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A87687 Baptism without bason. Or, Plain Scripture-proof against infant-baptism, I. By way of answer to Mr. Baxter's arguments, and to the exercitations of Mr. Sidenham, teacher to a church a[t] Newcastle, concerning infants baptism: for which that their pretended consequences are from concessions not to be granted, and from Scriptures as mistaken, and absolutely wrested, is clearly discovered. With II. Several questions and answers, positively holding out the minde of Christ in baptizing of believers onely; and that the magistrates may be induced more and more to encourage the preaching thereof in publike. III. A declaration written to the election of grace, who for want of information are of contrary judgment. Written by William Kaye, minister of the Gospel at Stokesley. Kaye, William. 1653 (1653) Wing K32; Thomason E715_13; ESTC R207264 49,935 54

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which_o be_v baptize_v be_v as_o brethren_n to_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o 26_o the_o act._n 9_o 26_o church_n by_o the_o 3.9_o the_o gal._n 3.9_o right_a hand_n of_o fellowship_n quest_n 14._o but_o may_v not_o sprinkle_v of_o water_n suffice_v in_o baptism_n answ_n no_o there_o can_v be_v no_o baptism_n in_o sprinkle_v or_o partial_a dip_v for_o in_o sprinkle_v the_o right_a use_n of_o water_n be_v as_o much_o pervert_v as_o when_o 15.15_o when_o 1_o sam._n 15.15_o saul_n spare_v part_n of_o the_o sheep_n though_o he_o intend_v they_o for_o god_n service_n and_o beside_o in_o the_o 6.4_o the_o rom._n 6.4_o bury_n of_o the_o whole_a body_n in_o water_n the_o mystery_n of_o be_v bury_v with_o christ_n unto_o his_o death_n and_o the_o raise_n out_o of_o the_o water_n to_o be_v conformable_a to_o the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o only_o reveal_v but_o in_o the_o baptize_v humble_v of_o themselves_o prostrate_a abraham_n like_a before_o god_n in_o the_o low_a element_n there_o be_v a_o submission_n to_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o profession_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o gospel_n which_o can_v be_v do_v or_o demonstrate_v in_o sprinkle_v which_o neither_o sense_n reason_n scripture_n nor_o any_o author_n profane_a or_o divine_a can_v judge_v to_o be_v baptism_n quest_n 15._o whether_o be_v it_o not_o then_o a_o sin_n to_o baptize_v infant_n answ_n that_o we_o may_v judge_v no_o man_n but_o by_o visible_a appearance_n it_o be_v without_o controversy_n that_o they_o which_o baptize_v the_o child_n of_o all_o the_o parish_n or_o other_o man_n parish_n without_o exception_n sin_n against_o the_o light_n of_o their_o own_o pretend_a consequence_n quest_n 16._o but_o may_v not_o god_n accept_v of_o the_o good_a meaning_n and_o intention_n of_o man_n though_o the_o rule_n or_o command_n be_v not_o altogether_o observe_v answ_n in_o the_o sprinkle_n of_o a_o infant_n there_o be_v nothing_o at_o all_o either_o in_o the_o teach_v disciple_n that_o aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v or_o of_o the_o use_n of_o water_n in_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o intend_v or_o imagine_v what_o we_o please_v the_o ordinance_n be_v so_o total_o pervert_v that_o after_o information_n i_o do_v not_o know_v how_o the_o lord_n can_v be_v say_v to_o 17.30_o to_o act_n 17.30_o wink_v at_o such_o ignorance_n quest_n 17._o whether_o be_v the_o child_n damn_v if_o it_o die_v unbaptise_v answ_n it_o be_v not_o in_o man_n to_o judge_v that_o any_o child_n that_o die_v be_v either_o save_v or_o damn_v 29.29_o damn_v deut._n 29.29_o secret_a thing_n belong_v unto_o god_n and_o if_o in_o god_n election_n it_o be_v save_v want_v of_o baptism_n can_v hinder_v nor_o the_o pretend_a enjoyment_n thereof_o alter_v the_o decree_n of_o god_n predestination_n quest_n 18._o but_o may_v not_o consequence_n be_v admit_v to_o prove_v infant_n baptism_n answ_n in_o such_o a_o case_n as_o this_o of_o baptism_n where_o there_o be_v as_o quest_n 5_o 6_o 7._o have_v be_v prove_v a_o express_a command_n and_o example_n to_o the_o contrary_a consequence_n can_v be_v admit_v of_o lest_o we_o shall_v 9.20_o shall_v rom._n 9.20_o reason_v against_o god_n and_o resist_v his_o commandment_n quest_n 19_o wherein_o do_v we_o resist_v or_o reason_n against_o the_o command_n of_o christ_n in_o infant-sprinkling_a answ_n in_o baptise_v of_o a_o infant_n when_o we_o be_v command_v to_o baptize_v a_o teach_v disciple_n 1._o we_o bring_v the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n in_o question_n as_o though_o he_o shall_v forget_v to_o except_v against_o a_o child_n by_o name_n have_v in_o the_o teach_v disciple_n already_o except_v against_o both_o the_o ignorant_a and_o infant_n as_o in_o wisdom_n god_n in_o only_o command_v the_o male_a to_o be_v circumcise_v the_o female_a though_o not_o otherwise_o except_v against_o be_v express_o exclude_v again_o when_o christ_n say_v baptise_v a_o teach_v disciple_n for_o we_o by_o consequence_n to_o interpret_v this_o command_n to_o belong_v to_o suck_a child_n be_v to_o make_v christ_n guilty_a of_o a_o implicit_a contradiction_n or_o to_o deny_v confound_v gainsay_v or_o confute_v himself_o as_o to_o say_v a_o wise_a fool_n therefore_o no_o consequence_n whereby_o we_o will_v uphold_v infant-sprinkling_a ought_v in_o contradiction_n to_o christ_n command_n be_v at_o all_o pretend_a but_o as_o christian_n in_o this_o ordinance_n of_o baptism_n we_o must_v have_v the_o faith_n of_o abraham_n or_o believe_v according_a to_o the_o example_n of_o abraham_n to_o submit_v to_o christ_n express_a 3.15_o express_a mat._n 28.19_o mark_v 16.15_o mat._n 3.15_o command_n as_o have_v be_v declare_v without_o any_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n quest_n 20._o why_o do_v man_n then_o usual_o for_o the_o most_o part_n rage_n against_o the_o baptise_v of_o believer_n only_o see_v it_o be_v according_a to_o the_o express_a command_n and_o example_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n answ_n because_o the_o election_n of_o grace_n before_o through_o 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