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A10240 A rejoynder unto William Malone's reply to the first article Wherein the founders of unwritten traditions are confounded, out of the sure foundation of Scripture, and the true tradition of the Church. By Roger Puttocke, minister of Gods word at Novan. Puttock, Roger. 1632 (1632) STC 20520; ESTC S100925 167,226 214

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examine_v sect_n iii_o whether_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n 1._o none_o but_o a_o non_fw-la ens_fw-la will_v say_v that_o a_o non_fw-fr ens_fw-la can_v be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n when_o as_o bellarmine_n confess_v that_o ●_o that_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr ●er●o_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n ●_o all_o tradition_n be_v not_o of_o equal_a authority_n among_o themselves_o but_o without_o any_o distinction_n whatsoever_o this_o jesuite_n will_v have_v they_o all_o to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o authority_n among_o themselves_o and_o of_o the_o same_o authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v they_o be_v no_o more_o worthy_a to_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o write_a word_n than_o 28._o than_o jer._n 13._o 28._o chaff_n with_o wheat_n than_o dross_n with_o ●2_n with_o be_v 1._o ●2_n silver_n the_o jesuite_n have_v already_o grant_v this_o 116._o this_o pag._n 116._o that_o the_o rite_n and_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n be_v ground_v only_o upon_o humane_a right_n and_o now_o he_o contradict_v the_o same_o that_o they_o be_v of_o divine_a right_n even_o equal_a with_o the_o write_a word_n and_o for_o this_o opinion_n he_o 120._o reply_v p._n 120._o boast_v of_o plain_a scripture_n and_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o ancient_a father_n it_o be_v no_o new_a thing_n to_o hear_v the_o enemy_n of_o the_o truth_n claim_v the_o scripture_n and_o the_o father_n to_o be_v they_o after_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o heretic_n boast_v that_o 27._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb_n l._n 5._o hist_o c._n 27._o the_o father_n and_o the_o apostle_n hold_v &_o teach_v the_o same_o thing_n which_o they_o say_v first_o let_v we_o hear_v his_o plain_a scripture_n 15._o scripture_n ●_o thes_n ●_o 15._o therefore_o brethren_n stand_v fast_o and_o hold_v the_o tradition_n which_o you_o have_v be_v teach_v whether_o by_o word_n or_o by_o our_o epistle_n this_o text_n be_v no_o 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to_o stand_v &_o to_o persevere_v in_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o gretzer_n your_o great_a sire_n defend_v bellarmine_n defend_v this_o interpretation_n that_o it_o may_v be_v the_o same_o doctrine_n which_o s._n paul_n deliver_v by_o word_n of_o mouth_n and_o by_o epistle_n and_o give_v this_o instance_n for_o it_o 5_o it_o sicut_fw-la eadem_fw-la fides_fw-la quae_fw-la confirmata_fw-la olim_fw-la fuit_fw-la per_fw-la circumcisionem_fw-la &_o pascha_fw-la quae_fw-la nunc_fw-la confirmatur_fw-la per_fw-la baptismum_fw-la &_o coenam_fw-la gretz_n defence_n bellarm._n l._n 4._o c._n 5_o even_o as_o it_o be_v the_o same_o faith_n which_o be_v former_o confirm_v by_o circumcision_n and_o the_o passeover_n which_o be_v now_o confirm_v by_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n it_o be_v most_o manifest_a by_o the_o precedent_a word_n that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o such_o tradition_n as_o help_v to_o keep_v out_o 3._o out_o 2._o thess_n 2._o 3._o the_o man_n of_o sin_n the_o son_n of_o perdition_n it_o can_v then_o be_v that_o he_o shall_v speak_v of_o unwritten_a tradition_n because_o popish_a tradition_n be_v the_o only_a key_n to_o let_v he_o in_o 2._o to_o prove_v the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n he_o first_o allege_v s._n chrysostome_n thess_n chrysostome_n chrysost_n in_fw-ge ●_o thess_n by_o this_o say_n of_o s._n paul_n it_o be_v manifest_a say_v s._n chrysostome_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o 121._o reply_v pag._n 121._o deliver_v all_o thing_n by_o their_o epistle_n but_o that_o they_o deliver_v many_o thing_n without_o writing_n which_o be_v