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A50474	Cardinal Mazarin's letters to Lewis XIV, the present King of France, on his love to the Cardinal's niece together with his secret negotiation with Don Lewis D'Haro, chief minister to the King of Spain.; Correspondence. English. Selections	Mazarin, Jules, 1602-1661.; Louis XIV, King of France, 1638-1715.; Méndez de Haro, Luis, 1598-1661.	1691 (1691)	Wing M1540; ESTC R5209	91,866	304

seems to me that Don Lewis and I should merit more from the hands of God and Men if we appear'd each of us only with one Gentleman without any state seeing that all our Pomp contributes nothing to the business in hand As for the rest I remit my self to the Sieur de Chouppes who is returning and you may well come back here to night LETTER XI To the same Of the Secretary Don P. Coloma Of the renunciation of the Infanta Of Don Lewis's lingerings To Monsieur de Lionne August 1st 1659. I Have received your Letter wherein I have been glad to find whatever has past with the Secretary of State Coloma and that I am not mistaken in the thoughts I have had that we may draw great advantages from treating with him seeing that besides the good dispositions which he had for all things which may contribute to a perfect correspondence between the King and the King of Spain and between Don Lewis and I which is not only necessary for the compleating the Peace but moreover to secure the continuance of it and to do a thousand great things for the glory and advantage of the two Crowns he is greatly interress'd to shew us that we may expect more facility in the points which are to be discust by his mediation than by that of Pimentel with whom he has reason to believe I wish to continue to treat in the same manner as I have done at Paris We must then make our advantage of this conjuncture and make the best of the points which are still to be adjusted seeing it's likely the said Coloma will be the instrument to procure us the satisfactions which we may desire You have done well to remind them of certain things which might in some sort overturn or at least bring into question what has been determined and signed at Paris and ratified since at Madrid and you must carefully remember to hold still the same course for the future in all the occasions of this nature which shall happen I wish you had replied to the Sieur Coloma when he spake to you of the Marriage and told you that we were only to regulate our selves on the contract which had been made for that of the Queen that he had reason excepting the Article concerning the renunciation for he seems to have affected to have spoken twice to you of it to see what you would answer and having made none he believes without doubt he has gained his cause and that we pretend nothing herein although the reasons we have to deal otherwise be evident and such as cannot be contested not only because of what has past at Lyons with Monsieur Pimentel who made the overture of Marriage by the order of Don Lewis but this Marriage being the foundation of the Treaty and the motive which we have had to declare that we would reassume the bottom of the Negotiation of Madrid notwithstanding the changes which have hapned since that time by so many progresses which the Arms of the King had made on all sides and that we would even sacrifice some of our conquests yet we cannot be induced to lose so many advantages which we may justly pretend without the conclusion of the Marriage of the King with a Princess who might become Heiress of as great a Monarchy as that of Spain For without this the King would not have yielded so many points and ospecially in a time wherein the posture of Affairs and the strength of his Arms might make him expect fresh and greater advantages in the continuation of the War And you well know that I have convinced you several times that Don Lewis's intention could be no other when he sent Monsieur Pimentel to Lyons than to make the overture of the Marriage without renunciation in the time when there was but one Prince in Spain Seeing that Don Lewis and all the Spaniards believe as it is true that there is not a greater Match in Europe than that of the Infanta so it is to be supposed that they will grant that there is not a more considerable than that of the King Let me entreat you then to take occasion to speak to the said Monsieur Coloma on this matter under pretence of having made reflection on what he has several times told you that the contract of the Queen ought to regulate this for this will better make known to us the intentions they have on this particular and give occasion to Don Lewis to speak to me of it after which I shall be better able to penetrate into other things I am obliged to tell you that it is the temper of Don Lewis not to resolve so soon in Affairs but to spin 'em out as long as possible And therefore we must be careful to press him incessantly and make known to him by means of the Sieur Coloma that it is not for his reputation nor mine to lose time fruitlesly in adjusting things which might be easily ended with equity and a reciprocal satisfaction I shall be to morrow at Noon without fail at the Conference as I have appointed with Don Lewis and knowing not whether you are determin'd to come to night I entreat you to do it if you can without any great inconvenience LETTER XII To Monsieur le Tellier Conference with Don Lewis Pimentel excluded from the Negotiation The Cardinal demands the reason of it which Don Lewis tells him Preamble of the Treaty The King is to send into Spain to ask for the Infanta Whether the King of Spain should conduct the Infanta to the Frontiers On the Advantages which Spain pretended to gain for the Prince of Conde Bold Proposition of the Cardinal Mutual Civility between the French and Spaniards To Monsieur le Tellier From St. John de Luz Aug. 19. 