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A91189 A full declaration of the true state of the secluded members case. In vindication of themselves, and their privileges, and of the respective counties, cities and boroughs for which they were elected to serve in Parliament, against the vote of their discharge, published in print, Jan. 5. 1659. by their fellow members. Compiled and published by some of the secluded members, who could meet with safety and conveniencie, without danger of a forcible surprize by Red-coats. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1660 (1660) Wing P3965; Thomason E1013_22; ESTC R22149 44,193 60

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us to stand upon our defence which nature teacheth every man to provide for and this Kingdom unlesse it be very unnatural and very unmindfull of it self cannot but afford to them whom it hath intrusted and by whom it is represented and if the Major part of both Houses may sit free from force we doubt not but that they will not only make it good that they have done themselves and the whole Kingdom right in their De●larations and offered no wrong nor done any prejudice at all to his Majestie but also be very sensible of the great indignity offered to the representative body of this whole Kingdom by the contrivers of the Kings answer and will make such persons that delight to foul their own nests and to cast dirt in the face of the Kingdom instances of their exemplary justice so soon as they shall be discovered and brand both them and their doctrin with the marks of their perpetual scorn and indignation And for a tast of their horrid doctrine these Particulars are mentioned from the Declaration that Remonstrance answers viz. s That his Majestie or any other Person may upon suggestions and pretences of Treason Felony or breach of the peace take the Members of Parliament out of either House of Parliament without giving satisfaction to the House whereof they are Members of the ground of such suggestion or accusation and without and against their consent so they may dismember a Parliament when they please and make it what they will when they will That the Representative body of the whole Kingdom is a faction of Malignant Scismatical and Ambitious Persons whose design is and alwaies hath been to alter the whole frame of Government both of Church and State and to subject both King and people to their own lawlesse arbitrary power and Government and that they design the ruine of his Majesties person and of Monarchy it self and consequently that they are Traytors and all the Kingdom with them for their Act is the Act of the whole Kingdom and whether their punishment and ruine may not also involve the whole Kingdom in conclusion and reduce it into the condition of a Conquered Nation no man can tell but experience sheweth us that successe often draws men not only beyond their professions but also many times beyond their intentions Likewise in the t Declaration of both Houses dated Novemb. 7. 1642. for the encouragement of the Apprentices to list themselves under the Earl of Warwick the cause is declared to be for the defence of Religion and liberty of the Kingdom his Majesties royal Person the Parliament and the City of London In the u Declaration of the Lords and Commons of the 17th of December 1642. The Parliaments Army is said to be raised for the necessary defence of the true Protestant Religion the King Parliament and Kingdom And in the x Declaration of both Houses concerning a Treaty of peace made by Cheshire alone it is held forth That they ought not to withdraw themselves from the common cause but to joyn with the Parliament in the defence of the Religion and liberty of the whole Kingdom and with them to labour by all good means to procure a general peace and protection from the King for all his Subjects according to their general Protestation In like manner in the y Declaration of the 7th of January 1642. for a subscription of mony and plate for supply of the Army the cause of the war is expressed to be for the preservation of Religion as well as the just and undoubted power and privilege of Parliament our Laws and Liberties from most apparent destruction And in the z preamble to the Propositions of both Houses tendred to his Majesty Fe●r 1. 1642. they say That they took up Arms for the defence of our Religion laws liberties privileges of Parliament and for the sitting of the Parliament in safety Likewise in the first a Ordinances for a general weekly Assesment wherein the whole Kingdom was to be satisfied That they might freely pay their mony the same cause is held forth The b Associations also of the several Counties of the Kingdom were setled for the same cause In the year 1643. c The Solemn League and Covenant was taken by all Members of Parliament and throughout the Kingdom in maintenance of the same cause as appears by the Covenant and the Exhortation to the taking of the same The Kingdom of Scotland engaged with us in the same cause And all d Commissions to the Generals and Army-Officers were in the name of King and Parliament And when a new Army was raised of 20000. men under the command of Sir Tho. Fairfax by e Ordinance of both Houses dated the 13th of Febr. 1644. it is held forth to be for the defence of the King and Parliament the true Protestant Religion the laws and liberties of the Kingdom An Ordinance dated 3. Aug. 1647. for raising of forces to be commanded by Sir William Waller is for defence of the King Kingdom Parliament and City Lastly to mention no more