innocency_n and_o truth_n vindicated_n or_o a_o sober_a reply_n to_o mr_n will_v 's_o answer_v to_o a_o late_a treatise_n of_o baptism_n wherein_o the_o authority_n and_o antiquity_n for_o believer_n and_o against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v defend_v and_o the_o mis-representation_n and_o forgery_n he_o boast_v of_o all_o return_v upon_o himself_o with_o a_o brief_a answer_n to_o mr_n blinman_v essay_n by_o henry_n danvers_n ut_fw-la ex_fw-la lapidum_fw-la attritu_fw-la ignis_fw-la elicitur_fw-la sic_fw-la saepe_fw-la veritas_fw-la ex_fw-la alternantium_fw-la imo_fw-la &_o altercantium_fw-la sermonum_fw-la conflictu_fw-la lipsius_n prov._n 18.17_o he_o that_o be_v first_o in_o his_o own_o cause_n seem_v just_a but_o his_o neighbour_n come_v and_o search_v he_o print_a for_o francis_n smith_n at_o the_o elephant_n and_o castle_n near_o the_o royal_a exchange_n in_o cornhill_n 1675._o the_o preface_n it_o be_v a_o ancient_n and_o well_o approve_a maxim_n among_o the_o learned_a that_o 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infant_n baptism_n with_o divers_a other_o assert_v the_o same_o from_o pag._n 133._o to_o the_o 137._o to_o which_o mr._n will_n say_v pag._n 115._o 122._o that_o it_o be_v a_o false_a suggestion_n and_o exceed_v all_o modesty_n for_o although_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ascribe_v too_o much_o to_o tradition_n herein_o make_v it_o equal_a with_o the_o scripture_n yet_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v plead_v that_o it_o come_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o infant_n have_v right_a thereto_o from_o the_o right_n that_o the_o jew_n infant_n have_v to_o circumcision_n and_o that_o the_o protestant_n when_o they_o use_v the_o word_n tradition_n do_v it_o as_o the_o father_n before_o they_o in_o sensu_fw-la sano_fw-la in_o a_o wholesome_a sense_n quite_o different_a from_o the_o corrupt_a sense_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o which_o i_o say_v though_o mr._n will_n affirm_v baptism_n agreement_n betwixt_o papist_n &_o protestant_n about_o the_o tradition_n 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of_o the_o protestant_n also_o affirm_v viz._n that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v therefore_o call_v a_o tradition_n because_o it_o be_v not_o express_o deliver_v in_o the_o scripture_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptize_v infant_n nor_o any_o express_a precept_n they_o shall_v do_v so_o and_o that_o tradition_n be_v the_o practice_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v neither_o contain_v in_o scripture_n express_o nor_o the_o example_n of_o such_o practice_n express_o there_o deliver_v mr._n will_n p._n 108._o scripture_n 2._o papist_n a_o tradition_n gather_v from_o the_o scripture_n do_v the_o papist_n affirm_v that_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v a_o tradition_n or_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o that_o it_o be_v plain_o enough_o gather_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n viz._n from_o circumcision_n bellarm._n tom._n 3._o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr sacr._n c._n 8._o scripture_n protestant_n a_o tradition_n gather_v from_o the_o scripture_n so_o do_v mr._n will_n for_o the_o protestant_n say_v that_o 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aught_o to_o be_v esteem_v as_o firm_a and_o good_a as_o the_o scripture_n itself_o p._n 117._o do_v the_o papist_n teach_v author_n 4._o papist_n that_o the_o church_n the_o subject_n not_o author_n that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v the_o appointment_n of_o christ_n himself_o and_o practise_v of_o the_o apostle_n though_o no_o mention_n when_o it_o be_v give_v forth_o nor_o when_o and_o where_o practise_v treat_n bap._n 134._o so_o do_v also_o mr._n will_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o