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A89850 Satans design discovered: vvho under a pretence of worshipping Christs person in heaven, would exclude God and Christ, the spirit and light, out of the world: and that he should no more dwell in his people as he hath done, till Doomsday, that so he might rule in the hearts of men and women, unrevealed, while the world endures, onely under the name of God and Christ, talked of at a distance, that he may rule in the creation, exalted above God. Clearly laid open in an answer to Thomas Moor, who calls his book an Antidote against the spreading infections, &c. Wherein is discovered the crooked ways the winding Serpent takes to save his head, and reproach the truth with lies, that by any means he might make people believe that a lying spirit is among the Quakers, but is found within him. With 48. lies, taken out from three times as many, and sent back to be proved by the founder of them, T.M. Also some particulars, what the Quakers holds ... / By a servant to truth, called James Nayler. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1655 (1655) Wing N313; Thomason E857_6; ESTC R202989 34,304 48

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and so utters Psal 119 11. v. thy confusion who faist The grace of God that brings salvation instructs not to look for any light or spirit in them for direction when Christ saith He will send the spirit of truth who shall guide them into all truth which thou denyest to be grace who deniest that Spirit for teaching And whereas thou would make people believe that directing to the light within opens a gap to all Popery and corrupt Principles thou shewest thy self herein to be contrary to the spirit of God which spake in the Apostles who makes the cause of all wickedness to be blindness of the heart as thou maist read Eph. 4. 18. and that such are past feeling whose hearts are blinde and so given to all maner of lasciviousness to commit sin with greediness and thou that would deny the infallible Spirit of God for giving the sence of the Scriptures and saith we have the same ground for that as the Papists have for the Pope or Councel thou shalt know thy Blasphemy against that Spirit which thou speakest against without which no Scripture can be opened nor Act. 13. 27. Luk. 24. 45 the voices of the Prophets and Apostles known as also thy calling of Perfection a devilish Doctrine which is the Doctrine of Christ Matth. 5. 48. the Doctrine of his Apostles Col. 1. 28. yea the end of the whole Ministry Eph. 4. 11 12 13. and that is the spirit of the Devil in thee that calls it devilish Doctrine which spirit in thy Forefathers the Pharisees cal ed Christ a Devil and so thou dost his Doctrine and him in his servants and whereas thou tellest of some who in words confess Christ but in works deny him I say thou art he who hath him in thy mouth to talk on but denies him and his working any of his works of Righteousness in his Creatures now as in divers places of thy book thou hast done So this word thou hast spoken against thy self and so by thy own mouth thou art condemned And whereas thou would charge us with serving and magnifying our bellies I say with shame may thou speak it who could not abide from thy dinner but broke up thy dispute about it of which thou wouldst clear thy self formerly but in thy book art made to confess thy act and excuses it because thou had ridden ten miles and it was about an hour after noon I know it s not usual with the Parish Ministers to miss their meal time so long but that being an extra ordinary occasion and many strangers come much farther thou might have broken custome one houre had that beene all but was not an other thing in it thou may remember what thou was then to prove but could not and it was high time to breake off this many can witnesse and when it was alledged you was faint I said to John Wray let them that are faint go to eate but let not the meeting breake up to which he answered if we would not go away he must use his authority of his house whereupon I said we would not stay in his house against his mind yet notwithstanding thou art not ashamed to say in thy booke we would gladly have beene gon and charge us with magnifying our bellies be ashamed of thy worke who magnified thy dinner before the worke of God then in hand And thus the Devill would ever cast his works upon the innocent and have the reproach to lie on another this thouwould deny againe had not thou printed it thy selfe as many other things thou hast As for thy excuses thou makes for thy errours thou then uttered I say what thou then said if thou now deny I shall not contend I had rather heare an errour recanted then defended and persisted in As for thy saying that Paul saw Christ with his bodily eies I say they may beleive thee who hath not seene him and who knows no better for any proofe thou hast yet made thereof they may chuse but admit he did was it not a second appearance which thou affirmes cannot be till the end of the world and would accu e me herein as a blasphemer so see thy confusion but if thou be blinded others may see who owne the light which thou denies Thou askes four Queries First concerning God being in mee and how I say by his in-dwelling according to his promise 2 Cor. 6. 16. Second That no wicked man hath benefit by Christ nor any man till he can witnesse Christ in him I say Christ is that only benefit of all creatures and only Psal 69. 