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A46403 A justification of the directors of the Netherlands East-India Company as it was delivered over unto the high and mighty lords the States General of the United Provinces, the 22d of July, 1686 : upon the subject and complaint of Mr. Skelton, Envoy Extraordinary from the King of Great Brittain, touching the affair of Bantam, and other controversies at Macassar, and on the coast of Mallabar and at Gamron, in the Gulf of Persia : likewise a justification in answer to the several memorials lately given unto the States General by the Marquess of Albeville, touching Meslepatam and other places in the Indies / translated out of Dutch by a good friend for the satisfaction of all such as are impartial judges of the matters now in dispute between the two companies. Nederlandsche Oost-Indische Compagnie.; Good friend.; Dam, Pieter van, 1621-1706. 1688 (1688) Wing J1259; ESTC R12898 44,960 84

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But on the contrary the Day before Yesterday when we stopt the Persian Bark which would have passed our Fleet we proffered your Truchman David all our own Boats for to help the said Ship to unlade both because we would not hinder them in their Affairs as also to secure our own Ships from the threatned Mischiefs which by the swerving of the Enemies Boats pretending to come in the Name and by the Order of the English might have befallen us But it seemeth you were rather prone thus unjustly to accuse us that we should have detained your Goods which were only the two Cases of Rose-water than to embrace the kind Proffer of our Boats. The said David your Truchman took the two Cases into the Scute wherein he came from Land at the same time the Bark came on Board of us and himself carried them away with him And forasmuch as it seemeth to be your wonted manner by intricate and practised Insertions to render things obscure this your ungrounded Accusations are not strange unto us as having since this Expedition with much Patience born all the Calumnious Reproaches wherewith you have a long time sought to make us odious to the Persian Nation to retard our Agreement with them Especially promising them to make us with six of your Ships to retire out of this Road and out of Kismus Of all which we have sufficient Proofs to shew and withal to make it appear we had not given you the least Reason or Provocation thereto All which hath been to the apparent Damage of our Company And besides this ye seek also to constrain us to let our Enemies Barks to pass and repass our Fleet. Wherefore in the Name of the Netherlandish East-Indie Company we do Protest we are Innocent of all the Blood Slaughter Losses and Inconveniences which shall result from thence on the one or other Hand Given in our Ship the Blaw-Hulck laying in the Road before Gamron Was Signed R. Kasembroot W. Licochton J. V. Ackersdijk and W. van Bullestraten Contra Protest against John Goldsborough Master of the Ship called the Bengale Merchant THE first of June Old Stile was delivered unto us by them hereunto appointed your Protest which having considered we do find in it many things are mistaken and by you pressed contrary to Truth and therefore judge it unnecessary to give any Answer thereunto than what was done by our Insinuation and Protest delivered over the thirteenth and fourteenth of May N. S. to the English Residents Daniel Edwards and Francis Snape of which herewith a Copy is inserted and wherein the True State of things is fully contained and to which therefore we refer our selves However we profess to be blameless that you by mis-sailing to Shoar came to touch ground once and again with your Ship as not being to be imputed to us but your own unadvisedness Besides we did never forbid or withstand that any Barks should come to you to fetch Ballast and is therefore the fault of the P●rsians to whom the loss of time you say to have been hindred by it is also to be imputed and not to us And withal would let you know we are not such unqualified Persons as you are pleased to term us which rather may be imputed to you as sufficiently appears by your unreasonable Protest and therefore are not any whit troubled in case any Dispute do arise thereabout between you and our Company to be able as having Justice and Truth ●n our side to Answer what hath been done Wherefore we Protest in the Name and on behalf of the Netherlandish East-Indie Company against you John Goldsborough Master of the Ship called the Bengale Merchant and against all other whoever they be ●r whom it may concern that we are blameless and not b●und to make satisfaction of your ungrounded Pretences or ●hat any one may unjustly lay to our Charge Given in our Ship the Blaw-Hulck lying in the Road before Gamron the 19th June 1685. S. N. There stood underneath and was Signed Reinier Kasembroot and Wouter van Bullestraten In the Margin Delivered by us underwritten And was Signed Andries van der Linden and Jacob Stuyt EXTRACT out of the Register of the Resolutions of the High and Mighty Lords the States General of the Vnited Provinces Thursday the 18 July 1686. IT being deliberated by Resumption upon the Memorial delivered up by the Directors of the East-Indie Company of these Countries the 22. of June past unto their Puissant Highnesses containing the consequents and for satisfaction to their Puissant Highnesses Resolution of the 31. May past their Information upon the Memorial