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A46402	A justification of the directors of the Netherlands East Indie Company As it was delivered over unto the high and mightly lords the States General of the United Provinces, the 22th of July, 1686. Upon the subject and complaint of Mr. Skelton, Envoye Extraordinary from the King of Great Brittain, touching the affair of Bantam, and other controversies at Macassar, and on the coast of Mallabar and at Gamron, in the Gulf of Persia. Likewise a justification in anwser to the several memorials lately given unto the States General by the Marques of Albeville, touching Meslepatam and other places in the Indies. Translated out of Dutch by a good friend, for the satisfaction of all such as are impartial judges of the matters now in dispute between the two companies.		1687 (1687)	Wing J1258A; ESTC R217123	63,452	144

with Persian goods but on the contrarie the day before yesterday when we stopt the Persian Barq which would have passed our fleet we proffered your Truchman David all our own boats for to help the said ship to unlade both because we would not hinder them in their affaires as also to secure our own ships from the threatned mischiefs which by the swarving of the Enemies boats pretending to com in the name and by the order of the English might have befallen us But it seemeth you were rather prone thus unjustly to accuse us that we should have detained your goods which were onely the two cases of Rosewater then to embrace the kinde proffer of our Boats The said David your Truchman tooke the two Cases into the scute wherin he came from land at the same time the the barck came abord to us and himself caried them away with him And for as much as it seemeth to be your wonted manner by intricate and practised insertions to render things obscure this your ungrounded accusations are not strange unto us as having since this expedition with much patience born all the calumnious reproches wherewith you have a long time sought to make us odious to the Persian Nation to retard our agreement with them Espetially promising them to make us with six of your ships to retire out of this Rode and out of Kismus of al which we have suffitient proofs to shew and withal to make it appeare we had not given you the least reason or provocation thereto Al which hath bin to the apparent dammage of our Companie and besides this yee seek also to constrain us to let our Enemies barcks to pas and repas our fleet Wherefore in the name of the Netherlandish East-Indie Companie we doe Protest we are innocent of al the blood slaughter losses and inconveniences which shall result from thence on the one or other hand Given in our ship the Blaw-Hulck laying in the Rode before Gamron Was signed R Kasembroot W Licochton J V Ackersdijck and W van Bullestraten Contra-Protest against John Golds-bourough Master of the Ship called the Bengale Marchant THe first of June Old stile was delivered unto us by them thereunto appointed your Protest which having considered we do find in it many things are mistaken and by you pressed contrary to trueth and therefore judge it unnecessary to give any answer thereunto then what was don by our Insinuaion and Protest delivered over the thirteenth and fourteenth of May N. S. to the English Residents Daniel Edwards and Francis Snape of which herewith a Copie is inserted and wherein the true state of things is fully conteined and to which therefore we referre our selves however we profess to be blameless that you by missailing to shore came to touch ground once again with your Ship as not being to be imputed to us but your own unadvisedness Besides we did never forbid or withstand that any Barcks should come to you to fetch Ballast and is therefore the fault of the Persians to whom the losse of time you say to have bin hindred by it is also to be imputed and not to us and withall would let you know we are not such unqualifyed persons as you are pleased to terme us which rather may be imputed to you as sufficiently appeares by your unreasonable Protest and therefore are not any whit troubled in case any dispute doe arise thereabout between you and our Company to be able as having justice and truth on our side to answer what hath bin don Wherefore we Protest in the name and on behalf of the Netherlandish East-Indie Company against you John Golds-borough Master of the Ship called the Bengale Marchant and against all other whoever they be or whom it may concern that we are blameless and not bound to make satisfaction of your ungrounded pretences or what any one may unjustly lay to our charge Given in our Ship the Blaw Hulck laying in the Rode before Gamron the 19. June 1685. S. N. There stood underneath and was signed Reynier Kasembroot and Wouter van Bullestraten In the Margin Delivered by us underwritten And was signed Andries van der Linden and Jacob Stuyt EXTRACT out the Register of the Resolutions of the High and Mightie Lords the States General of the United Provinces Thursday the 18. Julie 1686. IT being deliberated by Resumption upon the Memorial delivered up by the Directors of the East-Indie Company of these Countries the 22. of June past unto their Puissant Highnesses containing the consequents and for satisfaction to their Puiss Highnesses Resolution of the 31. May past their Information upon the Memorial of Mr. Skelton Envoy Extraordinary of his Royal Majesty of Great Brittain