22. he that hath him hath the benefit but to all that receive him not he is the condemnation and to such all becomes curses John 3. 18. 19. John 15. 22. Third Whether the writing of the Prophets and Apostles be a dead letter I say without the Spirit it is nor can any without that Spirit that gave them forth understand them or know the voyces of Prophets or Apostles Luke 24. 45. Acts 13. 27. Fourth Whether Christ be any thing that beareth our sins in us as the propitiation I say Christ is he that beares the sins of all the world even them who know him not nor his propitiation and so it is that men are not consumed and where he ceaseth bearing the creature falls into Hell Psa 75. 3. 2 Cor. 1. 5. Rom. 8. 17. Col 1. 24. but thou that denies this art not thou ashamed to accuse us for murthering the just one in us if he cannot suffer in us how can we murther him in us yet he alone is our propitiation but none know this but where he is revealed And thou still goes about to prove the Scriptures to be the absolute ground and Medium of faith though before denied yet unwilling thou art that Christ should be the absolute ground and Medium yet canst thou there is not two absolute Mediums it must either be Christ or the letter that absolute and if the letter be the absolute means ehen faith may be had without Christ being the means find no Scripture to shut him out but thou brings that of 2 Tim. 3 the Scriptures are able to make wise through faith and this thou would make the ground of faith which cannot make wise without faith and such shamefull shifts art thou put to to get Christ out of his place and put the letter in his stead wherein the letter is against thee which saith Faith is the gift of God and Christ is the ground and medium of it so Antichrist can get no ground by the Scriptures to thrust out Christ unlesse he turne them quite contrary And whereas thou tells we do not worship the same God thou did confesse I say the Saint's God was ever a Spirit and dwelt in them in spirit but the Heathens had their Gods ever without them who could not be in them further than imagination so thou may see what God thou then confessed the chiefe
eye cannot see this nor doth thy Oracle leade thee to it further than granishing the Sepulchers of them that was so used even whil'st thou art found in the same worke and thou tells of Christs appearance being a Rocke of offence to both the houses of Israel but canst not see thy selfe stumbling at his light and appearance and would'st preach him out of the world such is thy offence at his appearance and how his Children are for signes and wonders now and his appearance now every where spoken against and thou tellest much of the Scriptures being the infallible Oracle of God I say if they be so let them alone and own them as they are that they may be fulfilled and not changed but they are in an wofull case who have no better infallibility then the letter when the Serpent hath given his Crooked subtill meanings and interpretations and hath turned it to a contrary end as is plaine in this generation even the plainest words that ever Christ spoke are turned quite contrary both in judgment and practice even by your parish Masters as witnesse Math. 23. 8. 10. besides multitudes more which might be instanced but blessed be God who hath given us the Spirit of his Son into our hearts whereby the Orocle is seene and the pervertors the Hypocrites and the Phaire shyers of this generation which we had never seene had we had no better teaching then from you or that we could find in the letter without the life and Spirit which you would drive people from and in thy commendation of the letter thou sai'st therein is knowne the whole Counsell and Mystery of God that is to be or may be revealed unto mortall men even in those Scriptures that Timothy had beene instructed into and knowne from his youth whereas if thou was not blind thou mightest see how thou hast excluded and made uselesse all the Apostles writings for no man who hath so much as reason can judge that Timothy was instructed from his youth in those Epistles which was but then written to him and was never seene before and many other which was not then written which he had never seene and in these which Timothy had knowne from his youth was the whole Counsell of God sai'st thou and nothing to be added to them so thou hast judged the Apostles writings which are added since to be superfluous as to the whose Counsell of God and such mangled stuffe as this comes out of Babells bottle as I might have shewed in many more parts of thy booke but my life is not to rake in such confusion As thou tellest of Christ having given gifts for the perfecting of the Saints till we all come to a perfect man And in another place thou callest perfection a devillish Doctrine and thus vomits thy Blasphemy as though Christ gave gifts for accomplishing a devillish Doctrine But Christ and his Doctrine was ever counted a Devil and devillish in the eyes of thy Generation and by thy own mouth thou art judged thou art not one of those he begifted who callest the End devillish for which he begifted them And thou sayst they deny the sufficiency of Gods Teaching who deny the sufficiency of the Scripture as to lead to God without the Spirit to give the meaning and lead to the use of them I say I deny the sufficiency of any carnal visible thing Scripture Joh. 16. 