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of_o rome_n s._n peter_n chair_n yea_o in_o the_o second_o century_n amandus_n polonus_n m._n spark_n and_o m._n whitaker_n though_o protestant_n confess_v that_o victor_n than_o bishop_n of_o rome_n who_o m._n whitgift_n call_v a_o godly_a bishop_n carry_v himself_o as_o pope_n or_o head_n of_o the_o church_n so_o well_o have_v protestant_a doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n a_o ground_n in_o rhe_n father_n of_o the_o first_o three_o age_n that_o danaeus_n a_o protestant_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o bellarmine_n acknowledge_v sovereign_a authority_n to_o have_v be_v practise_v by_o the_o pope_n of_o the_o three_o age_n the_o centurist_n cent._n 3._o that_o tertullian_n do_v think_v the_o key_n to_o be_v commit_v chief_o to_o s._n peter_n and_o the_o church_n to_o be_v build_v on_o he_o and_o s._n cyprian_a to_o have_v teach_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n ought_v to_o be_v acknowledge_v of_o all_o other_o the_o mother_n church_n now_o shall_v all_o this_o be_v call_v protestant_n doctrine_n that_o s._n peter_n be_v head_n and_o root_n of_o the_o church_n that_o the_o church_n be_v found_v upon_o he_o that_o the_o chief_a charge_n of_o christ_n flock_n be_v give_v to_o he_o that_o he_o be_v the_o supreme_a among_o divine_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v his_o chair_n which_o for_o this_o have_v a_o more_o powerful_a principality_n as_o great_a so_o that_o the_o great_a cause_n in_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o be_v decide_v by_o she_o where_o by_o part_n all_o the_o controversy_n of_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n be_v hold_v out_o against_o they_o second_o protestant_n deny_v we_o shall_v believe_v any_o thing_n not_o contain_v in_o scripture_n upon_o apostolical_a tradition_n conserve_v in_o the_o church_n but_o in_o the_o first_o age_n s._n denis_n eccl._n hierarch_n c._n l._n speak_v of_o the_o apostle_n say_v these_o our_o first_o captain_n of_o priestly_a function_n do_v deliver_v to_o we_o the_o chief_a and_o most_o