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A70113 Their highness the Prince & Princess of Orange's opinion about a general liberty of conscience, &c. being a collection of four select papers.; Correspondence. Selections Fagel, Gaspar, 1634-1688.; Stewart, James, Sir, 1635-1713. Correspondence. Selections.; Burnet, Gilbert, 1643-1715. 1689 (1689) Wing F93; Wing B5930; ESTC R3295 28,089 40

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themselves the R. C's have neither Hearts to keep firm to such a Resolution nor Hands to Execute it Since therefore They themselves have unhappily brought their Church into such Pre●pices by provoking the Dissenters it is in a particular manner their Duty as well as their laterest to endeavour to soften them by assisting the Letter and promoting the Design of it But if the old leaven still remain they continue to argue as formerly if the Surplice be parted with the Church of England is lost if the Penal Laws be repealed the Test will follow and comfort themselves with this most Christian reflection that the R. C. will not accept of what is offered them such men deserve all the misery that is preparing for them and will perish without Pity and give thinking Men occasion to remember the Proverb Beat a Fool or a Zealot in a Morter yet his Foolishness will not depart from him But the Dissenters ought not to be much concerned at this they have their own Bigots and the Church of England theirs there will be Tools whilst there are Workmen This a time for Wisdom to be justified of her Children when honest men ought to leave off minding the lesser Interests of this or that particular Church and joyn in securing the common Interest of the Protestant Religion And to conclude I would particularly beg of the Dissenters to make use of their best Judgment on this so critical an occasion which they will do in my opinion in keeping close to the contents of this Letter by endeavouring to obtain in a fair and legal way such a Liberty to all Perswasions as is the Natural Right of Freemen and as our Protestant Successors declare themselves willing to joyn in and if those who have an equal nay a greater Interest than themselves will not agree to such a Liberty because they will be Masters or nothing the Dissenters will have the comfort of having discharged their own Consciences as prudent Men and good Christians ought to do and may safely trust God with the Event Sir I thought I had made an end but looking your Letter over again I find I have forgot to answer a reason or two you give why you doubt whether the Letter be truly M. Fagels You are informed you say that such and such Great Men doubted of it but some might as well pretend to doubt of the Truth of that Letter tho they knew it to be true as believe Her Majesty to be with Child almost before she knew it Her self and that she was quick when the Embryo as Anatomists say is not much above an Inch long I don't think that Popish Successors like certain weeds grow faster than others The Persons you name may Trim and presume on their Merit least they might be thought capable of Resentment A dangerous Reflection I say their Merit you have seen a long relation of the great services some when they were in power did their Highnesses it is bound up with a relation of the true causes of their sufferings for their or rather their Highnesses Religion You know even how one of them the last Summer payed them his reverence with all the Respect and Humility of a due distance and with the same caution with which the Invincible Monarch fights out of Cannon shot But Sir though the character of a Trimmer be ordinarily the character of a Prudent Man there are times and seasons when it is not the Character of an Honest Man. I acknowledge that since their Highnesses Marriage nothing has hapned so much for the good of the Protestant Interest as this Letter of M. Fagels and if I had been either the Writer or Adviser of it I should be very proud of it and think the Nation much in my debt But Sir that was not a very good reason to make you doubt of it for a good cause will have its time tho not so often as a bad one which hath ordinarily the Majority on its side I am confident at present we have all the reason in the world to expect it for my own part though I am neither young nor strong I hope to live to see a day of Jubilee in England for all that deserve it when honest men shall have the same pleasure in thinking on these times that a Woman happily delivered hath in reflecting on the pain and danger she was in But Knaves shall remember them as I am told the damned do their sins Cursing both them and themselves Sir I am Yours January 12 1688. A Letter Writ by Mijn Heer Fagel Pensioner to the Great and Mighty Lords the States of Holland and Westfriesland Writ in French on the 9th of April N. Stile 1688. To the Marquiss of Albeville Envoy Extraordinary of His Majesty of Great Britain to the High and Mighty the States General of the Vnited Provinces To which is prefixt an Account in Dutch of the Letter Writ by Mijn Heer Fagel on the 4th of November in the year 1687. to Mr. Stewart written by the said Pensioner and Published by his Order Printed at the Hague by James Scheltus Printer to the States of Holland and Westfriesland Translated out of the French and Dutch into English READER I Gaspar Fagel having the honour to serve the Great and Mighty States of Holland and Westfriesland in the Quality of their Pensioner cannot any longer delay the giving the Publick this account that in the month of July last 1687. I was very earnestly desired by Mr. James Stewart Advocate to write to him what were the Prince and Princess of Orange's Thoughts concerning the repealing the Test and the Penal Laws but I was not easily brought to put Pen to Paper on this subject because I knew that their Highnesses Thoughts did not agree with his Majesties so that the writing in such matters was extream tender therefore I delayed it till I was more earnestly pressed to it and it was Intimated to me that those pressing desires were made by His Majesties Knowledge and Allowance at last I did according to the mind of their Highnesses draw the Letter which I writ to Mr. Stewart on the 4th of November I transmitted the draught of my Letter to their Highnesses and received upon it their order to send it after that their Highnesses had read and examined the draught in Dutch together with the Translation of it into English upon all this I sent my Letter to Mr. Stewart in the beginning of November and received an answer from him by which he signified that he had shewed my Letter both to the Earl of Melfort and to the Earl of Sunderland and that it was also shewed to the King himself nor did he in the least intimate to me that it was desired that I should make any great secret of it or take care that it should not become publick That Letter was afterwards about the middle of January Printed in England and upon its coming over into this Country it has occasioned a great