as_o worthy_a to_o be_v believe_v as_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o leave_v write_v we_o yield_v unto_o this_o that_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o deliver_v all_o thing_n by_o writing_n and_o i_o will_v grant_v more_o unto_o the_o jesuite_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o deliver_v all_o thing_n by_o epistle_n or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n which_o be_v and_o may_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n as_o all_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n of_o it_o and_o those_o be_v the_o thing_n of_o which_o s._n chrysostome_n speak_v of_o thing_n indifferent_a concern_v necessary_a thing_n write_v upon_o the_o same_o chapter_n these_o be_v his_o word_n ●_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n hom_n 3_o in_o 2._o thes_n ●_o all_o thing_n be_v clear_a and_o true_a which_o be_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n all_o necessary_a thing_n be_v manifest_a but_o that_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o necessary_a and_o be_v deliver_v without_o writing_n shall_v be_v as_o worthy_a of_o faith_n as_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v this_o be_v one_o of_o his_o many_o hyperbolical_a speech_n it_o be_v rather_o a_o flourish_n of_o his_o rhetoric_n than_o a_o truth_n in_o divinity_n s._n basil_n say_v 29._o say_v basil_n de_fw-fr spirit_n sanct._n c._n 29._o i_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a doctrine_n that_o reply_n reply_n we_o adhere_v unto_o unwritten_a 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fabulous_a novelty_n than_o epiphanius_n especial_o in_o genealogy_n into_o which_o it_o be_v probable_a he_o be_v mislead_v through_o his_o overmuch_o love_n of_o historical_a tradition_n he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o tell_v who_o be_v astaroth_n be_v heracles_n and_o astaroth_n melchizedecks_n father_n and_o mother_n and_o who_o be_v the_o wife_n of_o bartheno●_n of_o sanue_n asura_n bartheno●_n cain_n seth_n and_o noah_n these_o be_v some_o of_o his_o fabulous_a novelty_n ground_v upon_o tradition_n without_o any_o authority_n of_o scripture_n for_o which_o he_o deserve_v to_o be_v censure_v we_o be_v will_v rather_o to_o cover_v then_o to_o discover_v the_o nakedness_n of_o this_o father_n and_o therefore_o favourable_o interpret_v his_o word_n that_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n that_o be_v their_o preach_n and_o the_o succession_n of_o true_a doctrine_n both_o which_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o limit_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o bound_n of_o our_o faith_n this_o be_v consonant_a with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o other_o father_n sacerdot_n father_n ●criptura_fw-la est_fw-la murn_v adamantinus_fw-la circum_fw-la vallen●●eclefiam_fw-la chrysoft_a l._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacerdot_n the_o scripture_n say_v chrysostome_n be_v a_o adamantine_a wall_n environ_v the_o church_n the_o church_n say_v hierome_n mich._n hierome_n ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la egressa_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la fi●●bus_fw-la suis_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr scripture_n sanctis_fw-la hiero●_n l_o ●_o c._n ●_o in_o mich._n be_v not_o go_v out_o of_o her_o bound_n that_o be_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n irenaeus_n tell_v we_o first_o that_o 2._o that_o iren_n l._n 3._o c._n 2._o heretic_n can_v possible_o be_v convince_v by_o only_a scripture_n 5._o i_o tell_v you_o that_o you_o belie_v this_o father_n this_o be_v all_o that_o he_o say_v when_o heretic_n be_v convince_v by_o the_o scripture_n reply_n reply_n they_o begin_v to_o accuse_v the_o scripture_n 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the_o apostle_n deliver_v some_o mystery_n unto_o timothy_n will_v he_o to_o open_v they_o not_o to_o all_o by_o writing_n but_o to_o choice_n man_n who_o may_v teach_v they_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n unto_o other_o 6._o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n do_v the_o heretic_n of_o old_a allege_v this_o text_n and_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o