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abraham_n thâ—_n covenant_n with_o he_o no_o more_o mix_v then_o with_o we_o p._n 97._o proselyte_n be_v his_o seed_n 100_o so_o be_v civil_a justiciaries_n repute_v p._n 101_o 104._o adeodatus_n why_o not_o baptize_v in_o his_o infancy_n p._n 48._o alipius_n why_o not_o baptize_v in_o his_o insanâ—y_n ainsworth_n p._n 171._o albigensesâ—o_o â—o_z a_o aboptist_n p._n 64._o a_o abaptist_n not_o like_o the_o nonconformist_n p._n 72._o their_o ancient_a error_n new_o spring_v up_o against_o p._n 73._o oppose_v magistracy_n p._n 75._o pâ—â—_n no_o difference_n between_o infant_n of_o christian_n and_o turk_n p._n 86_o 87._o aretius_n vindicate_v p._n 175._o prove_v baptism_n to_o succeed_v circumcision_n by_o the_o anâ—ionts_n p._n 176._o athanasius_n mention_n infant-baptisme_n p._n 20._o augustinâ—_n vindicate_v p._n 43._o etc._n etc._n why_o 〈◊〉_d baptize_v in_o his_o infancy_n p._n 46_o 47._o b_o ball_n vindicate_v p._n 6._o baltazzar_n lydius_n p._n 64._o baptism_n call_v a_o new_a 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