protestant_n affirm_v author_n protestant_n that_o the_o church_n the_o subject_n not_o the_o author_n that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v a_o apostolical_a practice_n and_o ordinance_n not_o that_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v the_o author_n but_o subject_a thereof_o christ_n himself_o have_v appoint_v it_o and_o approve_v thereof_o though_o not_o where_o write_v p._n 119._o five_o do_v the_o papist_n maintain_v ancient_n 5._o papist_n testefied_a by_o the_o ancient_n that_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o 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that_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o practice_v in_o scripture_n for_o paedobaptism_n nor_o any_o just_a evidence_n for_o it_o for_o above_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o may_v it_o not_o be_v very_o well_o conclude_v in_o mr._n baxters_n word_n about_o confirmation_n that_o it_o be_v very_o suspicious_a to_o find_v in_o justin_n martyr_n description_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n practice_v no_o mention_n of_o it_o p._n 128._o so_o neither_o to_o find_v in_o justin_n martyr_n nor_o as_o mr._n tomb_n well_o observe_v the_o least_o of_o it_o in_o eusebius_n ignatius_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n athanasius_n or_o epiphanius_n be_v very_o good_a ground_n to_o conclude_v against_o it_o and_o reproof_n to_o mr._n calvin_n who_o say_v reprove_v mr._n calvin_n and_o mr._n marshal_v just_o reprove_v that_o there_o be_v no_o ancient_a writer_n that_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o original_a
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be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o the_o apostle_n say_v now_o your_o child_n be_v holy_a it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n which_o be_v baptize_v do_v as_o unspotted_a and_o faithful_a enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n where_o say_v he_o mark_v again_o how_o unworthly_a antipaedobatist_n abuse_v the_o father_n in_o say_v their_o strong_a argument_n for_o child_n baptism_n be_v from_o tradition_n which_o they_o fly_v too_o for_o want_v of_o scripture_n imply_v here_o be_v two_o scripture_n for_o infant_n baptism_n improve_v by_o this_o father_n one_o mat._n 19.14_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o the_o other_o because_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v baptize_v they_o be_v therefore_o holy_a allure_a to_o holiness_n of_o child_n mention_v by_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 7.14_o as_o though_o that_o be_v obtain_v by_o baptism_n and_o which_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_n also_o answer_v ∣_o ed._n 7_o to_o which_o i_o say_v &_o be_v not_o this_o excellent_o remark_v from_o this_o famous_a instance_n and_o anabaptist_n unworthiness_n too_o in_o take_v no_o more_o regard_n how_o well_o they_o prove_v infant_n baptism_n of_o old_a from_o the_o scripture_n but_o now_o this_o book_n of_o question_n father_v upon_o athanasius_n prove_v such_o a_o other_o fable_n as_o that_o goodly_a piece_n that_o be_v father_v upon_o dionysius_n it_o will_v only_o serve_v further_a to_o discover_v what_o invention_n the_o father_n of_o lie_n have_v by_o the_o work_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n not_o only_o to_o beget_v and_o usher_v in_o but_o to_o nurish_v and_o strengthen_v this_o illegetimate_a birth_n but_o the_o artifice_n also_o he_o have_v to_o time_n the_o several_a forgery_n viz_o dionysius_n for_o the_o first_o the_o pope_n decretal_n and_o justin_n martyr_n response_n for_o the_o second_o origen_n story_n for_o the_o three_o these_o question_n of_o athanasius_n for_o the_o four_o age._n and_o how_o ready_a and_o willing_a person_n be_v to_o this_o very_a time_n to_o catch_v up_o any_o of_o these_o lie_a fable_n to_o strengthen_v themselves_o