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A20187 The opening of heauen gates, or The ready way to euerlasting life Deliuered in a most familier dialogue, betweene reason and religion, touching predestination, Gods word, and mans free-will, to the vnderstanding of the weakest capacitie, and the confirming of the more strong. By Arthur Dent, preacher of the word of God, at South-Shoobery in Essex. Dent, Arthur, d. 1607. 1610 (1610) STC 6619; ESTC S116579 52,599 137

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God is the only Author of the Scripture yet certainely by none other mean the● by the secret testimonie of y● holy Ghost are our barts truely perswaded that it is the word of God for saith y● Apostle that which we preach is the word of faith And in another place the whole Scripture saith he is giuē by the inspiratiō of God Reas But what doe you say to those sel lowes that account the scripture a dou●sed or positiue law made for ciuill gouernment onely and authorised by Antiquity as if it were the diuine word of God least man not beeing restrained of the heddinesse o● his own affections by some other terrour then that of corporal punishment should not yeeld himselfe vnto necessary order Rel. For my part I haue little to say t● those Monsters neither by the grace ● God in any society will I haue to doe with them but my praier shal be that the ●ord will sodenly turne their hearts or ● his good timt pay them their iust de●rts Truely of this sort of mē I thanke God in all my daies although I haue ●ard of many did I neuer know more ●en thrée which if it had pleased the ●ord were to many by two and one these ●rée were naturall bretherēn men ma●●lous politique insundry sciences and ●orldly wise but we the iudgements of God the two ●ounge● were hanged not many yeares since iustly condemned for ●●gh ●reason and the third being the elder ●rother was taken in adultery and with ● knife ●iabbed in and slaine by the hands of his owne wife and so farre as I vn●erstand ther● is not one of the name left ●liue The foole saith the Prophet doth say in his ●●●art there is no God and doubt●esse they which with their toungs doe prophāe his word deny not y● same thing or at least y● which is as ●u●l for besides that betwéene God and his word there is ●lwaies a mutuall relation so as the one ●● not without the other we finde in the Scripture that God is the word ●s for al those that are departed this life in that mind I leaue them to God though without repentance we say they could not b● saued And as for those that bee yet ●● uing I looke for nothing more assuredly then to heare tell of their ruine and so likewise I leaue them Rea. There is yet an other sort which do not so brodely blaspheame God as those incredulous wretche ●● of whome wee haue spoken But they affirme yea and that very boldly that through the diuersity of translations the Scriptures are falsified in suc● wise that no certenty is left for beleefe to rest vpon This thing although with the grau● learned sort may happily not go for pay ment because they are able to iudge be twixt euery translation and his original yet are the meane sort shrewdly handle● with that suggestion for thus streach the● out that obiectiō The Scriptures say they were deliuered by y● Patriarches Prophe●● and Apostles set downe in the Hebrue and Greeke toungs afterwards ●●anslated aft● diuers fashios by men yea suchmen as w●● either ignorant of the truth ●●partial ● their owne ●on ceits for doth ●ot the di● agreemēt of our English translations be●● witnesse and make the case plaine inough Reli. I know these wranglers somewhat to well and doe p●●●eaue the wilinesse not of them as ● 〈◊〉 but of S●tan These men because they can no 〈…〉 ger with their Pope-holy-righteousne●●● sit in the consciences of the Godly and cause them to imbrace that whoredome of the sea of Ro●● would y●t be loth that Satan should ●eese his intrest in those that may be ●●ayed by any swing of reason to incline to their part if those good men would be so good as to shew forth our errours they should both bee heard and thanked I remember well that I haue often heard this obiection but who were the obiectors truely a few sillymen either papists or Newters of some little iudgement more then horses at whome the wise doe laugh and the Godly harted spew It is sufficient for our assurance that the Lord hath promised to be such a patron and protector of his word That it shall not perish when heauen and earth shall be brought to naught and that hee will haue no title added to it or diminished from it Therfore let vs giue them ouer and harken to our Sauiour Christ promising that Whosoeuer beleeueth shal be saued is blessed shal be pardoned of all his sinnes and haue life euerlasting And contrariwis●●●●eatning that whosoeuer beleeueth not 〈…〉 neuer be saued but abide the cuerlasting ●●rse of God Reas Well let thus much suffice concerning the word of God Now I pray you let vs returne to speake of God somewhat more you say that the nature or essence that is common in the god-head among the persons of the Father the Son and holy Ghost is one single substance vnable to be seuered Reli So I say indéed for otherwise should it come to passe that so many persons as there be so many Gods should there bee seuerally deuided therefore these thrée persons vnited together in nature are neuer seperated but distinguished so as the father is the father only the Sonne the Sonne onely and the holy Ghost the holy Ghost only Reas As these three persons are but one God in godhead so are they likewise of one euerlastingnesse or eternity and of one equality without degree Reli. Yea truely saue that in order the father is the first being of none but himselfe alon●● the Sonne is second begotten of the Father the holy Ghost is the third by an vnspeakeable maner proceeding of them both Reas Surely so farre as I can perecaue this mistery is most wonderfull and vnpossible to be conceiued by man Reli. Therefore full wisely hath hée taught vs to beléene and reuerence the secrots of God that saith Fides non habet meritum vbi ratio habet experimentum Reas Besides these what other things are we to consider chiefly in God Reli. That he is excéeding iust in punishing the disobedient and wicked and that hée is excéeding mercifull to the Godly and such as loue him for it is written that vnto such the Lord is mercifull and gracious slow to anger abundant in goodnesse and truth reseruing mercy for thousands forgiuing iniquity and transgression Reas But it seemeth by this order of his mercy and iustice that some things doe come to passe which God willeth not otherwise should there neede no punishment and therein I cannot perceaue how his omnipotency is not impeached Reli. Doubtlesse he could not be God if any thing should happen that he would not haue come to passe whereof the Apostle was full wary in this saying God bringeth all thinges to passe according to the councell of his owne will Reli. Yet can I not perceiue how his Iustice and mercy do agree