church_n for_o it_o as_o tertullian_n 25._o tertullian_n tertul._n de_fw-fr prescript_n c._n 25._o bear_v witness_v timothy_n hear_v paul_n doctrine_n both_o by_o his_o preach_n and_o by_o his_o writing_n the_o many_o witness_n of_o his_o doctrine_n be_v 11._o be_v act._n 26._o 11._o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n as_o he_o testify_v of_o himself_o and_o sundry_a aquinas_n sundry_a anselm_n bruno_n aquinas_n interpreter_n so_o expound_v this_o place_n the_o same_o doctrine_n he_o will_v have_v timothy_n to_o teach_v unto_o faithful_a man_n not_o because_o they_o be_v such_o mystery_n as_o be_v unfit_a to_o be_v open_v unto_o all_o by_o writing_n but_o 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charitate_fw-la praeditos_fw-la patres_fw-la episcopos_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la compulit_fw-la saluâ_fw-la pa●●_n discep●●re_v aug._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr bapt_n con_fw-mi donat._n c._n 7_o the_o obscurity_n of_o this_o question_n in_o the_o former_a time_n of_o the_o church_n even_o before_o the_o schism_n of_o donatus_n cause_v great_a man_n and_o man_n abundant_a in_o charity_n even_o father_n and_o bishop_n to_o differ_v among_o themselves_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n not_o be_v break_v say_v s._n augustine_n howsoever_o we_o distinguish_v between_o the_o precept_n and_o the_o practice_n between_o the_o doctrine_n and_o example_n of_o the_o doctrine_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o s._n augustine_n speak_v of_o the_o practice_n or_o example_n although_o no_o example_n hereof_o be_v bring_v out_o of_o holy_a scripture_n etc._n etc._n and_o though_o we_o find_v not_o the_o example_n of_o this_o doctrine_n whether_o those_o have_v be_v rebaptise_v who_o be_v first_o baptize_v by_o the_o heretic_n as_o we_o read_v not_o whether_o those_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o murderer_n and_o adulterer_n have_v be_v baptize_v again_o or_o no_o yet_o the_o precept_n or_o doctrine_n may_v be_v and_o be_v sufficient_o declare_v in_o many_o place_n of_o scripture_n by_o sound_a inference_n although_o it_o be_v not_o express_o write_v those_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o heretic_n shall_v not_o be_v baptize_v again_o the_o next_o testimony_n concern_v the_o same_o point_n 1●_n point_n aug._n 〈…〉_o de_fw-fr bapt._n count_v donat_n c._n 1●_n the_o apostle_n command_v nothing_o hereof_o yet_o the_o reply_n reply_n custom_n which_o be_v herein_o oppose_v against_o cyprian_a be_v to_o be_v believe_v to_o proceed_v from_o their_o tradition_n even_o as_o many_o thing_n be_v which_o the_o church_n handle_v and_o be_v therefore_o well_o believe_v to_o be_v command_v of_o the_o apostle_n although_o they_o be_v not_o write_v and_o unto_o it_o we_o return_v the_o same_o answer_n that_o 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commend_v cyprian_n 16._o cyprian_n quod_fw-la autem_fw-la n●●_n admonet_fw-la ut_fw-la ad_fw-la fon●●m_fw-la recurramus_fw-la id_fw-la optimum_fw-la est_fw-la aug_n l._n 5._o de_fw-fr bapt._n cont_n donat._n c._n 16._o because_o he_o will_v have_v recourse_n in_o this_o unto_o the_o fountain_n etc._n etc._n for_o that_o be_v the_o best_a course_n and_o by_o this_o authority_n draw_v out_o of_o the_o fountain_n 5●_n fountain_n ephes_n 4._o 5●_n there_o be_v one_o lord_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n he_o confute_v his_o opinion_n and_o not_o only_o by_o one_o but_o 1._o but_o adjunctis_fw-la scriptura●m_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la ostendimus_fw-la aug._n l._n 6._o c._n 1._o we_o prove_v it_o by_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n heap_v together_o say_v s._n augustine_n and_o in_o the_o chapter_n allege_v by_o the_o jesuite_n thus_o he_o write_v ●3_n write_v contra_fw-la mandatum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la veni●ntes_fw-la ab_fw-la haereticis_fw-la si_fw-la jam_fw-la ab_fw-la illis_fw-la baptismum_fw-la christi_fw-la acceperint_fw-la bapti●antur_fw-la quia_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la sanctarum_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la ostenditur_fw-la sed_fw-la planè_fw-la ostenditur_fw-la mul●os_fw-la