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A96277	Bellum Hybernicale: or, Ireland's vvarre astrologically demonstrated, from the late celestiall-congresse of the two malevolent planets, Saturne and Mars, in Taurus, the ascendent of that kingdome. VVherein likewise, their future opposition in the signs Sagittary and Gemini, (most ominous to London, and many other of the south and west parts of England) is mathematically handled. The ignorance, malice, mistakes, errors, insolencies, and impertinencies, of Iohn Booker, (in his astrologicall observations upon the said conjunction, in a late pamphlet of his, styled, A bloody Irish almanack, &c.) discovered, corrected, refuted, and retorted: and the author further vindicated, from his, and Master Lilly's former frivolous, false, and malicious aspersions, throughout the whole discourse. / By Capt. Geo: Wharton, student in astronomy.	Wharton, George, Sir, 1617-1681.	1646 (1646)	Wing W1543; Thomason E365_21; Thomason E374_9; ESTC R15814	23,053	41

For you to say that in regard of the horrid murthers that have been there committed upon the Protestants of that Kingdome it is likelyest to undergo the divine justice of God more then the rest it is no Astrologicall reason nor for ought you know may some of the other Kingdomes before named be lesse guilty of the same sinnes then Ireland or deserve a lesse share of the ill influence of this Conjunction I pray Iack let you and I suspend our judgements from intermedling much more determining things of that nature It is more proper for Divines then Astrologers That which we ought to doe ● to containe our selves within the limits of nature and it is questionable whether the English Irish or Scots have been the Authors of that Barbarisme and bloud-shed you mention For he that will lay aside passion and private interest and rightly consider the reall and radicall causes of the Irish insurrection may find others besides the Irish as much if not more guilty of the bloud of those many thousands of Christians which hath been shed since the beginning of that bloody Warre But this is Wormwood to an Orange Scarfs and Feather Yet for their better satisfaction I would advise them to peruse that moderate and judicious Philaerenus Mercurius Hybernicale and there they shall have the naked truth clearely and impartially related I have been intimate with many of that Nation of severall qualities yet could I never discover any more inherent cruelty or Barbarisme in them then in our selves but for the most part 〈…〉 them to be men of singular good education and naturally averse to all inhumanity The truth is they hate to live in bondage or to have their consciences enforced and indeed the setling religion by bloodshed is none of the best State-policies Such Divines as have tongues to their consciences will tell you so or ought I know every mans Religion ought to be dearer to him then his life I know no reason why the Irish may not challenge as much freedome and priviledge in the enjoyment of their Religion as is allowed the Independants Anabaptists Brownists and at the least a hundred more Sects and Schismes within the Lines of Communication who have liberty without any restraint or limitation to exercise their Gifts as they terme it both publiquely and privately To preach and write what they please and even to cloy the Presse with their Heresies and Schismes And if wee looke back upon the originall ground of the Irish insurrection was it not high time thinke you for the Irish after they were denyed any reasonable answer to their Propositions which were sent and delivered in an humble and peaceable manner to the Parliament by Commissioners of that Kingdome who were dismissed hence without any hopes of having their grievances redressed which notwithstanding were farre greater and more intollerable then those which the Scots pretended when they clearely perceived so many pernicious Plots damnable designes dayly inventing against them and with what Acrimony the Roman Catholiques here were proceeded against after the third of November 1640. After so much swearing and forswearing to take off the Earle of Strafords head And the Parliament electing a new Deputy of their own mould mettal to be sent over in his stead And his Majesties Person in continuall hazard by the frequent tumults of the Sectarists and Schismatiques was it not time I say their Nation being thus neglected and threatned his Majesties Person being not exempt from danger and all this occasioned by their own fellow Subjects to associate and unite themselves and to stand upon their guard for the preservation of their Religion Lives and liberties And was it more Rebellion in them by the known Lawes of this or that Land to raise Forces for the necessary defence of their Kingdome then in the English or