to this State delivred up the second of the said Month to their Puiss Highnesses touching the affaires of Bantam it is understood and found meet by these to request and give Commission to the Lords van Els and the other Deputies of their Puissant Highnesses for Outlandish affaires to signifie to Mr. Skelton Envoy Extraordinary that the differences concerning what hath past at Bantam in the year 1682. being arisen to the State they are now fallen to his said Majesty and their Puiss Highnesses They are prepared and readie to tread into a Conference and treatie thereof with the said Mr. Skelton so he be authorised thereto in behalf of his Majesty or else with them whom his said Majesty shall be pleased to authorise thereto and in that Conference and Treatie to shew that their Puiss Highnesses have no other meaning and intention then to preserve and cultivate with his said Majesty and Subjects an entire amity and that they pretend not to do any wrong unto his Majesties Subjects Hereunder stood Agreeth with the foresaid Register Was subscribed H. FAGEL EXTRACT Out of the Register of the Resolutions of the High and Mightie Lords the States General of the United Provinces Twesday 1. July 1687. Was read at the Assembly the Memorial of the Marquis of Albiville Extraordinarie Envoy of his Majesty of Great Brittain requiring reparation for what passed at Bantam according to what is here inserted word for word High and Mightie Lords AS there is nothing which may contribute more efficaciously to the maintenance and estabishment of Leagues and Alliances made between Kings and States then a Just and and prompt reparation of the Wrong Injuries and Losses which the Subjects of one receive from the other Therefore the Marquis of Albiville Envoy Extraordinary of the King of Great Brittain findeth himself commanded by the Order of the King his Master to put your Highnesses in remembrance of the most considerable losses enormous Iniuries and the Honour of his Subjects most sensiblie wounded by the surreptitious ungodly and insupportable proceeding of the East-Indie Companie of this State at Bantam and to require without further delay an entire Satisfaction proportionable to the Enormitie of the attempt and to the Losses which the Subjects of his said Majesty have suffered Given

at the Hague the 30. June in the year 1687. Signed The Marquis of Albiville Which being deliberated upon it is found good and understood that a Copie of the foresaid Memorial shall be put into the hands of the Lords Everwyn and other their Puiss Highnesses Deputies for the affaires of the East-Indie Companie to visit and examin the Commissioners of the Directors of the said Company thereof to heare as also to take the Considerations and most wise Advise of his Highnesse the Prince of Orange and to make report of the whole to the Assemblie here and that forthwith an Extract of this their Puiss Highnesses Resolution and a Cope of the foresaid Memorial shall be sent to the Directors of the said East-Indie Companie of the Praesidial Chamber at Amsterdam and therewith written to them that against this day fortnight which shall be the 15. of the present Moneth they send hither som Commissioners wel instruct●d upon the foresaid subject that so the next d●● earlie in the morning the said business may be taken in hand Was paragraphed B. van Schelting● Lower stood Agreeth with the foresaid Register Was signed H. Fa●●● EXTRACT out of the Register of the Resolutions of the High and Mightie Lords the States General of the United Netherland Weddensday 23. July 168● WAs heard the report or the Lords Verbolt bolt and other their Puiss Highnesses Deputies for Outlandish affaires having in order and to satisfying of their Resolution as commissionated the 1. of this present visited and examined the Memorial of the Marquis of Albiville Envoy Extraordinary of his Majestie of Great Brittain to this State by which he requireth reparation for what is passed at Bantam more largely mentioned in the said Memorial and in the Brief notes of this present upon which having deliberated is found good and understood that to the said Marquis of Albeville for answer to the said Memorial shall be insinuated that their Puiss Highnesses by their Resolution 18. July of the year past 1686. have declared to Mr. Skelton as then his Majesties Envoy Extraordinary to this State that the differences about what passed at Bantam in Juin 1682 being arisen to the State that they were devolved to his said Majesty and their Puiss Highnesses they are prepared and readie to enter into a Conference and treatie thereabout with the fore mentioned Mr. Skelton if that he on the part of his Majesty be authorised thereunto or otherwise with such as his said Majestie should be pleased to authorise and in that Conference and Treatie to shew that their Puiss Highnesses have no other meaning nor intention then to maintain and cultivate with the said Majestie and his Subjects an entire amitie and that they doe not pretend to doe any wrong to his Majesties Subjects and that therefore their Puiss Highnesses could not have expected otherwise from the justice of His Majestie but that the said Conference should have been set on foot and some person thereunto authorised and now as yet they adhere to reniew the foresaid declaration and say that they still are readie to enter into Conference and treatie about the foresaid Differences with the