1659. TO begin this Letter I must tell you that the Conference I had on Saturday last with Don Lewis de Haro which has been the econd lasted near four hours and a half Several of those points were examin'd which are remitted to be adjusted here and we agreed in the greatest part of which a Memorandum was made to be kept by us in writing Don Lewis having named to do this with Monsieur de Lionne the Sieur Pedro Coloma Secretary of State whom he brought with him Monsieur Pimentel has much resented it and with reason seeing that after he had the happiness to conclude and sign the Peace at Paris he should be excluded from the Negotiation and another put in his place On which I will make a small digression to their Majesties in that Lainet having vaunted on the mortification given to the Sieur Pimentel would have it believ'd that his sacrifice had no other end than the satisfaction of Monsieur the Prince by reason he was too quick in promising what I had required of him to his prejudice I thought I ought not to refrain saying a word hereupon to Don Lewis but in such a manner as might do no

I replied to him That the Prince of Conty and the Mareschal of Turenne had implor'd the King's Clemency and were returned to their Duty with the greatest Submission without pretending any thing and without any other condition than that of being re-establish'd in the honour of his Favour that as to Hoquincourt and Foucaut the King had done what the exigency of his Service requires and that I well saw that Spain could have wish'd any thing else to the end the first delivering them Peronne Monsieur the Prince might have the liberty of ranging as far as the Gates of Paris and that the other * Besides the Mareschal's Staff he had Fifty Thousand Louis Dor's given him in ready Money holding firm in Brouage and the Isle of Oleron it should be impossible for us to end the Civil War to recover all the places of the Kingdom which she had made us to lose and to reduce Guienne and other Provinces as had been done That as to the rest it was true the French were more prone than the Spaniards to fail in their Duty but that the Kings far from encouraging them by too much Mildness to hold always this ill Conduct had always used them with the greatest Rigour when the welfare of their Service had not oblig'd them to do otherwise that herein they varied not in France from the manner was used in Spain seeing when they could not remedy Rebellions and Insurrections which happened they had Patience as is apparent in relation to the Portuguise and Catalonians who have been always sought to and offer'd not only a Pardon but moreover new Priviledges and great Recompences to those of the Country who had most Credit In fine I hereunto added the Example of the Hollanders who having maintained their Rebellion to the end had at length been acknowledged by the King of Spain for Free and Independent States and their Embassadours treated as those of Soveraigns And I concluded That if more Rebellions and Revoltings were seen in France than in Spain this mishap was somewhat lessned by the facility wherewith the French return'd to their Duty which could not be said of the Subjects of the King of Spain who having once thrown off the Yoke never return'd to their obedience again but by force as appear'd sufficiently by the Example of the Hollanders who are peaceable Possessors of several Provinces which were the Patrimony of the King of Spain not an Age past That all the Revolts which had hapned in France had not yet caus'd the King to lose a Thumb's breadth of Land who on the contrary by the apparent Blessing of God had extended on all hands the limits of his Kingdom maugre the Union of so many Princes and Parliaments who had conspir'd the Ruine of the State So that the proneness of the French in failing in their Duty was corrected by the facility of their Return whereas if the Subjects of Spain do more rarely forget themselves yet when they do it they as seldom return I well perceiv'd this Discourse rack'd Don Lewis and I told him I was troubled he had oblig'd me to it but the Honour of France and that of the King required it In fine shewing some emotion he spake to me again in more earnest terms of the satisfaction of Monsieur the Prince telling me his Master's Honour was therein engaged so that he could not excuse himself from doing something considerable for him without exposing himself to a perpetual blemish and therefore he pray'd me once for all to tell him clearly what he might expect in this point seeing this being adjusted all the rest would be easily accorded in one single Conference It was here that I judg'd it conducing to the good success of this Negotiation for the Service and Dignity of the King and to know the bottom of Don Lewis's Heart to transport my self by