13. or other without the Spirit of God to lead into the use thereof for that is it which is appointed of God to lead into all Truth and out of all Errour and there is no Teaching further sufficient than that leades and therefore nothing more by the Devil envied and thou that denies this to be sufficient even to those who never heard nor saw letter I say thou art he that denies the alone sufficiency of Gods Teaching and this I shall be ready while the Lord will to witness against thee in word or writing and all that say the letter is sufficient without the Spirit to give the meaning and lead to the use of it In thy Answer to the 1 Query thou sayst the new Jerusalem appears not to be come down to Us because of our grief of heart and yearning bowels for the miseries of others I say thou shewes what thou knowes of it Did not Christ weep over Jerusalem and had John no bowels of compassion towards others and wilt thou Rev. 21. 23. deny their seeing of the new Jerusalem Hath not thy Imaginations blinded thee above measure Can any rightly commiserate others who are out of Rest but those that are come into the Rest Indeed the Hypocrite is troubled for the Mote in his brothers eye before the beam be pull'd out of his own And thou sayst further It is not yet come down out of Heaven to any I say it was come down in John's time and when went it up again one y it was taken away and is taken away from the Popish Clergy and all that have followed them since the Mystery of Iniquity Yet hath not God been without his City here upon Earth since it came down after Christs Ascension but what is this to the Enemies thereof thou knowest it not who art preaching it out of the Word as thou art Christ the Light of it which should lead to cleanse all those who must enter into it 's for the Devil must keep the hopes of this out of peoples mind as long as he can least they begin to seek the way of Entrance and cast off their sinnes and so his Kingdome be broken and an End of his Ministery And for the second thou sayst this Answer must serve also To the third which askes where the New Covenant is this thou shufflest by with other things which are Psal 119 11. Jer. 20. 9 Rom. 10. 8. Isa 51. 7 Gal. 4. 6 Heb. 8. 10 13. nothing to the Question least thou should be forced to confess the Prophets and Apostles words and the Covenant to be written in the heart this thou puts into another World and not fully to be done here least any finding the Law and Word God hath written in the heart the blind guides should be discovered therewith which the Prophets and Apostles witnessed in their hearts whereby they cryed against all the blind Guides and Hirelings in their time But sayst thou While Peaple are here they must be imperfect in every thing Truly I know not how it should be any other with them who deny the Workes and Sufferings of Christ in them when Satans Work is perfect then theirs may but the least Work of Christ in whom oever he workes it is perfect who in him are created unto good Workes that they should walk therein but this Doctrine is an Enemy to the evil Workes and therefore cannot be received To the fourth Query where that annointing is spoken of 1 John 2. And this thou would'it thrust out from the Spirit within to your literal Teaching when John saith
The annointing that you have received abideth in you And you need not that any man teach you but as the same annointing teacheth you of all things and is Truth and is no Lie and even as it hath taught you you shall abide in him And this thou shamest not to wrest That they need no man teach them that teacheth otherwise Oh how fain would'st thou keep blind the heart and keep people without The Serpent knowes the blindness of the heart is the sole cause of the Creatures being alienated from the Life of God and so given up to all lasciviousness and uncleanness with greediness Ephes 4. 18 19. And the Light in the Heart is the onely thing that reveales the Gospel and gives the Light of the Knowledg of the Glory of God therefore he labours to keep people for looking for this Treasure in their Earthen Vessels 2 Cor. 4. to the 8. ver And in this work thou stands stoutly to thy Master to whom thou art fallen To the fifth Query What and where the Comforter is Somewhat what he is thou speakest but in the Heart thou dare not confess him least thou should destroy thy own Kingdome though none on Earth ever had him any where else since he ascended and so they gave their Testimony Gal. 4. 6. Ephes 3. 17. which thine is contrary who would limit him above the Clouds whom the Saints had dwelling in their bodies 1 Cor. 6. 