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A91351 A cryer in the vvildernesse of England, declaring the baptisme of the eternall spirit, to be the onely baptisme in Christs kingdome published in Gospel-light, according to the word written in the Scriptures, and the eternall word written in the hidden man of the heart, for satisfaction of those, who are satisfied with truth alone. By Edward Punch of Carisbrook in the Isle of Wight, who is not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, because it is the power of God to salvation. Punch, Edward. 1653 (1653) Wing P4211; Thomason E725_7*; ESTC R206765 72,185 101

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their finnes and corruptions Matth. 3 12. Luke 3. 16 17. 4. The substance of Spirit-Baptisme consists in the promise of the Father which we have heard of the Sonne Acts 1. 4 5. as he himself hath declared now the promise of the Father doth consist in more than visible gifts as appears by severall testimonies of Christ unto his Apostles let us observe some particulars 1. The promise of the Father was more than visible gifts for it was the eternall Spirit which should be unto them an everlasting comforter that should abide with them for ever John 14. 16 17. now the Spirit of truth that was to abide with them for ever and to be their comforter alwayes was more than visible gifts which continued but for a time Again the Promise of the Father which was the spirit and comforter whom the Father would send in the name of the Son should teach them all things cocerning the great mysterie of God and bring all things to their remembrance that the Sonne had before declared unto them which is more than visible gifts as you say 3. The promise of the Father consists in power from on high as Christ declareth to his Apostles Luke 24. 49. Behold I send the promise of my Father upon you but what is that he bids them tarry in Jerusalem till they were endued with Power from on high here is the Promise of the Father that was to come upon them even power from on high and this spirit and power from on high being poured forth Turned the barren Wildernesse into a fruitfull field c. Isa 32. 15. it enabled the Apostles to do great things besides visible gifts as to themselves and others They were hereby enabled to preach the great mystery of salvation to all the world and there went forth such a power in their ministry that it threw down the whole Kingdome of the Devil in peoples hearts and made it all flee in pieces before it 2 Cor. 10. 4 5 c. It wrought so mightily in them that it comforted them agaimst all affliction they met with either inward or outward it filled their hearts and spirits with abundance of peace Joy and spirituall comfort which the world could not give nor receive John 14. 17. 27. now this and the like is more than visible gifts except you will say the whole work of God in bringing his people into the possession and enjoyment of the great salvation be all visible gifts or the Baptisme of gifts 4. The whole mystery of all doth meet in one and the same things as the promise of the Father power from on high and the Baptisme of the spirit for compare the 14 15 16. chapters of John with Luke 24. 49. and Acts 1. v. 4 5. 8. and all these do agree in one and the same thing namely spirit-Baptisme we need go no further for proof hereof than Acts 1. 4 5. in v. 3. it is recorded that he was seen of them sorty dayes after he was risen and the things he speaks of were concerning the Kingdome of God let us consider by the way what that is and then vers 4. and being assembled together with them commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem but wait for the promise of the Father which saith he Ye have heard of me For John truly baptised with water but ye shall be baptised with the holy Spirit not many dayes hence Here is the promise of the Father power from on high as in verse 8. and Spirit-Baptisme meeting all in one as clear as the light So now from clear testimonies of the word we do conclude that the Substantiall part of Spirit-Baptisme doth consist in the inward work of God wrought in his people suitable to the promise of the Father and power from on high and this consists in comforting supporting giving peace joy and rest of Spirit unto them not in the world but in Christ in whom dwells the fullnesse of God And also in breaking in pieces the Kingdome of Satan and opening the eyes of the blind and turning many from darknesse to light and from the power of Satan to God And in opening rivers in high places and turning the wildernesse into pools of water and giving water to the thirsty and rest to the very souls and binding up the broken hearted and washing away the filth of the daughters of Zion in the eternall fountain of living water pouring out a blessing upon them and his spirit upon their ofspring with many more precious promises of the Father all being fulfilled in the Baptisme of the Spirit as the Father and the Son had promised and so it was fulfilled in Spirit and power from on high Objection 11. All believers in all ages had faith and the works of God wrought in them in turning them from sin to God c. Yet we never read it was called Spirit-Baptisme therefore it is not meant of the great work of God in washing and saving his people from