so that he was not granting the cessation of his membership felo de se. 3. By this matter spoken of in the text seem's most properly to be meant not Church-membership but the power of giving the holy Ghost spoken of in the context which power Simon Magus would have bought with money and for which the Apostle rebukes him and therefore his not having part or lot in that matter is to be understood directly with relation to that Extraordinary power the Apostle would have him k●ow that he should not share in such a power or priviledge as that was 4. I would ask whether if a Member of a church be discovered not to have his heart right in the sight of God but to be in the Gall of bitterness and bond of Iniquity stand conv●ct of Simonie and the wickedness be so grosly aggravated as this Scandal of Symon Magus was I say whether the Church is not bound to bear witness against such an offender by inflicting some Church-Censure properly so taken upon him if it be said ●oe then may it not be questioned whether such a Church would not as well tolerate any other pollutions and defilements in it whatsoever The wofull fruit whereof who is there that doth not easily perceive On the other side if it be said yea that the Church is to Censure and Authoritatively to put away from among themselves such a wicked person by excommunication I then demand if this notion of felo de se be right and sound how they can excommunicate one who is a non-Member before the Church can pass the sentence of excommunication against him whether doth this Scripture Act. 8.21 give the Church power over him by it's Discipline to censure him who already as the objection speak's hath cut himself off from being a Church-Member or whether the Church hath any part in him who hath no part or lot in them or in these matters 2. Scripture Example lead's us to what is contrary to this Felon●● spoken of witness under the old-Testament Ishmael's being cast out by Abraham who was the chief Officer in that family Church So the incestuous person under the New-Testament is not felo de s● though guilty of such a sin as was not so much as named among the Ge●●iles 1 Cor. 5.1 but there is a Church act intervening his sin and the cessation of his Memberly-Communion with that Church viz a delivering him 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 such a one unto Satan Hence as the Church of Ephesus is commended for not bearing with them which are evill Rev. 2.2 so the Church of Th●a●ira is rebuked for