Address in raising a little my Voice I told him then Sir you speak with a great deal of liberty and freedom on the subject of Monsieur the Prince which you regard as the principal decision of this whole Affair For my part I must declare to you that having suffer'd more patiently than I ought Four Conferences to be taken up in contesting a thing already adjusted in the Treaty of Peace Signed at Paris and ratified without therein changing a word That the King will do nothing beyond what I have declared to you and that even when his Majesty would permit me to make a longer stay on this Frontier and we should have an Hundred more Conserences you will obtain nothing more of me because his Majesty will never consent that the King of Spain should give the Prince a Recompence which may serve as a Monument to Posterity of his Rebellion and of pernicious Example to Persons of his Rank to engage themselves in the service of Spain against the King and their Country to gain like Recompences He would have interrupted me here but entreating him to let me to go on I continued to say to him That Monsieur the Prince must resolve as I have several times affirm'd to become wholly a Frenchman or wholly a Spaniard That the King would never suffer he should receive from his Catholick-Majesty other gratification than that I already mentioned That it not being reasonable Christendom should longer remain plung'd in the Abyss of Miseries wherein a long War had thrown it for the Interests more or less of a particular Person to whom for the sake of the Peace the King had parted with a thousand times more Favours than he ought and the success of the Affairs of this Kingdom permitted Besides Justice required the King should use towards the Prince the same manner as the King of Spain would use in relation to Portugal otherwise I well saw with a sensible displeasure that the consideration of Monsieur the Prince which had already hindred Three Years before the conclusion of the Peace at Madrid to the prejudice of all Christendom of which they must give an account to God who had been the cause might moreover occasion the rupture of a Peace Concluded Signed and Ratified and that if the Emissaries of Monsieur the Prince and some other Persons were able to perswade Don Lewis that holding out on this point I would yield my self in the end it being impossible for me to resolve to return without the work of the Peace receiving its perfection lest I incur the hatred of the People I therefore declared to him that tho' it were true I should be greatly grieved in not succeeding in an Affair so much desired of all the World yet I should return with this consolation That no body could with the least shew of Reason impute to me the fault of the rupture of the Peace for the conclusion of which I had so happily laboured at Paris That I believed the King might expect from the Divine Goodness in the continuation of the War the same Advantages and it may be greater than those had

to go and cast my self at his Feet to supplicate him and that however I protested to him he could not do me a greater pleasure than not to take me at my word and to end this affair as is mention'd in the Treaty of Paris in converting into Silver the Prince's Gratification as I have already above denoted I forgot to tell you that I had made him before this Proposition That if he would give to the King of Portugal the Kingdom of Sardaignia which he had offered to Monsieur the Prince I would signifie as much to his Majesty and use my utmost endeavours to make him relish this Proposition with which the King of Portugal might be satisfied and I pleasantly enlarged my self hereupon to put him from insisting any more in hopes of succeeding in the behalf of Monsieur the Prince I told him Sir here 's the best Expedient in the World to satisfie this King and to give an opportunity to the King my Master to shew to the World that he obtains for his Ally a handsom Retreat as likewise to end the War on all hands seeing the King of Portugal embracing this Expedient the Catholick King without drawing his Sword may put himself in possession of several Kingdoms the least of which is more considerable than that of Sardaignia But this Proposition served only the more to perplex him without his being able to offer any solid reason to oppose it Neither indeed can there be any for it would be far more advantagious to his Catholick Majesty to recover Portugal without striking a stroke in yielding Sardaignia to this King than to give as a pure gift this Province to Monsieur the Prince And forasmuch as the principal end of the Relation I here make you is to inform the King and if I may express my self so to instruct his Majesty in whatever there is most important for his Service and most conducing to the interests of his Crown so I will not omit as far as my little leisure will give me leave to make known to the King all the accidents which happen in several occasions in our Conferences And therefore I will tell you that Don Lewis having taken again this last time occasion to exagerate the extraordinary advantages received from this Peace by the means of which his Majesty assured his Conquests and extended their limits on all sides I told him that the King would willingly renounce all this if his Catholick Majesty would only deliver