of Mr. Skelton Envoy Extraordinary of his Royal Majesty of Great Brittain to this State delivered up the second of the said Month to their Puissant Highnesses touching the affairs of Bantam it is understood and found meet by these to request and give Commission to the Lords van Els and the other Deputies of their Puissant Highnesses for Outlandish Affairs to signifie to Mr. Skelton Envoy Extraordinary that the differences concerning what hath past at Bantam in the year 1682 being arisen to the state they are now fallen to his said Majesty and their Puissant Highnesses they are prepared and ready to tread into a Conference and Treaty thereof with the said Mr. Skelton so he be authorised thereto in behalf of his Majesty or else with them whom his said Majesty shall be pleased to authorise thereto and in that Conference and Treaty to shew that their Puissant Highnesses have no other meaning and intention than to preserve and cultivate with his said Majesty and Subjects an entire Amity and that they pretend not to do any wrong unto his Majesties Subjects Hereunder stood Agreeth with the foresaid Register Was subscribed H. FAGEL EXTRACT out of the Register of the Resolutions of the High and Mighty Lords the States General of the Vnited Provinces Tuesday 1. July 1687. Was read at the Assembly the Memorial of the Marquis of Albiville Extraordinary Envoy of his Majesty of Great Brittain requiring reparation for what passed at Bantam according to what is here inserted word for word High and Mighty Lords AS there is nothing which may contribute more efficaciously to the maintenance and establishment of Leagues and Alliances made between Kings and States than a just and prompt reparation of the Wrong Injuries and Loss●s which the Subjects of one receive from the other Therefore the Marquis of Albiville Envoy Extraordinary of the King of Great Brittain findeth himself commanded by the Order of the King his Master to put your Highnesses in remembrance of the most considerable losses enormous Injuries and the Honour of his Subjects most sensibly wounded by the surreptitious ungodly and insupportable proceedings of the East Indie Company of this State at Bantam and to require without further delay an entire Satisfaction proportionable to the Enormity of the attempt and to the Losses which the Subjects of his said Majesty have suffered Given at the
Hague the 30. June in the year 1687. Signed The Marquiss of Albiville Which being deliberated upon it is found good and understood That a Copy of the foresaid Memorial shall be put into the hands of the Lords Everwyn and other their Puissant Highnesses Deputies for the affairs of the East Indie Comprny to visit and examine the Commissioners of the Directors of the said Company thereof to hear as also to take the Considerations and most wise Advice of his Highness the Prince of Orange and to make report of the whole to the Assembly here and that forthwith an Extract of this their Puissant Highnesses Resolution and a Copy of the foresaid Memorial shall be sent to the Directors of the said East Indie Company of the Praesidial Chamber at Amsterdam and therewith written to them that against this day fortnight which shall be the 15 of the present Month they send hither some Commissioners well instructed upon the foresaid subject that so the next day early in the morning the said business may be taken in hand Was Paragraphed B. van Scheltinga Lower stood Agreeth with the foresaid Register Was signed H. Fagel EXTRACT out of the Register of the Resolutions of the High and Mighty Lords the States General of the Vnited Netherlands Wednesday 23 July 1687. WAS heard the report of the Lords Verbolt and other their Puissant Highnesses Deputies for Outlandish affairs having in order and to satisfying of their Resolution as commissionated the 1. of this present visited and examined the Memorial of the Marquis of Albiville Envoy Extraordinary of his Majesty of Great Brittain to this State by which he requireth reparation for what is passed at Bantam more largely mentioned in the said Memorial and in the brief notes of this present upon which having deliberated is found good and understood that to the said Marquis of Albiville for answer to the said Memorial shall be insinuated that their Puissant Highnesses by their Resolution 18. July of the year past 1686. have declared to Mr. Skelton as then his Majesties Envoy Extraordinary to this State that the differences about what passed at Bantam in June 1682. being arisen to the State that they were devolved to his said Majesty and their puissant Highnesses they are prepared and ready to enter into a Conference and Treaty thereabout with the forementioned Mr. Skelton if that he on the part of his Majesty be authorised thereunto or otherwise with such as his said Majesty should be pleased to authorise and in that Conference and Treaty to shew That their Puissant Highnesses have no other meaning nor intention than to maintain and cultivate with the said Majesty and his Subjects an intire Amity and that they do not pretend to do any wrong to his Majesties Subjects and that therefore their Puissant Highnesses could not have expected otherwise from the justice of His Majesty but that the said Conference should have been set on foot and some person thereunto authorised and now as yet they adhere to renew the foresaid declaration and say that they still are ready to enter into Conference and Treaty about the