19. But this is not known where the Man of Sinne and Son of Perdition sits in the Temple of God exalted above God letting and opposing the appearance of Christ which should reveal him In thy Answer to the sixth Query which asketh whether any of the servants of God may expect his word from his own mouth To this thou an werest No shewing thy self to be one of those who hast thy Word from thy Neighbour and not from the mouth of the Lord And here I know thou speakest thy own Experience but why dost thou bely others whom thou canst not judge as that Timothy had not the Word from the mouth of the Lord who had the gift in him which was given by Prophecie and that was from the mouth of the Lord immediate 1 Tim. 4 14. though first declared of by Paul And whereas thou faist that the Apostles are said to be the last in respect of such immediate furniture and mission I say that is the Liar that speakes thereby for to limit the Lord And I witness against thee who have received the Word from his own Mouth and immediate Calling And whereas thou faist Christ prayes for a blessing on no other immediate Messengers since I say that is another against which I witness who have found his Prayer and blessing upon the immediate Call to the same word As for the slander thou layst upon the Query I leave it to clear it self in the sight of all that read it For the seventh Query in stead of answering thou makest Lyes thereby the better to escape that so instead of answering thou may fall a slandering saying That he that sent the Queries sent them onely to them that deny the alone Teachings and yet makes it one of his Queries Whether they do so or no I say the Queries were not onely sent to them that deny the alone sufficiency of Gods Teaching as the Inscription may manifest neither is the Query Whether they do so or no but whether that Teaching of God alone be sufficient So into the Pit thou hast digged falls thy reproach with thee who hast no way to slander nor evade the Truth but by thy Lies so thy Refuge failes thee after all thy boasting In thy Answer to the eighth Query which askes what and where that word is that People shall hear behind them and where their Teacher is c. And this word thou thrusts out into another World and would thrust in instead thy self with the rest of thy Brethren such like because the word is read Teachers I say all that know this Prophecie of Isaiah and the end of it knows that it fore-tells of this day of the Lord wherein all the Children of the Lord shall be taught of the Lord Not is it like that Isaiah was prophesying of such as you who so earnestly Isay 59. 13. declared against such as sought for their gain from their quarters and called them greedy dumb Dogs and cryed down those who spoke a Divination of their own brain and not from the mouth of the Lord It 's not like he was prophesying of you who are found in all these things and much worse which he declares against for though you have a way to call your selves Ministers yet shall you never have Testimony from any Scripture as it was given out by Prophet or Apostle so long as you are found in that way of Worship Manner and Meanes which now you are in Not a line in this Scripture will serve you unwrested it comming from a contrary Spirit it no more owns you then you own it in Life and Practice For what thou sayst to the Ninth Query That the Word is not a Principle in men that believe or mind it not I say thou speakest thy own knowledge but some know better then to believe thee who knowes That where there is no Word there is no Life who knows him that upholds all by the Word of his Power which they that have no Word but the Letter knows little of To the Tenth Query What that voyce of Christ is which his sheep knowes And this thou makest to be the written Record so by thy Doctrine all that heares the Scriptures knoweth the voice of Christ but who reads Act. 13. 27. may see thy false Doctrine for wiser than thou had the Record that spoke of Christ but knew not the voices of the Prophers that spoke it but from the Record concluded to put him to death who was the Joh. 19. 7. Word so thou from the Letter art preaching him out of the World and slandring him in the World making people believe that who waits for the voice of Christ in any other way but in the Letter waits but for a delusion So all the Communion thou knowst with Christ is literal and thus thou preachest and all believes thee but who hath fellowship in Spirit with Christ sees thee deluded and thy delusion And for answer to that Clause How the voyce of Christ may be known from all strange voices thou sayst By its own Light the Word of God I say that is true if from Truth from thee it came but dost thou not mean thereby the Letter which all along thou callest the Word which a man may read all his life and therewith come amongst you Parish Masters and never discern the voyce of Christ though he may hear as many voices amongst you and several Imaginations as there are dayes in a Year Rom. 8. 10. but if he mind the Light and Spirit which brings to understand the voice
of Christ with that he would be brought to deny you all who are out of his way and have not his Word abiding in you To the Eleventh Query which asketh What that way in the Wilderness is which is called the way of Holiness and whether any may expect to finde it in these dayes To this thou saist Christ Jesus is the way the Truth and the Rom. 8. 