him Navarre in exchange which all the World knows belongs to him by so good a Title that there 's not a Frenchman who from the first use of his Reason is not perswaded the King has no less right to this Kingdom than to the City of Paris He ask'd me if I knew what Navarre was seeing 't was no greater than Rousillon Accept then the Proposal I made you said I to him assureing you that if you take me at my word the King will make it good but I suppose you will do nothing herein but had rather keep this little Country wherein there is not above Two or Three Places for you well know that the King my Master had once Pampelune his Catholick Majesty would be forced to dislodge from Madrid He told me in another Rencounter that the effects of War are uncertain that the Affairs of the Allies of France proceeded not so well in Germany as we could wish that they were near seeing in England such changes as would give Spain as many advantages as France had during the time of Cromwell that there was nothing to be expected from the Commotions in Naples and supposing the Peace was not made there might a great many things happen in Portugal which would give the King his Master an opportunity to draw this Thorn out of his Foot and to employ elsewhere the Forces he had hitherto been constrain'd to use on that side I answer'd him in two Words Do you know why It is because all is asleep and that you do not see several things break forth on all sides which will give you just reason to apprehend the progress of France for the future more than you have done hitherto it is because the King expecting whether the Peace will be made has ordered me to supersede all Negotiations which may make him enter into new engagements with Swedeland England and Portugal although we be continually sollicited from all sides with such offers as would affect any other Prince who can be less sensible than him of the Miseries which so long a War has brought on Christendom And I concluded That perhaps we had shut our Ears to more plausible Propositions and which might better succeed in the Kingdom of Naples than all those which had been made to us heretofore and that I prayed to God with all my Heart that the execution of the Peace might oblige me to lye still otherwise I could easily shew France to be in a more likely condition than ever to make her self seared We pass'd afterwards to entertaining our selves very friendly on the conveniencies which the two Crowns would find from the Peace and I told him that I could not comprehend how those who had heretofore held our Places and our selves too had not always laboured with all our powers to unite our Masters seeing this Union rais'd equally the power of both without giving them the least jealousie that I could assure him the greatest part of the Princes of Europe would not have a Peace and that those whose Interest it was to see it concluded seared nothing more than to behold a strict friendship made between the two Kings because both one and the other grounded their advantage in the continuation of the War or at least in the fomentation of Jealousies and Mistrusts between the two Crowns that the Conduct and Intentions of these Princes seemed to me to learn us what we should do and that it was strange we being able to give Laws to all of 'em we should put our selves into a condition to receive it from them and that in stead of obliging them to make their court to our Masters by jealousies one of another they should court 'em themselves to the great prejudice of their dignity But after all said I to him again what reason can the two Kings have to make War so obstinately against one another and with so great damage to their States and Subjects seeing it is certain that neither the Revolutions which can happen thence nor the progress which the Arms of the one can make over the other in diverse times will ever be capable of ruining so well one that the two Powers become entirely one single Body He testified he liked very well my discourse and having repeated it he told me there was no replying to what I said but I will tell you in your Ear to the end only their Majesties may know it that it troubles me to see him so indifferent for the executing of any great Enterprise

believe that when I should be so dishonest or to speak better sufficiently infamous to allow it that she can drive on a trade so long which will ruine her Reputation Perhaps she thinks she can do this without any bodies murmuring at it after she has gain'd every bodies good will but she is much mistaken for her Carriage has so moved all against her that know her that I should be much perplexed to name one only person who has any esteem or good will for her excepting Hortensia * Late Dutchess Mazarine who is a Child she has won by force of Flatteries and giving her Money and other things having found as I believe some Treasure seeing she refused to take Money which I had ordered Madam de Venelle to pay her in what quantity she pleas'd when she went to Rochelle The greatest good fortune which can happen to this Person is my not deferring any longer to regulate Matters and if I cannot make her wise as I believe it 's impossible at least that her follies appear not any more in the view of the World for otherwise she will run a risk of being torn in pieces You hear all this