foresaid Differences with the said Marquis of Albiville in case he on the part of his Majesty be authorised thereto or otherwise with such as his Majesty shall be pleased to authorise and in those Conferences and Treaties to shew that they have no other meaning nor intention than to preserve and cultivate with his Majesty and Subjects an intire Friendship and pretend not to do or suffer any wrong be done unto His Majesties Subjects and therefore they cannot conceive or apprehend what the foresaid Memorial and the terms in which it is couched would have or signify And an Extract of this their Puissant Highnesses Resolution shall by the Agent Sproussen be delivered into the hands of the Marquis of Albeville to serve for his Information thereof to make use so and where it shall be thought fit and also an Extract of this their Puissant Highnesses Resolution shall be sent to the Lord Citters their Puissant Highnesses Ambassador at the Court of His Majesty the King of Great Britain to be subservient unto his Information Was paragraphed Vnderneath stood Accordeth with the aforesaid Register Sighned Francis Verbolt H. FAGEL EXTRACT out of the Register of the Resolutions of the High and Mighty Lords the States General of the Vnited Netherlands Friday the 1. Augusti 1687. WAS read at the Assembly the Memorial of the Marquis of Albiville Envoy Extraordinary of His Majesty of Great Britain to this State together with an Appendix containing Complaints against the East-Indie Company of these Countries as to what should have been attempted at Metocapatans and at Baktancapas according to the said Memorial and the Appendix inserted hereby from word to word Fiat insertio Whereupon being deliberated was found good and understood that a Copy of the aforesaid Memorial and Appendix shall be sent to the Directors of the East-Indie Gompany of the Praesidial Chamber of Amsterdam for to address an information thereupon to their Puissant Highnesses and nevertheless also a Coppy and Appendix thereof shall be delivered into the hands of the Lords Verbolt and other their Puissant Highnesses Deputies for outlandish affairs to revise examine and make report of the whole here at the Assembly Was Paragraphed John Vander Bergh ut Vnderneath stood Agreeth with the aforesaid Register Was signed H. FAGEL Memorial of the Marquis of Albiville Exhibited the 1st of August 1687. High and Mighty Lords THE Marquis of Albiville Envoy Extraordinary of the King of Great Britain hath received new orders from the King his Master to signify to your Lordships the continuance of new injustices and violences offered by your Company of the East-Indies at Mechapatans and Batancapas as they shall see by the adjoyned writing containing the Particulars thereof And as his Majesty findeth himself informed of the Answer of your Highnesses the 23d of the Month past unto the preceding Memorial of his abovesaid Envoy is willing to believe that these things have been committed without your knowledg so likewise he doth not doubt but they are of ill savor and disapproved by your Highnesses and that he cannot but expect from your justice and friendship the r●p●ration of these infractions and the damages which the Subjects of His Majesty have suffered in these quarters His Majesty will willingly also be perswaded by the assurances which the said Memorial giveth him that your Highnesses will not neglect to send precise and effectual Orders to the end 〈◊〉 for the future the like attempt be no more used 〈…〉 means to maintain a good intelligence betwixt 〈◊〉 Majesty and this Commonwealth to which His Majesty 〈◊〉 part shall not fail to contribute always what in reason may be desired of him Given at the Hague this 〈◊〉 August 1687. Signed Marquis of ALBIVILLE APPENDIX THE English East-Indie Company in a Request they presented to His Majesty of Great Britain June 29. 1687. say they have had advice
A JUSTIFICATION OF THE DIRECTORS OF THE Netherlands East-India Company As it was delivered over unto the High and Mighty Lords the States General of the Vnited Provinces the 22d of July 1686. Upon the Subject and Complaint of Mr. Skelton Envoy Extraordinary from the King of Great Brittain touching the Affair of Bantam and other Controversies at Macassar and on the Coast of Mallabar and at Gamron in the Gulf of Persia Likewise a JUSTIFICATION in Answer to the several Memorials lately given unto the States General by the Marquess of Albeville touching Meslepatam and other Places in the Indies Translated out of Dutch by a good Friend for the Satisfaction of all such as are Impartial Judges of the Matters now in dispute between the two Companies Printed at LONDON in the Year 1687. LONDON Printed for Samuel Tidmarsh near the Royal Exchange 1688. TO THE HIGH and MIGHTY LORDS THE STATES GENERAL OF THE UNITED NETHERLANDS High and Mighty Lords IN obedience to your Highnesses Letter addressed the 30th May 1686. unto the Praesidial Chamber of the East-India Company at Amsterdam being pleased to command the said Company in Relation to your Highnesses Resolution of the same Date to transmit with the very first an Information unto a certain Memorial presented by Mr. Skelton Envoy Extraordinary of his Royal Majesty of Great Brittain unto your Highnesses the second of the said Month touching the Business of Bantam and moreover containing Complaints of what passed in the East-Indies at Gamron Mallabar and Macassar with demand of Reparation Hereupon the Regents or Directors