towards the end of the war the House of Commons alone published a memorable f Declaration dated the 17th of April 1646. called A Declaration of their true Intentions concerning the antient Government of the Kingdom and securing the people against all arbitrary Government c. Wherein remembring the aspersions cast upon them in the beginning of the war and that the same Spirits were still working and mis-representing their intentions and not ceasing aswell in print as otherwise to beget a Belief that they then desired to exceed or swerve from their first ayms and principles in the undertaking of this war and to recede from the Solemn League and Covenant and Treaties between the two Kingdoms and that they would prolong the troubles and distractions in order to alter the fundamental constitution and frame of this Kingdom to leave all Government in the Church loose and un●etled and our selves to exercise the same Arbitrary power over the Persons and Estates of the Subjects which this present Parliament hath thought fit to abolish by taking away the Star-chamber High Commission and other Arbitrary Courts and the exorbitant power of the Council-Table All which being seriously considered by them and fore-seeing that if credit were given to such dangerous in●inuations and false surmise the same would not only continue the then calamity and involve us into new and unexpected imbroylments but likewise inevitably endanger the happy issue and success of their endeavours which by Gods blessing they might otherwise hope for they did declare in these words We do declare That our true and real intentions are and our endeavours shall be to settle Religion in the purity thereof according to the Covenant to maintain the antient and fundamental Government of this Kingdom to preserve the right and liberty of the Subject to lay hold of the first opportunity of procuring a safe and
well-grounded peace in the three Kingdoms and to keep a good understanding between the two Kingdoms of England and Scotland according to the grounds expressed in the Solemn League and Covenant and Treaties which we desire may be inviolably observed on both parts And lest these Generals should not give a sufficient satisfaction they thought fit to the end men might be no longer abused in a misbelief in their intentions or a mis-understanding of their Actions to make further inlargement upon the particulars most worthy a diligent peru●al and consideration Amongst which they have this observable passage viz. And whereas a safe and good peace is the right end of a just war there is nothing we have more earnestly desired nor more constantly laboured after and to that purpose both Houses of Parliament have framed several Propositions to be sent to the King wherein We are so far from altering the fundamental Constitution and Government of this Kingdom by King Lords and Commons that we have only desired that with the consent of the King such Powers may be settled in the two Houses without which we can have no assurance but that the like or greater mischiefs than these which God hath hitherto delivered us from may break out again and ingage us in a second and more destructive war Whereby it plainly appears our intentions are not to change the antient frame of Government within this Kingdom but to obtain the end of the primitive institution of all Government the safety and weal of the people And then that Declaration concludes thus And for the Covenant we have been and ever shall be very carefull to ob●erve the same that as nothing hath been done so nothing shall be done by us repugnant to the true meaning and intention thereof nor will we depart from those grounds and principles upon which it was framed and founded This Decl. was then indeed of that moment to quiet the Jealousies and settle the Distempers of the Kingdom g that 4000 of them were ordered to be printed for the use of the Parliament And the Knights and Burgesses ordered to take care for the speedy sending down and publishing them in the respective Counties and places for which they ●erved And by special order of the House Sir Arthur Has●erig Sir John Eveling and two others were to take care that the printed Declarations were published set up and ●●xed in every Parish-Church by the Church-wardens or other Officers of the said Parish which they were by the said Order required and enjoyned to ●ee published set up and fixed in the said Parish-Church accordingly Way being thus made to the Narrative and Treaty we proceed The two Houses of Parliament having thus for the space of six years or thereabouts been ingaged in a war for the defence and maintenance of the Protestant Religion the Kings person honour and Estate and his Royal Posterity the power and Privileges of Parliament and the Laws and Liberties of the Kingdom as appears by all their said Declarations Orders Ordinances and publick writings in the prosecution wherof they did also declare * That there was a design carried on by the forces levied against the Parliament to alter our religion and the antient frame and constitution of the Government both in Church and State and the laws and liberties of the Kingdom and to introduce Popery and Idolatry together with an Arbitrary form of Government And having in the heat of the war sent Propositions several times and entred into divers Treaties with his late Majesty for a safe and well-grounded peace which had not the desired effect at the cloze of the war finding the distempers of the Kingdom continued though all adverse Armies and Garrisons were reduced and well remembring that in the begining of the war they had called God to witnesse that the safety of the Kingdom and peace of the people was their only aime They did in July 1648. resolve upon a personal Treaty with the King the general desires of the City of London and the rest of the people concurring therewith And in pursuance thereof the Commons assembled in Parliament that they might have a full House published the following Declaration Die Martis 5. Septembris 1648. A Declaration of the Commons assembled in Parliament Concerning the Summoning of the Members to attend the House on Tuesday the 26. of Septemb. 