sin c. but it must be something else Answer 1. Here is Nicodemus his ignorance with a witnesse for because the work of God in his people in former dayes was not called the new birth to be born from above to be born of water and the Spirit c. therefore there was no such thing as he thought for he had a carnall apprehension of the great work Christ speaks of And as Nicodemus came to Christ by night so I doubt many do come to Christ in the dark now and so they are ignorant of the great work of Christ as Nicodemus was for you are as much out now that cannot believe there is any spirit-baptisme now because it was not so called before Christ came or that there was none before Christ came because not called so you may as well say there was no Gospel nor born from above nor no spirituall birth c. because not so called and so with Nicodemus discover your ignorance Objection 12. VVater-Baptisme was used after Spirit-Baptisme came in force yea among the Jews and Gentiles and the Apostles themselves did also practise it therefore it is still in force Answer 1. Not so for though the Apostles used it yet not by Commission nor by Command from Christ for there is not one word in all the Scripture more or lesse that is declared by any Apostle either in their Preaching or Writing Epistles to the Churches that they had any command from Christ to baptise with Water Nay further there is not any testimony in the Word that ever Water baptisme was called the baptisme of Christ but of John and seeing we have no proof to call it Christs baptisme why then shall we submit to it as the Ordinance of Christ and commanded by him which is no where called his nor none sent by him to practise it Indeed we read John was sent to Baptise with Water but shew me such a proof from any Apostle or where Christ said Go Baptise all Nations with
once commanded yet no Ceremony is still in force for all Ceremonies ended in respect of the command of them when the Substance came 2. Whatsoever was not a command in Christs Kingdome is not still in force because not a command in Christs Kingdome and water-Baptisme was not a command in Christs Kingdome but a fore-runner of it as is clear by severall Scriptures therefore it is not still in force if you look John the Baptist will tell you in severall places that it was a fore-runner of Christ he being the minister thereof and going before Christ Objection 7. The Baptisme of John was from heaven and the counsell of God and they that resisted it resisted the counsell of God against themselves Answer 1 I grant this to be a clear truth being observed in its time and place but observe all the Mosaicall Laws Ceremonies shadows types and figures were once the commmands of God and those that obeyed them not but resisted and refused them they died without mercy under two or three witnesses but when it was all finished and the ends for which it was ordained were accomplished and the fullnesse of time come that the substance was present which had been figured out in them then the Apostle calls them beggarly rudiments and asks the Collossians why they were subject to them Colos chapter 2. 2. As those that resisted Johns Baptisme in its time did resist the counsell of God then so these do now resist the counsell of God that do deny the Baptisme of the Spirit it being that administration of God that is spirit and life and the very substance of what was figured out before And if they resisted the counsell of God that did resist an outward and bodily washing which was then appointed of God to go before the substance what manner of counsel do they resist that do resist the Baptisme of the eternall spirit coming forth from the eternall God in all power in heaven and earth which think you hath greatest power in it the foregoing figure or the present substance Consider of this you that say there is no spirit-Baptisme now is not this denying the power and setting of a form Ob. 8. That place Mat. 28. 19. Where Christ gives his Disciples Commission to teach all Nations baptising them c. must be meant of water-Baptisme for without water no Baptisme An. 1. There is no other Baptisme besides water or else John was out when he bears witnesse of another Baptisme that should come after his Baptisme and that it should be administred by another manner of person than he was Mat. 3. 11. I indeed saith he do baptise you with water but there is one that cometh after me that is mightier than I be shall baptise you with the holy Spirit and with fire So here you see all Baptisme is not water there is some fire-Baptisme too 2. If the word of truth did not bear witnesse to another kind of water and washing by water besides our earthly waters then you had some ground for this conceit but the Scriptures and spirituall souls that are partakers of the true spirituall washing purifying and baptising in the strength of all power in heaven and earth such souls can with the word written bear witnesse to another manner of Baptisme and washing than any earthly washing in earthly rivers I have already in the former part of this discourse born witnesse to this true and Spirituall washing I will onely here cite some witnesses of the written word that prove clearly another kind of water and of washing then mens washings are in earthen fountains Psal 46. 