in_o deceit_n nay_o there_o be_v good_a ground_n to_o believe_v that_o they_o know_v they_o so_o to_o be_v that_o so_o abuse_v the_o world_n therewith_o for_o how_o can_v mr._n will_n that_o be_v so_o well_o read_v in_o the_o magdeburg_n be_v ignorant_a how_o notable_o they_o have_v detect_v this_o cheat_n and_o the_o reason_n and_o ground_n they_o give_v of_o its_o spuriousness_n and_o therefore_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v so_o much_o worse_o in_o he_o to_o impose_v this_o fallacy_n a_o fresh_a and_o so_o to_o improve_v it_o too_o as_o though_o it_o be_v a_o piece_n of_o gospel_n know_v therefore_o beside_o what_o merningus_n and_o montanus_n say_v of_o its_o forgery_n of_o which_o i_o give_v you_o a_o hint_n pag._n 57_o whereof_o mr._n will_n will_v take_v no_o notice_n and_o what_o scultetus_n as_o mr._n tomb_n tell_v 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pag._n 65._o mention_v by_o he_o chap._n 7._o 1._o part_n pag._n 13._o and_o hint_v at_o also_o in_o his_o preface_n the_o quotation_n be_v to_o prove_v as_o he_o remark_n that_o adult_n baptism_n be_v then_o only_o practise_v in_o the_o eastern_a church_n which_o be_v two_o saying_n out_o of_o bazil_n one_o out_o of_o his_o 3._o book_n against_o eunomius_n viz._n must_v the_o faithful_a be_v seal_v with_o baptism_n faith_n must_v needs_o precede_v and_o go_v before_o and_o in_o his_o exhortation_n to_o baptism_n that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v but_o the_o catechuman_n and_o those_o that_o be_v due_o instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n upon_o which_o he_o say_v now_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o impose_v a_o fallacy_n upon_o any_o reader_n that_o have_v no_o acquaintance_n with_o that_o father_n and_o understand_v not_o in_o what_o sense_n he_o speak_v who_o will_v not_o think_v that_o this_o ancient_a doctor_n be_v against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o that_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v own_v in_o the_o church_n in_o his_o day_n very_o true_a
commentarii_fw-la adamantii_fw-la titulo_fw-la for_o so_o he_o seem_v to_o think_v whosoever_o he_o be_v who_o commentary_n be_v extant_a upon_o luke_n under_o the_o title_n of_o adamantius_n which_o show_v say_v he_o that_o erasmus_n take_v they_o not_o to_o be_v origen_n or_o at_o least_o doubt_v thereof_o vossius_fw-la vossius_fw-la and_o vossius_fw-la disputatio_fw-la 14._o sect._n 8._o p._n 181._o say_v thus_o have_v cite_v origen_n whole_a testimony_n out_o of_o luke_n etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la de_fw-la origene_n minus_fw-la laborabimus_fw-la quia_fw-la quae_fw-la citabimus_fw-la graece_fw-la non_fw-la extant_a but_o we_o care_v the_o less_o for_o origen_n because_o the_o thing_n we_o cite_v be_v not_o extant_a in_o the_o greek_a and_o scultetus_n scultetus_n scultetus_n in_o his_o medul_n pat._n l._n 6._o c_o 2._o cum_fw-la graeca_n originis_fw-la opera_fw-la non_fw-la extant_a hodie_fw-la &_o quibus_fw-la latina_n versio_fw-la corrigi_fw-la possit_fw-la &_o emendari_fw-la that_o origen_n work_v in_o greek_a be_v not_o at_o present_a extant_a by_o which_o the_o latin_a uâ—rsion_n may_v be_v correct_v and_o amend_v and_o erasmus_n erasmus_n erasmus_n atque_fw-la utinam_fw-la extarent_fw-la graeca_n originis_fw-la monument_n quo_fw-la ruffinicas_fw-la art_n possemus_fw-la deprehenâ—ere_fw-la and_o i_o wish_v that_o the_o greek_a copy_n of_o origen_n be_v extant_a that_o so_o we_o may_v thereby_o discover_v the_o cheat_v of_o ruffinus_n sin_n 3._o origen_n be_v more_o a_o pelagian_a tâ—â—n_n to_o assert_v original_a sin_n but_o serond_o there_o be_v good_a reason_n to_o question_n that_o those_o thing_n about_o infant_n baptism_n be_v not_o origen_n from_o the_o reason_n that_o be_v add_v to_o they_o viz._n to_o take_v away_o original_a sin_n whereas_o it_o be_v so_o well_o know_v that_o