1648. WHereas both Houses of Parliament have agreed upon A Personal Treaty with his Majestie which is speedily to commence for the management whereof the * attendance of all the Members of Parliament wil be very necessary because in the Multitude of Counsellors there is safety and in the successe thereof the Alaying of the present distempers and future happinesse of this Kingdom is so highly concerned It is therefore ordered and declared by the Commons assembled in Parliament that the respective Sheriffs of each County within the Kingdom of England and Dominion of Wales do forthwith upon receipt hereof give particular notice to all the Members of the House of Commons residing and being within their respective Counties to attend the House on Tuesday the 26th Septemb under the penalty of twenty pounds fixed upon the defaultors that day being appointed for calling of the House The Members attended from all parts accordingly and there were appointed the Earls of Northumberland Pembrook Salisbury Middlesex and the Lord Say for the Lords House And Mr. William Pierpoint Sir Henry Vane Junior and eight more of the House of Commons Commissioners to carry on the Treaty with his Majestie at the Isle of Wight who took great pains therein and finished the Treaty by the end of November And on December the first the Commissioners of the House of Commons made their report of the Treaty in the House who presently entred into debate thereof and continued the debate Dec. 2d 3d. 4th 5th when after a long and serious debate in a full House notwithstanding the Menaces of the Army who had marched up to London and Westminster contrary to the Orders of the House removed their own guards and put new ones upon them and their insolent and Rebellious Declaration of the 20th of Novemb. 1648. they came to this resolution without any division of the House viz. Die Martis 5. Decembris 1648. REsolved upon the Question That the Answers of the King to the Propositions of both Houses are a ground for the House to proceed upon for the settlement of the peace of the Kingdom The just grounds and reasons of which vote do partly appear in all the forecited Declarations and proceedings of both Houses during the War the Oaths Protestation League and Covenant they took as Members the Writs by which they were elected and the Indentures by which we were returned impowered intrusted but more particularly in the Vindication of the imprisoned and secluded Members of the Commons House from the aspersisions ●ast upon them and the majority of the House in a printed Paper of the Gen-Council of
A FULL Declaration Of the true State of the SECLUDED MEMBERS CASE IN Vindication of Themselves and their Privileges and of the respective Counties Cities and Boroughs for which they were elected to serve in Parliament against the Vote of their Discharge published in print Jan. 5. 1659. by their Fellow Members Compiled and published by some of the Secluded Members who could meet with safety and conveniencie without danger of a forcible surprize by Red-coats Mal. 2. 10. Have we not all one Father Hath not one God created us Why do we deal treacherously every man against his Brother by prophaning the Covenant of our Fathers 1 Cor. 6. 8. Nay you do wrong and defrand and that your Brethren LONDON Printed and are to be sold by Edward Thomas at the Adam and Eve in Little Britain 1660. A FULL DECLARATION OF THE True State of the matter of Fact Concerning the SECLUDED MEMBERS OF THE House of Commons OF THE Parliament Begun at WESTMINSTER November 3d. 1640. FOr the clearer stating of their Case it will be necessary to have a retrospect to the year 1642. and to observe down-wards such Proceedings as had a direct influence upon this matter In order whereunto it must be considered that in the said year some mis-understandings arising between the King and his two Houses of Parliament concerning some evil Counsellors about the King at which style his M●jesty took offence the two Houses in their a Declaration of the 19. of May 1642. have this expression in answer thereunto We his Majesties loyal and dutifull Subjects can use no other style according to that Maxim in the Law the King can do no wrong but if any ill be committed in matter of State the Council if in matters of Justice the Judges must answer for it They add further b We cannot but justly think that if there be a continuance of such i●l Counsellors they will by some wicked device or other make the Bill for the Triennial Parliament and those other excellent Laws passed this Parliament of no value And we are resolved the gracious favour of his Majestie expressed in that excellent Bill for the continuance of this Parliament and the advantage and security which thereby we have from being dissolved shall not incourage us to do any thing which otherwise had not been fit to have been done And after by their c Remonstr of the 26 of May 1642. they gave this as a Character