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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A40060	An humblf [sic] remonstrance from His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax and the army under his command concerning the present state of affairs in relation to themselves and the kingdom, with their desires and present resolutions thereupon presented to the commissioners at S. Albanes, Iune 23, to be by them humbly presented to the Parliament / by the appointment of His Excel. Sir Thomas Faifax and the counsell of warre ; signed John Rushworth ...	England and Wales. Army.; Fairfax, Thomas Fairfax, Baron, 1612-1671.	1647 (1647)	Wing F166A; ESTC R37325	10,345	16

AN HUMBLF REMONSTRANCE FROM His Excel Sir THOMAS FAIRFAX AND The Army under his Command concerning the present State of Affaires in relation to themselves and the Kingdome with their desires and present Resolutions thereupon Presented to the Commissioners at St. Albanes Iune 23. to be by them humbly presented to the PARLIAMENT By the appointment of his Excel Sir Thomas Fairfax and the Counsell of Warre Signed John Rushworth Secr. LONDON Printed for George Whittington at the Blew Anchor in Cornehill neere the Royall Exchange 1647. AN HUMBLE REMONSTRANCE FROM His Excel Sir Thomas Fairfax and The Army under His Command concerning the present estate of Affaires in relation to themselves and the Kingdome with their Desires and present Resolutions thereupon 1. OUR Desires as Souldiers in behalfe of our selves and other Souldiers that have faithfully served the Parliament in this Kingdome as also our remaining dissatisfactions in relation thereunto may be clearely collected out of our severall Papers that have formerly beene presented to the Parliament concerning the same to which particulars we have not yet received any further satisfaction 2. In our last Representation it may appeare what our Desires are as Members of the Common wealth in behalfe of our selves and all others for the clearing setling and securing of the Rights Liberties and Peace of the Kingdome for the Justnesse Reasonablenesse Necessity and Common-concernment whereof unto all we dare appeale to the whole Kingdome and to the World yet we have hitherto received no answer thereunto nor can we heare of any consideration taken thereupon to put the things conteined therein into any way of resolution or dispatch 3. Wee have since in pursuance of the first and second head of our desires in the said representation delivered in a charge against divers persons Members of the House of Commons for divers designes and practises to the abuse and Dishonor of the Parliament the unsufferable injury of the Army the infringment of the Rights and Liberties both of Souldiers and Subjects the breach or hazzard of the Peace of this Kingdome and the hinderance of the reliefe of Ireland c. 4. Vpon which though the maine things charged with the mischievous effects and further dangerous consequences of them as also the constant and continued activity of all or most of the persons charged in relation to those things for the most part are sufficiently knowne especially to the Parliament it selfe yet wee finde neither any thing done vpon what is so knowne nor any way resolved on or admitted by the Parliament for the examination or discovery of what may be less knowne But rather as if neither the things charged nor the present sad effects nor future ill consequences thereof were at all considerable the whole businesse seemes to be slightly past ouer or set aside Lastly we did with these deliuer in another paper whereof here is a Coppy annexed contayning divers just and necessary things which wee did desire might be provided for and done for the better proceeding in the Premisses with more safety to our selves and the Kingdome and with more assurance or hopes of a timely and happy issue To which things desired which wee suppose all men reasonable will thinke just and necessary wee have yet received no answer or resolution nor can finde any consideration at all had of them save that a months pay is sent downe to the Army whilst those that have deserted the Army receive at London much more and that some Votes have bin passed for the annulling the Committee pretended for safety about listing of men and drawing of Forces together which Votes wee finde rendered but vaine and delusive by the continued under-hand practises of those whom wee have charged and their accomplices in listing and ingaging men for a new Warre and by a later dayes Votes not admitting that the Forces so listed or ingaged should by publicke Order be dismist or discharged which with other things wee cannot but attribute chiefely to the prevalent influance of the same persons Now whereas wee finde that our first desire in the Paper last mentioned for present suspending the persons Impeached from sitting in the House is judged by some to be against the course Priviledge of Parliament or of ill consequence in the president of it the charge being but generall and no particular proofes as yet produced to render the proceedings Legall we cannot but remind the Parliament First That as the most and maine things charged with the sad effects and consequences of them so the constant and continued activity of all or most of the persons charged in relation thereunto in misinforming deluding abusing or surprising the House and otherwise are sufficiently knowne to the Parliament it selfe so as the House might upon their owne past and present cognizance of the same most justly proceed to suspend them as in many other cases upon farre lesse occasions which never could have produced such sad effects to the Kingdome they have done many other of their members meerely for words spoken of things moved in the House alledged to be but against Order or Custome of the House and this without any tryall proofe or charge but meerely upon the Houses owne cognizance of the things as we could instance in many cases since this Parliament began Secondly Whereas many of the things to which the Charge relates are things spoken moved or done in the House so as yet we have no cleare way opened particularly to charge or mention them or to produce proofes to them without some pretence against us of breach of priviledge and therefore though we thinke no priviledge ought to protect evill men in doing wrong to particulars or mischiefe to the Publique yet we have beene hitherto so tender of Parliament-Priviledges as that we have onely remonstrated the evill of such things done and supposing the House to have beene as we did and doe beleeve and if way were open without breach of Priviledge should not doubt to proove it was some wayes misinformed deluded surprized or otherwise abused in these things by evill members we have frequently in former papers before the Charge put the Parliament upon it who without colour of breach of Priviledge might doe it to find out and discover who they were that had so abused them and to disingage the Honour of Parliament from the evill practises and designes of such Incendiaries Now since the same difficulties or prejudices lye yet in our way as to the particular charging or proofe of such things against members And the Parliament though so often put upon it in our former papers yet through the powerfull interest of the persons guilty hath not taken any cognizance what members or others have so abused them to draw the Parliament to such dishonour and inconveniences we cannot but againe more fully and clearely assert as we have in former papers and shall more particularly if neede be remonstrate that divers things lately done and passed from the Parliament against this Army as