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A00602 The Romish Fisher caught and held in his owne net. Or, A true relation of the Protestant conference and popish difference A iustification of the one, and refutation of the other. In matter of fact. faith. By Daniel Featly, Doctor in Diuinity. Featley, Daniel, 1582-1645.; Featley, Daniel, 1582-1645. Fisher catched in his owne net. aut 1624 (1624) STC 10738; ESTC S101879 166,325 348

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