Scots to raise so many great Armies that have fought against his Majesty under the pretence of fighting for him whilst yet there hath been no body to oppose him but themselves I remember a few verses that were written by some body Anno 1641. they resemble the forme of a Petition directed to his Majesty by the considerate Catholiques of Ireland they are pretty ones and therefore I will here give you them as I had them from a friend MOst gracious Soveraigne grant that we may have Our ancient Land and Faith 't is all we crave Your English and your Scots not so content Claime all that 's Yours by Act of Parliament Their Tyrannie we hate confesse your right 'T is not 'gainst you 't is against them we fight Whilst you were King we were your Subjects scorne To be their Slaves we 're Fellow-Subjects borne Heavens blesse your Majestie encrease your Powers You being your Selfe againe we still are Yours But to returne againe to John Booker for I will not lose him yet I would gladly demand a Reason from him in Art for his menacing of France or Spaine with vengeance for assisting the Irish or why the Pope should come in any danger of hazarding his Triple-Crowne in the Quarrell unlesse the States intend to advance for Italy If they doe they may doe well to transmit the Directory to Rome as the pre-cursor of a new Reformation there but I am afraid Sir Thomas his courage will coole at the conceipt Nor is it pertinent to the handling of this Conjunction for Booker to tell us an old story of the Spanish Armade in 88. or of the Gunpowder Treason 1605. The wickednesse of those Devilish attempts are both thought on and abhorred by every true English Christian Or of what concernment is the Decollation of Mary Queene of Scots Anno 1587. to the Kingdome of Ireland because that when she was beheaded Saturne was in Taurus as now he is Or of Saturne and Mars their being conjoyned in the yeere 1588. a little before the Spanish Armado appeared upon the English Coast Does not John Booker here most wretchedly confound himselfe Instead of going about to prove Saturnes progresse through Taurus ominous to Ireland he contrarily produces examples which prove that Position dangerous to England and Scotland For what ever his meaning be he instances not any one thing hurtfull to Ireland in either of those yeeres And then he robs Sir Christopher Heydon of more then a whole Page concerning the generall Occurrences in the world which happened in 88. without any mention made of that most learned and judicious Knight And so he proceeds to fill up the remainder of his malicious Pamphlet with railing at the Irish telling them how they have ever been most rebellious and treacherous to the English Nation and have most barbarously and inhumanely murthered many thousand soules c. But we know of another Kingdome that hath sometimes been more rebellious and treacherous then they for lesse cause But I never heard of any Soules that ever either of them murthered I speak not this to justifie or maintaine any inhumane action in Ireland or elsewhere

vel P. which you see these planets are not The next thing I shall desire the indifferent Reader to take notice of is his owne Scheme of this Conjunction and in it the Cuspe of the 5. house as he hath made it and you may observe that Saturne and Mars are but 2. degrees 33. min. distant from the same Yet yeverthelesse in the 37. page of his Pamphlet he taketh his judgement from the 4. House which is contrary to Origanus and divers other Authors and to M. Lilly likewise who allow 5. deg. preceding and 5. deg. subsequent for the Cuspe of each House according to which Rule he ought to have given judgement from the 5. House and not from the 4. You remember Jack how M. Lilly spit his venome at me in the 35. page of his Anglicus for 1645. for giving judgement of Iupiters being in the 4. and Mars in the 6. according to the opinion of Rhemetius when they were within lesse then 5. deg. of the Cuspes of the 5. and 7. House Now I wonder much how you dare dissent from your loving friend M. Lilly especially in this particular considering what you said in your last page of your Epistle to the Reader viz. That M. Lilly and you have the same principles in Art and that your judgements in the generall will have answerable successe And that M. Lilly may see it is no mistake in you but meere opinion let him peruse your Prog. for this yeere 1646. and in the Spring-Quarter he shall find you giving judgement upon Mercury's being in the 10. House when in M. Lilly's owne Scheme erected for the same Latitude Meridian and moment of time he wanteth but 2. deg. and 9. min. of the 11. House And now lack doe you think M. Lilly will not shake his head at you for this grosse contradiction would he have thought it possible that his fellow-champion in State-Astrologie Iohn Booker