10. Life and none can come to the Father but by him I say that these are true words but thou that makest it thy work to preach him out of the World till Doomes-day and confine him in the Heavens alone hast excluded him for being away to those now in the world to lead them out of the World which cannot ascend up into Heaven there to walk in him as a way so thou hast shut up the Kingdome against men as thy Fathers ever did And an Answer to the latter part of the Query which thou hast left unanswered must needs follow that none can expect to find such a way in these dayes nor till after they be dead where the Serpent perswades all his Hearers of their Righteousness And so of their Way also and so keeps his Way in the World In answer to the 12 Querie What that manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall and whether there be any profiting but by it To the first part of this Querie thou saist it is that one Spirit which is in that one person of the Son of God and this person thou hast limited from the earth till domes day and doth not confesse to the Spirit manifest within the creature but tells of a distinct understanding of that Spirit and his testimony concerning Christ which is no more from thee but an imagination as all that knowes the Spirit may judge for there is no manifestation of the Spirit of God upon earth but what is within and those that it witnessed it manifested witnessed it dwelling in them but thy testimony is as far different as the Heavens is from the earth And for the two latter parts of the Querie whether it be not of it selfe an infallible guide and whether there be any profiting but by it least they should fal on thy head having named them thou tellest a lie and therewith makest an escape saying they are sufficiently answered before 1 Cor. 6. 19. To the 13 Querie what and where that worship of God in Spirit is and whether any can worship in Spirit but those that are borne of the Spirit and whether they so borne need any other guide in his spirituall worship but that Spirit of which they are borne and whether such worshippers have not been are now different from all other worshippers in the world And to the forepart of this thou addest some words as touching the Samaritans worship and Jews worship not to the purpose but as concerning whether any can worship in Spirit but such as are borne in Spirit and whether they need any other guide but that Spirit and all the rest of the Querie which is the most materiall to shew thy deceipts from these thou stealest away without any answer at all as though the naming them over againe was sufficient Art thou not ashamed to call these answers dost thinke all are as blind as thy selfe and those thy companions whom thou hast blinded This day is the Lord through the pride of thy heart covering thee with thy own shame and is discovering the skirts of the whore and her nakednesse appeares and shall more appeare that the fire may be kindled wherein to burne her and all her Merchants that have beene made rich through the abundance of her delicacy begin to bewaile and stand aftre of for feare of her torments crying for helpe yet shall the Nations which have beene deceived see her lewdnesse and be set free from her witchcrafts then shall the Lord be knowne present and praised To the 14 Querie which is about the light thou confessest it to be Jesus Christ which lighteth every man which cometh into the world but perceiving it against thy selfe doctrine and trading in the conclusion thou would bind it only to the enlightening of them who are beleivers and would deny the light to be the condemnation of the unbelievers saying it is not the coming Job 3. 15 of the light to them is the condemnation when Christ saith this is the condemnation that light is come into the world and men loved darknesse rather then light and If I had not come they had not had sin But thy testimony is contrary so they that beleive thee 2 Cor. 4. 6. make Christ a liar and they that beleives Christ makes thee a liar and thou would'st limit this light to be personall which all the Children of the light have know ne shining in their hearts which is the condemnation of them that know it not nor can the Children of darknesse judge of the light what it is who puts it afarre off yet thou that hates it hast it against thee though thou have it not with thee not being guided by it To the 15 Querie what the law of the Spirit of life is which made Paul free from the law of sin and death c. And instead of answering this thou fallest a wrangling with it and thou would make people believe that Pauls freedom he speaks of Rom. 8. 2. from the law of sin and death was not from that law that led him into captivity to sin which he complaines on and so thy first thing is to prove the Apostle a lyar who saies the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law oi sin and death for what the law could not do in that it was weake thorough the flesh the Son of God condemning the sin in the flesh that the righteousnesse of the law might be fulfilled in the creature by Christ Another thing where thou would prove him a liar is in that he saith he is made free from the law of sin and death and this thou also wholly denies as though thou knew his condition better then he did himselfe And thou callest the body of sin a law and the law of sin another law and such mangled stuffe not worth mentioning and for which thou hast no proof but thy blind Imaginations who would have 3 or 4 Lawes but not one of them in the Heart onely the Law of sinne and thou concludest that the Proposer of the Queries cannot make out what God hath revealed to him and thy ground is because he hath propounded these Queries as much as to say He that asked Questions of the Scribes and Pharisees could not make out his Revelations and this is thy reasoning whereby thou wouldst shew another mans folly Indeed to the blind guides he could never make out his Revelations nor can he now where he is but who wants abilities to make out any thing of the spirit of God and thinkes to