of those evil Counsellors viz. These are the men that would perswade the People that both Houses of Parliament containing all the Peers and representing all the Commons of England would destroy the Laws of the Land and Liberties of the People wherein besides the trust of the whole they themselves in their own particulars have so great an interest of honour and estate That we hope it will gain little credit with any that have the least use of reason that such as must have so great a share in the misery should take so much pains in the procuring thereof and spend so much time and run so many hazards to make themselves slaves And they conclude that Declaration with these words We doubt not but it shall in the end appear to all the world that our endeavours have been most hearty and sincere for the maintenance of the true Protestant Religion the Kings just Prerogatives the Laws and Liberties of the Land and the Privileges of Parliament in which endeavours by the grace of God we will still persist though we should perish in the work which if it should be it is much to be feared that Religion Laws Liberties and Parliaments would not be long lived after Vs Jealousies and differences increasing between the King and the two Houses they came at length to an open war in the entrance whereunto the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament published a Declaration in Aug. 1642. in the preamble whereunto they assert d That a Malignant party was then in armes against them to the hazarding of his Majesties Person and for the oppression of the true Religion the Laws and Liberties of this Kingdom and the power and Privilege of Parliament all which every honest man is bound to defend especially those who have taken the late Protestation by which they are more particularly tyed unto it and the more answerable before God should they neglect it And finding themselves engaged on a necessity to take up armes likewise for the defence of those which otherwise must suffer and perish they did then think fit to give that account unto the world to be a satisfaction unto all men of the justice of their proceedings and a warning to the People to let them see the necessity and duty which lay upon them to save themselves their Religion and Country In the body of the e Declaration they charge the Malignant party with an endeavour to possess the People that the Parliament will take away the Law and introduce an Arbitrary Government a thing which every moral man abhors much more the wisedom justice and piety of the two Houses of Parliament and in truth such a charge as no rational man can believe it it being impossible so many several persons as the Houses of Parliament consist of about * 600. and in either House all of equal power should all of them or at least the Major part agree in Acts of will and Tyranny which make up an Arbitrary Government and most improbable that the Nobility and chief Gentry of this Kingdom should conspire to take away the Law by which they enjoy their Estates are protected from any Act of violence and power and differenced from the meaner sort of people with whom otherwise they would be but fellow-servants They then further charge the said malignant party f to have combined to bury the happiness of the Kingdom in the ruine of the Parliament and by forcing it to cut up the freedom of Parliament by the root and either take all Parliaments away or which is worse make them the instruments of Slavery to confirm it by Law and leave the disease incurable With compelling the trained Bands by force to come in and joyn with them or disarming them and putting their arms into the hands of lewd and desperate persons thereby turning the Arms of the Kingdom against it self And with an intention to destroy the Parliament and be Masters of our Religion and Liberties to make us slaves and alter the Government of this Kingdom and reduce it to the condition of some other Countries which are not governed by Parliaments and so by Laws And upon these grounds they conclude that Declaration in these words g Therefore we the Lords and Commons are resolved to expose our lives and fortunes for the defence and maintenance of the true Religion the Kings person honour and estate the power and privilege of Parliament and the just rights and liberties of the Subject And for the prevention of this mischievous
must needs be the extremity of Anti-Parliamentary Injustice especially in those of the Long Robe sitting in and advancing themselves to the Seats of Justice in all the Courts of Westminster 12. It is the undoubted Privilege and Birth right not only of Members but of the meanest despicablest and most flagitious Commoners of England if complainants or petitioners to be admitted freely both into the Lobby and Commons House without forcible seclusion to present their complaints grievances for their relief or redresse or if a Delinquents to be accused summoned heard duly convicted and particularly sentenced at the bar by name before they be committed or sentenced as all Parliamentary Records Journals daily experience attest Therfore that the Majority of the Members persons of greatest Eminency Interest Integrity representing most Counties Cities and Boroughs of the Realm should be denied that justice and privilege which the meanest Commoners and most exec●able Del●●quents enjoy as their Birthright only for their Vote and that by their Fellow-Members the greatest pretenders to publick Justice Liberty and Saintship is not only Anti-Parliamentary and Injurious but stupendious in the sight of God Angels Men and the whole Nation 13ly The whole House of Commons and some of our secluders in the case of the XI M●mbers impeached by the Army 9. of them now secluded upon long and full debate June 25. 