said Marquis of Albiville in case he on the part of his Majesty be authorised thereto or otherwise with such as his Majestie shall be pleased to authorise in those Conferences and Treatises to shew that they have no other meaning nor intention then to preserve and cultivate with his Majesty and Subjects an entire Friendship and pretend not to do or suffer any wrong be don unto His Majesties Subjects and therefore they cannot conceive or apprehend what the foresaid Memorial and the terms in which it is couched would have or signifie And an Extract of this their Puiss Highnesses Resolution shall by the Agent Sproussen be delivered into the hands or the Marquis of Albiville to serve for his Information thereof to make use so and where it shall be thought fit and also an Extract of this their Puiss Highnesses Resolution shall be sent to the Lord Citters their Puiss Highnesses Ambassador at the Court of His Majesty the King of Great Brittain to be subservient unto his Information Was paragraphed Francis Verbelt Underneath stood Accordeth with the foresaid Register Signed H. FAGEL EXTRACT out of the Register of the Resolutions of the High and Mightie Lords the States General of the United Netherlands Friday the 1. Augusti 1687. WAs read at the Assemblie the Memorial of the Marquis of Albiville Envoy Extraordinarie of his Majestie of Great Brittain to this state together with an Appendix Containing complaints agaynst the East-Indie Companie of these countries as to what should have bin attempted at Metocapatans and at Baktancapas according to the said Memorial and the appendix inserted here by from word to word Fiat insertio Whereupon being deliberated was found good and understond that a Copie of the foresaid Memorial and appendix shal be sent to the Directors of the East-Indie Companie of the Prasidial Chamber of Amsterdam for to addresse an information thereupon to their Puissant Highnesses and nevertheles also a Copie and appendix thereof shal delivered into the hands of the Lords Verbolt and other their Puissant Highnesses Deputies for outlandish affaires to revise Examin and make report of the whole here at the Assemblie Was paragraphed John vander Bergh vt Underneah stood agreeth with the foresaid Register Was signed H. FAGEL Memorial of the Marquis of Albiville Exhibited the 1. August 1687. High and Mightie Lords THe Marquis of Abbiville Envoy Extraordinarie of the King of Great Brittain hath received niew orders from the King his Master to signifie to your Lordships the continuance of nieu injustices and violences offred by your Companie of the East-Indies at Mechapatans and Batancapas as they shal see by the adjoyned writing containing the Particulars thereof And as his Majestie findeth himselft informed of the answere of your Highnesses the 23 of the month past unto the preceding Memorial of his aboue said Envoy is willing to beleeve that these things have bin committed without your knowledge so like wise he doth not Doubt but they are of ill savor and disapproved by your Highnesses and that he cannot but expect from your justice and friendship the reparation of these infractions and the dammages which the Subjects of his Majestie have suffered in these quarters His Majestie wil willingly also be perswaded by the asseurances which the said Memorial giveth him that your Highnesse wil not neglect to send precise and Effectual orders to the end that for the future the like attempt be no more used as the fairest meanes to maintain a good intelligence betwixt His Majestie and this Commonwealth to which his Majestie on his part shal not fail to contribute allwayes what in reason may be desired of him Given at the Hague this 1. August 1687. Signed Marquis of ALBIVILLE APPENDIX THe English East-Indie Companie in a Request they presented to his Majesty of Great Britain 29. June 1687. say

A JUSTIFICATION OF The Directors of the Netherlands East Indie Company As it was delivered over unto the High and Mighty Lords the States General of the UNITED PROVINCES the 22th of July 1686. Upon the Subject and Complaint of Mr. SKELTON Envoye Extraordinary from the King of Great Brittain touching the affair of Bantam and other Controversies at Macassar and on the Coast of Mallabar and at Gamron in the Gulf of Persia Likewise a Justification in Answer to the seveveral Memorials lately given unto the States General by the Marques of Albeville touching Meslepatam and other Places in the Indies Translated out of Dutch by a good Friend for the Satisfaction of all such as are Impartial Judges of the matters now in dispute between the two Companies Printed at London in the Year 1687. To the High and Mightie Lords The STATES GENERAL Of the United Netherlands High and Mightie Lords IN obedience to your Highnesses Letter addressed the 30. May 1686. unto the Praesidial Chamber of the East-Indie Companie at Amsterdam being pleased to Command the sayd Companie in relation to your Highnesses Resolution of the same dato to transmit with the verie first an Information unto a certain Memorial presented by Mr. Skelton Envoy Extraordinarie of his Royal Majestie of Great Brittain unto your Highnesses the second of the said Month touching the Businesse of Bantam and moreover contayning complaints of what passed in the East-Indies at Gamron Mallabar and Macassar with demand of reparation hereupon the Regents or Directors of the sayd Companie of this Nation have with