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A26671 All the letters, memorials, and considerations concerning the offered alliance of the kings of England and France to the high and mighty Lords the states of the United Neatherlands, according to the several times when they were delivered with considerations on the said alliance and also reflections on the said considerations / faithfully translated from the Dutch copies printed at Haerlem by Barent Jansen... 1680 (1680) Wing A943; ESTC R10192 18,125 22

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ALL THE Letters Memorials AND CONSIDERATIONS Concerning the offered ALLIANCE Of the KINGS of England and France TO THE High and Mighty LORDS THE STATES OF THE UNITED NEATHERLANDS According to the several Times when they were delivered With Considerations on the said ALLIANCE and also Reflections on the said CONSIDERATIONS Faithfully Translated from the Dutch Copies printed at Haerlem by Barent Jansen Hoog Euys 1680. LONDON Printed for Robert Harford at the Angel in Cornhill near the Royal-Exchange 1680. The Heer Ambassadour Boreel to Pentioner Fagell Most Honourable and Noble Lord HAving been lately to visit the Marquess de Louvois who keeps his bed of a broken Leg we had some discourse together of the nature whereof I thought it fit to give your Honour an account that you may thereby take your measures if it do afford any matter that concerns the public After some general discourses about several occurrences his Honour told me That it was a matter of wonder that the Peace betwixt the King and the States being concluded above a year ago and we having for nine Months resided at Court yet there was not the least inclination discovered on the part of the States to enter into a nearer Alliance with the King but on the contrary it was taken notice of that in Holland Leagues and Confederacies were sought for elsewhere Adding farther That they had been acquainted by the by with an earnest Letter from the Elector of Brandenburgh to the States since the Peace was concluded with Sweden by the mediation of the King and likewise with the manner how Spain demanded the restitution of Maestricht threatning That they would seize the Dutch effects which were expected in the Gallions in case the aforesaid City were not delivered up to that King Such and the like accidents continued he do happen to the State and are like to be attended with worse if they continue without making Alliances with other Princes And what think you said he if the King and this Kingdom were in League with you as formerly It is well known with what Succours His Majesty was then obliged to assist the States in case they should be attacqued I do not affirm for a certain truth added he that Spain will proceed to reprisal upon the effects of the Hollanders but all our advices from Madrid tell us that that Court was resolved so to do Hereupon I assured his Honour That their High and Mightinesses did highly honour the King his Master's friendship and would use their greatest care to entertain it and endeavour to live in a good correspondence with His Majesty and his Subjects by contributing to the utmost what lay in their power for the preservation of the same That we had express Orders from their High and Mightinesses to assure His Majesty that there was no such thing as a League that was talked of with England and Spain but that their High and Mightinesses would observe the Treaties which they had made with His Majesty and therefore had not as yet nor intended not to enter into any Alliance which might prove inconsistent with the concluded Peace To this the Marquess de Louvois did reply That that was well but yet that there appeared in all this no inclination on the part of the States to a nearer Alliance with his Master though he could aver that His Majesty was fully inclined to it That it was not reasonable to expect overtures from him but notwithstanding if it were perceived that the States seemed indifferent in that point the same perhaps might be done with others who did shew a greater inclination to the thing And if so said he what the interest of your Country will be the issue will discover To conclude having again as formerly assured his Honour of the sincerity of the States I took my leave Most honourable and noble Lord I communicated the substance of this Conference to the Lord Dyckveld but his Excellency not thinking it fit to write a particular which happened to me alone though it be not pleasing to their High and Mightinesses that we should singly write to the Pensioner yet I thought it my duty to acquaint your Honour with what I so unexpectedly met with for what I know of the humour of that Lord such free discourses as these are not without Design But this I submit to your Honours known wisdom and beg leave in compliance with my Duty to write my self Paris August 25. 1679. Jacob Boreel Paris September 1. 