pseudo-christianos_a quamvis_fw-la non_fw-la habeant_fw-la ●andem_fw-la charitatem_fw-la cum_fw-la sanctis_fw-la sine_fw-la quâ_fw-la nihil_fw-la prosunt_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la sancta_fw-la habere_fw-la potuerint_fw-la baptismum_fw-la tamen_fw-la ●om●u●●●_n habere_fw-la cum_fw-la ●ancti●_n aug._n l._n 5._o c._n ●3_n it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o commandment_n that_o those_o shall_v be_v rebaptise_v which_o return_v from_o the_o heretic_n if_o they_o have_v the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n because_o it_o be_v not_o only_o prove_v but_o plain_o prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o holy_a scripture_n that_o many_o false_a christian_n may_v have_v the_o same_o baptism_n with_o they_o although_o they_o have_v not_o the_o same_o charity_n with_o the_o saint_n without_o which_o the_o holy_a thing_n which_o they_o have_v can_v profit_v they_o by_o this_o clause_n if_o they_o have_v the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n he_o
which_o i_o will_v brief_o repeat_v by_o the_o majesty_n of_o the_o speaker_n by_o the_o title_n of_o the_o book_n by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o doctrine_n in_o the_o conscience_n by_o the_o simplicity_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o stile_n by_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o prediction_n by_o the_o agreement_n in_o all_o thing_n though_o write_v by_o sundry_a person_n in_o sundry_a place_n and_o at_o sundry_a time_n by_o the_o perfection_n of_o it_o and_o by_o the_o testimony_n which_o our_o saviour_n give_v unto_o the_o 27._o the_o luc._n 24._o 27._o old_a testament_n 16._o testament_n 2._o pet._n ●_o 16._o s._n peter_n to_o the_o epistle_n of_o s._n paul_n and_o s._n paul_n to_o the_o whole_a 17._o whole_a 2._o tim._n 3._o 17._o scripture_n by_o all_o these_o it_o be_v more_o than_o probable_a and_o credible_a that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n these_o be_v sufficient_a argument_n to_o beget_v a_o acquire_v faith_n in_o any_o man_n if_o the_o 4._o the_o 2._o cor._n 4._o 4._o god_n of_o this_o world_n have_v not_o blind_v his_o eye_n so_o that_o he_o can_v 1●_n can_v psal_n 119._o 1●_n see_v the_o wonderful_a thing_n contain_v in_o the_o law_n the_o natural_a man_n be_v blind_a and_o 14._o and_o 1._o cor._n 2._o 14._o perceive_v not_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n by_o his_o active_a understanding_n neither_o can_v he_o conceive_v they_o by_o his_o passive_a understanding_n although_o they_o be_v most_o evident_o reveal_v and_o therefore_o god_n work_v in_o his_o own_o a_o infuse_a faith_n and_o open_v their_o eye_n that_o they_o may_v see_v and_o believe_v this_o truth_n there_o be_v 80._o be_v in_o scripture_n est_fw-la sol_fw-la justitiae_fw-la august_n in_o psal_n 80._o in_o the_o scripture_n the_o sun_n of_o righteousness_n as_o s._n augustine_n say_v a_o blind_a man_n can_v see_v this_o sun_n no_o more_o than_o a_o blind_a man_n can_v see_v the_o sun_n in_o the_o heaven_n as_o therefore_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o body_n must_v be_v light_n that_o it_o may_v see_v the_o sun_n so_o must_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v spiritual_o illuminate_v that_o it_o may_v see_v this_o sun_n of_o righteousness_n this_o be_v wrought_v outward_o by_o the_o word_n which_o 8._o which_o psal_n 19_o 8._o give_v light_n unto_o the_o eye_n and_o inward_o by_o the_o spirit_n which_o 11._o which_o 1._o cor._n 2._o 11._o only_o know_v the_o thing_n of_o god_n and_o work_v this_o by_o 1._o by_o origen_n de_fw-fr principijs_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 1._o work_v upon_o the_o spirit_n and_o the_o understanding_n as_o ovigen_n say_v and_o when_o the_o heart_n be_v purify_v that_o a_o man_n do_v the_o will_n of_o god_n than_o he_o shall_v 17._o shall_v joh._n 7._o 17._o know_v whether_o the_o doctrine_n be_v of_o god_n or_o no._n and_o as_o a_o friend_n know_v the_o voice_n of_o his_o friend_n so_o the_o spouse_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o sheep_n of_o christ_n know_v his_o 4._o his_o cant._n ●_o ●_o joh._n 10._o 4._o voice_n these_o be_v the_o mean_n by_o which_o 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