I am obliged to undeceive the world of the false accusation with which I am charged in it And I thought Sir that I could not do this better than by writing to you that are His Majestys Minister and who know perfectly the truth of the matter that is now called in question and therefore I desire you will write concerning it to the Earl of Sunderland I believe he has not seen or at least that he has not considered the passages of that Book that do concern me For I am sure if he had done that he would never have Licensed it for my Lord Sunderland knows as well as any man alive does that my Letter to Mr. Stewart is no Pretended Piece he himself saw the Letter or at least the English Translation of it that I sent along with it And he could not but know likewise both by your Letters and by what you told by word of mouth that their Highnesses and in particular Her Royal Highness have often owned to you their sense of the Test and the Penal Laws conform to that which I writ in their name to Mr. Stewart So I do persuade my self that My Lord Sunderland will have the Justice and Goodness to recall this Licence which has been obtained of him by a surprise and that the Author of so manifest and so Injurious a Calumny shall be punished as he deserveth I will not likewise conceal from you the design I have of publishing an account of all that has passed in this matter as well as of this Letter which I take the liberty now to write to you in which my design is not to enter into any dispute concerning the matter it self much less to offend any person whatsoever but only to cover my Honour which is struck at by this attrocious Calumny I am Sir your most humble and most obedient Servant GASPAR FAGEL To all which this Attestation of the Printer is added I the under subscribing James Scheltus Printer in Ordinary to the Great and Mighty Lords the States of Holland and Westfriesland dwelling in the Hague do declare and attest by these presents that the Writing here published together with the Copy of the Letter writ in French to the Marquis of Albeville Envoy Extraordinary of His Majesty of Great Brittain to the States were delivered into my hands in order to their being Printed by Mijn Heer Gasper Fagel Pesioner to the above named Lords and States of Holland and Westfriesland and that I have printed them by his express Order At the Hague the 10th of April 1688. J. SCHELTUS Some Extracts out of Mr. James Stewart's Letters which were communicated to Mijn Heer Fagel the States Pensionary of the Province of Holland Together with some References to Mr. Stewart's Printed Letter MR. Stewart staid about seven Months after he had received the Pensionary's Letter before he thought fit to write any Answer to it and then instead of sending one in writing to the Pensioner or in a Language understood by him he has thought fit by a Civility peculiar to himself to Print an Answer in English and to send it abroad into the World before the Pensioner had so much as seen it The many and great Affairs that press had upon that Eminent Minister together with a sad want of Health by which he has been long afflicted have made that he had not the leisure to procure Mr. Stewart's Letter to be translated to him and to compare the Matters of Fact related to in it with the Letters that were writ the last year by Mr. Stwatr which are in his Possession nor did he think it necessary to make too much haste And therefore if he has let as many Weeks pass without ordering an Answer to be prepared as the other had done Months he thought that even this Slowness might look like one that despised this indecent Attempt upon his Honour that Mr. Stewart has made in giving so unjust a Representation of the matter of Fact. He hopes he is too well known to the World to apprehend that any Persons would entertain the hard Thoughts of him which Mr. Stewart's late Print may have offered to them and therefore he has proceeded in this matter with the Slowness that he thought became his Integrity since a greater Haste might have look'd like one that was uneasy because he knew himself to be in Fault As for the reasoning part of Mr. Stewart's Paper he has already expressed himself in his Letter to Mr. d' Albeville that he will not enter into any Arguing upon those Points but will leave the Matter to the Judgement of every Reader therefore he has given order only to examine those Matters of Fact that are set forth in the beginning of Mr. Stewart's Letters that that so the World may have a true Account of the Motives that induced him to write his Letter to Mr. Stewart from the words of Mr. Stewart's own Letters And then he will leave it to the Judgment of every Reader whether Mr. Stewart has given the Matter of Fact fairly or not It is true the Pensioner has not thought fit to print all Mr. Stewart's Letters at their full length there are many Particulars in them for which he is not willing to expose him And in this he has shewed a greater Regard to Mr. Stewart than the Usage that he has met with from him deserves If Mr. Stewart has kept Copies of his own Letters he must see that the Pensioners Reservedness is rather grounded on what he thought became himself than on what Mr. Stewart has deserved of him But if Mr. Stewart or any in his name will take Advantages from this that the Letters themselves are not published and that here there are only Extracts of them offered to the World then the Pensioner will be excused if he Prints them all to a Tittle The Truth is it is scarce conceivable how Mr. Stewart could assume the Confidence that appears in his printed Letter if he have kept Copies of the Letters that he writ last-Year And if he engaged himself in Affairs of such Importance without keeping Copies of what he writ it was somewhat extraordinary And yet this Censure is that which falls the softest on him But I will avoid every thing that looks like a sharpness of Expression for the Pensioner expects that he who is to give this Account to the English Nation should rather consider the Dignity of the Post in which he is than the Advantages that Mr. Stewart may have given for replying sharply on him And in this whole matter the Pensioner's chief Concern is to offer to the World such a Relation of the Occasions that drew his Letter to Mr. Stewart from him as may justify him against the false Insinuations that are given He owed this likewise as an Expression of his Respect and Duty to their Highnesses in whose Name he wrote his Letter and at whom all those false Representations are levelled though they fall first and immediately upon