of the said Compan● of this Nation have with all due Respect this to say First Concerning the first Point specifying th● Business of Bantam That although your Puissant Highnesses may very well remember all what hath hapned and passed since the Month of May 1683 when firs● those Clamours and heavy Complaints were made by Mr. C●udlie Extraordinary Envoy in the Assembly o● your Puissant Highnesses and thereupon soon after more fully dilated and deduced by Sir John Chardin both viv●●voce and in Writing Nevertheless assuring our selves that it will not be unacceptable to your Puissant Highnesses that the said Memorial be again somewhat afresh reiterated the aforesaid Regents of the East-India Netherlands Company will with Permission of your Puissant Highnesses make a short Recital First of what in the beginning was done here in Holland by Conference and Treaties and also afterwards continued and further Progress thereof made in England by the Lord Ambassador Citters according to the Order given him by your Puissant Highnesses and consequently of the Proceedings held in England by Committees on both sides and what further was acted in the same and so come to the Principal Matter to demonstrate as briefly as possibly may be how unreasonable and wholly ungrounded those Complaints are which in the beginning were so clamorous and then will fully justifie the Government of Batavia in their Managements and Proceedings in those Affairs What concerns the first Mr. Chudlie Extraordinary Envoy by his Memorial of the 25th of May of the aforesaid Year 1683 complained to your Puissant Highnesses that the Government of Batavia had in a manner altogether extraordinary outragiously dealt● with the English East-India Company and by main force driven them out of their ancient Place of Residence at Bantam and that in so strange a manner that not any one Example a thing rather to be buried in silence than related of the like nature can be produced And therefore requiring that the said Netherlandish Company should be obliged to draw back their Troops out of Bantam re-establishing the English there again and to make Reparation of the Losses by them sustained But Sir John Chardin beforementioned who by the foresaid English East-India Company was s●nt hither in Commission did somewhat mitigate these Complaints apparently because they were so horrible Extravagant And instead of accusing the Government of Batavia as if they had driven the English out of Bantam did content himself to say that it happened through the Suggestion and Counsel of Major St. Martin who commanded the Netherlandish Troops at Bantam in Chief and that it was he that d●sposed the King to put forth the English out of Ban●●● And although all he affirmed was without any Proof but only grounded on a Conjecture yet that which is to be wondred at is that he would form a Publick Memorial on so slight and weak Grounds And although the Bewinthebbers were at that time infurnished with such Elucidation of Matters as is requisite not yet having then any of their Ships re●●●ed out of India and what they knew in the Business was by Letters only sent in English Ships from England where the said Letters were held up some 〈◊〉 the Seals broken and opened and then afterward ●●●nded to the Correspondent of the Netherlandish Company at London notwithstanding they omitted not according to the knowledg they had attained to give your Highnesses Informations and Answers to their Complaints Whereupon your Puissant Highnesses having given an Answer to the said Chudlie and Chardin unto which the English Company in some passages of their Writing do appeal soon after with the good liking of your Puissant Highnesses a Treaty began with the forenamed Chardin and the Netherlandish Company and the Business was so far advanced that on both sides a final Agreement was assuredly expected whereas on a sudden Mr. Chudlie and Sir John Chardin pretending to have Command and Order from their King to put a stop to the Business the aforesaid Treaties here was unexpectedly broken off however was with Consent of your Puissant Highnesses who desired nothing more than to compose and conclude if possible this matter in a Friendly way continued in England whereunto the Lord Ambassador Citters was furnished with full Order and Power both from your Puissant Highnesses as also from the Company here But hereupon the English hightning their Demands and as appeared afterward even in their Reply of which shall be spoken hereafter they avowed to have other Designs intending to re-establish themselves at Bantam unto which end in the latter part of the Year 1683 they prepared a great Fleet well manned to effect the same but this their Design as themselves affirm and complain that they might not put it in Execution as being hindred by the now deceased King of happy Memory Hereupon this Treaty was stopt and no further Progress made therein until at length it pleased his said Majesty to make way for the prosecuting of the Agreement prescribed Anno 1674 between his Majesty and this State to wit That the Differences should be determined and composed by Committees on both sides who to that end according to the aforesaid Convention were to assemble together at London The which being also approved by your Puissant Highnesses there was erected a Tribunal Court consisting of Eight Committees Four on each part before whom after that the Parties on both sides had divers times appeared about