would have contradicted him and joyned in opinion with those two Malignants Naworth and Wharton at Oxford O tempora O mores I cannot pretermit another of his errors in the same Quarter and page of his Prog. where he sayes that Iupiter is free from all impediments save onely his Detriment And yet Iupiter is there both Per●grine and Occidentall of the Sunne I wonder M. Lilly that you will suffer this Ideot in Astrologie to professe himselfe joynt-purchaser with you in your Principles that hath not yet learned the A. B. C. of Astronomy But have your judgements answerable successe I will examine that also If M. Lilly had handled the Scheme of this Conjunction or if you Iack had followed his Principles it is evident by what I have said that the judgement should have been deduced from the 5. house and not from the 4. which according to Haly Part. 8. c. 7. would have afforded thus much for the Irish viz. Si quando Saturnus fuerit in domo quinta fortunatus significat quod homines gaudebunt suis filiis quod senes multo●um dierum praepositi villarum habebunt bonum utilitatem ex parte altertus gentis ex parte filiorum Which is in effect That when Saturne shall be fortunate in the 5. house he signifieth that men shall rejoyce in their Children And that Aged men and Head-Officers or Magistrates of Townes shall reap much good and commoditie by the helpe of another nation and by meanes of their Children And this is the judgement which should have beene given upon that position if you had followed M. Lilly's Principles Here by the way I beseech the indifferent Reader to take notice of Bookers inveterate hatred and malice to the distressed Kingdome of Ireland For as he neither will nor dare speak or write one jot of truth which may seeme any whit fatall to the States so he is fully resolved to smother all things that tend to the good and safety of Ireland For if he had taken his judgement from the 5. House as Master Lilly will acknowledge he ought to have done he must of necessity have delivered us the precedent judgement but that he conceived to be too good for that Kingdome For thought Iohn Booker that Aphorisme sayes they shal take pleasure in their children and intimates much joy and assistance to them as though some Nation were resolved to come in to their help and engage in the War against the States which I must not mention for by that meanes I may disanimate the States-Soldiers which are to be sent thither if they should perceive Ireland to be so powerfull And on the other side I should encourage Ireland to pursue their designe with greater Policy Courage and Resolution No No the thing which I am to endeavour is to tumble out Victory upon Victory to the States and make mention of nothing but utter ruine desolation and confusion to that barbarous Nation And assure such of the Brethren as have contributed towards the ma●agerie of the Godly and blessed Warre against Ireland shall have Land by the Belly And therefore though it be never so repugnant to my Rules He rather take my judgement from the unfortunate position of Saturne in the fourth house and so I shall have matter enough and meet for the purpose For Saturnus in quarta demo ibi malificus significat quodres adificia cadent minuentur plantationes abscindentur aquae c. He there signifieth that Houses and Buildings shall fall come to decay and perish planting or setting shall be diminished waters cut off the people shall be lessened or abated there shall be poverty to them and the people of that Country shall be obsessed or besieged they shall not dare to goe out of their Towne Cities Castles or Countries by reason of the fear they shall have of their enemies and this shall be more certaine if the 4. house shall be a fixed signe and the hurt dammage or losse shall be more strong or durable And this is the scope of Bookers businesse and agrees verbatim with the sense of the House And he further saith this last Aphorisme agrees exactly with the position of the Maglignant Planet Saturne in every respect Which is an apparent falsehood For the Aphorisme takes no place unlesse Saturne were virtually in the Fourth house which he is not according to M. Lillys principles in this figure of his Or if he were yet is it not in force except likewise that Saturne were found infortunate in the fourth house Neither of which he is by his Position in Bookers figure for as I have formerly demonstrated Saturne is the strongest save one of all the Planets in the figure having fifteene testimonies of strength whereby he is very much fortified and powerfull Now the genuine signification of Saturnes being Locally virtually and fortunately placed in the 4. house as he now is in the Figure which I have exactly corrected according to the opinion of Haly Part. 8. c. 7. is this Si quando Saturnus fuerit quarta d●mo