origen_n be_v not_o only_o a_o great_a arian_n but_o the_o very_a fountain_n and_o head_n of_o they_o as_o jerom_n and_o epiphanius_n call_v he_o magdeb._n century_n 3._o p._n 261._o etc._n etc._n but_o notorious_o do_v deny_v original_a sin_n as_o pag._n 265._o and_o therefore_o do_v doctor_n owin_n in_o his_o display_v of_o arianism_n ch_n 12._o say_v nor_n do_v origen_n pelaginise_v a_o little_a only_a but_o be_v suppose_v first_o to_o have_v bring_v pelaginisme_n into_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o do_v vossius_fw-la in_o his_o history_n of_o pelaginisme_n l._n 4._o th._n 6._o pag._n 153._o so_o much_o question_n whether_o those_o passage_n in_o his_o work_n mention_v infant_n baptism_n can_v be_v his_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o pelaginisme_n by_o all_o which_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o the_o judicious_a reader_n will_v conclude_v there_o be_v a_o good_a ground_n to_o judge_v this_o testimony_n of_o origen_n upon_o all_o these_o account_n to_o be_v as_o invallid_a and_o insignificant_a as_o the_o former_a and_o that_o as_o yet_o we_o have_v not_o the_o least_o evidence_n to_o prove_v this_o our_o unwriten_v tradition_n to_o be_v apostolical_a the_o last_o and_o chief_a examine_v cyprian_n testimony_n examine_v that_o be_v pretend_v to_o warrant_v this_o a_o apostolic_a tradition_n be_v that_o of_o cyprian_a in_o his_o and_o his_o 66._o bishop_n epistle_n to_o fidus_n who_o be_v place_v by_o usher_n in_o the_o middle_n of_o the_o three_o century_n 250._o wherein_o it_o be_v say_v to_o this_o purpose_n viz._n that_o it_o seem_v good_a not_o only_o to_o himself_o epistle_n a_o epitome_n of_o his_o epistle_n but_o a_o whole_a council_n that_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v before_o the_o eight_o day_n &_o the_o reason_n to_o enforce_v it_o be_v these_o that_o follow_n first_o because_o the_o baptism_n be_v simpe_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n second_o that_o it_o wash_v away_o original_a sin_n so_o as_o it_o be_v never_o to_o be_v impute_v more_o three_o because_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n be_v tender_v to_o all_o therefore_o all_o child_n shall_v be_v baptize_v four_o because_o child_n have_v lesser_a sin_n than_o other_o and_o so_o they_o need_v less_o pardon_n than_o man_n of_o grow_v year_n therefore_o less_o hindrance_n in_o they_o to_o come_v to_o god_n grace_n five_o because_o in_o their_o first_o birth_n they_o do_v nothing_o but_o pray_v by_o their_o cry_n and_o weep_v six_o because_o the_o soul_n that_o be_v not_o baptize_v be_v lose_v cypr._n l._n 3._o ep._n 8._o against_o which_o i_o give_v in_o three_o exception_n exception_n former_a exception_n first_o because_o infant_n baptism_n be_v not_o hereby_o urge_v for_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n nor_o upon_o any_o authority_n of_o scripture_n but_o upon_o his_o own_o and_z bishop_n argument_n as_o say_v such_o as_o they_o be_v to_o enforce_v it_o though_o if_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n his_o word_n will_v no_o more_o have_v be_v take_v then_o when_o he_o tell_v we_o chrism_n and_o other_o invention_n be_v so_o too_o second_o because_o there_o be_v ground_n to_o question_n whether_o there_o be_v any_o such_o 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congregation_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n their_o profess_v and_o declare_v open_o our_o faith_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n we_o esteem_v for_o a_o abomination_n and_o antichristian_a all_o humane_a invention_n as_o a_o trouble_n and_o prejudice_n to_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o spirit_n when_o humane_a tradition_n be_v observe_v for_o god_n ordinance_n then_o be_v he_o worship_v in_o vain_a as_o es_fw-ge 19_o matth._n 15._o and_o which_o be_v do_v when_o grace_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o