4. Ezeck 16. and cap. 47. Isa 35. and cap. 44. 3. John 4. 14. John 7. 38 39. 1 Cor. 12. 13. Rev. 22. 1. 17. Isa 55. 1 2. Now consider if you could make it appear clearly by the Word that there were no other Waters but our earthly waters and no other washing but our earthly washing then you might also affirm there were no other Baptisme but with materiall Water but till you can prove this by the witnes of Truth we cannot believe the Baptisme in Matt. 28. 19. Can be earthly Water or earthly Washing or earthly Baptisme but heavenly Water heavenly Washing heavenly Baptisme suitable to power from on high Object 9. Water Baptisme is a command of Christ from Matth. 28. 19. Go teach all nations baptising them c. Here is water Baptisme given by command from Christ and so we doe follow it upon this ground Answ 1. Though I have already declared what the Commission is yet I shall also answer to this Objection in several particulars First there is not one word of materiall Water spoken of in this place but the Commission was to Baptise them into the Name of God or Father Son and Spirit nor no where else that I could yet see by Commission from Christ Therefore not material Water for the name of God is not material water neither is this Baptisme material Water 2. Your interpretation is quite contrary to the nature of the Commission for materiall Water doth not suite with all power in heaven and earth that being but an outward washing but all power in heaven and earth do accomplish an inward and spiritual washing and clensing from sin and all uncleannesse which outward washing could not do therefore outward washing is contrary to the nature of Christs Commission as it is contrary to the name of God and all power in Heaven and Earth 3. Water Baptisme suites not with a dispensation that is wholly spirituall but belonged to a precedent dispensation that had passed before in Johns time of whom he was the right Administrator and we never read of any that was sent to Baptize with Water but John as he declares he was let all Water-men in England come forth with such a word from Christ or his Apostles John 2. 33. and I will believe it that they were sent by command from Christ to baptise with material water 4. Water Baptisme is contrary to the kingdome of Christ which is within all Believers that are Believers indeed and Christ would not give his Apostles a Commission to practise that which was contrary to his kingdome or that was no part of it for Water Baptisme was a legall washing and that which went before that spirituall administration which Christ and John also calls the kingdom of God and of Christ Matt. 3. Mark 1. 15. therefore Christ would not give his Apostles Commission to set up a shaddow in the room of the substance for the kingdome of Christ is wholy spiritual and comes not with outward shews or observations But it consists in righteousnesse and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit and it is not brought forth in Saints by any outward observations Neither doth it come unto them in with by or through any carnal outward or legall ordinance as washing or the like but in power from on high wrought within them by all power in heaven and earth and now a
And behold I send the promise of my Father upon you but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem until ye be indued with power from on high Luke 24. 49. if this be not a promise I know none Now here you may read the truth that you do oppose and behold your own ignorance and sit down in silence and cover your lips for shame Obj. 19. If no water-baptism then no Ministery nor no right calling to preach and we may as well deny one as the other c. Answ 1. Here I say as you do though in another sence if we are not baptized with the spirit then we are no true Ministers of the spirit and then we have no ground to preach So our ground to preach doth arise from our being baptized though not with material water For I do affirm from Scripture and Reason that a man may be baptized in water and yet be as far from having any ground to preach that he may be an enemy to the true Ministery of God in spirit and power from on high For no man can deny but a wicked man may be thrown into water and so baptized in water And we have example that Simon Magus was baptized with water and yet no right to preach 2. Though the Apostles had received a Commission from Christ to go and teach all Nations yet they were not to practise it till they were indued with power from on high And now let me ask any of you or all of you who pretend a Calling to preach either from going into water or from mens laying hands upon you yea from any external ordination which is from man whatsoever How you do dare to go and call your selves Ministers of Christ and of the Gospel c. from a bare outward calling and yet are without either a Commission from Christ or power from on high either the Apostles were not to go till they had both But you do go to teach without a Commission or power from on high and what is this but to run before you are sent But here I would not be mistaken as if I were against all that do teach no I am really for all that do go forth in the strength of God in whose hearts and mindes God hath written his divine Laws and hath given them life and power from on high who are able Ministers of the Spirit and