1647. Resolved unanimously on the Question without one dissenting Voice as to part of the Armies general charge against them for something they had spoken and done within the House That it did not appear that any thing had been said or done by them in the House touching any matters contained in the charge or Papers sent from the Army for which they could in justice suspend them from ●itting and Voting in the House In the debate whereof they all concluded it was a high breach of Privilege for the Army or any others out of the House to impeach any Members for things spoken or done within the House whereof the House alone is to take notice and be the sole Judge Therefore by this very Vote and resolution the House upon the Armies Proposals and Desires alone ought not in justice to suspend much lesse forcibly to seclude and eject us only for our Vote within it and it was a transcendent breach of the Privileges of the House to receive their Proposals Decemb. 6. and their Answer January 3. complaining against our Vote and to make it the only ground of our suspension and seclusion ever since and now of our Ejection 2ly They then unanimously resolved That by the Laws of the Land no Iudgement can be given to suspend those Members or any of them from sitting in the House upon the Paper presented from the Army before particulars offered and proofes made against them Therefore they cannot suspend seclude and eject both them and the Majority of the whole House now from sitting or Voting with them any more only for their Vote without any other particular charge hea●ing conviction or Judgement pronounced against them at the bar 14ly Had this Vote and judgement of Supension and Discharge been given against any one of the suspended Members in a full and free house and Parliament and ratified by an Act or Ordinance of both houses without any legal summons tryal and hearing at the Bar yet it had been erroneous null and void and ought to be reversed as such and that by the expresse judgements and resolutions of the Parliaments of 28 E. 3. Rot. Parl. n. 7 to 14. 29 E. 3. n. 29. in the case of * Roger Mortymer Earl of March who in the Parliament of 4 E. 3. Rot. Parl. n. 1. was impeached in Parliament of high Treason for murdering of King Edward the 2d after his deposing for accroaching to himselfe Royal Power and the Government of the State over the King For comming to the Parliament at Salisbury with force and arms contrary to the Kings Writ and Prohibition under his Seal That none should come to the Parliament with force and arms under pain of forfeiting all that he could forfeit to the King Whereupon the Earl of Lancaster and others of the Lords by reason of his force came not at all And when in the Prelates were there assembled in an house at the said Parliament to consult about the affairs of the King and Realm The said Roger broke open the Doors of the House upon them with men at arms and threatned them of Life and of Member if they should be so hardy to speak or do any thing against his Will and Ordinances And did so much in the same Parliament that the King made him Earl of March and gave him many Lands and Tenements to the dis-inheriting of the Crown And afterwards the said Roger and those of his confederacy led the King armed against the Earl of Lancaster and other Peers of the Land to Winchester where they were comming towards the King to the said Parliament at Salisbury Whereupon the said Earl and other Peers of the Land to avoid the peril that might happen out of reverence to the King departed and went towards their Country grieving that they could not speak with nor counsel the said King as they intended and ought to do And for several other grand misdemeanors drawn up and entred in the Parliament Rolls in 14. Articles in French Upon these Articles by reason of the notoriousness of the Facts he was by Judgement and act of Parliament condemned and executed as a Traytor in 4 E. 3. without being brought personally to answer or make his defence at the Bar and his Lands forfeited to the King Whereupon in the Parliament of 28 E. 3. Roger Mortymer Earl of Worcester his Cousin and Heir by Petition prayed That this Act of his Attainder might be examined and the judgement against him reversed for manifest errors therein Whereupon the Record was brought into the Parliament and the Articles Judgement and Proceedings read at large Which done it was alleaged That the judgement was defective and erroneous in all points not for the substance and Truth of the charge but for that the said E. was put to death and dis-inherited Sans nulle accusement et sans estre mesne au juggement ou en respons without any accusation face to face and without being brought to judgement or to answer For which cause it was prayed the said Act a●d Iudgement might be reversed and annulled And for these Reasons our Lord the King Prince Dukes Earls and Barons by * accord of the Knights of Counties and of the Commons reversed and annulled the said Records and Iudgements and adjudged them erroneous and void And the Parliament of 29 E. 3. did likewise confirm and assent thereto as the Parliament Rolls attest If then this Judgement though ratified by an Act of Parliament upon particular Articles of Impeachment true in substance against this Arch-traytor and first forcer of Parliaments by armed men extant on