external_n ceremony_n and_o person_n enjoin_v to_o partake_v of_o sacrament_n without_o faith_n and_o truth_n that_o antichrist_n attribute_n the_o regeneration_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n unto_o the_o dead_a outward_a work_n of_o baptise_v child_n into_o that_o faith_n and_o teach_v that_o thereby_o baptism_n and_o regeneration_n must_v be_v have_v ground_v therein_o all_o his_o christianity_n which_o be_v against_o the_o holy_a spirit_n what_o he_o make_v their_o confession_n to_o be_v p._n 45_o etc._n etc._n god_n have_v ordain_v certain_a sacrament_n to_o be_v join_v with_o the_o word_n as_o a_o mean_n to_o unite_v we_o unto_o and_o to_o make_v we_o partaker_n of_o his_o benefit_n and_o that_o there_o be_v only_o two_o of_o they_o we_o do_v believe_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n water_n be_v the_o visible_a and_o external_a sign_n which_o represent_v unto_o we_o that_o which_o be_v within_o viz._n renovation_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o mortification_n of_o our_o member_n in_o jesus_n christ_n we_o esteem_v for_o a_o abomination_n and_o antichristian_a all_o humane_a invention_n as_o a_o trouble_n and_o prejudice_n to_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o spirit_n when_o humane_a tradition_n be_v observe_v for_o god_n ordinance_n then_o be_v he_o worship_v in_o vain_a as_o es_fw-ge 19_o mat._n 15._o and_o which_o be_v do_v when_o grace_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o external_n ceremony_n and_o person_n enjoin_v to_o partake_v of_o sacrament_n without_o faith_n 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baptise_a party_n and_o that_o thereby_o they_o have_v union_n with_o christ_n and_o partake_v of_o his_o benefit_n pray_v how_o be_v that_o to_o be_v make_v good_a in_o any_o infant_n that_o have_v no_o actual_a knowledge_n faith_n or_o understanding_n supper_n 2._o nor_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n second_o do_v they_o indeed_o believe_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o belong_v in_o common_a with_o baptism_n to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n why_o then_o do_v not_o infant_n partake_v of_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o since_o it_o belong_v to_o they_o in_o common_a if_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o mr._n will_n say_v they_o be_v thereof_o 3._o nor_o to_o understand_v the_o symbol_n thereof_o three_o do_v paedobaptist_n with_o the_o waldenses_n believe_v as_o you_o say_v that_o water_n in_o baptism_n be_v the_o usual_a sign_n represent_v to_o the_o subject_n thereof_o the_o invisible_a virtue_n of_o god_n operate_n in_o they_o viz._n renovation_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o mortification_n of_o their_o member_n and_o can_v it_o be_v true_o say_v it_o be_v so_o to_o a_o infant_n that_o be_v not_o capable_a to_o put_v forth_o any_o act_n of_o faith_n repentance_n or_o mortification_n or_o discern_v any_o the_o least_o sign_n in_o the_o water_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n signify_v thereby_o four_o it_o 4._o nor_o to_o make_v confession_n of_o faith_n before_o it_o have_v they_o indeed_o a_o harmony_n with_o the_o waldenses_n in_o what_o further_o they_o confess_v concern_v this_o ordinance_n viz._n that_o by_o it_o tâ—ey_n be_v receive_v into_o the_o holy_a congregation_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n there_o profess_v and_o declare_v open_o their_o faith_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n but_o how_o be_v the_o infant_n capable_a with_o the_o waldensian_a christians_n not_o pagan_a convert_n to_o profess_v and_o declare_v open_o their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n and_o so_o to_o be_v receive_v into_o the_o congregation_n thereby_o five_o do_v 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