discerners of spirits in the light and wisdom of the eternal Spirit and do hear the voice of God in their own souls and do speak from the teachings of God in themselves So I hope you do see that those whom God doth teach they have a right to teach others though not hereunto ordained by earthly water nor any tradition of men taken up from a carnal understanding of the Scriptures But if men do not see this truth it is because of their ignorance and blindness and want of experience in the mystery of truth Obj. 20. But here you will say The Apostles were to go forth in an extraordinary work to teach all the world to speak with new tongues work miracles c. but now ordinary gifts will serve for to teach our own Nations c. Answ 1. I grant they were to be indued with tongues c. but yet the substance of all did consist in the internal work that was wrought in them for though they could not speak to all Nations except they did speak in their languages yet this was not the substance viz. their speaking several languages but there was a divine power went forth in their Ministery and had it not been for power from on high their word would have been no more effectual upon the people then the preaching of Christ and his Aposties was before among the Jews before the spirit was given 2 There is as much need of power from on high now in those that declare the mystery of God in the world for now all people generally are fixed upon the forms and traditions of the former ages set up by antichrist from a carnal understanding of the mystery of God And the man of sin and mystery of iniquity have so blinded the hearts mindes and understandings of all Nations that they cannot behold the glorious light of the Gospel but they are in Egyptian darkness the darkness and smoke of the bottomless pit and the false lights of antichrist have so blinded and dazled the eys of all the world that they cannot behold the glorious light of God If you would see Scripture for this purpose to declare this to be truth See 2 Thes 2. and Revelations of John with Matth. 24 c. And now a Ministery that must destroy such a mystery of iniquity and such a man of sin that have deceived all Nations for this twelve hundred yeers or more had need be a powerful Ministery I know not what you mean by your ordinary gifts but I know it is an extraordinary work must do this For I think that is extraordinary that hath force enough in it to destroy throw down and quite destroy all the building that man hath been setting up this many generations yea his very gods and all But that there shall be such a final destruction come upon the man of sin and mystery of iniquity it is cleer by the word 2 Thes 2. 8. here is so cleer a testimony of the destruction of the man of sin and mystery of iniquity spoken of ver 3 4 6 7. that it is undenyable And now what think you Is not the spirit of Gods mouth power from on high and is not the brightness of his coming the light of God then where are your ordinary gifts to destroy antichrist but I advise you that you be sure your building be of God and not of self for if it be below the power of God in spirit and below the brightness of God then when God comes forth in spirit and brightness he will assuredly destroy it root and branch head and tayl And now I can conclude no otherwise but thus that the Ministery that God will send forth from the spirit of his mouth and that shall appear in the bright and cleer light of God in his coming for the destruction of the man of sin and mystery of iniquity it shall consist in power from on high and in the true light of life And let all that dwell upon earthly principles look to it when God puts the spirit of life into his witnesses they shall finde these are no ordinary witnesses nor gifts in them but extraordinary Obj. 21. But if water-baptism must down then what shall we do for ordinances and we may as well throw away all ordinances as some and then this is the way to bring in ranting principles amongst us and carnal liberty c. Answ 1. Because we do not own nor set up that Ordinance that we have no ground for must we therefore throw away all Ordinances Doth this follow think you because a man doth not own that
practise then you have for water-baptism and that will be more in force when the other doth appear to be no Ordinance at all But now to the latter part of your Objection that this is the way to bring in ranting principles if we deny water-baptism to be an Ordinance c. First must carnal liberty be brought into the Church of Christ if that be not set up and practised there which Christ never commanded this is very strange 2 Is this the way to bring in carnal liberty and ranting principles among believers to exalt the work of all power in heaven and earth I thought that creature-exaltation self-seeking and setting up idols had been the way to bring in carnal liberty and ranting principles when these things are imposed upon creatures to make up an out-side society then take heed of ranting 3 God doth according to his promise write his righteous and holy just and good laws in his peoples hearts and puts his fear in them that so they may never depart from him and hath said they shall not depart from him any more and that he will be their God and they shall be his people that he will live in them and dwell among