1679. My Lord THE Marquess of Louvois being so much recovered from the indisposition which happened to him above a Month ago by a fall from his Horse as to admit of visits Last week the Heer Boreel went to wait upon him where amongst other things he told his Excellency that he wondered that the Peace betwixt this Kingdom and the States being concluded above a year ago and their Ambassadours having resided at this Court eight or nine Months there should be no mention nor proposition made on the part of their High and Mightinesses of entering into a nearer Alliance with this Crown when Leagues were solicited at other places which he was assured would not prove successful That there had been a Letter of the Elector of Brandenburgh communicated to him which was written to the States upon the subject of the Peace that was concluded betwixt him and Sweden by the mediation of the King As likewise the Memorial by way of Answer which was presented by the Lord Delira to the Assembly of their High and Mightinesses concerning the giving up of the City of Maestricht In both which the demands were urged in very pressing terms and especially in the last which threatned reprisal on the Effects that the Dutch Merchants expect in the Gallions That his Honour could not say positively that that would be put in execution but that all the Letters from Madrid gave such advice And that these and such-like occurrences which perhaps might be followed with worse were only occasioned by the States remaining without particular Alliances with other Kings That his Honour thought he might assure us that we needed not fear any such accidents in case the States were allied with the King his Master and this Kingdom it being well known with what succours they would be assisted by this King against those that should attack them Being answered to this that their High and Mightinesses did highly value the honour of His Majesty's friendship and that it would be their constant endeavours to preserve the same That they would contribute what in them lay to live with the King and his Subjects in amity and good correspondence and that as an instance thereof it was not long since by express Orders from their High and Mightinesses they had assured Monsieur Pomponne of the sincerity of the States and that there was not only nothing in the pretended League with England and Spain but also that their High and Mightinesses would punctually observe the Treaties which they had made
with His Majesty and that consequently they had not made neither would they make any Engagements which might be prejudicial to the Amity of His Majesty and Peace concluded with him Monsieur Louvois did hereupon reply That this was all well but notwithstanding it did not hereby appear that the States had any inclination to engage in a nearer Alliance That his Honour could assure us both that the King was inclined to it but that it could not be expected that His Majesty should make the first overtures Farther adding That if it were observed that the States seemed indifferent as to the thing measures might be taken here for doing the same thing with others who shew themselves more inclinable that way the issue whereof would inform us whether that would be for the interest of our Country or not The Heer Dyckvelt having since waited on Monsieur Louvois to congratulate with him upon his recovery and the Marriage of his Daughter to the Prince of Rocheguyon eldest Son of the Prince of Mallsillarq Master of the Robes to His Majesty and chief Huntsman of the Grown After some mutual Compliments upon occasion of the visit and some discourses concerning the Times Monsieur Louvois started the same subject which he had spoken of before to the Heer Boreel repeating the substance of the afore-mentioned discourse And having protested that what he said was without any Orders and that he spoke but as one Friend to another He told him That the King was fully inclined to enter into a new Alliance with the States but that His Majesty must be thereunto requested and that the sincerity of his intentions might be manifest he was willing to condescend to advantagious Conditions That there being no contrary interest as to the matter of Commerce betwixt the States and this Kingdom their High and Mightinesses would find their advantage in a nearer Alliance that the same would conduce to the securing of the common Barrier And that the Spanish Neatherlands might never fall into the hands of the French it might be stipulated with such necessary conditions and caution as should be demanded Adding farther that for instance the King would probably engage himself never to attack these Countries and that if at any time he should enter into a War with Spain he should not act in these Quarters much less make himself by Arms or Treaties Master of the smallest Cottage therein That he should not possess the Neatherlands either by sale or voluntary resignation and if he should that in that case the Alliance should be broken and their High and Mightinesses at liberty to joyn in League with any other Prince or Potentate His Honour added farther That if the King were forced to attack Spain somewhere else what projudice would it be to their High and Mightinesses if His Majesty should make a Conquest of the Milanois or some part on the Frontiers of Spain Besides said he put the question we should shortly break with Spain because of the Orders that are sent to Vivonne to make the Spanish Ships and Gallions strike would it be for the interest of the States to renew the War with us To this and the conditions proposed a civil Answer was made to Monsieur Louvois as the Heer Boreel had done before affuring his Honour That the intentions of the States were sincere and that they would endeavour religiously to observe the Peace to live with His Majesty in good Intelligence and true Amity and to do all they could to cultivate the same and make it durable Signed Jacob Boreel Dyckvelt The Memorial presented by the French Ambassadour to the States of the United Provinces Jan. 8. 