Selected quad for the lemma: tradition_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
tradition_n	deliver_v	scripture_n	unwritten_a	1,425	5	12.2379	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A55825	The validity of the orders of the Church of England made out against the objections of the papists, in several letters to a gentleman of Norwich that desired satisfaction therein / by Humphrey Prideaux ...	Prideaux, Humphrey, 1648-1724.	1688 (1688)	Wing P3419; ESTC R33955	139,879	134

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