them and they shall be all taught of him and great shall be their peace c. Now I hope this is not the way to bring in ranting principles and carnal liberty among the people of God who are thus taught of God and do live in the law of the spirit of life that is in Christ who is their life and their all The Law of God written in his peoples hearts doth no way bring in ranting principles into their mindes but these that is unto the kingdom of the devil and antichrist that do consist in sin and all unrighteousness and in empty forms traditions and precepts of men who proceed from fleshly and carnal principles in the world and carnal Church And I must tell you that the Law of God written in his peoples hearts and mindes this is the most rantingest principle to these that can be upon the face of the earth therefore when God writes his Laws in his peoples hearts and brings forth the new creation in them and so makes them partakers of the divine nature then let antichrist and all his carnal priviledges look for a final rooting out and an eternal destruction For the life and power of godlimess wrought in the people of God by a divine principle destroys all empty carnal and formal and traditional outside Religion in them that proceeds from antichrist which proceeds from carnal principles of flesh and blood The Law of God in the new nature destroys the Law of sin and flesh in the old nature with the very corrupt nature it self The life of God in his people or rather God living in them destroys the dead works of sin and flesh in them the power of God from on high being present in his people destroys the power of sin in them the wisdom of God in his people destroys the wisdom of the flesh in them The work of God in his people in the new creation brought forth in them destroys the works of sin and antichrist in their old nature yea the whole body of sin it self Yea the work of God in the new man is the onely ranting principle to antichrist the whole mystery of iniquity and man of sin for it makes it all flie in pieces before it even all the gross darkness and corruption and filthiness of the flesh with all the false light in the flesh and spirit of man with all empty forms and carnal observations c. all goeth down when God appears in his people in the brightness of his coming in spirit and power from on high in the hidden man of the heart And now where are your Ranting principles and carnal liberty you so much speak of to fall upon those that obey not your carnal Ordinances it falls altogether upon time-servers outside-professors self-seekers c. but not upon those that worship God in spirit and truth For the Grace of God that bringeth salvation to light in the souls of his people teacheth them to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live godly righteously and soberly in this present world and this proves Ranting principles to be nothing but the whole body of sin which is contrary to the divine principle that God brings forth in his Temple therefore take heed of throwing dirt in the face of truth and of slandering the Grace of God shed abroad in his peoples hearts the onely principle of true holiness and righteousness Do you think nothing can keep us from Ranting principles but a little cold water why then have so many that have gone under water fallen also under Ranting principles Obj. 23. Several baptisms were used in the primitive times and water-baptism is nowhere forbid in Scripture therefore we may use it still c. Answ 1. If the truth were not a mystery then antichrist might understand it but God is pleased to declare the truth in a mystery that so those that receive it not in the love of it may be blinded and so given up to strong delusions to believe lies as it is appointed for the antichristian world man of sin and mystery of iniquity 2 Thes 2. in which the antichristian world is deceived and blinded even to this day 2 Paul teacheth one baptism unto the Church of the Ephesians Eph. 4. 5. and doubtless Paul would not leave out another baptism viz. water if it had been any one bond of the true Churches unity seeing he doth reckon up seven which are a perfect number And that we may not be mistaken in the true understanding of this baptism Paul here speaks of he satisfies us what baptism it is 1 Cor. 12. 13. for by one spirit are we all baptized into one body whether Jews or Gentiles whether bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit So here Paul bears witness to the one and onely baptism of the New-Testament which witness is enough to satisfie those who are satisfied with the truth it self But you will say that baptism spoke of Ephes 4. 5. is one baptism of a sort and that this is the meaning of the place c. First this is more then the word declares and so we have no ground to build where there is no foundation 2 If you make an addition unto this part of the words namely one baptism and put in this word here one of a sort then we must put this word unto the sense of all the rest of the bonds of the true Churches unity mentioned in this place And then we must read it thus One body of a sort one spirit of a sort one hope of a sort one Lord of a sort one faith of a sort one baptism of a sort and one God of a sort And now let all that have eyes to see behold the gross blindness and more then Egyptian