1680. MOnsieur d'Avaux has received an Express with new and precise Orders to represent to their High and Mightinesses that the King his Master does wish that they would once declare themselves and the rather that after mutual Embassies His Majesty cannot doubt but that their High and Mightinesses are satisfied that it is his intention to make a strict Alliance with them and since there remains no considerable difficulty to hinder the conclusion thereof His Majesty is persuaded that all delays are but excuses for it is not just that after so full a knowledge of his sentiments His Majesty should not be precisely informed of your resolutions And seeing His Majesty cannot have the same assurance of your friendship as he is willing to give you of his the said Ambassadour thinks himself obliged to desire their High and Mightinesses that they would make a serious reflexion upon this as upon many other affairs which may tend to the establishing of a defensive and lasting Alliance and public friendship with His Majesty And lastly that His Majesty may be speedily informed of their intentions that he may take his measures accordingly and act as their High and Mightinesses shall be pleased to demean themselves towards him Given at the Hague the 18th of January 1680. The Memorial of Mr. Sidney Envoy extraordinary of the King of Great Britain to the States of the United Provinces on Jan. 9. 1680. THE Envoy extraordinary of the King of Great Britain makes no doubt but that your High and Mightinesses are fully informed by your Ambassadours at the Court of England what pains the Most Christian King takes to draw you into a nearer Alliance for mutual desence with His Majesty And because the Ambassadour of his Most Christian Majesty did by his Memorial of yesterday propose the same to your High and Mightinesses the Envoy having express Orders from the King his Master does represent to your High and Mightinesses that his Master cannot look upon the aforesaid Alliance otherwise than as a confederacy against him and the rather because your High and Mightinesses have refused to pass an Act of Guarantee of the last Treaties of Peace at Nimmeghen to which he had obliged you by two several Trearies of the 10th of January and the 26th of July 1678. That the King his Master conceived that this Alliance meant no less than the French King 's giving Rules to this State But that His Majesty being in full Peace and no ways apprehensive of his neighbouring Princes and your High and Mightinesses being likewise in no danger of being in the least molested by any by a nearer Alliance with you His Majesty has no other aim but that he may not give the French King an occasion of shewing his displeasure for the separate Peace which His Majesty made with your High and Mightinesses in the year 1674. The Memorial presented by the French Ambassadour to the States General January 12. 1680. THE Count d'Avaux Ambassadour extraordinary of his Most Christian Majesty by a Memorial presented to your High and Mightinesses the 8th instant signified to you the intentions of the King his Master concerning an Alliance propounded betwixt His Majesty and this State and having as yet no Answer he cannot longer delay his Obedience to the precise Orders of His Majesty by letting your
High and Mightinesses know that be much wondred that you should put off to another time the conclusion of this Alliance That His Majesty would have been pleased and taken it well if without urging the matter your High and Mightinesses had sent a solemn Embassy to desire that favour of him especially having concluded a Peace with you and given you by word and deeds so many proofs of his sincere friendship and promised to be true to it it is therefore His Majesty's desire that your High and Mightinesses would shew a reciprocal procedure and carry your selves as you have done nor only to former Kings but to His Majesty himself for since the Establishment of your High and Mightinesses States you have constantly desired of His Majesty's Predecessors and himself the continuance of their Alliance and Protection which was signally manifested in the year 1648 when His Majesty's Forces joyned with yours procured your High and Mightinesses a firm and setled Peace since which time you have several times with instances sollicited the renewing of that old Alliance and Friendship And namely in the year 1662 you sent a solemn Embassy to His Majesty to desire an Alliance which then was granted and concluded That the Alliance proposed by His Majesty is no more but the renewing of former Leagues and is purely defensive having no other regard but the maintaining of your High and Mightinesses State in a former Peace and freedom of Commerce without any danger or fear and no design to involve the States in new troubles but to confirm a general Peace in all Europe And this being the only reason why His Majesty applies himself to you at this time and that your High and Mightinesses may have the same Alliance with several other Princes and States It could not enter into His Majesty's thoughts after he has given you so many Demonstrations of his sincere friendship that the renewing of this Alliance should meet with any difficulty or opposition and that two Months should be expired without having as yet received from you any final Resolution That His Majesty could not persuade himself that the Declaration of the King of England should make any impression on the minds of your High and Mightinesses seeing the League offered by England is wholly offensive as designed against His Majesty when the Alliance which he proposes can be of no ill consequence to the King of England if he will continue in Peace