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A81826 Of the right of churches and of the magistrates power over them. Wherein is further made out 1. the nullity and vanity of ecclesiasticall power (of ex-communicating, deposing, and making lawes) independent from the power of magistracy. 2. The absurdity of the distinctions of power and lawes into ecclesiasticall and civil, spirituall and temporall. 3. That these distinctions have introduced the mystery of iniquity into the world, and alwayes disunited the minds and affections of Christians and brethren. 4. That those reformers who have stood for a jurisdiction distinct from that of the magistrate, have unawares strenghthened [sic] the mystery of iniquity. / By Lewis du Moulin Professour of History in the Vniversity of Oxford. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. 1658 (1658) Wing D2544; Thomason E2115_1; ESTC R212665 195,819 444

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speak_v can_v the_o lord_n jesus_n appoint_v officer_n who_o office_n and_o place_n be_v chief_o and_o principal_o to_o promote_v the_o interest_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o yet_o those_o officer_n shall_v not_o intend_v that_o which_o chief_o they_o be_v to_o intend_v and_o be_v appoint_v for_o namely_o the_o glory_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o advancement_n of_o his_o kingdom_n how_o can_v the_o article_n stand_v with_o what_o he_o say_v p._n 187._o that_o magistrate_n as_o such_o do_v not_o intend_v the_o glory_n of_o jesus_n christ_n otherwise_o then_o a_o seaman_n a_o printer_n a_o merchant_n so_o that_o by_o what_o he_o say_v the_o magistrate_n act_v towards_o the_o promote_a and_o advance_v christ_n kingdom_n have_v no_o more_o congruity_n than_o the_o act_n of_o a_o physician_n build_v a_o house_n which_o he_o do_v not_o build_v as_o a_o physician_n but_o as_o a_o architect_n and_o builder_n thus_o mr._n gillespie_n make_v not_o a_o magistrate_n or_o magistracy_n but_o 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