with astonishment because the affection you have for her will not suffer you to see clearly in what relates to her but as for my part who am not prejudiced and who at what price soever will serve you in this accident which is the most important of your whole life tho' it should cost me mine I see the truth as it is and I will not suffer you to be ruin'd for otherwise I should be guilty of a kind of Treason Let the event be what it will I matter not to dye provided it be doing my duty and serving you as I am oblig'd especially in this occasion wherein no body can do it better I had forgot to tell you that to discover to you the better the affection this person has for me that she has never writ to me but two words forced to do it by Madam de Venelle and after the sight of you at St. John d'Angely another Letter which I know to be an effect of what you told her being well assured that according to the favour you bear me you omit nothing to oblige her to render me all kinds of respects and marks of affection But whatever power you have over her Mind you will never succeed in this point and I now declare to you it will be in vain And moreover how can you pretend she has any deference and affection to me whose thoughts are quite contrary to hers which is to say she is for being a Libertine and an Extravagant and I on the contrary would have her to be Wise and Reserv'd I do not doubt but she knows all that I have the Honour to write to you but so far am I from being apprehensive of it that there 's nothing I more passionately wish for and would to God she were capable of answering you pertinently on the matter which you take care to impart to her for I earnestly wish to be free from that trouble But I confess to you that at the Age I am and among all the Employments with which I am o'rewhelm'd and in which I seem so fortunate to serve you with Reputation and Advantage to your State I cannot bear the being tormented by a Person who should by all Laws sacrifice her self to comfort me and that which afflicts me to the utmost is that in stead of sparing me this trouble you contribute thereunto in giving to this Wretch by the passion you shew her the courage and resolution to live as she does I was wholly at ease by what you took the pains to write me and by the Conduct you began to hold since my dispatch from Cadillac and I had believ'd that you only thought of preparing the ways to be happy in your Marriage which could not be but in mastering of your Passion which had made it self Master of your Mind But I have seen with a sensible displeasure that after this fatal Visit which I would have hindered at the price of my Blood all is fall'n into a worse condition than it was before and you must not explain to me the thing otherwise for I cannot doubt of it and I may say I know all as well as you Pray consider after this in what condition I am and whether there be in the World a Man more wretched than my self who after applying himself continually with the greatest zeal to raise your Reputation and to procure by all ways the glory of your Arms the ease of your Subjects and the good of your State has the displeasure to see a Person who belongs to me on the very point of overturning all and causing your Ruine if you go on to give way to your passion for her When I call to mind what you were pleas'd to write me That if you could explain your self by word of Mouth I should have an entire satisfaction touching the disposition of your Mind being resolv'd to do without reserve whatever I should see necessary for your Glory and the good of the Kingdom it makes me desperate to see this Commerce last which hinders me from waiting on you and endeavouring according to your orders to calm your Spirit and put you in a condition of being the happiest and compleatest Monarch in the World but I know not how to approach you having reason to believe that neither of us shall say any thing to content one another For can I without violating the Fidelity I owe you and without betraying my Obligations abstain from shewing you that you take a course quite contrary to what is decent and to the Happiness you should aspire after seeing that at the very point of marrying your self you abandon your self more than ever to your Passion for whatever power you have over your self and whatever progress you may have made through her counsel whom you love in the art of dissembling you cannot conceal your aversion to this Marriage although it be the most profitable and glorious you can make How can I forbear telling you that you prejudice the good of your Kingdom that you draw on you the Reproaches of all the World and render your self liable to the wrath of God if you marry with a Princess whom you do not love and in the intention of living ill with her as the other Person threatens Do you believe that God can bless such devices and that if you deal thus you can avoid the feeling as many effects of his Indignation as he has shew'd you hitherto of his Bounty I should deceive you should I not condemn the Conduct you hold and the care you take to make your self miserable seeing that instead of softly breaking off as you have begun to do a Commerce which is the greatest obstacle to the satisfaction which you will receive from the Marriage which I treat on you have renewed it with more heat