and not attack the States as he did in the year 1665 for then His Majesty would be obliged to defend them as he did at that time And in regard the Alliance which His Majesty proposes will do good to all and injure no person the present Declaration of the King of England against it ought to be of less force than that which the same Prince made to His Majesty in the year 1662 to hinder the Alliance which he then made with your High and Mightinesses and particularly to hinder his being Guarantee in an Affair which himself intended to disturb And seeing His Majesty let slip no occasion of shewing his good will to the States and especially at so important a juncture as this is His Majesty may justly conclude that your High and Mightinesses will have no regard to a Declaration that has so little ground for it but that you will now call to mind the many demonstrations of His Majesty's true and faithful Amity particularly that helpful Tax of Tariff in the year 1664 which is of great advantage to your Traffic when he desires only the renewing of the Treaty of the year 1662 which is purely defensive of the same nature with those that your High and Mightinesses have concluded with other Princes and States and of great advantage for secuting your fishing Trade His Majesty has likewise ordered the Ambassadour to acquaint your High and Mightinesses that if you delay the renewing of the said Alliance he will look upon it as a refusal to engage in so sincere friendship and correspondence as he would do with you and at a time when the forbearing of it may be of hurtful consequence as on the contrary the concluding thereof cannot but tend to the setling of your State in Peace and the increase of your Trade and Greatness and at such a time also when His Majesty relies not upon your High and Mightinesses for Peace and security at home That he knows there is a party among you which do not favour His Majesty but that ye might be assured the King would take the same measures with them and that he will employ all his power for promoting of Commerce among his own Subjects wheresoever it can be done His Majesty has made his intentions to this effect known to the Ambassadours of your High and Mightinesses and willed them to communicate the same to you and that he desires a positive Answer within 15 days after which time His Majesty's Ambassadour is ordered to sollicit the matter no more His Majesty being resolved to observe the same measures as your High and Mightinesses have done with him Given at the Hague the twelfth of January 1680. A Copy of the Earl of Sunderland's Letter to Mr. Sidney Envoy extraordinary from His Majesty of Great Britain to the States of the United Provinces dated January 14. 1680. VVHen I had read your Letter in Council I had Orders to speak with the Heer Van Leuwen concerning the Alliance proposed by France to the States I told him That the King would take it ill if his Masters should come to a conclusion with France after they had refused such an Alliance as they themselves had formerly desired of His Majesty and sent Ambassadours to treat about the same I told him also That if the States should take that course this defensive Alliance might hereafter oblige them to other measures with France and if the French King should enter into a War they would find themselves thereby necessitated to assist that Crown which would be sufficient cause of a breach betwixt England and Holland His Majesty I told him did intend to tell him so himself and therefore desired to speak with him His Answer was That he would acquaint his Masters with it and that he did not believe they would accept the Proposals of Monsieur d'Avaux In a word you must use your utmost endeavours to hinder this Alliance and assure the States That His Majesty will do any thing that is reasonable not doubting but that he with the assistance of the States of Holland is in a condition of preserving the quiet and peace of Europe which is both their interests The Earl of Sunderland's Postcript with his own hand YOU must press this Affair to the States as much as possible you can and shew them the ill consequences of such an Alliance for if it take effect His Majesty may be moved to take other measures though it is against his inclination Jan. 14. 1680. Paris January 15. 1680. YEsterday evening being Sunday
that consequently your High and Mightinesses ought to expect that his Majesty would enter into any Alliances which might be proposed to him for the welfare of his Kingdom and that he would industriously comply with the ways which were daily offered for promoting the Commerce of his Subjects That his Majesty knew not how to threaten the States with his Indignation but that his displeasure upon the account of these their proceedings might do them more prejudice than the Menaces of others That his Majesty has enjoyned your Ambassadours to signifie to your High and Mightinesses what he told them and that they should take care not to alter his sense as had been done in some Matters of great Importance which his Majesty was acquainted with within eight hours after and wherein his Majesty had charged Mr. Colbert to explain his meaning Upon conclusion of the Audience his Majesty told your Ambassadors that they should repair to Monsieur Colbert and that he was surprized that they had Letters in Holland signifying that in case they would not enter into the Alliance his Majesty would have no respect to the Peace And that they should lose their Trade which was a misconstruction of his sense wherewith his Majesty was