all due respect this to say First Concerning the first Point specifying the businesse of Bantam that although your Puissant Highnesses may verie well remember al what hath hapned and passed since the Month of May 1683 when first those Clamors and heavie complaints were made by Mr. Chudlie extraordinarie Envoy in the Assemblie of your Puissant Highnesses and thereupon soon after more fully dilated and deduced by Sr. John Chardin both viva voce and in writing Neverthelesse assuring our selves that it will not be unacceptable to your Pu. Highnesses that the sayd Memorial be again som what afresh reiterated the foresaid Regents of the East-Indie Netherlands Companie wil with permission of your Puis Highnesses make a short recital first of what in the beginning was don here in Holland by Conference and treatises and also afterward continued and further Progresse thereof made in England by the L. Ambassador Citters according to the order given him by your Puis Highnesses and consequentlie of the proceedings held in England by Committies on both sides and what further was acted in the same and so com to the Principal Matter to demonstrate as briefly as possiblie may be how unreasonable and wholie ungrounded those complaints are which in the beginning were so clamorous and then will fullie justifie the Goverment of Batavia in their management and proceedings in those affaires What Concerns the first Mr. Chudlie extraordinary Envoy by his Memorial of the 25. May of the fore-said year 1683 complained to your Puis Highnesses that the Government of Batavia had in a manner altogether extraordinarie outragiouslie delt with the English East-Indie Companie and by main force driven them out of their ancient place of residence at Bantham and that in so strange a manner that not any one Example a thing rather to be buried in silence then related of the like nature can be produced and therefore requiring that the said Netherlandish Companie should be obliged to draw back their Troupes out of Bantam reestablish the English there again and to make reparation of the losses by them sustayned But Sr. John Chardin before mentioned who by the foresaid English East-Indie Companie was sent hither in Commission did somwhat mitigate these complaints apparently because they were so horriblie extravagant and in stead of accusing the Government of Batavia as if they had driven the English out of Bantam did content himself to say that it happened through the suggestion and Counsel of Major St. Martin who commanded the Netherlandish Troups at Bantam in Chef and that it was he that disposed the King to put forth the English out of Bantam and although all he affirmed was without any proof but only grounded on a Conjecture yet that which is to be wondred at is that he would form a publick Memorial on so slight and weak grounds And although the Bewinthebbers were at that time unfurnished with such Elucidation of matters as is requisite not yet having then any of their Ships returned out of India and what they knew in the business was by Letters only sent in English Ships from England where the said Letters were held up some time the seals broken and opened and then afterward handed to the Correspondent of the Netherlandish Company at London notwithstanding they omitted not according to the knowledge they had attained to give your Highnesses Informations and Answers to their Complaints Whereupon your Pu. Highnesses having given an Answer to the said Chudlie and Chardin unto which the English Company in some passages of their Writing do appeal soon after with the good liking of your Pu. Highnesses a treatie began with the forenamed Chardin and the Netherlandish Companie and the business was so far avanced that on both sides a final agreement was assuredly expected whereas on a suddaine Mr. Chudlie and Sr. John Chardin pretending to have command and order from their King to put a stop to the business the foresaid Treatise here was unexpectedly broken of however was with consent of your Pu. Highnesses who desired nothing more then to compose and conclude if possible this matter in a friendly way continued in England whereunto the Lord Ambassador Citters was furnished with full Order and Power both from your Pu. Highnesses as also from the Companie here but hereupon the English Hightning their Demands and as appeared afterward even in their reply of which shall be spoken hereafter they avoued to have other designes intending to reestablish themselves at Bantam unto which end in the latter part of the year 1683. they prepared a great Fleet well manned to effect the same but this their design as themselves affirm complain that they might not put it in execution as being hindred by the now deceased King of happy Memorie hereupon this Treatise was stopt and no further progress made therein until at length it pleased his said Majesty to make way for the prosecuting of the agreement prescribed Anno 1674. between his Majesty and this State to wit that the differences should be determined and composed by Committies on both sides who to that end according to the foresaid Convention were to assemble together at London the which being also approved by your Pu. Highnesses there was erected a Tribunal Court consistng of eight Committies four on each part before whom after that the Parties on both sides had divers times appeared about the Praeliminaries and cases incident it was thought