displeased and that they should only take into consideration that what had past within eight or ten days might in the beginning have been thought a just ground of his Majesties dissatisfaction at their proceedings Datum Hague 22. Jan. 1680. The Memorial of Mr. Sidney Envoy extraordinary of the King of Great Britain to the States General of the United Provinces the 23. of Jan. 1680. THe subscribed Envoy extraordinary of the King of Great Britain seeing by the Memorial which the Ambassador of France presented yesterday to your Lordships that he continues by urgent Instances to induce your Lordships to enter into that Defensive League which the most Christian King proposed to your Lordships sometime since he finds himself obliged by new Orders from the King his Master to renew the Instances by him made to your Lordships by his Memorial of the Ninth Instant that you will not enter into such a Treaty as the King his Master cannot take to be other than an engagement against his Majesty who pretends not to use such Menaces as the Memorials of the French Ambassadour are filled with although the King his Master hath more cause to complain that your Lordships have but even now passed the Act of Guarranty to which your Lordships were obliged by two such solemn Treaties But as his Majesty takes nothing more to heart than the advantage of this Republick so he will not press them upon any thing that is not for their conveniency and interest The King his Master perswades himself also that after all those Assurances of his Amity and Assistance in what ever may happen which he hath given your Ambassador at his Court whereof without all doubt he hath informed your Lordships you will not make an Alliance which he cannot judge to be other than against himself and that the Instances of the most Christian King though too pressing and importunate to be presented to a free Commonwealth will not be capable to divert your Lordships from your true Interest nor from the Amity and strict Union that is between his Majesty and this State in a time and on an occasion when he gives your Lordships so essential marks and when your Lordships have assured his Majesty that you will continue and encrease the same on your parts Given at the Hague Jan. 23. 1680. Sidney Considerations touching the Alliance with France THe King of France being desirous to renew an Alliance with the States hath solicited the same by his Ambassadors and His Majesty has reason to believe that the States will accept of an Offer so advantageous to them when upon that account he is willing to comply with them therein for these Considerations That the States have renewed their Alliance with all those Princes with whom they have been in War That they have not only after the Peace concluded with England renewed their Alliance with that Crown but made a new one besides That in the same Treaty by which they made Peace with Sweden they renewed their former Treaties of Alliance That the King of France desires no more of the States but the same thing and if this be not granted his Majesty will have reason to believe that the States have particular Reasons that oblige them to contract no nearer Alliance or Friendship with him and whether his Majesty in that case will not be obliged to take his measures accordingly And seeing the States are in Alliance with all the Princes of Europe except the King of France with whom they will make none whether his Majesty may not justly belief that those Engagements which they have with other Princes tend to the concerting of Measures against him when ever opportunity shall offer That it is no excuse to say that the Alliance which the States have with England and Spain were made during the War seeing the Alliance proposed by France does not contain any special Engagement and indeed no other but the same Conditions which were desired by the States in 1662. If in the present Conjuncture the renewing of such an Alliance be refused his Majesty is obliged to believe that the Interest of France is not considered and that the Interest of the States is inconsistent with it and by consequence whether he may not always for the future take other Measures because the States by their refusal will make appear that it is never their Interest to ally with France That if it be said that though the Alliance be good and advantageous yet that the conclusion thereof ought to be deferred till another time whether if his Majesty did not know which he does know what the reasons of this delay were he ought not to believe that they seek to defer the Alliance only because they never intend to conclude it And whether those Reasons let them be what they will will not be the very same six Months or a year hence And whether ever it will be found expedient to renew the Alliance between France and this State till the Complaints that any Princes may make against the renewing of the said Alliance begin to be suspected by the States If a Prince let him be who he will should oppose the States making of a defensive Alliance and innocent Amity yea such an one as he has with them himself already whether he does not thereby show that he intends to attack the one or the other and that he has private designs of his own That France is far from taking it ill that the States should procure themselves new Friends and Alliances His Majesty being ready to obtain the same for them if he knew of any Prince who was not already in League with them That there is no reason to excuse the renewing of the Alliance with France because they refused to